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Marvel 1602
Marvel 1602: New World
Collects Marvel 1602: New World #1-5. Return to the world of 1602! Picking up where the best-selling story by Neil Gaiman left America, the New World! When Captain America was thrust back in time, it changed reality as we know it. Dinosaurs still roam the earth, and the Marvel super heroes we know came to exist 500 years early. Witness David Bruce Banner and Peter Parquagh become the Hulk and Spider-Man of 1602!
120 pages, Kindle Edition
First published June 22, 2006
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Greg Pak
1,646 books579 followersGreg Pak is an award-winning Korean American comic book writer and filmmaker currently writing "Lawful" for BOOM and "Sam Wilson: Captain America" (with Evan Narcisse) for Marvel. Pak wrote the "Princess Who Saved Herself" children's book and the “Code Monkey Save World” graphic novel based on the songs of Jonathan Coulton and co-wrote (with Fred Van Lente) the acclaimed “Make Comics Like the Pros” how-to book. Pak's other work includes "Planet Hulk," "Darth Vader," "Mech Cadet Yu," "Ronin Island," "Action Comics," and "Magneto Testament."
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May 24, 2018
3.5 stars
This one had its good and bad.I liked that it started off right after the end of Gaiman's 1602 so it was a direct sequel. I also liked some of the character development with the newer characters (Jameson, Osborn, etc.) It looks like time is still messed up however, as there are dinosaurs running around the New World in 1602. The thing is, Gaiman's 1602 didn't really seem like something that needed a sequel. We were told the 1602 Universe survived, but really once Gaiman's story was told everything just goes back to a what if type story. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but when the original story is the measuring stick it's going to take a lot to measure up to that.
This one had its good and bad.I liked that it started off right after the end of Gaiman's 1602 so it was a direct sequel. I also liked some of the character development with the newer characters (Jameson, Osborn, etc.) It looks like time is still messed up however, as there are dinosaurs running around the New World in 1602. The thing is, Gaiman's 1602 didn't really seem like something that needed a sequel. We were told the 1602 Universe survived, but really once Gaiman's story was told everything just goes back to a what if type story. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but when the original story is the measuring stick it's going to take a lot to measure up to that.
December 24, 2024
A decent read, though I found myself torn between 2 and 3 stars. The story didn’t offer much beyond the usual superhero tropes set against a historical backdrop. While it had its moments, there wasn’t anything groundbreaking or particularly shocking in terms of plot payoff.
The artwork was a mixed bag. While the coloring was vibrant and appealing at times, the proportions were distracting—head-to-body ratios and general anatomy often felt so off that it was hard to ignore. I found myself looking past it to focus on the story instead.
That said, the narrative had its highlights. The Hulk and Spider-Man (along with Virginia) scenes were the most memorable for me, but I was hoping for more of a direct continuation from the previous 1602 installment. Unfortunately, we don’t get any follow-up on the X-Men or Neil Gaiman’s ending. The story only touches on Steve Rogers, leaving much of the previous plot threads unexplored.
Overall, while the story had its moments and was enjoyable in parts, it leaned toward being a forgettable and mediocre read. It was ok. I was left wanting more depth and connection to the larger 1602 narrative.
The artwork was a mixed bag. While the coloring was vibrant and appealing at times, the proportions were distracting—head-to-body ratios and general anatomy often felt so off that it was hard to ignore. I found myself looking past it to focus on the story instead.
That said, the narrative had its highlights. The Hulk and Spider-Man (along with Virginia) scenes were the most memorable for me, but I was hoping for more of a direct continuation from the previous 1602 installment. Unfortunately, we don’t get any follow-up on the X-Men or Neil Gaiman’s ending. The story only touches on Steve Rogers, leaving much of the previous plot threads unexplored.
Overall, while the story had its moments and was enjoyable in parts, it leaned toward being a forgettable and mediocre read. It was ok. I was left wanting more depth and connection to the larger 1602 narrative.
June 16, 2018
Is this every bit the classic story that the original is held up to be? No, but it's a lot of fun.
It takes the story of 1602 and continues in the New World where the wealthy Norman Osborne wants the local native Americans gone and the King's Man David Banner is hiding from the King as well as the beast within.
This book takes the 1602 concept and runs with it. We get to see Peter Parquagh emerge as the Spider, the Hulk fight dinosaurs in Roanoke, and a 17th Century Iron Man who stands on a mast and is hit by lightning to power his suit. If this sounds like the type of story you'd like to read, this book will be fun and you don't even have to have read the original, although that does help.
It takes the story of 1602 and continues in the New World where the wealthy Norman Osborne wants the local native Americans gone and the King's Man David Banner is hiding from the King as well as the beast within.
This book takes the 1602 concept and runs with it. We get to see Peter Parquagh emerge as the Spider, the Hulk fight dinosaurs in Roanoke, and a 17th Century Iron Man who stands on a mast and is hit by lightning to power his suit. If this sounds like the type of story you'd like to read, this book will be fun and you don't even have to have read the original, although that does help.
March 30, 2022
(3,7 of 5 for Roanoke of witchbreed and injuns)
This one is also fun, bit alternative Marvel history to the Roanoke and colonisation of America. It closely follows events in Gaiman's 1602 and prequels 1602 Spider-Man. There are few storylines, some less necessary than others. There is not much other to say, except the cover art from Topi - it's pretty awesome (and nice relief after that Marvel's factory art & colours). And I don't think that mixing the aspect of J.J. Johnson here was wanted comic relief...
This one is also fun, bit alternative Marvel history to the Roanoke and colonisation of America. It closely follows events in Gaiman's 1602 and prequels 1602 Spider-Man. There are few storylines, some less necessary than others. There is not much other to say, except the cover art from Topi - it's pretty awesome (and nice relief after that Marvel's factory art & colours). And I don't think that mixing the aspect of J.J. Johnson here was wanted comic relief...
September 12, 2025
1602: New World
Issue #1:
3 people tied to wood posts about to burn beg King James for mercy. He is preparing a statement with David. He applauds David for being so witty and even though not his prettiest servant, he serves well and fulfills commands. One of the men burning is David Banner who suddenly transforms into hulk. He seemingly kills the king. He ends up in the middle of a forest wet and naked. He tells himself the hulk did this, not him, and he’s not a witchbreed and back home. But he’s not. He was sent to kill Fury. He realizes he’s in the new world. He failed the king not killing Fury. He says he will kill fury, the others, witchbreed and fantastic four. He is still distraught and sees a trapped dinosaur. He helps free it but many begin attacking him. He tries to run but can’t and turns into the hulk and attacks them. In Roanoke, Virginia tells Peter to lie down as he’s sick from the spider bite. However, he has to print broadsheets for master Jameson. Peter has good enough strength to run the press since the bite. Virginia sees that Peter wrote about everything that happens but assures her he did not write about her turning into a dog. Jameson begins selling the broadsheets when suddenly the dinosaurs arrive. Peter quickly saves Virginia and realizes he has powers now. He then saves Jameson. Everyone tells him to retreat but he thinks he can help save everyone. He’s fighting but overpowered. Suddenly the Hulk arrives to help.
Issue #2:
On the island of Roanoke, Norman Osborne is asking the natives to sign a contract for land. Rojhaz told them not to trust him and he meant bad news. They threaten to kill him but hear dinosaurs. Peter arrives on a dinosaur with children on his back. Virginia has transformed into a T-Rex and his fighting Hulk. Peter recognizes the robes. Peter saves Jameson from getting smashed by debris. Jameson yells at him not realizing he saved him while the dinosaur comes back. Peter tells Governor Dare to run. Peter gets the t-Rex away and Hulk calms down. Peter chases after Virginia. He tries to calm her down back to human form. Dougan confronts hulk and wants him dead. He grabs dougan by the throat. Peter tells him not to do it because he’s a killer. He recognizes Peter and puts him down, transforming back into David. Dougan goes to kill him but Dare tells him not to as they don’t kill unarmed men in the new world. Back at home, Peter consoles Virginia who is recovering well. However she can no longer trust herself as she turned into something dangerous and then wanted to attack just like they did. Osborne tells everyone they must not allow superpowers in their town. He says the Indians camp out to kill them. Peter secretly finds Dare to tell him he doesn’t believe Osborne means well and he’s lying. Dare doesn’t believe Peter and tells him even though he has a bad feeling it doesn’t mean anything. In London, King James wonders where Banner has gone after he sent him to kill Fury as he has still not returned. He should’ve been back a week ago. He was sent a hulkbuster style machine by King Phillip and he sends it on the lookout.
Issue #3:
The hulkbuster is on board a ship sailing to the new world. It is revealed the man in the suit is lord iron. His suit needs to be charged or he will soon die as it helps keep him alive. He says his heart will not last the hour. He climbs the pole to charge by being zapped by lightning. In Roanoke, Dare asks the children how they felt playing with the Indians. They were not afraid of them at all. Osborne believes the Indians are the true problem while Dare believes it’s those with powers. They create a new law that establishes Indians and witchbreed cannot be in Roanoke and must be gone in 2 days. They want banner brought in for what he’s done, and every witchbreed informed. Jameson tells Peter to follow them on the hunt. He is scoping them in the trees when he sees a woman doing the same. He tells her to go as she can’t be seen but she says the same is true for him and knows he has spider powers. She warns that when they find out it won’t be forgiven. The people hunt down Banner who is seemingly going to jump off a cliff. However, Peter quickly dragged him down so he could not be seen. Banner tells him that he’s evil and they both are. They are both evil for betraying Fury. Banner wants to be dead and tried to convince Peter as well. Suddenly, Osborne strikes Dougan and screams running the Indians have attacked. They go to search the Indian huts and burn them. Peter takes off running from Banner. No Indians were found in the village which comes as a big surprise. A dog keeps barking, Osborne shoots its striking fear into many. Banner has decided to go with the Indians. She warns Peter to come as a war is coming and that he should be on their side. However, he leaves for Virginia. She is scared the new world is the same as the old. Peter asks her to help fight and transform but she doesn’t trust herself. Jameson yells at Peter to come out as a ship arrives. He believes something is happening. Suddenly the hulkbuster arrives. He starts launching missiles. He grabs hold of Peter and asks where banner is.
Issue #4:
As hulkbuster holds Peter in the air he tells him not to lie and to show him Banner. Suddenly, Dare points a gun at him urging him to let him down. Osborne fires, knocking Jameson down. Osborne calls for them to fire. Hulkbuster electrocutes Peter while getting shot at. He brings out a lightning sword and begins fighting back and Osborne and his men retreat. Dare tells Peter to use his talents. He tells him not to play dumb and he knows. Captain Ross of the kings navy and his men arrive. They all go talk. He is not pleased Dare made a new constitution. They said it was because of Fury but the policies continued after. They are all considered traitors and Dare says he shall pay the price. Virginia is questioned about Peter and says she doesn’t know of him. She tells the hulkbuster Banner will crush him like a grape. Suddenly it is announced Dare will be beheaded at dawn. Virginia is about to transform into a wolf but Peter stops her and says he will save her father. Virginia tells hulkbuster she will take him to Banner to spare the life of her father. He agrees. Ross says he doesn’t have the authority but Hulkbuster says he said so anyway and to honor it. Ross and Osborne converse. He wants to find the Indians to get the grail. The one that transformed banner. They agree they must find it. Ross says destroy it. Osborne hesitates then agrees. Ross tells the soldiers to get rest as after the execution of dare they will be after the Indians. They find Dougan. He announces Osborne was the one who attacked him. Suddenly spiderman takes out the soldiers. He saves Dougan and his crew and says he’s ready for war. Virginia has lured hulkbuster to the woods and says she lied about knowing where banner was and she was just going to kill him. Hulkbuster laughs and says he will be in allegiance with her and the English. Banner is having a very bad dream. It’s revealed he was captured and tortured during war and this is why he became like this. He wakes up and talks to Chief Marioac of the Roanoke. He thinks he should be killed but she smacks him and says he’s the monster but in a good way. They sail and prepare for war.
Issue #5:
The Indians arrive in the new world. Jameson asks Dare how he is so calm when they want him dead. He says what they want and what they will do are 2 different things. Dare gets back with Dougan and they embrace. Jameson chases after him. The fighting begins and spiderman is taking down soldiers. The chief behind a large army tells the English to stand down. Captain Ross says no. The fight begins and they attack Hulk who is taking the bullets easily. He makes a large clap sending them barreling back. Hulk tells them to stop and talk. The chief tells Ross to escort to his ship and never return which Dare calls reasonable. However, the chief now says Dare’s people will board and leave as well. She says Rojhaz thought these failures could be avoided but they couldn’t and now they must leave. Suddenly Hulkbuster attacks Hulk. They fight intensely. Hulk tries to stop him and say they are making a better world. Iron doesn’t listen and continues to attack knocking Hulk down. Osborne tells Ross to attack now. Spiderman yells for Virginia. He tells her that she’s the only one who can stop this. Saying she will be able to control it. Osborne suddenly grabs Peter. He says he will kill him if not given the source. Chief says that the source was destroyed with Rojhaz. He is distraught and taken down by Iron. Virginia stops the fight by turning into a massive lion dragon. Iron apologizes to Banner. Hulk turns back to Banner and Iron goes to attack him and stops and says they can start over. Banner decides to sail back and give himself up to the king. With everyone now back it’s an interesting dynamic. Osborne is sentenced to 24 hours in the stocks for his crimes. Jameson gets the press running and tells Peter to work on finding out more about the spiderman. He agrees. 4 months later, Banner is at the stake and asked to beg for mercy. He says he will leave that to King James.
Although not the original, a good sequel.
8.5/10
Issue #1:
3 people tied to wood posts about to burn beg King James for mercy. He is preparing a statement with David. He applauds David for being so witty and even though not his prettiest servant, he serves well and fulfills commands. One of the men burning is David Banner who suddenly transforms into hulk. He seemingly kills the king. He ends up in the middle of a forest wet and naked. He tells himself the hulk did this, not him, and he’s not a witchbreed and back home. But he’s not. He was sent to kill Fury. He realizes he’s in the new world. He failed the king not killing Fury. He says he will kill fury, the others, witchbreed and fantastic four. He is still distraught and sees a trapped dinosaur. He helps free it but many begin attacking him. He tries to run but can’t and turns into the hulk and attacks them. In Roanoke, Virginia tells Peter to lie down as he’s sick from the spider bite. However, he has to print broadsheets for master Jameson. Peter has good enough strength to run the press since the bite. Virginia sees that Peter wrote about everything that happens but assures her he did not write about her turning into a dog. Jameson begins selling the broadsheets when suddenly the dinosaurs arrive. Peter quickly saves Virginia and realizes he has powers now. He then saves Jameson. Everyone tells him to retreat but he thinks he can help save everyone. He’s fighting but overpowered. Suddenly the Hulk arrives to help.
Issue #2:
On the island of Roanoke, Norman Osborne is asking the natives to sign a contract for land. Rojhaz told them not to trust him and he meant bad news. They threaten to kill him but hear dinosaurs. Peter arrives on a dinosaur with children on his back. Virginia has transformed into a T-Rex and his fighting Hulk. Peter recognizes the robes. Peter saves Jameson from getting smashed by debris. Jameson yells at him not realizing he saved him while the dinosaur comes back. Peter tells Governor Dare to run. Peter gets the t-Rex away and Hulk calms down. Peter chases after Virginia. He tries to calm her down back to human form. Dougan confronts hulk and wants him dead. He grabs dougan by the throat. Peter tells him not to do it because he’s a killer. He recognizes Peter and puts him down, transforming back into David. Dougan goes to kill him but Dare tells him not to as they don’t kill unarmed men in the new world. Back at home, Peter consoles Virginia who is recovering well. However she can no longer trust herself as she turned into something dangerous and then wanted to attack just like they did. Osborne tells everyone they must not allow superpowers in their town. He says the Indians camp out to kill them. Peter secretly finds Dare to tell him he doesn’t believe Osborne means well and he’s lying. Dare doesn’t believe Peter and tells him even though he has a bad feeling it doesn’t mean anything. In London, King James wonders where Banner has gone after he sent him to kill Fury as he has still not returned. He should’ve been back a week ago. He was sent a hulkbuster style machine by King Phillip and he sends it on the lookout.
Issue #3:
The hulkbuster is on board a ship sailing to the new world. It is revealed the man in the suit is lord iron. His suit needs to be charged or he will soon die as it helps keep him alive. He says his heart will not last the hour. He climbs the pole to charge by being zapped by lightning. In Roanoke, Dare asks the children how they felt playing with the Indians. They were not afraid of them at all. Osborne believes the Indians are the true problem while Dare believes it’s those with powers. They create a new law that establishes Indians and witchbreed cannot be in Roanoke and must be gone in 2 days. They want banner brought in for what he’s done, and every witchbreed informed. Jameson tells Peter to follow them on the hunt. He is scoping them in the trees when he sees a woman doing the same. He tells her to go as she can’t be seen but she says the same is true for him and knows he has spider powers. She warns that when they find out it won’t be forgiven. The people hunt down Banner who is seemingly going to jump off a cliff. However, Peter quickly dragged him down so he could not be seen. Banner tells him that he’s evil and they both are. They are both evil for betraying Fury. Banner wants to be dead and tried to convince Peter as well. Suddenly, Osborne strikes Dougan and screams running the Indians have attacked. They go to search the Indian huts and burn them. Peter takes off running from Banner. No Indians were found in the village which comes as a big surprise. A dog keeps barking, Osborne shoots its striking fear into many. Banner has decided to go with the Indians. She warns Peter to come as a war is coming and that he should be on their side. However, he leaves for Virginia. She is scared the new world is the same as the old. Peter asks her to help fight and transform but she doesn’t trust herself. Jameson yells at Peter to come out as a ship arrives. He believes something is happening. Suddenly the hulkbuster arrives. He starts launching missiles. He grabs hold of Peter and asks where banner is.
Issue #4:
As hulkbuster holds Peter in the air he tells him not to lie and to show him Banner. Suddenly, Dare points a gun at him urging him to let him down. Osborne fires, knocking Jameson down. Osborne calls for them to fire. Hulkbuster electrocutes Peter while getting shot at. He brings out a lightning sword and begins fighting back and Osborne and his men retreat. Dare tells Peter to use his talents. He tells him not to play dumb and he knows. Captain Ross of the kings navy and his men arrive. They all go talk. He is not pleased Dare made a new constitution. They said it was because of Fury but the policies continued after. They are all considered traitors and Dare says he shall pay the price. Virginia is questioned about Peter and says she doesn’t know of him. She tells the hulkbuster Banner will crush him like a grape. Suddenly it is announced Dare will be beheaded at dawn. Virginia is about to transform into a wolf but Peter stops her and says he will save her father. Virginia tells hulkbuster she will take him to Banner to spare the life of her father. He agrees. Ross says he doesn’t have the authority but Hulkbuster says he said so anyway and to honor it. Ross and Osborne converse. He wants to find the Indians to get the grail. The one that transformed banner. They agree they must find it. Ross says destroy it. Osborne hesitates then agrees. Ross tells the soldiers to get rest as after the execution of dare they will be after the Indians. They find Dougan. He announces Osborne was the one who attacked him. Suddenly spiderman takes out the soldiers. He saves Dougan and his crew and says he’s ready for war. Virginia has lured hulkbuster to the woods and says she lied about knowing where banner was and she was just going to kill him. Hulkbuster laughs and says he will be in allegiance with her and the English. Banner is having a very bad dream. It’s revealed he was captured and tortured during war and this is why he became like this. He wakes up and talks to Chief Marioac of the Roanoke. He thinks he should be killed but she smacks him and says he’s the monster but in a good way. They sail and prepare for war.
Issue #5:
The Indians arrive in the new world. Jameson asks Dare how he is so calm when they want him dead. He says what they want and what they will do are 2 different things. Dare gets back with Dougan and they embrace. Jameson chases after him. The fighting begins and spiderman is taking down soldiers. The chief behind a large army tells the English to stand down. Captain Ross says no. The fight begins and they attack Hulk who is taking the bullets easily. He makes a large clap sending them barreling back. Hulk tells them to stop and talk. The chief tells Ross to escort to his ship and never return which Dare calls reasonable. However, the chief now says Dare’s people will board and leave as well. She says Rojhaz thought these failures could be avoided but they couldn’t and now they must leave. Suddenly Hulkbuster attacks Hulk. They fight intensely. Hulk tries to stop him and say they are making a better world. Iron doesn’t listen and continues to attack knocking Hulk down. Osborne tells Ross to attack now. Spiderman yells for Virginia. He tells her that she’s the only one who can stop this. Saying she will be able to control it. Osborne suddenly grabs Peter. He says he will kill him if not given the source. Chief says that the source was destroyed with Rojhaz. He is distraught and taken down by Iron. Virginia stops the fight by turning into a massive lion dragon. Iron apologizes to Banner. Hulk turns back to Banner and Iron goes to attack him and stops and says they can start over. Banner decides to sail back and give himself up to the king. With everyone now back it’s an interesting dynamic. Osborne is sentenced to 24 hours in the stocks for his crimes. Jameson gets the press running and tells Peter to work on finding out more about the spiderman. He agrees. 4 months later, Banner is at the stake and asked to beg for mercy. He says he will leave that to King James.
Although not the original, a good sequel.
8.5/10
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
March 7, 2013
VIEL schlechter als Gaiman's Meisterwerk!
Nachdem ich den Originaltitel Marvel 1602 von Neil Gaiman und Andy Kubert verschlungen habe, dachte ich, dass hier die Geschichte ansatzlos weiter geht. Weit gefehlt!
Leider lassen sowohl der Plot als auch die Zeichnungen in einem enormen Maße nach. Letztlich beschränkt sich der Autor darauf, die Handlungsstränge von Gaiman ein bisschen weiterzuspinnen, und ein, zwei weitere Superhelden (Iron Man, Spider-Man) mit aufzunehmen. Es fehlt völlig an dem Esprit und der Kreatitvität, die den ersten Teil so herausragend machten.
Dazu kommt, dass die Zeichnungen nicht ansatzweise dem Vorgänger das Wasser reichen können. Irgendwie sollte Tocchini mal in einen Lehrgang für Körperproportionen und Perspektiven, in vielen Panels dreht man das Comic hin und her und versucht herauszufinden, warum Spider-Man plötzlich einen so großen Kopf und so kurze Beine hat. Bäh.
Ich bin trotzdem gespannt auf Marvel 1602: Fantastick Four, da die Idee trotz der Ausführung hier faszinierend ist.
Nachdem ich den Originaltitel Marvel 1602 von Neil Gaiman und Andy Kubert verschlungen habe, dachte ich, dass hier die Geschichte ansatzlos weiter geht. Weit gefehlt!
Leider lassen sowohl der Plot als auch die Zeichnungen in einem enormen Maße nach. Letztlich beschränkt sich der Autor darauf, die Handlungsstränge von Gaiman ein bisschen weiterzuspinnen, und ein, zwei weitere Superhelden (Iron Man, Spider-Man) mit aufzunehmen. Es fehlt völlig an dem Esprit und der Kreatitvität, die den ersten Teil so herausragend machten.
Dazu kommt, dass die Zeichnungen nicht ansatzweise dem Vorgänger das Wasser reichen können. Irgendwie sollte Tocchini mal in einen Lehrgang für Körperproportionen und Perspektiven, in vielen Panels dreht man das Comic hin und her und versucht herauszufinden, warum Spider-Man plötzlich einen so großen Kopf und so kurze Beine hat. Bäh.
Ich bin trotzdem gespannt auf Marvel 1602: Fantastick Four, da die Idee trotz der Ausführung hier faszinierend ist.
July 3, 2017
Better than the Fantastick Four tie-in book, but not by much. I will say, though, that it's the only one of the 1602 books to deal in any way with colonialism and the settlement of occupied lands in the "New World." I think it could have led to much more interesting stories if the settlers had been forced to leave the continent, but as it is it's still better than the other books, which ignore the issue entirely. Overall not bad, but nothing to really write home about.
October 22, 2022
Though THE NEW WORLD does resolve some of the more unsatisfying aspects of 1602's ending, it fails to deliver a follow up series that is at all worthy of the original.
Please Note: While I will not be getting into spoilers for NEW WORLD, I will have to mention a couple of details about the original 1602 series and where some of the characters end up that would be considered spoilers.
CHARACTERS/STORY
The main draw of this comic series will be for fans of MARVEL 1602 that were frustrated by how Peter and Bruce become Spider-Man and Hulk right at the very end. Following up on this frustratingly rushed pseudo-cliffhanger is really the only things that NEW WORLD has going for it narratively. I liked that the main focus was given to David and Peter and I also enjoyed the way that Peter and Virginia's friendship/romance (fromance?) developed. Placing more emphasis on Governor Dare as well as the inclusion of Norman Osborn were also good choices, but the new 1602 variant of one of the main Avengers (who I won't spoil) didn't do much for me and Dum Dum Dugan is still just kind of there. The Dinosaurs are more of a distraction than an vital component to the conflict and while the conflict between the colonists and the Indians (Native Americans) did factor into the story's climax, any social commentary that was meant to be made was drowned out by everything else going on. Vague musings on religion also didn't do anything more for me than they did in the original series, but their inclusion did at least help this feel somewhat connected with the previous adventure. My biggest issues with the story come from the fact that nothing of note really happens during the span of the 5 issues aside from Peter and David realizing the character arcs that should have been included in Gaiman's series. The exclusion of all of the 1602 X-Men and Fantastic 4 characters felt like a glaring omission with no mention provided for where they all wandered off to. The cumulative effect is a much less grand tale than 1602 fans might have been expecting. This could have been salvaged somewhat by some quality artwork, but that aspect is unfortunately mishandled as well...
THE ART
One of my biggest pet peeves with comics is when the artist changes midway through, especially since this change seems like it is almost never for the better. The art in the first two issues of NEW WORLD is definitely not as distinct as the original series, it is perfectly serviceable and didn't really bother me. From Issue #3 onward though, the style shifts dramatically to one that I did not find at all pleasing. I'm not sure what the reasoning for this change is, but it's not a great look when a five-issue run can't even keep the art consistent. While the visuals for first two issues were not as impressive as the series Gaiman penned, the final three make this series feel even more like one of those low budget Disney sequels from the 90s and early 2000s. I was also horrified that Virginia's cleavage is so prominently put on display by this second artist considering that I think she is supposed to be in her early to mid teens.
CONCLUSION
In the end, this series only holds any kind of value for those who read the original MARVEL 1602 and wanted to know what happens next for Peter and Bruce. It's not particularly worthwhile follow up to Gaiman's story in any other respect.
(+) Focus on Spider-Man and Hulk
(+) Virginia's character and powers are further explored
(-) New 1602 version of a classic avenger character felt lacking
(-) Dinosaurs have no purpose
(-) Only includes a fraction of the original 1602 cast
(-) Artist swap halfway through
(-) Cheaper-looking art styles overall
(-) Overall impression that this is a low-budget follow up rather than a meaningful sequel series
Please Note: While I will not be getting into spoilers for NEW WORLD, I will have to mention a couple of details about the original 1602 series and where some of the characters end up that would be considered spoilers.
CHARACTERS/STORY
The main draw of this comic series will be for fans of MARVEL 1602 that were frustrated by how Peter and Bruce become Spider-Man and Hulk right at the very end. Following up on this frustratingly rushed pseudo-cliffhanger is really the only things that NEW WORLD has going for it narratively. I liked that the main focus was given to David and Peter and I also enjoyed the way that Peter and Virginia's friendship/romance (fromance?) developed. Placing more emphasis on Governor Dare as well as the inclusion of Norman Osborn were also good choices, but the new 1602 variant of one of the main Avengers (who I won't spoil) didn't do much for me and Dum Dum Dugan is still just kind of there. The Dinosaurs are more of a distraction than an vital component to the conflict and while the conflict between the colonists and the Indians (Native Americans) did factor into the story's climax, any social commentary that was meant to be made was drowned out by everything else going on. Vague musings on religion also didn't do anything more for me than they did in the original series, but their inclusion did at least help this feel somewhat connected with the previous adventure. My biggest issues with the story come from the fact that nothing of note really happens during the span of the 5 issues aside from Peter and David realizing the character arcs that should have been included in Gaiman's series. The exclusion of all of the 1602 X-Men and Fantastic 4 characters felt like a glaring omission with no mention provided for where they all wandered off to. The cumulative effect is a much less grand tale than 1602 fans might have been expecting. This could have been salvaged somewhat by some quality artwork, but that aspect is unfortunately mishandled as well...
THE ART
One of my biggest pet peeves with comics is when the artist changes midway through, especially since this change seems like it is almost never for the better. The art in the first two issues of NEW WORLD is definitely not as distinct as the original series, it is perfectly serviceable and didn't really bother me. From Issue #3 onward though, the style shifts dramatically to one that I did not find at all pleasing. I'm not sure what the reasoning for this change is, but it's not a great look when a five-issue run can't even keep the art consistent. While the visuals for first two issues were not as impressive as the series Gaiman penned, the final three make this series feel even more like one of those low budget Disney sequels from the 90s and early 2000s. I was also horrified that Virginia's cleavage is so prominently put on display by this second artist considering that I think she is supposed to be in her early to mid teens.
CONCLUSION
In the end, this series only holds any kind of value for those who read the original MARVEL 1602 and wanted to know what happens next for Peter and Bruce. It's not particularly worthwhile follow up to Gaiman's story in any other respect.
(+) Focus on Spider-Man and Hulk
(+) Virginia's character and powers are further explored
(-) New 1602 version of a classic avenger character felt lacking
(-) Dinosaurs have no purpose
(-) Only includes a fraction of the original 1602 cast
(-) Artist swap halfway through
(-) Cheaper-looking art styles overall
(-) Overall impression that this is a low-budget follow up rather than a meaningful sequel series
December 4, 2021
In the early 17th century, England of the Elizabethan era is under attack by a mysterious force and after Queen Elizabeth's death, the superheroes will have to assemble and fight for a reason.
What propelled me to pick this limited series? A few things attracted me. One is some quality staff was involved in publishing this series. Neil Gaiman wrote, Andy Kubert penciled, and Joe Quesada was editor-in-chief. Then, the plot was super-interesting; the idea of imagining Marvel's biggest superheroes 400 years back in England and the New World.
It was a carefully written story with major characters redefined in a different scenario. And then the continuity of 1602 in three different sequels helped the characters get to develop to understand the aftermath of the original source. My favorite character in the story was Doctor Strange and Peter Parker had the best character development.
The reader has to read Marvel 1602 with its three sequels. The first sequel is New World focusing on Hulk and Ironman; the second is Fantastick Four, and the last one is Spider-Man. In total there are 23 issues, each has at least 24 pages.
What propelled me to pick this limited series? A few things attracted me. One is some quality staff was involved in publishing this series. Neil Gaiman wrote, Andy Kubert penciled, and Joe Quesada was editor-in-chief. Then, the plot was super-interesting; the idea of imagining Marvel's biggest superheroes 400 years back in England and the New World.
It was a carefully written story with major characters redefined in a different scenario. And then the continuity of 1602 in three different sequels helped the characters get to develop to understand the aftermath of the original source. My favorite character in the story was Doctor Strange and Peter Parker had the best character development.
The reader has to read Marvel 1602 with its three sequels. The first sequel is New World focusing on Hulk and Ironman; the second is Fantastick Four, and the last one is Spider-Man. In total there are 23 issues, each has at least 24 pages.
August 2, 2025
Estaba bastante claro que las expansiones de la historia de "Marvel 1602" iban a desparramar e ir a peor. A pesar de tener a un escritor tan reputado como Greg Pak, el argumento es sencillamente tonto, ahora ya necesitan hacer un combinado con dinosaurios, eastern americano del XVII, indios, casacas rojas, cameos de superhéroes con trajes alternativos sin sentido y la mayor parte de viñetas con diálogos absurdos.
Se salva del desastre total por el dibujo del siempre fiable Greg Tocchini que aquí hace cosas interesantes con poco, no hay más que ver los bocetos del final del volumen, que se agradecen para seguir el proceso creativo.
Una lástima que este tipo de volúmenes sirva para enterrar cualquier posibilidad de continuidades alternativas a las historias habituales, hay que seguir en esos caminos, aunque a veces el árbol salga torcido.
Se salva del desastre total por el dibujo del siempre fiable Greg Tocchini que aquí hace cosas interesantes con poco, no hay más que ver los bocetos del final del volumen, que se agradecen para seguir el proceso creativo.
Una lástima que este tipo de volúmenes sirva para enterrar cualquier posibilidad de continuidades alternativas a las historias habituales, hay que seguir en esos caminos, aunque a veces el árbol salga torcido.
January 22, 2019
I’m addicted to this 1602 world, and I shall be sad when there are no more left to read. It’s really awesome.
This one contains so many awesome moments. It’s so well realized that I forget it’s a “spinoff” or “alternate universe,” and it really does feel like it was meant to be this way. If these were the first Marvel books, Marvel would be just as much of a monster today as it is.
What this REALLY gets down is the internal struggles. These are Marvel heroes at their most conflicted. Moreso than in the 616 canon,
It’s late and I’m sleepy... so I won’t prattle further... but if you aren’t balls deep in this series, you’re wrong.
This one contains so many awesome moments. It’s so well realized that I forget it’s a “spinoff” or “alternate universe,” and it really does feel like it was meant to be this way. If these were the first Marvel books, Marvel would be just as much of a monster today as it is.
What this REALLY gets down is the internal struggles. These are Marvel heroes at their most conflicted. Moreso than in the 616 canon,
It’s late and I’m sleepy... so I won’t prattle further... but if you aren’t balls deep in this series, you’re wrong.
March 6, 2023
Full review / all my reviews available on my blog
Marvel 1602 established a world where time travel managed to accidentally cause various heroes to be born around the year 1602, now in New World we see more fallout if that story. The 1602 Master Spider of course, but also Lord Iron, Master Jameson and his broadsheet, and, of course, the Hulk—who needs no puny time periodic appropriate name.
It feels like somewhat smaller a story than the original 1602 and more like we’re reading something that we’ve seen before, just with a new coat of paint.
Still fun though.
Marvel 1602 established a world where time travel managed to accidentally cause various heroes to be born around the year 1602, now in New World we see more fallout if that story. The 1602 Master Spider of course, but also Lord Iron, Master Jameson and his broadsheet, and, of course, the Hulk—who needs no puny time periodic appropriate name.
It feels like somewhat smaller a story than the original 1602 and more like we’re reading something that we’ve seen before, just with a new coat of paint.
Still fun though.
October 13, 2017
Graphic Novel Book Club:
Sadly, while I was really excited to read the 1602 series/universe all as one, I was not very impressed by the actual use of the characters, plotlines, and especially side series. A lot of it felt like really big shoutouts being tenuously connected so that old fans would understand but the new reader wouldn't understand what was going on at all.
Sadly, while I was really excited to read the 1602 series/universe all as one, I was not very impressed by the actual use of the characters, plotlines, and especially side series. A lot of it felt like really big shoutouts being tenuously connected so that old fans would understand but the new reader wouldn't understand what was going on at all.
December 24, 2023
6/10:
This quick 5-issue run is an interesting addition to Earth-311 and the world of Marvel 1602, but it’s so rushed with way too many plot details incorporated. Including Spider-Man, Hulk, Green Goblin, Iron Man, and more into this story just over-saturates the plot and doesn’t let anything impact the reader.
If only the artists could actually differentiate characters in this 🥴
This quick 5-issue run is an interesting addition to Earth-311 and the world of Marvel 1602, but it’s so rushed with way too many plot details incorporated. Including Spider-Man, Hulk, Green Goblin, Iron Man, and more into this story just over-saturates the plot and doesn’t let anything impact the reader.
If only the artists could actually differentiate characters in this 🥴
October 15, 2024
2⭐. This definitely wasn't it. The plot was more confusing than the original run, and the art was legit bad. I don't know if the illustrators were rushed, but perspective was repeatedly off, and the drawings of characters looked terrible. So much variability page-to-page sometimes it was hard to tell who a certain character was supposed to be. Doesn't stand up even a little to Gaiman's original.
December 8, 2019
I actually liked this better than the first one even though it was much more your standard comic fare. I felt like the characters were better-characterized, I appreciated the Tony Stark whump, the Native Americans had speaking roles and actual agency, and also there were more dinosaurs.
May 2, 2021
This picks up where Neil Gaiman's 1602 left off. I enjoyed it and it was very interesting, but it felt a bit thin. It lacked depth and deserved more time and issues compared to the first series. I wanted to know so much more.
April 5, 2023
Again, not the elegant representation of Marvel in 1602 that Gaiman did.
Better writing than the Fantastic Four one, much better artwork too.
Why were there dinosaurs in America? They served no real purpose either.
And just where the hell IS Wolverine? :O
Better writing than the Fantastic Four one, much better artwork too.
Why were there dinosaurs in America? They served no real purpose either.
And just where the hell IS Wolverine? :O
April 16, 2019
A great continuation of the epic 1602 book by Neil Gaiman. This one takes the story in interesting directions. A great read.
October 7, 2019
Fantastic alternative history and look into the past with some of modern comics most famous characters changing the timeline.
December 27, 2019
The Hulk, Spider-man and Iron-man in the new World of 1602
January 19, 2020
Great artwork, sometimes confusing story
April 8, 2023
Es una secuela decente de la original 1602 a la que salva sobre todo ser una historia de Spider-Man. La parte de Hulk e Iron Man es bastante tristona. Se deja leer.
November 22, 2024
Better pacing than the first book, but the new art makes it unfortunately difficult to follow at times.
March 26, 2025
doesn’t really live up to the OG 1602. It took a while to find its footing, but the ending was pretty good.
February 21, 2021
Maravilhoso, porradaria e dinossauros
December 22, 2012
The saga began by Neil Gaiman in his stellar book 1602 continues! Except that he's no longer writing it....He did serve as "creative consultant" for this book though, so I can only assume that's why it was "meh" as opposed to being a total suckfest.
Okay, so when 1602 left off Steve Rogers was returned to the future along with Sir Nicholas Fury, the Witchbreed left on a quest of their own as did the Fantastick Four, David Banner was hit with all the gamma energy of the closing space/time rift, as was a spider that bit young Peter Parquah. The colony of Roanoke declared its independence from Britain, and that was that. Now King James wants to know why Banner isn't back with Fury's head, so he sends Captain Ross and Antonio Stark, Lord Iron to the New World to reclaim him. In other news, Norman Osborne is stirring up trouble with the natives for the colony in a bid to find the source of all the strangeness that has plagued the New World recently, hoping to exploit it to his own ends....
The resulting battle feels like it should be epic, but doesn't quite make it. If you were left unsatisfied at the end of 1602, you probably would do well to read this and get a little more closure at least. But be forewarned, it has nowhere near the awesomeness of Gaiman's original.
Okay, so when 1602 left off Steve Rogers was returned to the future along with Sir Nicholas Fury, the Witchbreed left on a quest of their own as did the Fantastick Four, David Banner was hit with all the gamma energy of the closing space/time rift, as was a spider that bit young Peter Parquah. The colony of Roanoke declared its independence from Britain, and that was that. Now King James wants to know why Banner isn't back with Fury's head, so he sends Captain Ross and Antonio Stark, Lord Iron to the New World to reclaim him. In other news, Norman Osborne is stirring up trouble with the natives for the colony in a bid to find the source of all the strangeness that has plagued the New World recently, hoping to exploit it to his own ends....
The resulting battle feels like it should be epic, but doesn't quite make it. If you were left unsatisfied at the end of 1602, you probably would do well to read this and get a little more closure at least. But be forewarned, it has nowhere near the awesomeness of Gaiman's original.
May 13, 2013
I stumbled across this on accident. Who knew that there was a sequel to Neil Gaiman's Marvel 1602? The strange thing about it is that it doesn't have much to do with the original, production wise. Did Gaiman even have anything to do with this sequal? The art is different than the stylistic ink on pencil sketch that fit with original and stood out simply because the characters, while familiar, are in a completely different time period/universe. Also, I couldn't find any Gaiman credit at all either. The story is alright. Like the original, I care about the characters, there are still a lot of strange and fairly confusing unexplained subplots and character developments, but, in the end, it's good Marvel fun.
April 23, 2010
While not as great as the previous two, it certainly works. The strength of the whole series is capturing the sense of the 17th century and placing the characters in that context in a way we can still recognize them. In this volume, J.Jonah Jameson is definitely recognizable, so to speak. Some things never change, and seeing him was most amusing. The end of the tale seem a bit of a compromise, but the very last scene does leave things open. Overall, it was a pretty quick read, and maybe that is why I did not rate it as high as the others. It did not quite feel as immersive as the others. I did find myself missing Rojhaz (Steve Rogers).
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