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彼氏彼女の事情 [Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou] #15
Kare Kano: His and Her Circumstances, Vol. 15
After Soichiro threatens Yukino's status as most popular, Yukino tries to regain her idol-like popularity, struggling with her own inner problems while they develop a unique relationship.
200 pages, Paperback
First published February 5, 2003
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About the author
Masami Tsuda
103 books127 followersTsuda (津田雅美) is a tea-loving, crazy manga-ka who lives in Japan. Her most famous work that has been translated into several languages is Kare Kano (or His and Her Circumstances).
Tsuda likes operas, historical sites, and classic children's tales.
Tsuda likes operas, historical sites, and classic children's tales.
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April 22, 2020
Me está encantando, tomo un giro totalmente inesperado!!
Si bien se nota que es un temporal rompe el estereotipo de los mangas shojo románticos
Si bien se nota que es un temporal rompe el estereotipo de los mangas shojo románticos
July 12, 2021
有馬黑了那麼多集，雪野一句話就撥雲見日了orz
January 4, 2024
Letto in un fiato!
September 30, 2023
Dios mío... El dolor
March 18, 2018
This is hard, this is a really hard read for me.
I'm a mom. I come from a background of domestic abuse. I come from parents who weren't good to each other or for each other. I have a child. I don't want to do that to her. I want to be better for her.
Watching a character go through such abuse when he is very little older than my daughter at the hands of his mother...well, you can imagine how triggery this is.
Plus there's a rough sexual encounter. And triggered memories that keep resurfacing.
All in all, it's well done. I just won't be sleeping tonight.
I'm a mom. I come from a background of domestic abuse. I come from parents who weren't good to each other or for each other. I have a child. I don't want to do that to her. I want to be better for her.
Watching a character go through such abuse when he is very little older than my daughter at the hands of his mother...well, you can imagine how triggery this is.
Plus there's a rough sexual encounter. And triggered memories that keep resurfacing.
All in all, it's well done. I just won't be sleeping tonight.
May 20, 2021
Kare Kano is a gut-wrenching and wild ride. If you have only seen the anime, then you are missing a lot of the meat of this story. Kare Kano follows the story of Yukino who strives to be an image of perfection. She’s beautiful, is at the top of her class, and seems naturally good at everything she tries. However, this perfection is a complete facade. Yukino’s home life reveals her to be a messy, rude, narcissist, who is obsessed with being the best. Yukino’s obsessive pursuits seem to be fueled by the praise and admiration she receives from those around her, it becomes clear that she has a crippling fear of failure. Meanwhile, her class rival, Soichiro aims for perfection for entirely different reasons. Soichiro’s perfect life aims to conceal his dark past as he tries to make up for the abuse and trauma he faced as a child. He clearly has an overwhelming fear of loss and rejection.
Throughout the story, these two characters’ lives intertwine as they learn one another’s secrets and help one another work through their problems. Each of them grows as individuals separate from one another, but they also grow as friends and eventually a couple. If you have watched the anime, then your perception of this story is probably that it is a romantic comedy. While you are not necessarily wrong, this manga reaches levels of depth and darkness that the anime definitely does not prepare you for. This story tackles topics like self-harm, suicide, domestic abuse, sexual assault, and unwanted pregnancy, and a whole slew of mental health-related issues. While the manga covers much of these topics with noticeable care and sensitivity, I will say that given that the manga ran from the mid-’90s to the early ’00s, its understanding of some of these issues can feel quite dated at times.
There are elements to this story that I think are actively harmful. Specifically, the great length’s to which Yukino attempts to heal Soichiro’s dark past. This establishes a narrative in which a woman’s strength is defined by her ability to stand by her man no matter what. Unfortunately, that kind of storytelling has real-world consequences no matter how realistic the depiction is in this case. While it is not at the forefront of the story-telling, this manga also perpetuates the idea that girls should pursue older men; that they have more to offer and are simply more suitable partners than more age-appropriate options. This is a sentiment that I absolutely do not agree with, and I believe it to be a harmful trope.
That being said, while this story is quite dark at times it has an undeniable honesty and relevancy to the narrative. In many ways, it feels realistic, even if it is uncomfortable, which is probably why so many manga readers still flock to this series years after its publication. If you liked Fruits Basket or Mars, then I think you would enjoy Kare Kano. I think Fruits Basket does a better job unpacking different kinds of trauma, especially in regards to toxic masculinity. However, for better or worse, Kare Kano never relies on metaphor or fantasy to soften the blow of hard-hitting topics and in that way feels all too real in its delivery.
Throughout the story, these two characters’ lives intertwine as they learn one another’s secrets and help one another work through their problems. Each of them grows as individuals separate from one another, but they also grow as friends and eventually a couple. If you have watched the anime, then your perception of this story is probably that it is a romantic comedy. While you are not necessarily wrong, this manga reaches levels of depth and darkness that the anime definitely does not prepare you for. This story tackles topics like self-harm, suicide, domestic abuse, sexual assault, and unwanted pregnancy, and a whole slew of mental health-related issues. While the manga covers much of these topics with noticeable care and sensitivity, I will say that given that the manga ran from the mid-’90s to the early ’00s, its understanding of some of these issues can feel quite dated at times.
There are elements to this story that I think are actively harmful. Specifically, the great length’s to which Yukino attempts to heal Soichiro’s dark past. This establishes a narrative in which a woman’s strength is defined by her ability to stand by her man no matter what. Unfortunately, that kind of storytelling has real-world consequences no matter how realistic the depiction is in this case. While it is not at the forefront of the story-telling, this manga also perpetuates the idea that girls should pursue older men; that they have more to offer and are simply more suitable partners than more age-appropriate options. This is a sentiment that I absolutely do not agree with, and I believe it to be a harmful trope.
That being said, while this story is quite dark at times it has an undeniable honesty and relevancy to the narrative. In many ways, it feels realistic, even if it is uncomfortable, which is probably why so many manga readers still flock to this series years after its publication. If you liked Fruits Basket or Mars, then I think you would enjoy Kare Kano. I think Fruits Basket does a better job unpacking different kinds of trauma, especially in regards to toxic masculinity. However, for better or worse, Kare Kano never relies on metaphor or fantasy to soften the blow of hard-hitting topics and in that way feels all too real in its delivery.
March 3, 2024
4.5 rounded down. While this was nice it was harder to understand. While the art is still absolutely astounding, especially when it comes to the new visual metaphors Tsuda uses with baby Soichiro and the thorns, the actual discussion surrounding Soichiro’s mental health was a bit confusing and foggy for me. I get the general idea but it’s still hazy and confusing.
Additionally, the issues around Miyazawa and Soichiro hit a real boiling point that was a bit too heart-wrenching for me with how much it must’ve hurt for Miyazawa. I understood it was meant to be heart-wrenching but
Additionally, the issues around Miyazawa and Soichiro hit a real boiling point that was a bit too heart-wrenching for me with how much it must’ve hurt for Miyazawa. I understood it was meant to be heart-wrenching but
March 2, 2020
Benar-benar berdarah-darah nih ... Ya ampun, ngga tega lihatnya, anak kecil digituin!
Pengen peluk Arima T__T
Untunglah pada akhirnya Yukino menyelamatkannya. Such a strong girl.
"Ibu tak pernah mencintaiku. Dia hanya kebetulan melahirkanku ..."
--Arima
Pengen peluk Arima T__T
Untunglah pada akhirnya Yukino menyelamatkannya. Such a strong girl.
"Ibu tak pernah mencintaiku. Dia hanya kebetulan melahirkanku ..."
--Arima
September 26, 2020
Lo más edgy que ha tenido Kare Kano.
No me gustó para nada el cambio tan brusco que tiene Arima, ahora es todo un emo ¡uyyy, qué oscuro!
Ah, y no apoyo esa idea tonta de que la pareja sentimental deba actuar como un psicólogo. Y que recalquen cuán equivocada estaba Yukino por enfocarse en sus cosas es molesto ¿desde cuándo está mal la independencia emocional?
Sé que yo pedía tomos atrás un cambio más dramático, pero no esperaba que tratarían los problemas de forma tan pretenciosa.
Ni siquiero puedo comprender por qué todo el drama de Arima se soluciona así de fácil.
En fin, solo quiero que desaparezca la versión emo de Arima.
P.D. En este tomo los personajes decidieron que la mejor idea para solucionar los problemas era dándose de bofetadas ¿lo peor? Funcionó.
No me gustó para nada el cambio tan brusco que tiene Arima, ahora es todo un emo ¡uyyy, qué oscuro!
Ah, y no apoyo esa idea tonta de que la pareja sentimental deba actuar como un psicólogo. Y que recalquen cuán equivocada estaba Yukino por enfocarse en sus cosas es molesto ¿desde cuándo está mal la independencia emocional?
Sé que yo pedía tomos atrás un cambio más dramático, pero no esperaba que tratarían los problemas de forma tan pretenciosa.
Ni siquiero puedo comprender por qué todo el drama de Arima se soluciona así de fácil.
En fin, solo quiero que desaparezca la versión emo de Arima.
P.D. En este tomo los personajes decidieron que la mejor idea para solucionar los problemas era dándose de bofetadas ¿lo peor? Funcionó.
November 19, 2023
Omg I’m so glad that they were able to make it through this storm… I never cried so hard!!!
Child abuse is so fuckin sad and heartbreaking. Children are little angels. They don’t deserve that shit!!!! It makes me so sick!!!
Child abuse is so fuckin sad and heartbreaking. Children are little angels. They don’t deserve that shit!!!! It makes me so sick!!!
June 1, 2017
Good volume.
June 17, 2018
Cute nostalgia!
December 6, 2019
4,5 stars
May 26, 2020
[6/10]
Chapters 69-73
This was a little intense...
Chapters 69-73
This was a little intense...
June 6, 2020
De los tomos más impactantes.
October 29, 2020
I loved this book
March 2, 2024
That was one emotional ride
June 6, 2016
Today's post is on Kare Kano: his and her circumstances volume 15 by Masami Tsuda. As it is the fifteenth in the series you need to have read the first fourteen to understand the story. The cover has Yukino and Soichiro on it. It is 200 pages long and is published by Tokyopop. The intended reader is someone who likes high school romances and drama. There is no language, implied sex, and mild violence in this volume. The story is told from the third person close of the main characters. There Be Spoilers Ahead.
From the back of the book- Soichiro's meetings with his birth mother continue to be a secret from everyone...especially Yukino. When his adoptive parents find out, they want him to be open with them, but how can he tell anyone about his memories of an abusive childhood? Instead, Soichiro turns to his best friend Asaba for support, while continuing to shut Yukino out. Will Soichiro finally tell Yukino the truth? Or will the consuming pain from his past destroy them both?
Review- At last Soichiro has begun to with what happened to him. He fights it all the way but in the end he faces himself and his past. That said it is a very hard read because Soichiro's mother abused him and we get to see it. But we get see really into his character and I think that is worth the hard read. Yukino is forced to prove that she really loves him no matter what; Soichiro also has to believe that. But we are not done with his mother just yet. Only six more volumes to go and more Drama ahead.
I give this volume a Five out of Five stars. I get nothing for my review and I bought this manga with my own money.
From the back of the book- Soichiro's meetings with his birth mother continue to be a secret from everyone...especially Yukino. When his adoptive parents find out, they want him to be open with them, but how can he tell anyone about his memories of an abusive childhood? Instead, Soichiro turns to his best friend Asaba for support, while continuing to shut Yukino out. Will Soichiro finally tell Yukino the truth? Or will the consuming pain from his past destroy them both?
Review- At last Soichiro has begun to with what happened to him. He fights it all the way but in the end he faces himself and his past. That said it is a very hard read because Soichiro's mother abused him and we get to see it. But we get see really into his character and I think that is worth the hard read. Yukino is forced to prove that she really loves him no matter what; Soichiro also has to believe that. But we are not done with his mother just yet. Only six more volumes to go and more Drama ahead.
I give this volume a Five out of Five stars. I get nothing for my review and I bought this manga with my own money.
October 12, 2007
Still currently reading... will reflect on entire manga series once I've finished the last volume. So far though... <3 <3 <3
Update (10/12): I finished the entire manga series--my first ever! After being an adoring fan of the anime series, my buddy Tyler finally convinced me (by buying me the first couple for a birthday gift) that I really needed to make the switch to the manga series. Really, I think he just wanted someone to be a little more even with him on the nerd scale. Well I was convinced after reading the first volume post anime (the volume with the play was rad!). The series is completely awesome! One of the youth I work with made fun of me for reading it and being into the "teen drama" anime's--but I think I am drawn to these anime's because of the type of sarcastic humor and character development the authors and creators often focus in on. Kare Kano is no exception and though the ending came together rather nicely (at least the last volume), it wasn't that "it all fits together like a cute little safe puzzle J.K. Rowling style" closure. Manga's are great because they are a really quick read--I can usually get through one or two volumes in an hour (or even less sometimes). Though the habit can be expensive so I recommend borrowing from friends, or the library, or buying used.
Update (10/12): I finished the entire manga series--my first ever! After being an adoring fan of the anime series, my buddy Tyler finally convinced me (by buying me the first couple for a birthday gift) that I really needed to make the switch to the manga series. Really, I think he just wanted someone to be a little more even with him on the nerd scale. Well I was convinced after reading the first volume post anime (the volume with the play was rad!). The series is completely awesome! One of the youth I work with made fun of me for reading it and being into the "teen drama" anime's--but I think I am drawn to these anime's because of the type of sarcastic humor and character development the authors and creators often focus in on. Kare Kano is no exception and though the ending came together rather nicely (at least the last volume), it wasn't that "it all fits together like a cute little safe puzzle J.K. Rowling style" closure. Manga's are great because they are a really quick read--I can usually get through one or two volumes in an hour (or even less sometimes). Though the habit can be expensive so I recommend borrowing from friends, or the library, or buying used.
March 2, 2009
Asaba:
Some people...
...are like sunshine, some like moonlight.
Sunshine people can shine on their own...and can ever give their light to others.
But Moonlight people are the kind that can only shine if they have a sunshine person to reflect.
Me and Arima are like moonlight.
I can understand his feelings...
...but I don't have the power to change him.
But I think you do, Miyazawa. If you tell him it can't go on like this, you can pull him back.
Wow. Awesome lines.
But this volume is pretty intense.
Some people...
...are like sunshine, some like moonlight.
Sunshine people can shine on their own...and can ever give their light to others.
But Moonlight people are the kind that can only shine if they have a sunshine person to reflect.
Me and Arima are like moonlight.
I can understand his feelings...
...but I don't have the power to change him.
But I think you do, Miyazawa. If you tell him it can't go on like this, you can pull him back.
Wow. Awesome lines.
But this volume is pretty intense.
February 28, 2016
Actual Rating : 1 / 5
This was all very confusing. I get that traumas and other mental illnesses can get that way, but I still say that, for such a simple answer as is given to us at the end, it just isn't worth it. Either the author herself lost her meaning in writing this, or she's secretly sadistic and loves making her characters run around in circles. Anyways, it was plenty difficult to get through.
This was all very confusing. I get that traumas and other mental illnesses can get that way, but I still say that, for such a simple answer as is given to us at the end, it just isn't worth it. Either the author herself lost her meaning in writing this, or she's secretly sadistic and loves making her characters run around in circles. Anyways, it was plenty difficult to get through.
July 30, 2010
the library at school?! really! the atypical events keep occuring, but not in reference to the library or the mental breakdown. well, i guess the location is a tad off for "good kids," but the consquences solidify the uniqueness of this series.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
October 29, 2012
Poor, poor Arima. This is turning into a nightmare. I wasn't expecting him to be so . . . broken.
The part that really got me was Act 72.
Oh my gosh . . .
So heartbreaking. And horrifying.
The part that really got me was Act 72.
Oh my gosh . . .
So heartbreaking. And horrifying.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 30, 2007
A love story that revolves around highschool students but remains interesting to span 20+ volumes. The art is unique and comical.
May 1, 2014
#Program BUBU
Pertama kali dibeli dan dibaca pada bulan Desember 2005.
Pertama kali dibeli dan dibaca pada bulan Desember 2005.
November 12, 2011
Arima is forced to deal with his past abuse at the hands of his mother. Meanwhile, Yukino confronts him about the way he has been pretending in front of everyone.
December 20, 2018
Pensé que todo el drama de Soichiro no me iba a gustar, otro la verdad es que está muy buen cobrado y dibujado 😍
June 1, 2021
Storia davvero molto bella.
June 28, 2014
Por lo cliché le daría 3 estrellas nada más, ¡pero le doy una estrella más por Miyazawa!
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