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彼氏彼女の事情 [Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou] #16
Kare Kano: His and Her Circumstances, Vol. 16
After Soichiro threatens Yukino's status as most popular, Yukino tries to regain her idol-like popularity, struggling with her own inner problems while they develop a unique relationship.
192 pages, Paperback
First published July 5, 2003
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About the author
Masami Tsuda
103 books127 followersTsuda (津田雅美) is a tea-loving, crazy manga-ka who lives in Japan. Her most famous work that has been translated into several languages is Kare Kano (or His and Her Circumstances).
Tsuda likes operas, historical sites, and classic children's tales.
Tsuda likes operas, historical sites, and classic children's tales.
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October 3, 2023
This volume really felt like an amazing return-to-form for the series. Enjoyed it greatly.
September 30, 2023
Cómo amo el drama
September 27, 2020
Uhhh, me decepcionó la conclusión de todo.
O sea, está bonito pero no me satisface para nada.
O sea, está bonito pero no me satisface para nada.
January 1, 2020
Come sempre questa manga mi piace molto.
May 20, 2021
Kare Kano is a gut-wrenching and wild ride. If you have only seen the anime, then you are missing a lot of the meat of this story. Kare Kano follows the story of Yukino who strives to be an image of perfection. She’s beautiful, is at the top of her class, and seems naturally good at everything she tries. However, this perfection is a complete facade. Yukino’s home life reveals her to be a messy, rude, narcissist, who is obsessed with being the best. Yukino’s obsessive pursuits seem to be fueled by the praise and admiration she receives from those around her, it becomes clear that she has a crippling fear of failure. Meanwhile, her class rival, Soichiro aims for perfection for entirely different reasons. Soichiro’s perfect life aims to conceal his dark past as he tries to make up for the abuse and trauma he faced as a child. He clearly has an overwhelming fear of loss and rejection.
Throughout the story, these two characters’ lives intertwine as they learn one another’s secrets and help one another work through their problems. Each of them grows as individuals separate from one another, but they also grow as friends and eventually a couple. If you have watched the anime, then your perception of this story is probably that it is a romantic comedy. While you are not necessarily wrong, this manga reaches levels of depth and darkness that the anime definitely does not prepare you for. This story tackles topics like self-harm, suicide, domestic abuse, sexual assault, and unwanted pregnancy, and a whole slew of mental health-related issues. While the manga covers much of these topics with noticeable care and sensitivity, I will say that given that the manga ran from the mid-’90s to the early ’00s, its understanding of some of these issues can feel quite dated at times.
There are elements to this story that I think are actively harmful. Specifically, the great length’s to which Yukino attempts to heal Soichiro’s dark past. This establishes a narrative in which a woman’s strength is defined by her ability to stand by her man no matter what. Unfortunately, that kind of storytelling has real-world consequences no matter how realistic the depiction is in this case. While it is not at the forefront of the story-telling, this manga also perpetuates the idea that girls should pursue older men; that they have more to offer and are simply more suitable partners than more age-appropriate options. This is a sentiment that I absolutely do not agree with, and I believe it to be a harmful trope.
That being said, while this story is quite dark at times it has an undeniable honesty and relevancy to the narrative. In many ways, it feels realistic, even if it is uncomfortable, which is probably why so many manga readers still flock to this series years after its publication. If you liked Fruits Basket or Mars, then I think you would enjoy Kare Kano. I think Fruits Basket does a better job unpacking different kinds of trauma, especially in regards to toxic masculinity. However, for better or worse, Kare Kano never relies on metaphor or fantasy to soften the blow of hard-hitting topics and in that way feels all too real in its delivery.
Throughout the story, these two characters’ lives intertwine as they learn one another’s secrets and help one another work through their problems. Each of them grows as individuals separate from one another, but they also grow as friends and eventually a couple. If you have watched the anime, then your perception of this story is probably that it is a romantic comedy. While you are not necessarily wrong, this manga reaches levels of depth and darkness that the anime definitely does not prepare you for. This story tackles topics like self-harm, suicide, domestic abuse, sexual assault, and unwanted pregnancy, and a whole slew of mental health-related issues. While the manga covers much of these topics with noticeable care and sensitivity, I will say that given that the manga ran from the mid-’90s to the early ’00s, its understanding of some of these issues can feel quite dated at times.
There are elements to this story that I think are actively harmful. Specifically, the great length’s to which Yukino attempts to heal Soichiro’s dark past. This establishes a narrative in which a woman’s strength is defined by her ability to stand by her man no matter what. Unfortunately, that kind of storytelling has real-world consequences no matter how realistic the depiction is in this case. While it is not at the forefront of the story-telling, this manga also perpetuates the idea that girls should pursue older men; that they have more to offer and are simply more suitable partners than more age-appropriate options. This is a sentiment that I absolutely do not agree with, and I believe it to be a harmful trope.
That being said, while this story is quite dark at times it has an undeniable honesty and relevancy to the narrative. In many ways, it feels realistic, even if it is uncomfortable, which is probably why so many manga readers still flock to this series years after its publication. If you liked Fruits Basket or Mars, then I think you would enjoy Kare Kano. I think Fruits Basket does a better job unpacking different kinds of trauma, especially in regards to toxic masculinity. However, for better or worse, Kare Kano never relies on metaphor or fantasy to soften the blow of hard-hitting topics and in that way feels all too real in its delivery.
April 13, 2024
What a beautiful send-off to the Dark!Soichiro / Soichiro's trauma arc. The first chapter was swee with a good explanation of why Soichiro has been acting the way he has with not embracing his family and Miyazawa (which felt off and hard to read in earlier volumes) while also touching on the trauma from abusive parenting and how it can lead one to shelter themselves to others. The ending to Soichiro's trauma / hiding shit arc is extremely touching and sweet. It's handled beautifully and touchingly as Soichiro finally handled his troubles and opens up with those around him. Its so beautifully wholesome and strong catharsis after the almost character destruction of him when he was at his worst / lowest point.
The ending with Miyazawa and Asapin was neat but a bit confusing. I get its saying Miyazawa was this person who he knew would get him out of the darkness but to do so he would wait that out and get to his lowest first and then have that “when you hit Rock bottom it can only go up” with Miyazawa there for him. But how is it that Asapin knows him better and Soichiro knew that and distanced himself from him?
Idk if I've noted it but Tsuda's art has definitely evolved and I'm enjoying when she delves into that ethereal look with the thin almost invisible lines and sparing (but good) use of screentones and greys.
The ending with Miyazawa and Asapin was neat but a bit confusing. I get its saying Miyazawa was this person who he knew would get him out of the darkness but to do so he would wait that out and get to his lowest first and then have that “when you hit Rock bottom it can only go up” with Miyazawa there for him. But how is it that Asapin knows him better and Soichiro knew that and distanced himself from him?
Idk if I've noted it but Tsuda's art has definitely evolved and I'm enjoying when she delves into that ethereal look with the thin almost invisible lines and sparing (but good) use of screentones and greys.
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March 2, 2020
Akhirnya Arima benar-benar membuka hatinya pada Yukino, menceritakan kisah masa lalunya yang kelam. Dan Yukino menerima semuanya dengan penuh kasih, meskipun dia mengaku masih belum bisa memahami Arima sepenuhnya. Hubungan keduanya menjadi lebih erat.
Kemudian, berhubung ibu biologis Arima masih juga mendatangi sekolah untuk menemui Arima, setiap hari teman-teman Arima melakukan berbagai strategi untuk melindungi Arima agar tidak bertemu dia. Bagian ini kocak banget sih. Sampai akhirnya wanita menyebalkan itu mencegat Arima pulang dari les, dan kembali hendak menghajar Arima!
Tak terduga, datang seseorang yang dengan keren melindungi Arima.
"Aku bukan lagi anak berusia 3 tahun. Yang kutakuti bukanlah kau, tapi ingatan masa lalu. Aku tak punya perasaan apa-apa lagi terhadapmu sekarang. Harapanku terhadapmu sebagai orangtua telah lama putus sejak dulu. Aku tak akan membiarkanmu mengacaukan kehidupanku lagi."
--Arima
Well, I'm just gonna say ... you don't have to give birth to a child in order to have a motherly instinct and be a real mother!
Kemudian, berhubung ibu biologis Arima masih juga mendatangi sekolah untuk menemui Arima, setiap hari teman-teman Arima melakukan berbagai strategi untuk melindungi Arima agar tidak bertemu dia. Bagian ini kocak banget sih. Sampai akhirnya wanita menyebalkan itu mencegat Arima pulang dari les, dan kembali hendak menghajar Arima!
Tak terduga, datang seseorang yang dengan keren melindungi Arima.
"Aku bukan lagi anak berusia 3 tahun. Yang kutakuti bukanlah kau, tapi ingatan masa lalu. Aku tak punya perasaan apa-apa lagi terhadapmu sekarang. Harapanku terhadapmu sebagai orangtua telah lama putus sejak dulu. Aku tak akan membiarkanmu mengacaukan kehidupanku lagi."
--Arima
Well, I'm just gonna say ... you don't have to give birth to a child in order to have a motherly instinct and be a real mother!
June 2, 2017
Another good volume.
June 17, 2018
Cute nostalgia!
December 20, 2018
Ayyyy esto huele a final. Y aún queda un montón! Me encanta este manga
December 6, 2019
4,5 stars
April 24, 2020
Se resolvió todo... que vendrá ahora 😟😟😟
May 26, 2020
[7/10]
Chapters 74-78
I'm glad to have a little comedy back.
Chapters 74-78
I'm glad to have a little comedy back.
November 19, 2023
“I had to learn to love…before I could realized how much I am loved.”
I CRIED SO MUCH!!! So much freakin love for Arima in this volume. He deserves it soooo much.
I CRIED SO MUCH!!! So much freakin love for Arima in this volume. He deserves it soooo much.
June 14, 2016
Today's post is on Kare Kano:his and her circumstances volume 16 by Masami Tsuda. It is 192 pages long and is published by Tokyopop. The cover has Yukino on it. As it is the sixteenth in the long running series you need to have read the first fifteen to understand the story. The intended reader is someone who likes high school romance, manga, and Drama! There is no language, no sex, and violence in this book. The story, for this volume, is mostly told from the third person close of Soichiro. There Be Spoilers Ahead.
From the back of the book- Soichiro reveals his painful past to Yukino--the truth behind his unfaltering drive to be perfect. But just when Soichiro thinks he is about to lose everything, Yukino comes through with shining colors, strengthening their bond. It's about time someone protected Soichiro from his birth mother, and Yukino and friends decide to step up to the challenge!
Review- So Soichiro comes clean with everyone in this volume. Yukino does have to push him into a corner to get him to open up to her about but in the end he does. He talks to Yukino, his friends, and most importantly his parents about what happened to him. It is not pretty to read but I think that the abuse is handled very well. I do think that it is romanticized with how the abuse was handled by his family and friends. No victim blaming and everyone believed Soichiro but maybe reading about abuse and seeing the characters react in a more positive way will help teach others how to be accepting. Only five more volume left and more Drama ahead.
I give this volume a Five out of Five stars. I get nothing for my review and I bought this manga with my own money.
From the back of the book- Soichiro reveals his painful past to Yukino--the truth behind his unfaltering drive to be perfect. But just when Soichiro thinks he is about to lose everything, Yukino comes through with shining colors, strengthening their bond. It's about time someone protected Soichiro from his birth mother, and Yukino and friends decide to step up to the challenge!
Review- So Soichiro comes clean with everyone in this volume. Yukino does have to push him into a corner to get him to open up to her about but in the end he does. He talks to Yukino, his friends, and most importantly his parents about what happened to him. It is not pretty to read but I think that the abuse is handled very well. I do think that it is romanticized with how the abuse was handled by his family and friends. No victim blaming and everyone believed Soichiro but maybe reading about abuse and seeing the characters react in a more positive way will help teach others how to be accepting. Only five more volume left and more Drama ahead.
I give this volume a Five out of Five stars. I get nothing for my review and I bought this manga with my own money.
April 2, 2016
Il volume 16 de Le situazioni di lui & lei è probabilmente uno dei migliori.
Protagonista più o meno assoluto è ancora Soichiro. Giorni da sogno, ovvero il primo "atto", come vengono indicate le varie parti che formano un volume, è sicuramente il più bello. Grazie ad esso possiamo essere testimoni dei primi giorni di Arima nella casa dei suoi nuovi genitori.
I disegni del piccolo sono tenerissimi, così come la situazione descritta.
Segue un chiarimento tra il protagonista e Yukino, che rafforza ancor di più il loro legame. Mi piace quando i personaggi di una storia riescono a dialogare e non bisogna affrontare - anche e soprattutto come lettore - fraintendimenti e lungaggini spesso del tutto inutili ai fini della storia.
Bellissima la scena in cui Soichiro abbraccia il se stesso bambino e gli chiede perdono.
Punto debole del volume è la parte centrale, con i vari "stratagemmi" messi in campo dagli amici di Soichiro per evitare a questi un incontro con la madre all'uscita della scuola. L'ho trovata un po' infantile.
La questione della madre biologica sembra per�� a questo punto conclusa, con l'apertura di Soichiro vero i suoi genitori adottivi, oltre che con Yukino e i suoi amici.
La storia si conclude per il momento con delle belle scene che ci mostrano la profondità del personaggio di Asaba, fino ad ora ritratto quasi sempre come un ragazzo simpatico e spensierato, ed un indizio su quello che sarà, a breve, un importantissimo evento nella vita dei protagonisti.
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Protagonista più o meno assoluto è ancora Soichiro. Giorni da sogno, ovvero il primo "atto", come vengono indicate le varie parti che formano un volume, è sicuramente il più bello. Grazie ad esso possiamo essere testimoni dei primi giorni di Arima nella casa dei suoi nuovi genitori.
I disegni del piccolo sono tenerissimi, così come la situazione descritta.
Segue un chiarimento tra il protagonista e Yukino, che rafforza ancor di più il loro legame. Mi piace quando i personaggi di una storia riescono a dialogare e non bisogna affrontare - anche e soprattutto come lettore - fraintendimenti e lungaggini spesso del tutto inutili ai fini della storia.
Bellissima la scena in cui Soichiro abbraccia il se stesso bambino e gli chiede perdono.
Punto debole del volume è la parte centrale, con i vari "stratagemmi" messi in campo dagli amici di Soichiro per evitare a questi un incontro con la madre all'uscita della scuola. L'ho trovata un po' infantile.
La questione della madre biologica sembra per�� a questo punto conclusa, con l'apertura di Soichiro vero i suoi genitori adottivi, oltre che con Yukino e i suoi amici.
La storia si conclude per il momento con delle belle scene che ci mostrano la profondità del personaggio di Asaba, fino ad ora ritratto quasi sempre come un ragazzo simpatico e spensierato, ed un indizio su quello che sarà, a breve, un importantissimo evento nella vita dei protagonisti.
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August 30, 2007
A love story that revolves around highschool students but remains interesting to span 20+ volumes. The art is unique and comical.
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November 12, 2011Was forced to read this one online, as I am missing a copy. Will have to reread before I can actually review.
August 8, 2012
Dang, Arima's mother scares the shit out of me.
February 28, 2016
Actual Rating : 1.7 / 5
Better than the last volume, definitely, but still kind of...well, there's nothing special about it that really distinguishes it for me. Moving on.
Better than the last volume, definitely, but still kind of...well, there's nothing special about it that really distinguishes it for me. Moving on.
May 1, 2014
#Program BUBU
Pertama kali dibeli dan dibaca pada bulan Februari 2006.
Pertama kali dibeli dan dibaca pada bulan Februari 2006.
September 8, 2015
I'm glad everything is getting better. :)
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