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Black British
A sharply funny yet poignant story about a courageous girl growing up in 1960s North India, from an exciting new voice in Australian fiction.
In the turbulent years that follow the British Empire’s collapse in India, rebellious and inquisitive Lucy de Souza is born into an affluent Indian family that once prospered under the Raj. Known as Black British because of their English language and customs, when the British deserted India Lucy’s family was left behind, strangers in their own land.
Now living isolated from the hostile locals who see her family as remnants of an oppressive regime, a young Lucy grows up in the confines of their grand yet ramshackle home located in the dry, dispirited plains of Kanpur. But when it is time to start her education, Lucy finds herself angry and alone, struggling to find her place in this gentle country ravaged by poverty and hardship, surrounded by girls who look like her but don’t speak her language. Encouraged by her strong-minded mother and two older sisters, as she matures the ever-feisty Lucy begins to question the injustices around her, before facing a decision that will change the course of her life forever.
A richly visceral and stunning debut, based on the author’s own childhood, Black British is an unflinching and beautiful narrative about feminism, family and the search for identity.
In the turbulent years that follow the British Empire’s collapse in India, rebellious and inquisitive Lucy de Souza is born into an affluent Indian family that once prospered under the Raj. Known as Black British because of their English language and customs, when the British deserted India Lucy’s family was left behind, strangers in their own land.
Now living isolated from the hostile locals who see her family as remnants of an oppressive regime, a young Lucy grows up in the confines of their grand yet ramshackle home located in the dry, dispirited plains of Kanpur. But when it is time to start her education, Lucy finds herself angry and alone, struggling to find her place in this gentle country ravaged by poverty and hardship, surrounded by girls who look like her but don’t speak her language. Encouraged by her strong-minded mother and two older sisters, as she matures the ever-feisty Lucy begins to question the injustices around her, before facing a decision that will change the course of her life forever.
A richly visceral and stunning debut, based on the author’s own childhood, Black British is an unflinching and beautiful narrative about feminism, family and the search for identity.
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272 pages, Kindle Edition
First published June 1, 2016
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June 13, 2016
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Capturing the innocence of youth this novel has a charming authentic voice and I loved every word of it. Lucy De Souza is our narrator – she is charming, innocent, well-mannered yet delightfully inquisitive about the world; she likes things to makes sense, to be logical (and the Sisters in the convent don’t speak of logic, rather demand their charges obey without question) and Lucy likes to question. At times humorous but mostly full of intelligent observations of the world around her, this is a very engaging read. Lucy how did you get to be so smart? Family makes such a big and lasting impression here.
A thoughtful look at history, colonialism, migration and displacement with a feminist bent, this story is succinct yet powerful. Hebe De Souza asks and answers the question – what/where is home? Her response is interesting and personal and can be applied to contemporary discussions regarding refuge and migration today. A wonderful, well written, engaging read.
Capturing the innocence of youth this novel has a charming authentic voice and I loved every word of it. Lucy De Souza is our narrator – she is charming, innocent, well-mannered yet delightfully inquisitive about the world; she likes things to makes sense, to be logical (and the Sisters in the convent don’t speak of logic, rather demand their charges obey without question) and Lucy likes to question. At times humorous but mostly full of intelligent observations of the world around her, this is a very engaging read. Lucy how did you get to be so smart? Family makes such a big and lasting impression here.
A thoughtful look at history, colonialism, migration and displacement with a feminist bent, this story is succinct yet powerful. Hebe De Souza asks and answers the question – what/where is home? Her response is interesting and personal and can be applied to contemporary discussions regarding refuge and migration today. A wonderful, well written, engaging read.
June 4, 2016
I found this book while I was browsing through the new releases in my local bookshop this week. It is a fascinating story set in India in the 1960s. Black British is narrated by Lucy and sounds like her memoirs. Growing up in an affluent Goan family that adopted British culture during the Raj, they are now facing dwindling fortunes as India struggles to cope with its newly won independence. Lucy uses events and characters to illustrate her lifestyle that is left over from a glorious, scintillating past. There are times when the narrative is particularly moving as when Lucy talks about the death of a much-loved great uncle and in the picture she paints of the hole left behind when her sister leaves home. At other times she is so funny. I laughed out loud at Lucy’s absurd solution to That ubiquitous Catholic practice of Confession and her inimitable response to bullying nuns. I found the book an excellent read. I couldn’t put it down as I enjoyed Lucy’s wicked prose and kept wanting to know what else she had to say. Well worth a read.
June 13, 2016
What a great read!!! To be taken on a journey through time and culture identifying with colourful characters in an unfamiliar setting hidden in a bygone era in India. I loved the strength of the main character Lucy and her quest for belonging. It opened up wonderful stories and experiences in a land left in chaos. I loved the descriptions of household items and chores held dear in the family traditions . I loved being introduced to the many characters that added depth and challenged the reader to consider their own stance on feminism, inequality and social dysfunction. The novel covered quite a range of topics none more controversial than the character of Uncle Claude, whose story was told with honesty and gentility through the unraveling of understanding that only comes with the maturity of Lucy. I read the novel easily in 5 hours on a long distance flight. It made the time go quickly because it introduced me to a world I had not been aware of. I was thoroughly enchanted.
June 15, 2016
Have thoroughly enjoyed reading Black British.I shared some childhood memories with the author such as the christmas cake preparation, (in our case the making of the pudding).The old family home (in my case,our grand-parents home) with it's many unused secret and mysterious rooms with cupboards begging to be explored. Lucy grabbed me right from the start;her defiance of the nuns,the horror of having two lots of twin sets passed down from her two sisters,and I laughed out loud visualising the licking of the bowl at the posh establishment..in front of the family.I loved watching Lucy grow into a mature young woman,but felt sadness at the inevitability of the family having to leave the only home they had known. A well written book had me begging for more..cant wait for the next book!
July 7, 2016
My mother is from India so naturally I was very keen to read Black British. I wasn’t disappointed. The story sounds like it’s based on real life and is about Lucy, a 37 year old who visits Goa, the land of her ancestors. There she makes friends with a stranger to whom she pours out her heart as she reflects on her childhood growing up in the 1960s. She explains how her family migrated from Portuguese Goa to Kanpur in British India 1500 miles away and how they had to adopt British culture to survive and be successful. Now with India’s independence from Britain the family find their prosperity is declining and they have to adapt to a new life.
Lucy tells her story around characters and events as she talks about the German nuns at the convent school and how she and her friends found ways to undermine their power games. Her illustrations of the Christmas season brings back my own childhood Christmases with my mother managing the cooking and sweet-making with army-like efficiency. The antics of her extended family alternatively had me in stitches and in tears but I was particularly moved by the poignancy of their last few months in their home.
This is a book that is well worth reading. It is full of good, wholesome humour and at the same time tells a moving and unusual story.
Lucy tells her story around characters and events as she talks about the German nuns at the convent school and how she and her friends found ways to undermine their power games. Her illustrations of the Christmas season brings back my own childhood Christmases with my mother managing the cooking and sweet-making with army-like efficiency. The antics of her extended family alternatively had me in stitches and in tears but I was particularly moved by the poignancy of their last few months in their home.
This is a book that is well worth reading. It is full of good, wholesome humour and at the same time tells a moving and unusual story.
September 29, 2016
I love India, I've been there 3 times. I loved Black British. It was a real eye opener for me. The mother is my favourite character - she's such a strong woman. I loved the insights on family and injustice. I want to know what happened to the family. I'm going to read it again.
February 12, 2022
The cover of this book describes it as a novel but it doesn't read like one. It reads like a memoir of growing up in India. Some of the stories might be fascinating for the family but were actually kind of dull - like the cooking of the fruit mince and the anecdotes of the family dog. The insights at the end of the book were the most interesting parts.
June 13, 2016
I received a copy of this title from the publisher for review.
Ten Second Synopsis:
Lucy is an independent spirit in a changing social order. This narrative charts her journey from strong-willed young girl to independent woman as her country faces irrevocable changes that will force her to question who she is and where she belongs.
Black British is, for the most part, a thinly-disguised memoir dressed up as fiction. The story revolves around a woman who has returned to her ancestral home and ends up telling her life story to a stranger who asks a simple enough question: “Where do you come from, lady?” The majority of the tale occurs in 1960s India, with extremely brief flashes back to the original chatting pair at the end of each chapter to link the sections together.
While I enjoyed the book, narrated by thinker and independent spirit Lucy, the youngest of three sisters living a comparatively wealthy upbringing as English-speaking, private school-attending young ladies surrounded by great swathes of people living in poverty, it was not the suspenseful and tumultuous ride suggested by the blurb. I was expecting a lot more insight into the social upheaval of the time, but most of the story takes place within the walls of Lucy’s family’s compound and the girls are largely shielded from their family’s precarious social position and its implications by the adults in their lives. Basically, I wanted the danger to feature more largely in the telling of a story that sees Lucy go from her early years of schooling to the cusp of adulthood with nary a scary experience to report – except for an overzealous monkey intruder and a very hairy cab ride after she ventures as a young adult into the community with her father.
Even though the book didn’t end up being quite as exciting as I expected, it remains an absorbing snapshot of a time and place undergoing rapid and permanent social change. As English-speaking Catholics, Lucy’s family are well outside what was considered typical in her community and the struggles of being the outsider, even in one’s own home, are thoroughly explored. The prominent motif throughout the book is the security provided by a loving family unit and the ways in which adults nurture the enquiring minds of young people, even in situations that will cause the young person to move up a rung on the ladder of social maturity.
The book deals with a number of social issues including domestic abuse and the place of people identifying as homosexual in an unforgiving culture and time, and as the reader experiences these issues through Lucy’s eyes, it is clear that situations that one might consider black and white, move through every shade of grey when considered in a larger social context. The implications for individuals of their life choices – whether to remain in an unhappy marriage or relegate oneself to a life of hardship, for instance – are offered as fodder to fuel Lucy’s own looming crisis: to remain in the only home she knows, despite her outsider status and the ever-present threat of violence and hardship, or leave her roots behind for the sake of building a comfortable future.
This is certainly a book that focuses on familial relationships as a means for exploring the wider social conflicts that influence the decisions we make as individuals. As a fictional memoir, it is engaging and the characters are fleshed out and authentic. I would have liked to have seen more made of the Lucy of “twenty-one years later”. The tiny flashes we get of the Lucy who has returned to her homeland in search of belonging felt a bit contrived, as so much of the focus was on the period set in the 1960s, and I would have liked to have been privy to what Lucy did with, at least, some of her life since her family’s decision to move away. Nevertheless, this is a strong debut from De Souza and I would be interested in seeing what she comes up with next – particularly something that is wholly fictional.
If you are looking for historical fiction that reads like a memoir and places an emphasis on growing up as an outsider in one’s own land, you should certainly give Black British a look.
Ten Second Synopsis:
Lucy is an independent spirit in a changing social order. This narrative charts her journey from strong-willed young girl to independent woman as her country faces irrevocable changes that will force her to question who she is and where she belongs.
Black British is, for the most part, a thinly-disguised memoir dressed up as fiction. The story revolves around a woman who has returned to her ancestral home and ends up telling her life story to a stranger who asks a simple enough question: “Where do you come from, lady?” The majority of the tale occurs in 1960s India, with extremely brief flashes back to the original chatting pair at the end of each chapter to link the sections together.
While I enjoyed the book, narrated by thinker and independent spirit Lucy, the youngest of three sisters living a comparatively wealthy upbringing as English-speaking, private school-attending young ladies surrounded by great swathes of people living in poverty, it was not the suspenseful and tumultuous ride suggested by the blurb. I was expecting a lot more insight into the social upheaval of the time, but most of the story takes place within the walls of Lucy’s family’s compound and the girls are largely shielded from their family’s precarious social position and its implications by the adults in their lives. Basically, I wanted the danger to feature more largely in the telling of a story that sees Lucy go from her early years of schooling to the cusp of adulthood with nary a scary experience to report – except for an overzealous monkey intruder and a very hairy cab ride after she ventures as a young adult into the community with her father.
Even though the book didn’t end up being quite as exciting as I expected, it remains an absorbing snapshot of a time and place undergoing rapid and permanent social change. As English-speaking Catholics, Lucy’s family are well outside what was considered typical in her community and the struggles of being the outsider, even in one’s own home, are thoroughly explored. The prominent motif throughout the book is the security provided by a loving family unit and the ways in which adults nurture the enquiring minds of young people, even in situations that will cause the young person to move up a rung on the ladder of social maturity.
The book deals with a number of social issues including domestic abuse and the place of people identifying as homosexual in an unforgiving culture and time, and as the reader experiences these issues through Lucy’s eyes, it is clear that situations that one might consider black and white, move through every shade of grey when considered in a larger social context. The implications for individuals of their life choices – whether to remain in an unhappy marriage or relegate oneself to a life of hardship, for instance – are offered as fodder to fuel Lucy’s own looming crisis: to remain in the only home she knows, despite her outsider status and the ever-present threat of violence and hardship, or leave her roots behind for the sake of building a comfortable future.
This is certainly a book that focuses on familial relationships as a means for exploring the wider social conflicts that influence the decisions we make as individuals. As a fictional memoir, it is engaging and the characters are fleshed out and authentic. I would have liked to have seen more made of the Lucy of “twenty-one years later”. The tiny flashes we get of the Lucy who has returned to her homeland in search of belonging felt a bit contrived, as so much of the focus was on the period set in the 1960s, and I would have liked to have been privy to what Lucy did with, at least, some of her life since her family’s decision to move away. Nevertheless, this is a strong debut from De Souza and I would be interested in seeing what she comes up with next – particularly something that is wholly fictional.
If you are looking for historical fiction that reads like a memoir and places an emphasis on growing up as an outsider in one’s own land, you should certainly give Black British a look.
May 23, 2017
Described as a novel, this is a thinly-disguised memoir. There's no plot, no storyline, just a narrative of a girl's childhood life. And what a privileged, self-entitled life! Of Portugese-Goan ancestry, not once does the author identify as Indian. No wonder ( if the author's claims are true) the locals hated her family. They set themselves apart, a walled-off elite who spoke only English, portraying themselves as under constant threat of violence and kidnap from the locals. The same locals who worked for her father and who demonstrated their respect for him with lowered eyes and gifts of marigold garlands. The cognitive dissonance throughout the book really did my head in and it was a relief to finally reach the end.
January 24, 2017
To be completely honest I found this book a little bit "meh" and self centred and boring. I expected a story of a family rising above the constraints of colonialism. Instead I got a non descript narrative of a family that was so self centred and indoctrinated that I just skimmed through the pages.
I am sure the author had every intention of grabbing the audience with her words, but to me, there was no story line. There was no essence. Instead I read about a family so intrenched in their own worth that they weren't able to get over their own self imposed self importance.
Read it if you can.
meh.
I am sure the author had every intention of grabbing the audience with her words, but to me, there was no story line. There was no essence. Instead I read about a family so intrenched in their own worth that they weren't able to get over their own self imposed self importance.
Read it if you can.
meh.
October 4, 2016
Black British is fascinating. It keeps the reader interested and when I finished I wanted to know more about the family and how they fared. The writing is entertaining and I would not hesitate to recommend this book to others.
October 4, 2016
Unusual book. Beautifully written. Strong characters. Based on the author's life. No sex or violence!
Worth reading.
Worth reading.
October 20, 2016
Beautifully written and a great start but felt it didn't go anywhere!
June 7, 2017
This was a random pick up at the library and I thought it might be a novel about black folks in England but it was nothing of the sort. Really an autobiography of a woman whose ancestors had distanced themselves from their Goanese roots in order to succeed in British occupied India, only to find that in the 20th century they were outcasts because of their English language and comparative wealth. This resulted in their fearing for their safety, living behind iron bars in a rapidly deteriorating mansion, with no future for their three daughters, culminating in emigration to Britain. The device of her story being told to a stranger was unnecessary but I found the details of India in the 50s and 60s fascinating.
June 12, 2017
A well written story with an Indian Pride and Prejudice type of feminism. Reminds me a bit of Downton Abbey. Black British contains delightful descriptions of people, places, food, animals, the environment and other surroundings. The author uses vivid vocabulary to illustrate an era long gone. I learnt a few new words, as I pictured the pages come to life. It makes me want to go to India!
Sentences that stand out for me include ‘Learning comes from all sorts of places, academia is only one source.’ (p 76) and ‘It must be so comforting to feel superior and to correct everyone at every opportunity. (p 136).
A highly recommended read
Sentences that stand out for me include ‘Learning comes from all sorts of places, academia is only one source.’ (p 76) and ‘It must be so comforting to feel superior and to correct everyone at every opportunity. (p 136).
A highly recommended read
June 12, 2017
A very enjoyable, light-hearted, easy to read, fun story.
I found the cover image very striking and intriguing as it gave the book depth, character and an interesting cultural feel.
It's a stand out character and well worth the read.
I found the cover image very striking and intriguing as it gave the book depth, character and an interesting cultural feel.
It's a stand out character and well worth the read.
October 24, 2025
Went to author interview at the library, she inscribed my copy; ‘Enjoy this different picture of India that reflects my family’s story. Lucy shares my childhood home that features in the story and on the book cover’ August 2016.
May 31, 2017
A lovely read, very lyrical and evocative of the place and time. A snapshot from another era and interesting family story.
June 13, 2017
The book is an incredible read.
Extremely well written and had me captivated from beginning to end.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys a great plot along with fascinating characters.
Extremely well written and had me captivated from beginning to end.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys a great plot along with fascinating characters.
July 3, 2016
Black British is the story of Lucy, the youngest of three daughters who reminisces with a stranger about her childhood growing up in an affluent family in Kanpor, post Independence. Her life of luxury and privilege dwindles as Lucy and her family are left ostracised by their village and community; They are no longer Indian, but British they are not. They are in no mans land.
I have to admit, along with a couple of other reviews I've seen I nearly gave up on this book. The first two thirds I just could not get to grips with, but I stuck with it and the last third had me roped in to the last page. Strangely, I felt I knew more about some of Lucy's extended family than I did about her own, and a couple of scenes were quite touching and emotional to read. It really felt like Hebe hit her stride in the second half of the book.
Hebe De Souza writes very beautifully, in an almost sing-song way, and the whole book is extraordinarily detailed and descriptive. However, I think at times overly so and sentences like 'she smiled with her mouth' just didn't work for me. I wonder if the heavy detail and time taken to explain the general feelings and political situation at the time were at the cost of well developed main characters.
It sounds like I'm a little down on Black British, but I really did enjoy the last third and I came away understanding more about what happened in post-Independence India and the fall of the British Empire. Looking at the many other book reviewers who have rated this one very highly. I guess that I'm one of those readers that just didn't quite get attached to this book, I need a character to take the journey with and for me, they just weren't strong enough to carry me through.
A proficient first novel and I do look forward to reading Hebe De Souza's future books and seeing how her writing develops.
2.5 out of 5 from me
I have to admit, along with a couple of other reviews I've seen I nearly gave up on this book. The first two thirds I just could not get to grips with, but I stuck with it and the last third had me roped in to the last page. Strangely, I felt I knew more about some of Lucy's extended family than I did about her own, and a couple of scenes were quite touching and emotional to read. It really felt like Hebe hit her stride in the second half of the book.
Hebe De Souza writes very beautifully, in an almost sing-song way, and the whole book is extraordinarily detailed and descriptive. However, I think at times overly so and sentences like 'she smiled with her mouth' just didn't work for me. I wonder if the heavy detail and time taken to explain the general feelings and political situation at the time were at the cost of well developed main characters.
It sounds like I'm a little down on Black British, but I really did enjoy the last third and I came away understanding more about what happened in post-Independence India and the fall of the British Empire. Looking at the many other book reviewers who have rated this one very highly. I guess that I'm one of those readers that just didn't quite get attached to this book, I need a character to take the journey with and for me, they just weren't strong enough to carry me through.
A proficient first novel and I do look forward to reading Hebe De Souza's future books and seeing how her writing develops.
2.5 out of 5 from me
August 4, 2016
Black British is an unusual book written as a memoir and centred around events and characters. Lucy is at a cross road in her life so goes back to her ancestral roots in Goa looking for answers. There she feels even more displaced. She tells a distinguished older man her story which is a flood of reminisces of her life in Kanpur in North India 15000 miles away from Goa.
Lucy tells her new friend that her family originally came from Goa and, in the late 1800s moved to north India which, at the time was a British colony. That’s where Lucy was born. She has sharply funny observations about the way her family combats local dangers and is wickedly funny and at times hits the nail squarely on the head when she talks about the nuns at school. Her young self was determined to question the current status quo. Along the way she has interesting observations on racism and discrimination as she tries to understand power imbalances. Lucy describes her family’s very special Christmas celebrations and Christmas days that will resonate with every reader. We can all identify with excesses brought on by lubricated tongues which Lucy’s strong-minded, feminist mother uses as a learning tool for her daughters.
As Lucy matures she learns about human interaction and subtle cruelties from her eccentric extended family. The author excels herself in her interpretations of human behaviour. The final chapters are a moving account of dismantling many years of personal history – actions that leave a person feeling naked, raw and vulnerable. The final chapter recounts their last day at home and I swung between tears and laughter until finally, ‘there was nothing left to say.’
A fantastic read with an unusual picture of colonialism and the chaos left behind when a great power crumbles. It is a picture of an up and coming country, India. I think everyone should read it.
June 13, 2016
3.5 stars
Lucy de Souza is growing up in the 60s in North India. She and her family are known as "Black British" - Indian by blood, but British by language and culture - and so are ostracised by their community. As she gets older, Lucy, with her two older sisters, learn to face the injustices in life together with the love, support and careful instruction of their parents.
A work of fiction, written as a memoir, but using the author's childhood experience as a basis for the story. I gad a lot of trouble getting into it until two-thirds of the way in...then I couldn't stop reading.
All-in-all, not my favourite, but a solid debut from Hebe de Souza.
(Book provided for free in order to give an honest and unbiased review.)
{My in-depth review can be found: http://www.planetbooks.com.au/black-b... }
Lucy de Souza is growing up in the 60s in North India. She and her family are known as "Black British" - Indian by blood, but British by language and culture - and so are ostracised by their community. As she gets older, Lucy, with her two older sisters, learn to face the injustices in life together with the love, support and careful instruction of their parents.
A work of fiction, written as a memoir, but using the author's childhood experience as a basis for the story. I gad a lot of trouble getting into it until two-thirds of the way in...then I couldn't stop reading.
All-in-all, not my favourite, but a solid debut from Hebe de Souza.
(Book provided for free in order to give an honest and unbiased review.)
{My in-depth review can be found: http://www.planetbooks.com.au/black-b... }
June 29, 2017
Lucy , the main character in Black British ,is based on the growing up experiences of the author , who has the unique ability to place Lucy inside the reader, seeing what Lucy sees , hearing what Lucy hears , feeling what Lucy feels . Share her emotions , the highs and lows of her life , and come to understand the meaning behind the title " Black British ".
October 12, 2016
This was enjoyable. It wasn't what I expected and there is really no 'story' here, rather it is a simply written biographical note set in the 60s 70s India. A retelling of a particular family's life during a period of transition post Raj period into the modern age
July 6, 2017
An evocative blend of memoir and fiction, this coming-of-age story demonstrates the timelessness of the misplacement of peoples, cultures and languages. Hebe's gritty female protagonist Lucy, no doubt inspired by herself growing up, is counter-cultural, brazen, entitled, endearing, opinionated, strong and nurtured within the cocoon of a loving family whose wealth and sense of personal security is rapidly waning. Her characters are easily relatable as are the family antics described in the most poignant of ways. Growing up in India, a land not reknowed for its equal treatment of women, Lucy and her sisters are raised very much to be strong, independent little feminists, and yet their strength is often subdued by the growing unrest around them and resentment towards them as the last remnant of a British Empire that has lost not only its relevance in India, but its wealth, power and control. Leaving behind a people suffering greatly, warring and angry, Lucy is raised to understand the unjustness of her privilege, as much as her fortune. Her parents in their wisdom, instill in each of their daughters a need for awareness of their personal safety, an instinct to dull their fortunes to the outside world, and they quash any notions of entitlement as they arise by opening up their daughter's eyes to the harsh realities prevalent in most of India.
The story ends beautifully, in a bittersweet event where Lucy's family are forced to make a decision that allows them to continue the journey begun by their ancestors. It is a full-circle ending that leaves the reader satisfied. I'd love to think there is a sequel so we can learn how Hebe grew into adulthood and see where the winds of life blew her.
The story ends beautifully, in a bittersweet event where Lucy's family are forced to make a decision that allows them to continue the journey begun by their ancestors. It is a full-circle ending that leaves the reader satisfied. I'd love to think there is a sequel so we can learn how Hebe grew into adulthood and see where the winds of life blew her.
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