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Out of Position #5
Over Time
Football season is over, and in the wake of a tumultuous year, Lee and Dev decide to take this quiet time to think about their relationship. But as their friends and family draw the couple into their own issues, the offseason becomes anything but quiet.
Watching the failures and successes of the relationships close to them gives fox and tiger a lot to think about, but they must decide for themselves whether their love is strong enough to overcome the obstacles in their way—namely, each other.
Watching the failures and successes of the relationships close to them gives fox and tiger a lot to think about, but they must decide for themselves whether their love is strong enough to overcome the obstacles in their way—namely, each other.
392 pages, Paperback
First published January 14, 2016
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Kyell Gold
66 books633 followersHi there! I am a writer of gay furry fiction--but you probably know that if you've seen my book listing here. I live in California with my husband Kit, and when I'm not writing, we like to go out to eat and watch movies. We travel a lot, too, mostly around the West Coast, but occasionally to the midwest and east.
I blog at http://www.kyellgold.com/wpblog about upcoming travel plans, upcoming books and news, general writing principles, gay rights, and whatever else seems interesting. And I co-host a podcast, called "Unsheathed," where we talk about the craft of writing and the furry fandom, sometimes at the same time.
If you have a question about any of the books, check the FAQ on my website and then ask away! :)
I blog at http://www.kyellgold.com/wpblog about upcoming travel plans, upcoming books and news, general writing principles, gay rights, and whatever else seems interesting. And I co-host a podcast, called "Unsheathed," where we talk about the craft of writing and the furry fandom, sometimes at the same time.
If you have a question about any of the books, check the FAQ on my website and then ask away! :)
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April 7, 2021
For anyone who follows my reviews, they might know that I am always begging for a story in the M/M genre that can get football right. I've found baseball teams playing in the Super Bowl, star quarterbacks at Division 1-A school worrying about tuition bills, and other such things that could be corrected by a beta reader who knows football or even a bit of googling. I started reading the Out of Position books because it was a recommended book that actually got football right. I was thrilled to flip to the first page and see an explanation that made sense! I couldn't believe I found it in an animorph (sorry if I have the wrong term) type of universe that I normally would not have picked up.
That is why I started reading series, the characters keep me coming back for each new book. Lee and Dev have come so very far in their relationship and personal lives. We started with a cross dressing pick up in a bar three years ago. We have been through graduation, living apart, coming out, growing apart, being selfish, and now our boys have finally grown up.
I have to say Dev had me worried for a while in the two pervious books. He seemed lost and instead of talking to Lee he concentrated on football and fought off everything else. In this book the shine begins to come off being a professional football player, and Dev learns that his idols have feet of clay. It takes some major events for him to realize what is important. Dev has matured and learned that football is now . While it will lead him to great things, he will need to nurture the important people and things in his life for what comes after.
Lee has found himself again. For all his self assured bravado of book 1, Lee was not living his own life for the longest time. He hid this light under a bushel to make Dev happy. He toned down and went back in the closet for his job. He held his tongue and kept things to himself. Lee was meant to challenge those around him. This caused a lot of self doubt and unhappiness. I was so happy to see Lee head up to his job interview and saying "This is who I am and I'm not hiding anymore." Lee insisted he and Dev take the time to get to know each other as the adults they have become.
We started with two stupid college kids and after a great journey we have fully realized and well adjusted adults...who actually know football.
That is why I started reading series, the characters keep me coming back for each new book. Lee and Dev have come so very far in their relationship and personal lives. We started with a cross dressing pick up in a bar three years ago. We have been through graduation, living apart, coming out, growing apart, being selfish, and now our boys have finally grown up.
I have to say Dev had me worried for a while in the two pervious books. He seemed lost and instead of talking to Lee he concentrated on football and fought off everything else. In this book the shine begins to come off being a professional football player, and Dev learns that his idols have feet of clay. It takes some major events for him to realize what is important. Dev has matured and learned that football is now . While it will lead him to great things, he will need to nurture the important people and things in his life for what comes after.
Lee has found himself again. For all his self assured bravado of book 1, Lee was not living his own life for the longest time. He hid this light under a bushel to make Dev happy. He toned down and went back in the closet for his job. He held his tongue and kept things to himself. Lee was meant to challenge those around him. This caused a lot of self doubt and unhappiness. I was so happy to see Lee head up to his job interview and saying "This is who I am and I'm not hiding anymore." Lee insisted he and Dev take the time to get to know each other as the adults they have become.
We started with two stupid college kids and after a great journey we have fully realized and well adjusted adults...who actually know football.
December 1, 2016
I knew this was the last book of the series of 5. It was kind of sad to let it go, yet their relationship was hanging in the balance. Kyell goes to the heart of two guys trying to make things work especially when they come from different backgrounds and have strong differences on how they "tick". There is the implication of a HEA, but all thru there has also been this feeling of HFN.
Kyell Gold is just a great writer and I truly loved this series.
Oh and I feel remiss in that I should have been praising the illustrator Kenket. All thru the series he as shown huge talent. Great work!
Kyell Gold is just a great writer and I truly loved this series.
Oh and I feel remiss in that I should have been praising the illustrator Kenket. All thru the series he as shown huge talent. Great work!
January 25, 2022
I'm HOPING I'll have to change the shelve I put this book it, in regards to it being the last of its series... that is one shelf I will be MORE then happy to change, cause I SO DO NOT want it to be over.
Lee and Dev are just the best, cutest couple I've ever had the pleasure of reading. I just want them to become a reality TV show so I can watch and live with them ever day.
The conflicts and drama in their life is interesting and could be the bases of so many more stories... so I do hope its not the end.
What I love the most about this book is the changes in both character... I loved reading how much they grew... and I hate books in the first person, but for this book it wouldn't have been told well if it wasn't in the first person, you got to really get into the heads of both characters.
I love how you also got to read how a REAL relationship is developed. It wasn't just a I love you so all is happy in the world. Dev and Lee,( well mostly because of Lee), really analyzed and thought about where they wanted their relationship to go... and that was like the best part of the book... they got to see the good and bad side of a relationship through their family and friends... and they talked... I LOVE how they talked... they talked about everything, well it wasn't easy discussions, and lot of misunderstanding, hard truths, changes and growth came out of the talking but that's how a real relationship develops.. and of course in the end, since it was a romance was happy... it was a YEA, and DAMN. I still do not want this to be the end for this couple.
There is still a lot of developing that can be told for this couple... and family drama that was unresolved... and friends with secrets that need to come out so I do hope there is more story.
Lee and Dev are just the best, cutest couple I've ever had the pleasure of reading. I just want them to become a reality TV show so I can watch and live with them ever day.
The conflicts and drama in their life is interesting and could be the bases of so many more stories... so I do hope its not the end.
What I love the most about this book is the changes in both character... I loved reading how much they grew... and I hate books in the first person, but for this book it wouldn't have been told well if it wasn't in the first person, you got to really get into the heads of both characters.
I love how you also got to read how a REAL relationship is developed. It wasn't just a I love you so all is happy in the world. Dev and Lee,( well mostly because of Lee), really analyzed and thought about where they wanted their relationship to go... and that was like the best part of the book... they got to see the good and bad side of a relationship through their family and friends... and they talked... I LOVE how they talked... they talked about everything, well it wasn't easy discussions, and lot of misunderstanding, hard truths, changes and growth came out of the talking but that's how a real relationship develops.. and of course in the end, since it was a romance was happy... it was a YEA, and DAMN. I still do not want this to be the end for this couple.
There is still a lot of developing that can be told for this couple... and family drama that was unresolved... and friends with secrets that need to come out so I do hope there is more story.
August 6, 2016
The final novel in the Out of Position series is outward facing: Dev and Lee agree to take a month to decide if they want to stay a couple or just try to be friends. This is used as a lens to explore their relationships with their families, and the relationship issues of other characters in their life. It switches gears a lot in order to cover all that ground, but in a way I found compelling. Even though there is no football in this volume there is still plenty of excitement.
Since Isolation Play (volume 2), I had a fondness for the character of Dev's father, Mikhail. After seeing him again in this final volume, I claim with no hesitance that he is my favourite minor character in the series.
Thank you Kyell for sharing this journey with us!
Since Isolation Play (volume 2), I had a fondness for the character of Dev's father, Mikhail. After seeing him again in this final volume, I claim with no hesitance that he is my favourite minor character in the series.
Thank you Kyell for sharing this journey with us!
November 3, 2017
Excellent series. Sorry to say goodbye to Dev and Lee.
I love this series. When first reading this series, I was a bit skeptical about a pair of gay anthropomorphic furry characters, but Kyell Gold's writing is so superb that before I knew it I was hooked on these two. Devlin the football playing tiger and Wiley (Lee) the gay activist sports recruitment scout are so interesting to read. The world that the author has built touches on so many different themes and human interest problems that are very relatable in todays world. By the time I was 1/2 into the first novel, Out of Position, it was beginning to seem like the most normal thing in the world, romance....football....talking animals.
In this last of the series Dev and Lee are struggling to find their way in a relationship that has had some pretty rocky moments, and trying to figure out if their love is a forever kind of thing. This angst was just right amid all the family and friend crisis and drauma surrounding them constantly. In the end they discovered that they were perfect for each other and I was so sad to say goodbye to them. I hope that Mr Gold will revisit this couple again in the future. Love this entire series.
I read all the books first and then listed to the audio version via audible.com.
Narrator. While I absolutely love Jeremy Sewell's crisp clear voice,( he has a beautiful reading voice) he is not my favorite narrator by far. These books all switch chapters with Dev and Lee being the 1st person in alternating chapters. Mr Sewell does not distinguish between character voices AT ALL. Meaning that it was very hard at times to tell which character was speaking. Its very ...throw you out of the story ....distracting.. He basically just reads the book out loud. For me, he has a nice voice, but not ideal as a narrator.
I love this series. When first reading this series, I was a bit skeptical about a pair of gay anthropomorphic furry characters, but Kyell Gold's writing is so superb that before I knew it I was hooked on these two. Devlin the football playing tiger and Wiley (Lee) the gay activist sports recruitment scout are so interesting to read. The world that the author has built touches on so many different themes and human interest problems that are very relatable in todays world. By the time I was 1/2 into the first novel, Out of Position, it was beginning to seem like the most normal thing in the world, romance....football....talking animals.
In this last of the series Dev and Lee are struggling to find their way in a relationship that has had some pretty rocky moments, and trying to figure out if their love is a forever kind of thing. This angst was just right amid all the family and friend crisis and drauma surrounding them constantly. In the end they discovered that they were perfect for each other and I was so sad to say goodbye to them. I hope that Mr Gold will revisit this couple again in the future. Love this entire series.
I read all the books first and then listed to the audio version via audible.com.
Narrator. While I absolutely love Jeremy Sewell's crisp clear voice,( he has a beautiful reading voice) he is not my favorite narrator by far. These books all switch chapters with Dev and Lee being the 1st person in alternating chapters. Mr Sewell does not distinguish between character voices AT ALL. Meaning that it was very hard at times to tell which character was speaking. Its very ...throw you out of the story ....distracting.. He basically just reads the book out loud. For me, he has a nice voice, but not ideal as a narrator.
August 15, 2023
I’m recovering from a broken leg and wanted a read that’s light, sweet and a decent length, so I bought the final instalment of Kyell Gold’s ‘Out of Position’ series, which I’d been saving for just the right occasion.
The sports star tiger and his fox boyfriend have been together three years at this point, and it’s time for them to think seriously about whether they have a future together as a couple. There’s a lot of back and forth thinking on this matter from both characters - to the point where you sometimes want to give them a good shake and ask them if they don’t realise how lucky they are to have each other - as well as shakeups among their family, friends and teammates to deal with. (One character even asks the protagonist if they’re actually living in a soap opera, which was delightfully meta.)
I still struggled with the football terms, despite the handy guide at the start of each book, and I often get the members of Dev’s team confused. But, like all the other fans of the series, I can’t get enough of the fox/tiger snuggles.
The sports star tiger and his fox boyfriend have been together three years at this point, and it’s time for them to think seriously about whether they have a future together as a couple. There’s a lot of back and forth thinking on this matter from both characters - to the point where you sometimes want to give them a good shake and ask them if they don’t realise how lucky they are to have each other - as well as shakeups among their family, friends and teammates to deal with. (One character even asks the protagonist if they’re actually living in a soap opera, which was delightfully meta.)
I still struggled with the football terms, despite the handy guide at the start of each book, and I often get the members of Dev’s team confused. But, like all the other fans of the series, I can’t get enough of the fox/tiger snuggles.
August 27, 2023
We are in the fifth book of Dev & Lee's complicated lives. Football season is over for Dev and even though his team lost in the Championship game, things are looking up for him. Another gay player has come out and now there is less pressure on him. Dev's short fight with Lee is over and they are together again. But even if their relationship is going great, there are issues cropping up around them.
Dev's homophobic brother is creating problems, Fisher's medical issues are at a crucial point and Gerrard's family is in turmoil. We also see few of his friends and their troubles too.
Amongst all this, Dev and Lee remain strong and steady. And that's heartwarming. This series is so wonderful and this couple has become one of my favourites.
Moving on to the next book now.
Dev's homophobic brother is creating problems, Fisher's medical issues are at a crucial point and Gerrard's family is in turmoil. We also see few of his friends and their troubles too.
Amongst all this, Dev and Lee remain strong and steady. And that's heartwarming. This series is so wonderful and this couple has become one of my favourites.
Moving on to the next book now.
December 26, 2020
It's great to finish this old freind and watch two of my favorite heroes grow and deal with many real life issues along with their families and together, while growing and developing themselves. I'm going to miss them but I'll be visiting again soon. The first couple of books are among my favorites after all!
December 4, 2021
Good semi-ending
Although the main story has been resolved to a HEA. There is still enough emotional roller coaster situations and feelings that made it seem more relatable. Overall I give this series a 4.75! Hi love Dev and Lee, their relationship seemed so realistic and very compelling.
Although the main story has been resolved to a HEA. There is still enough emotional roller coaster situations and feelings that made it seem more relatable. Overall I give this series a 4.75! Hi love Dev and Lee, their relationship seemed so realistic and very compelling.
December 22, 2023
Kyell Gold can do no wrong. As a gay man, I find his stories and characters extremely relatable. The entire Out of Position series is fantastically entertaining, and I will happily come back to it again and again.
January 1, 2018
Even if the 5 book is the last book in the series, I don't feel like it's finished. The way how Kyell Gold wrote the story plot true the whole 5 book is very unsatisfying.
April 3, 2018
I really enjoyed it
July 24, 2020
I couldn't reach the end. I got burnt out. This one felt too samey to me and felt like it was using one character for conflict way too much.
May 15, 2023
Super cute/hot. Can’t wait to read the next one. All of his books blend together like a season of a tv show. Art is awesome can’t wait to read his other series as well
December 2, 2025
great series. so well written
Read all 5 books and I’m a little sad that the series is done. Now I’ve got to find the rest of Kyell’s stories
Read all 5 books and I’m a little sad that the series is done. Now I’ve got to find the rest of Kyell’s stories
March 8, 2018
Touching, inspiring and truly encouraging! A thrilling " happy end" to this most amazing love story. Couldn't have asked for more.
July 4, 2020
The fifth entry of Kyell Gold’s Out of Position, or Dev and Lee, series, opens with a bit of an off-putting dedication, followed by the protagonists’ explanation of football from an animalian perspective. As with its precursors, this entry shows where the cities serving as the book’s various settings would be in the real-life United States, although references to things throughout the story such as Harry Potter somewhat spoil the fictional anthropomorphic milieu. Preceding the main text is a short story about a trucker who wants to “bag” Devlin Miski, which doesn’t have much relevance to the central storyline.
Like its predecessors, the book alternates between the perspectives of the tiger Dev and the fox Lee, the two starting off with make-up fornication, the former indicating troubles with his somewhat-bigoted brother Gregory, who, like Lee’s mother, hooked up with the religious group Families United and espouses their rhetoric on occasion, this setup playing a part in later events in the story. Dev’s fellow tiger and footballer Fisher continues to experience the consequences of his concussion, with a suicide attempt in the latter portion leaving him mute and necessitating he communicate through writing.
A marriage proposal on Lee’s part ends the storyline, along with the author espousing his dogma regarding the United States Supreme Court’s decision on same-sex marriage, which very much mars the escapist nature of the plot and the furry fandom in general. That Dev and Lee have pretty much done things those wishing to marry are supposed to look forward to, such as living together and intercourse, somewhat spoils the point of them marrying in the first place, and they demonstrate a fair bit of sexual irresponsibility, such as not using protection or getting tested. Non-heterosexual furries are likely to get the most out of this story, but its audience is niche at best.
Like its predecessors, the book alternates between the perspectives of the tiger Dev and the fox Lee, the two starting off with make-up fornication, the former indicating troubles with his somewhat-bigoted brother Gregory, who, like Lee’s mother, hooked up with the religious group Families United and espouses their rhetoric on occasion, this setup playing a part in later events in the story. Dev’s fellow tiger and footballer Fisher continues to experience the consequences of his concussion, with a suicide attempt in the latter portion leaving him mute and necessitating he communicate through writing.
A marriage proposal on Lee’s part ends the storyline, along with the author espousing his dogma regarding the United States Supreme Court’s decision on same-sex marriage, which very much mars the escapist nature of the plot and the furry fandom in general. That Dev and Lee have pretty much done things those wishing to marry are supposed to look forward to, such as living together and intercourse, somewhat spoils the point of them marrying in the first place, and they demonstrate a fair bit of sexual irresponsibility, such as not using protection or getting tested. Non-heterosexual furries are likely to get the most out of this story, but its audience is niche at best.
August 21, 2019
The aren't sufficient words to describe the OOP series. It has brough an entire different look at the world with its many thought-provoking envoys and perfect furry universe. Praise for Kyell Gold for this!
April 13, 2016
Amazing..... Please write more about both of them :)
April 4, 2016
It's over! I'm all verklempt.
December 17, 2016
It's a good final with good a own plot.
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