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Ídolos de Perversidad. La imagen de la mujer en la cultura de fin de siglo
Dijkstra realiza un estudio extremadamente detallado y minucioso de la forma en que el arte degradó la imagen de la mujer a lo largo del siglo XIX, en paralelo a la forma en que la intelectualidad europea entronizaba al varón anglosajón como la medida de todo lo bueno y lo sublime. Un lastre que hoy, a un siglo de distancia, seguimos arrastrando
452 pages, Hardcover
First published January 1, 1986
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Bram Dijkstra
18 books19 followersBram Dijkstra is a professor of English literature. He joined the faculty of the University of California, San Diego in 1966, and taught there until he retired and became an emeritus in 2000.
He is the author of seven books on literary and artistic subjects. These include:
Cubism, Stieglitz and the Early Poetry of William Carlos Williams (1969);
Georgia O'Keeffe and the Eros of Place (1998);
Expressionism in America (2001),
but he is probably best known for two books that have escaped the academic world into the world of popular culture:
Idols of Perversity: Fantasies of Feminine Evil in Fin-de-siècle Culture (1986); and
Evil Sisters: The Threat of Female Sexuality and the Cult of Manhood (1996):
books which discuss vamp imagery, femmes fatales, and similar threatening images of female sexuality in a number of works of literature and art. In comedian Steve Martin's short novel Shopgirl, Martin's heroine claims that Idols of Perversity is her favourite book.
He is the author of seven books on literary and artistic subjects. These include:
Cubism, Stieglitz and the Early Poetry of William Carlos Williams (1969);
Georgia O'Keeffe and the Eros of Place (1998);
Expressionism in America (2001),
but he is probably best known for two books that have escaped the academic world into the world of popular culture:
Idols of Perversity: Fantasies of Feminine Evil in Fin-de-siècle Culture (1986); and
Evil Sisters: The Threat of Female Sexuality and the Cult of Manhood (1996):
books which discuss vamp imagery, femmes fatales, and similar threatening images of female sexuality in a number of works of literature and art. In comedian Steve Martin's short novel Shopgirl, Martin's heroine claims that Idols of Perversity is her favourite book.
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January 15, 2013
Did you know that in 1896 an anorexic actress made a small fortune posing nude for portraits which were called “The Dead Lady Look” because tuberculosis (consumption in common parlance) was considered a glamorous way to die?
One of the most mind-blowing treatises on women in society and culture I have ever read. Picked this one up when I was researching my fin de siècle book, The Gilded Age (originally titled The Golden Age). You will never again look at our society’s depiction of women in the media without considering the subtext of male-dominated society. Dijkstra draws upon the particularly virulent attack on women of the fin de siècle period I was studying, but the resonances of his analyses are everywhere around us today. It’s all about money and power, who has it and who doesn’t, and how that affects your life, your freedom, and your liberty.
This is scholarly—citations, an extensive bibliography, quotations, and best of all the art. Beautifully and engagingly written, with astute analysis of how money, power, and the striving for personal freedom affected relations between men and women (and gay people).
Partial chapter titles include such gems as “Raptures of Submission and the Cult of the Household Nun,” “The Nymph with the Broken Back and the Mythology of Therapeutic Rape,” “Women of Moonlight and Wax, the Lesbian Glass,” “Gold and the Virgin Whores of Babylon, the Priestesses of Man’s Severed Head,” “Clinging Vines and the Dangers of Degeneration.” A Must Read.
One of the most mind-blowing treatises on women in society and culture I have ever read. Picked this one up when I was researching my fin de siècle book, The Gilded Age (originally titled The Golden Age). You will never again look at our society’s depiction of women in the media without considering the subtext of male-dominated society. Dijkstra draws upon the particularly virulent attack on women of the fin de siècle period I was studying, but the resonances of his analyses are everywhere around us today. It’s all about money and power, who has it and who doesn’t, and how that affects your life, your freedom, and your liberty.
This is scholarly—citations, an extensive bibliography, quotations, and best of all the art. Beautifully and engagingly written, with astute analysis of how money, power, and the striving for personal freedom affected relations between men and women (and gay people).
Partial chapter titles include such gems as “Raptures of Submission and the Cult of the Household Nun,” “The Nymph with the Broken Back and the Mythology of Therapeutic Rape,” “Women of Moonlight and Wax, the Lesbian Glass,” “Gold and the Virgin Whores of Babylon, the Priestesses of Man’s Severed Head,” “Clinging Vines and the Dangers of Degeneration.” A Must Read.
September 30, 2011
A survey of misogyny in late-Victorian art. Extremely creepy. The evidence may be a bit wobbly in places, but the sheer number of appalling examples is extremely telling. One of those important, eye-opening books worth reading, but ugh.
June 29, 2010
An interesting study, although Dijkstra commits the all-too-common scholarly sin of ignoring masses of evidence that don't fit his thesis. He also erroneously treats this instantiation as unique, rather than as part of a recurring pattern of shifting attitudes toward women.
May 25, 2020
There is a certain type of historian who loves to demonize the past. Dijkstra is one of them. He also suffers from the delusion that right now, this moment in history, is the apogee of all human endeavor and every other era suffers by comparison. I think these people represent a very specific type of narcissist who seem to believe that their personal presence improves the world to the point of perfection never before achieved in any other era.
This book is full of the type of academic bullshit produced by a human being whose relative worth is equal to nipples on a boar hog; trying to convince useful people that the writer's existence is justified. Well, I suppose that's true; shitty books full of misinterpreted social history won't write themselves.
My advice is to avoid the text, the illustrations alone are worthy of a five star review; unfortunately it was the information that dragged the overall rating down to one star. Hey Bram, make yourself useful and go rotate my tires, will ya?
This book is full of the type of academic bullshit produced by a human being whose relative worth is equal to nipples on a boar hog; trying to convince useful people that the writer's existence is justified. Well, I suppose that's true; shitty books full of misinterpreted social history won't write themselves.
My advice is to avoid the text, the illustrations alone are worthy of a five star review; unfortunately it was the information that dragged the overall rating down to one star. Hey Bram, make yourself useful and go rotate my tires, will ya?
May 8, 2019
What is that book your reading?
It’s about art history.
Is it a college textbook?
Well, I think it might be the author is a college professor.
Why are you reading it?
Good question
Not a simple answer but the best I can say is I like Art History.
Dr. Bram Dijkstra is very observant and speaks about cultural misogyny in a way that I can understand but it takes a good deal of my gray matter working overtime to get through his very thick analysis of the various aspects of this movement as it is demonstrated in the Art, and literature of the Victorian era.
Really that’s your answer? Well yes, in short but there are other parts that I find interesting as well, the language while it doesn’t really flow off the tongue I find it at times witty and at times funny and at times just rather thought provoking.
For example in the chapter about the Nymph with the broken back he talks about the ‘self-directed arboreal ecstasies of the dryads’ Basically at the time a lot of artists like to paint pictures of nude women in trees.
Or when speaking about the economic conditions of the time and it’s impact on the male mindset he has this observation. This Hobbesian jungle ,…led to crucial adjustments to the middle class’s sense of cultural and moral motivation in what had been perceived,..as a world of necessary mutual depredation. (I just love that phrase necessary mutual depredation).
And this I found just very funny.
‘Physicians explained to horrified husbands that as blood drained from their wives brains to rush to their excited reproductive organs, their minds as well as their bodies weakened, and the soul and body alike would trail off into a sleep induced by erotic self-stimulation.’
(So because women were finger-banging themselves so much they didn’t have enough blood in their brains to stay awake? Sounds more like a teenage boy problem to me).
There are also the words my vocabulary has increased with all the new and odd words found in this text. Things like satiety, abeyance, maudlin, and protean to name just a few.
And I also wanted to mention this I thought of this as I read the description of the often used theme of women staring at themselves in a round mirror or a pool of water.
‘Yet as long as woman existed apart from man, she existed as Woman, the great undifferentiated, static expression of primal being. Thus, her womanhood was a source of continual fascination to her. To see herself was her only hold on reality: If she was the mirror of nature, then water, the natural mirror, was the source of her impersonal, self-contained self-identity. To prevent loss of self she had to reassure herself continually of her existence by looking in that natural mirror-the source of her being, as it were, the water from which, like Venus, she had come and to which , like Ophelia, she was destined to return,
Which caused me to remember this.
((One of the heresaiarchs of Uqbar had stated that mirrors and copulation are abominations, since they both multiply the number of man.))
Ficciones by Jorge Luis Borges (Haha brain is overheating and cracking jokes all at the same time)
So in conclusion three final observations
1) This took a real long time to read deep thoughts and dense language at least I understood all the art references but not a light read by any means.
2) Near the very end of the book the author finally got around to explaining the Cover of the book Ella Ferris Pell ‘Salome’ 1890
Good story nice counterpoint.
3) The final concluding argument that ‘these fantasies of gynecide thus opened the door to the realities of genocide in the twentieth century yes and no, I don’t feel the author tied his numerous examples together in a way that clearly made that point. So I’ll try to explain it in my way of thinking. The Fin-De-Siecle cultural period was for the American experience like our Tween years, early middle-school time were assholes in a collective sense and all this cultural mien grafted onto our impressionable psychics like stink on shit. So we grew up as a nation mentally warped, hey can’t help it our great-great-grandparents were perverts and racists, and had weird eugenic ideals. So this art is our collective Id or as my wife calls it “The Bitch in the Basement” who is now fully grown in fact getting a bit old and still is driven by the fantasies of their youth in the case of males, or the cultural restrictions and moral suasions of sex and worthiness and value in the case of females, and all of this is observable in the art. This book is about the art at the time when western societies made a detour into the realm of darkness.
It’s about art history.
Is it a college textbook?
Well, I think it might be the author is a college professor.
Why are you reading it?
Good question
Not a simple answer but the best I can say is I like Art History.
Dr. Bram Dijkstra is very observant and speaks about cultural misogyny in a way that I can understand but it takes a good deal of my gray matter working overtime to get through his very thick analysis of the various aspects of this movement as it is demonstrated in the Art, and literature of the Victorian era.
Really that’s your answer? Well yes, in short but there are other parts that I find interesting as well, the language while it doesn’t really flow off the tongue I find it at times witty and at times funny and at times just rather thought provoking.
For example in the chapter about the Nymph with the broken back he talks about the ‘self-directed arboreal ecstasies of the dryads’ Basically at the time a lot of artists like to paint pictures of nude women in trees.
Or when speaking about the economic conditions of the time and it’s impact on the male mindset he has this observation. This Hobbesian jungle ,…led to crucial adjustments to the middle class’s sense of cultural and moral motivation in what had been perceived,..as a world of necessary mutual depredation. (I just love that phrase necessary mutual depredation).
And this I found just very funny.
‘Physicians explained to horrified husbands that as blood drained from their wives brains to rush to their excited reproductive organs, their minds as well as their bodies weakened, and the soul and body alike would trail off into a sleep induced by erotic self-stimulation.’
(So because women were finger-banging themselves so much they didn’t have enough blood in their brains to stay awake? Sounds more like a teenage boy problem to me).
There are also the words my vocabulary has increased with all the new and odd words found in this text. Things like satiety, abeyance, maudlin, and protean to name just a few.
And I also wanted to mention this I thought of this as I read the description of the often used theme of women staring at themselves in a round mirror or a pool of water.
‘Yet as long as woman existed apart from man, she existed as Woman, the great undifferentiated, static expression of primal being. Thus, her womanhood was a source of continual fascination to her. To see herself was her only hold on reality: If she was the mirror of nature, then water, the natural mirror, was the source of her impersonal, self-contained self-identity. To prevent loss of self she had to reassure herself continually of her existence by looking in that natural mirror-the source of her being, as it were, the water from which, like Venus, she had come and to which , like Ophelia, she was destined to return,
Which caused me to remember this.
((One of the heresaiarchs of Uqbar had stated that mirrors and copulation are abominations, since they both multiply the number of man.))
Ficciones by Jorge Luis Borges (Haha brain is overheating and cracking jokes all at the same time)
So in conclusion three final observations
1) This took a real long time to read deep thoughts and dense language at least I understood all the art references but not a light read by any means.
2) Near the very end of the book the author finally got around to explaining the Cover of the book Ella Ferris Pell ‘Salome’ 1890
Good story nice counterpoint.
3) The final concluding argument that ‘these fantasies of gynecide thus opened the door to the realities of genocide in the twentieth century yes and no, I don’t feel the author tied his numerous examples together in a way that clearly made that point. So I’ll try to explain it in my way of thinking. The Fin-De-Siecle cultural period was for the American experience like our Tween years, early middle-school time were assholes in a collective sense and all this cultural mien grafted onto our impressionable psychics like stink on shit. So we grew up as a nation mentally warped, hey can’t help it our great-great-grandparents were perverts and racists, and had weird eugenic ideals. So this art is our collective Id or as my wife calls it “The Bitch in the Basement” who is now fully grown in fact getting a bit old and still is driven by the fantasies of their youth in the case of males, or the cultural restrictions and moral suasions of sex and worthiness and value in the case of females, and all of this is observable in the art. This book is about the art at the time when western societies made a detour into the realm of darkness.
November 25, 2013
Buy this book only for the beautiful pictures. This man doesn't know what he's talking about and pretends to be a feminist. Well, I as a woman am insulted by what he says about some of my favorite artists ever.
I think I read this book about 25 years ago. My opinion still stands. If you like this book I will hunt you down and hit you with a wet noodle.
I think I read this book about 25 years ago. My opinion still stands. If you like this book I will hunt you down and hit you with a wet noodle.
October 10, 2015
The chief merit of this book is that it collects hundreds of obscure fantasy paintings from the latter half of the nineteenth century. Academic artists here rub shoulders with Symbolists, Pre-Raphaelites, and Art Nouveau figures. Some of the artists like Klimt and Moreau will be familiar, but for every artist you've heard of you'll meet five you won't recognize.
Unfortunately, the author is only interested in passing moral judgments on the subject matter of these paintings, so all of the illustrations are black and white.
The author's dour and sour commentary on these forgotten masterpieces is ironically effective and adds piquancy to the pictures. It seems that the author's chief interest in these fascinating images is to judge them and find them wanting under an extremely narrow standard of feminist piety. Like Max Nordau's Degeneration from a century earlier, Dijkstra's moralistic commentary mostly serves to whet your interest and make the pictures that much more devilishly fascinating.
Taken as a whole, the commentary gets quite monotonous and is floridly overstated. Images of a gaggle of nude children in the water become precursors to the Holocaust:
This isn't a book for reading; it's a book for looking at the pictures.
Unfortunately, the author is only interested in passing moral judgments on the subject matter of these paintings, so all of the illustrations are black and white.
The author's dour and sour commentary on these forgotten masterpieces is ironically effective and adds piquancy to the pictures. It seems that the author's chief interest in these fascinating images is to judge them and find them wanting under an extremely narrow standard of feminist piety. Like Max Nordau's Degeneration from a century earlier, Dijkstra's moralistic commentary mostly serves to whet your interest and make the pictures that much more devilishly fascinating.
Taken as a whole, the commentary gets quite monotonous and is floridly overstated. Images of a gaggle of nude children in the water become precursors to the Holocaust:
How nightmarish painters' dreams of infantile flesh could ultimately become is graphically demonstrated in Leon Frederic's monumental triptych 'The Stream', in which this artist, ostensibly to illustrate Beethoven's 'Pastoral' symphony, created with insane literalness the ultimate representation of the familiar equation between water, women, and the world of the child in a carnal orgy of infant flesh. When images of this sort, of this extreme paranoia, arise in man's imagination, can Buchenwald be far behind?It's mostly more of the same throughout the book. Just a few paragraphs are enough to give you an accurate impression of the whole. In the company of an interesting picture, though, Dijkstra's text adds some value and often rises to the heights of low comedy.
This isn't a book for reading; it's a book for looking at the pictures.
August 17, 2014
This book is insane. If you see it in a discount bin, totally pick it up and attempt to read it.
From what I can gather, various intellectual circles at the 19th century in continental Europe didn't care too much for women and used theories from the early eugenics movement to justify for their misogyny. Then they made a lot of art, some of now surprisingly popular classic art. Bram Dijkstra collected this art and put it in a book with the widest margins I have ever seen. He has a lot of theories, some of them relatively sane but some occasionally crazy, as to why the artists drew women the way that they did. There are tons of pictures of named women lying around in fields, sleeping in a pile of leaves, which if you are a woman will drive you mad because none of us would ever do that - there are things called bugs and other things not to expose yourself to no more comfortable that flowerbed looks. Apparently it all ties into the prevailing theories of the day, which was that women were lazy, terrible and basically the opposite of guys. The writings of these artists contributed to the eugenics movement that eventually led to Nazi Germany, so that's interesting to think about.
My recommendation is to skim a lot of it, especially of the author's talking about intellectuals from, say, France from 1890-95 that you've never heard of and have no way of finding out more about. But he does have interesting things to say about the art, much of which is fascinating and beautiful.
Also if you live in a household with modestly standards, don't leave the book around because 90% of the paintings are sleeping naked women. They're not showing a whole lot, but they are naked.
From what I can gather, various intellectual circles at the 19th century in continental Europe didn't care too much for women and used theories from the early eugenics movement to justify for their misogyny. Then they made a lot of art, some of now surprisingly popular classic art. Bram Dijkstra collected this art and put it in a book with the widest margins I have ever seen. He has a lot of theories, some of them relatively sane but some occasionally crazy, as to why the artists drew women the way that they did. There are tons of pictures of named women lying around in fields, sleeping in a pile of leaves, which if you are a woman will drive you mad because none of us would ever do that - there are things called bugs and other things not to expose yourself to no more comfortable that flowerbed looks. Apparently it all ties into the prevailing theories of the day, which was that women were lazy, terrible and basically the opposite of guys. The writings of these artists contributed to the eugenics movement that eventually led to Nazi Germany, so that's interesting to think about.
My recommendation is to skim a lot of it, especially of the author's talking about intellectuals from, say, France from 1890-95 that you've never heard of and have no way of finding out more about. But he does have interesting things to say about the art, much of which is fascinating and beautiful.
Also if you live in a household with modestly standards, don't leave the book around because 90% of the paintings are sleeping naked women. They're not showing a whole lot, but they are naked.
November 18, 2018
The three star rating is an average; 5 stars for the illustrations, 1 star for the text.
Bram Dijkstra man-splained this historic and artistic era to me, so now I understand how oppressed women really were. Poor little old me, walking around with this bothersome uterus that prevents me from learning and perceiving on my own. Thanks Bram!
)))))))an aside to the readers of this review; I'm whispering so the author can't hear me: #what a clueless dipshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to go read a shit-ton of positive Pre Raphaelite books now. I'm going to like what I like, for the reasons I like it; regardless of the opinions of the author. This guy should stop spending so much time being concerned with social justice and do something useful with his time.
Hey Bram, get out there and rotate my tires, would ya?
Bram Dijkstra man-splained this historic and artistic era to me, so now I understand how oppressed women really were. Poor little old me, walking around with this bothersome uterus that prevents me from learning and perceiving on my own. Thanks Bram!
)))))))an aside to the readers of this review; I'm whispering so the author can't hear me: #what a clueless dipshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to go read a shit-ton of positive Pre Raphaelite books now. I'm going to like what I like, for the reasons I like it; regardless of the opinions of the author. This guy should stop spending so much time being concerned with social justice and do something useful with his time.
Hey Bram, get out there and rotate my tires, would ya?
February 3, 2009
Often fascinating analysis of depictions of women as symbolic of evil, real and metaphorical. Dijkstra covers art and literature primarily. I found the book quite thought-provoking when I read it a few years back and am still talking about years later. Highly recommended.
August 27, 2011
Dreary feminist tract. Apparently all western art is a patriarchal plot.
August 18, 2020
So, wow, a focused slice of art history. From invalids to vampires. The late nineteenth century iconography of misogyny.
December 26, 2012
A bit hysterical, but hysterical men write a lot of fun stuff. It is, of course, important to note the current of misogyny in fin-de-siécle art and literature, but this is hardly unique to the period. I don't buy Dijkstra's suggestion that fin-de-siécle art led to the rise of fascism in Europe and WWII. That's a bit simplistic, and also seems to be an effort to shift the blame to a source that is easily identifiable and easily chastised. Also, his conclusions are a bit depressing, that the only proper role for a woman is, well, good and wholesome and quite thoroughly boring. Sometimes a woman just wants to be a ruthless, decapitating, vitality-stealing vampire.
It is a bit ironic that in a work about misogyny in art the author tries to define a role for Woman. I suppose at the time this book was published it wasn't very popular to point out that Woman doesn't exist, and we're just people who will do as we please, and be good or bad according to the dictates of our own, individual hearts, just as men do.
It is a bit ironic that in a work about misogyny in art the author tries to define a role for Woman. I suppose at the time this book was published it wasn't very popular to point out that Woman doesn't exist, and we're just people who will do as we please, and be good or bad according to the dictates of our own, individual hearts, just as men do.
August 11, 2017
This book may be summed up as follows: Victorian men had some downright strange ideas about female sexuality. Depicted in art and literature as either virginal 'angels', synonymous with purity,
or as lustful nymphs, viragos, maenads, and vampires - women were anything except human beings it seems. (One wonders how much of this mindset lingers today when it comes to the still prevalent sexual double standard, etc.) The author also examines how contemporary science fed into these views, with the belief that education stunted women's reproductive capabilities and that women were not actually human in the same way men were.
Interesting subject, but infuriating and scary at times.
or as lustful nymphs, viragos, maenads, and vampires - women were anything except human beings it seems. (One wonders how much of this mindset lingers today when it comes to the still prevalent sexual double standard, etc.) The author also examines how contemporary science fed into these views, with the belief that education stunted women's reproductive capabilities and that women were not actually human in the same way men were.
Interesting subject, but infuriating and scary at times.
December 29, 2011
A friend of mine found this in the remainder stack and got it realy cheap and sent it to me We both love the Pr-Raphaelites. We're both perverse. The language is a bit flowery and the casual reader needs to know a bit of art history, but the plethora of pictures makes up for it. I recommend this book not only for those who enjoy art, but for historians, to. How depressing to learn your favorite art is woman-hating. or rather so many Victorian artists were afraid of women. Really, though, this is a tour-de-force.
November 12, 2019
A very interesting timeline of sociocultural changes in attitude toward women in the West--primarily Europe, with some U.S.--from the mid-1800s through the Industrial Revolution and into the disbursement of evolutionary theory and its subsequent influence into World War I, as reflected in the popular, praised art of the time.
Dijkstra takes a pretty strong anti-men tone in some places, to the point that I'd almost say it kills the message--except the message is so meticulously and repetitively documented that it's pretty well unkillable.
Dijkstra takes a pretty strong anti-men tone in some places, to the point that I'd almost say it kills the message--except the message is so meticulously and repetitively documented that it's pretty well unkillable.
February 17, 2011
An excellent book on how the view of woman in art transitioned from positive to negative as women in society looked to expand their roles in the world i.e. out of the house and into the world.
December 5, 2019
I knew nothing of this book until a month ago when a web search for pictures of women in the late nineteenth century took me to a A. J. Carlisle's blog post about it. Ordered it and read it as quickly as I could during a very busy semester. The first half of the book blew me away. As an historian of the nineteenth century, I understand the separate sphere's ideology and am familiar with some of the Viennese Secession artists who get a fair amount of attention. I even had an intuitive sense of the misogynistic aspect of paintings of the ear. Nonetheless Dijkstra brought that to the fore of my consciousness. It seemed the first five or six chapters had two or three sentences so rich and eloquent that they deserved to be written down. Towards the end, I lost some of my enthusiasm, eve if I think the later chapters may be necessary to complete his argument, but I am not sure. The art was nice though, and it was nice to see his explication of Leopold Sacher-Masoch's _Venus in Furs_ in the final chapter.
Reading the other reviews, Dijkstra's claim that the misogyny and male fantasies among the elite laid the groundwork for the Holocaust is controversial, but as a specialist in the era, I think he is correct. He is not making a direct causal link, as I understand it, just pointing to the way the elitist and misogynistic thinking of the era opened up that possibility.
Reading the other reviews, Dijkstra's claim that the misogyny and male fantasies among the elite laid the groundwork for the Holocaust is controversial, but as a specialist in the era, I think he is correct. He is not making a direct causal link, as I understand it, just pointing to the way the elitist and misogynistic thinking of the era opened up that possibility.
July 28, 2022
Una pasada. Me encantó que se centrara en la pintura academicista de fines del siglo XIX, muchas veces opacada por el estallido de las vanguardias. A mí también me enseñaron que el arte dejó de ser figurativo de golpe y casi avergonzado por la aparición de la fotografía, pero resulta que la pintura realista continuó siendo popular en salones y galerías durante todo el proceso, y además nunca se fue del todo.
El tema en sí (la iconografía misógina en la pintura de fin de siglo) está desarrollado con minuciosidad, pero de manera muy amena, e incluso he pillado al autor en uno o dos comentarios ácidos, cosa que me encanta (sí, ya sabemos que los trabajos académicos han de ser hiperserios y asépticos, pero no creo que el conocimiento vaya a morir por demostrar que estás implicado en el tema. digo yo). Ya estaba familiarizada con el péndulo que a lo largo de la historia ha movido la visión popular de las mujeres —de serpiente del mal a ángel del hogar a Salomé pérfida de nuevo—, pero el análisis de Dijskstra me sorprendió por lo exhaustivo y detallado. También encontré muy interesante el vínculo que destapa el autor entre la misoginia y el racismo/eugenesia. Hitler no salió de la nada ni el Tercer Reich se levantó en un día; esas ideas ya estaban creciendo y alimentándose en un clima favorable a la violencia muchísimo antes de que Europa se llevara las manos a la cabeza y dijera "ay, no lo vi venir". Especialmente aterrador fue darme cuenta de que esas mismas ideas sobre las mujeres y las personas racializadas se siguen repitiendo hoy en día entre los incels y la extrema derecha: la maldad intrínseca de las mujeres, la degeneración genética, el gran reemplazo racial. Dijskstra tuvo unos cojones como mangos de decir estas cosas en voz alta en plenos ochenta, y sin embargo aquí estamos.
Lo recomiendo mil a cualquiera que pueda seguir un libro de no ficción en inglés. Brutal y necesario. Ojalá estuviera traducido.
El tema en sí (la iconografía misógina en la pintura de fin de siglo) está desarrollado con minuciosidad, pero de manera muy amena, e incluso he pillado al autor en uno o dos comentarios ácidos, cosa que me encanta (sí, ya sabemos que los trabajos académicos han de ser hiperserios y asépticos, pero no creo que el conocimiento vaya a morir por demostrar que estás implicado en el tema. digo yo). Ya estaba familiarizada con el péndulo que a lo largo de la historia ha movido la visión popular de las mujeres —de serpiente del mal a ángel del hogar a Salomé pérfida de nuevo—, pero el análisis de Dijskstra me sorprendió por lo exhaustivo y detallado. También encontré muy interesante el vínculo que destapa el autor entre la misoginia y el racismo/eugenesia. Hitler no salió de la nada ni el Tercer Reich se levantó en un día; esas ideas ya estaban creciendo y alimentándose en un clima favorable a la violencia muchísimo antes de que Europa se llevara las manos a la cabeza y dijera "ay, no lo vi venir". Especialmente aterrador fue darme cuenta de que esas mismas ideas sobre las mujeres y las personas racializadas se siguen repitiendo hoy en día entre los incels y la extrema derecha: la maldad intrínseca de las mujeres, la degeneración genética, el gran reemplazo racial. Dijskstra tuvo unos cojones como mangos de decir estas cosas en voz alta en plenos ochenta, y sin embargo aquí estamos.
Lo recomiendo mil a cualquiera que pueda seguir un libro de no ficción en inglés. Brutal y necesario. Ojalá estuviera traducido.
February 11, 2023
I have long though fin-de-siècle painters used classical themes, like Diana and her arrow as an excuse to pander to .... Well, the subjects are "nude", not "naked". (We still like our young heroines as archers.)
So, Dijkstra discusses this and builds on it and it is cheeky and engaging and scholarly, so enlightening and entertaining. It feels like spectating objectification of women - pornography on the sly - is just base titillation on the sly. This is rather curbed by the fact that many plates are small, black-and-white things that cannot really be appreciated or "studied". Here is some of the jocular reflection on fleshy oil paintings where women offer the ultimate vulnerability and promised compliance due to skeletal malfunction:
...and....
I read this book for the "articles" - the paragraphs of context where the salacious trends in art decade by decade such as the impact of writers like Otto Weininger. The Austrian philosopher published the book Geschlecht und Charakter (Sex and Character), which gained popularity after his suicide at the age of 23. Parts of his work were adapted for use by the Nazi regime (which at the same time denounced him). Weininger had a strong influence on Ludwig Wittgenstein, August Strindberg, Julius Evola, and even James Joyce.
This all seems to culminate in the virgin-whore decapitating tender trap of Salome which is more analyzed than most themes:
With decapitation a stand-in for castration, this alluring threat seems to be the pinnacle "perversity" referred to in the title. However, sometimes the author seems to cast the depicted heat of lust as perversity:
The Black Sabbath album "The Eternal Idol" used Auguste Rodin's "The Eternal Idol" sculpture (1889) for the cover art and, heck, even Madonna "Like A Prayer" could be a soundtrack to this carving celebrating direct adoration. Dijkstra should just calm down about it and enjoy it for what it is. To me, the perversity presented here is the sexualized children.
So, Dijkstra discusses this and builds on it and it is cheeky and engaging and scholarly, so enlightening and entertaining. It feels like spectating objectification of women - pornography on the sly - is just base titillation on the sly. This is rather curbed by the fact that many plates are small, black-and-white things that cannot really be appreciated or "studied". Here is some of the jocular reflection on fleshy oil paintings where women offer the ultimate vulnerability and promised compliance due to skeletal malfunction:
... How nightmarish painters' dreams of infantile flesh could ultimately become is graphically demonstrated in Léon Frédéric's monumental triptych "The Stream", in which this artist, ostensibly to illustrate Beethoven's "Pastoral" Symphony, created with insane literalness the ultimate representation of the familiar equation between water, women, and the world of the child in a carnal orgy of infant flesh. When images of this sort, of this extreme paranoia, arise in man's imagination, can Buchenwald be far behind?
Certainly such images as Frédéric's "The Stream," whatever the long-range impact may have been of the mentality they represented, show how intensely the generation of men who had been brought up by household nuns was torn by conflicting desires and expectations. While the new evolutionary science had undercut the religious focus of the search for a soul-guardian, the theory of evolution had also implanted a new, urgent sense of res ty in the young vanguard intellectuals, making them yearn to pursue the by bring humanity closer to the world of disembodied essences, of "pure pure mind was to be the new soul, a soul whose creation, whose "evo- he responsibility of the young artists and intellectuals.
...and....
Naiads and woodland nymphs with apparently self-inflicted broken backs became a staple of the Paris salon exhibitions, especially during the period between 1880 and 1914. It did not matter whether such women were portrayed as being carried "on the wings of a dream" or, like Pierre Dupuis' playful ondine, on the crest of a wave, or whether they had already been rudely washed ashore. Even if the artists' excuse for painting their nude and sprawled bodies was to show them as the personification of "the wave," or "the breeze," or as "Aphrodite", they always seemed to suffer from the same harsh spinal distortion. Most of these paintings are stylistic echoes of Alexandre Cabanel's succès de scandale of 1863. "The Birth of Venus", which in its own way revolutionized the representation of this theme by having Venus rise out of the waves not standing upright and in control of things, as in Botticelli's famous version, but by having her seem to have floated to the surface from the ocean floor in a conveniently horizontal position. Earl Shinn, commenting on the painting in 1879, remarked laconically that "the form of this personage suffers from bonelessness." Noting this Venus' "delicate and seductive" as well as "rather uncelestial" beauty, Shinn pointed out that "the painter has created her with that absence of which evades responsibility". In addition to exhibiting the lassitude […] of the collapsing woman…
I read this book for the "articles" - the paragraphs of context where the salacious trends in art decade by decade such as the impact of writers like Otto Weininger. The Austrian philosopher published the book Geschlecht und Charakter (Sex and Character), which gained popularity after his suicide at the age of 23. Parts of his work were adapted for use by the Nazi regime (which at the same time denounced him). Weininger had a strong influence on Ludwig Wittgenstein, August Strindberg, Julius Evola, and even James Joyce.
This all seems to culminate in the virgin-whore decapitating tender trap of Salome which is more analyzed than most themes:
Elements of the Salome theme delineated by Moreau, Flaubert, Huysmans, and La- forgue were to come together by 1891, to produce first in French and shortly afterward in an English translation by Lord Alfred Douglas-Oscar Wilde's famous play, which did more than any other single image or piece of writing to make the headhuntress name a household word for pernicious sexual perversity. Wilde's Salome is a very carefully designed dramatization of the struggle between the bestial hunger of woman and the idealistic yearnings of man. The play works up to a conclusion in which the masculine mind is led, through temptation and submission, to an understanding of the need for woman's immediate physical destruction. In Wilde's symbolic drama a wholesale manipulation of the image of woman as aggressor serves as a cleansing ritual of passage designed to expose her mindless perfidy and insatiable physical need. As such the work climaxes in a categorical renunciation of any communication between male and female, and, in effect, be- comes a call to gynecide.
[…] Wilde's Salome is, in Jokanaan's words, "a basilisk" born "from the seed of the serpent," a reptile able to kill a man simply by looking at him...
With decapitation a stand-in for castration, this alluring threat seems to be the pinnacle "perversity" referred to in the title. However, sometimes the author seems to cast the depicted heat of lust as perversity:
In his sculpture "The Eternal Idol" Rodin placed masochistic man in his preferred relationship to woman: A helpless hero, he kneels before the perverse creature...
The Black Sabbath album "The Eternal Idol" used Auguste Rodin's "The Eternal Idol" sculpture (1889) for the cover art and, heck, even Madonna "Like A Prayer" could be a soundtrack to this carving celebrating direct adoration. Dijkstra should just calm down about it and enjoy it for what it is. To me, the perversity presented here is the sexualized children.
September 16, 2012
I wasn't convinced by a lot of the examples in this, and there were some things which may have been ignored because they didn't fit with the theme. One example of how this didn't gel with me... Herbert Draper's 'The Gates of Dawn' is surely a picture of a woman looking out at all the possibilities open to her! Yes, she is reflecting moonlight, but she is beautiful and at the gates of a new world. I find this inspiring. (Am I just ignorant?) This is certainly a book which would be useful to provoke discussion.
June 22, 2012
This book charts ways in which women, notably in the Victorian era, were viewed as naturally sick and physically badly designed, and how Western art and literature reflected this in its portrayal of the female sex. A fascinating book, well researched and food for thought.
September 30, 2011
Great book. Really helped me understand the evolution of the female form in 19th century art.
December 27, 2014
Haven't read in too long a time for accurate review. Will revisit.
June 6, 2024
A book I enjoyed particularly - and I own it - because it gave answers to the discomfort the 19. century in the W.E.I.R.D. world has been giving me for a very long time. As a woman, I am very aware that living in the present times - despite all the current aspects that bother us - we have reason to be thankful for the opportunity to have and stand up for opportunities. Which is so much more than women in Victorian times got.
Bram Dijkstra documents this slice of history and the place and vision it afforded women from the perspective of figurative art (mainly, even though sculpture pops up occasionally to provide some documentary support for his theories, as well) and literature. Famous - and not famous authors - painters and sculptors of the period spanning from the Second Empire to shortly before the Second World War. Visual arts capture the perception and idea that man wanted for woman: total subservience and an existence only justified if in service of man. From the dedicated mother-nurse, to the frail nymph, to the seductress to the castrator, somehow woman never really gets it right - thus justifying man's control over her. And the symbols which communicate this in art are abundant in the paintings between 1850-1930.
Not a book that will endear the 19. century male to anyone. :)
However, a book that is filled with images of works that are hard to find, so many I saw for the first time. Or familiar ones I saw with new eyes.
It was a very compelling read that amplified my perspective of how I looked at paintings from that period.
4-stars because
- all images are black-and-white in a book where color would have helped getting a better grasp of the details which support the authors idea;
- the last chapter which somehow seemed to not follow or fit with how the book started off. It seemed contrived and stuffy.
Bram Dijkstra documents this slice of history and the place and vision it afforded women from the perspective of figurative art (mainly, even though sculpture pops up occasionally to provide some documentary support for his theories, as well) and literature. Famous - and not famous authors - painters and sculptors of the period spanning from the Second Empire to shortly before the Second World War. Visual arts capture the perception and idea that man wanted for woman: total subservience and an existence only justified if in service of man. From the dedicated mother-nurse, to the frail nymph, to the seductress to the castrator, somehow woman never really gets it right - thus justifying man's control over her. And the symbols which communicate this in art are abundant in the paintings between 1850-1930.
Not a book that will endear the 19. century male to anyone. :)
However, a book that is filled with images of works that are hard to find, so many I saw for the first time. Or familiar ones I saw with new eyes.
It was a very compelling read that amplified my perspective of how I looked at paintings from that period.
4-stars because
- all images are black-and-white in a book where color would have helped getting a better grasp of the details which support the authors idea;
- the last chapter which somehow seemed to not follow or fit with how the book started off. It seemed contrived and stuffy.
November 3, 2021
This book by Bram Dijkstra is a study of art history during the late 19th to early 20th century. It analyzes woman, in a cast of evil characters throughout the ages, not only in art but in literature as well, and touches upon ancient famous female characters of the Old Testament (the beheading of John the Baptist). As a student of female gender studies I found Chapter 4, The Weightless Woman; the Nymph with the Broken Back; and the Mythology of Therapeutic Rape revealing. Interesting, ideologies of male doctors during this time period whose prescriptions to their male patients and associates included something known as therapeutic rape for "taming" the disobedient wife. It analyzes many famous artworks of the time period and included a study on The Cult of Invalidism; Ophelia and Folly; Dead Ladies and the Fetish Sleep, to homosexuality; lesbian glass and the male dream of transcendence to the metamorphosis of female vampires and the tale of Dracula to Virgin Whores of Babylon, Judith and Salome and The Priestesses of Man’s Severed Head. It's an interesting look at history, art, and literature as well as a look at patriarchy's influence in these mediums as oppressing, subjugating, and shaping "that perfect primal Eve" into that "ideal woman" that man "doth still, discontentedly compare" and realizes isn't so fair. The influence of the Old Testament story, woman as evil temptress has astounding reverberation throughout the ages. The male fantasy that speaks truth to men's plight against these female sinners, women intent on tempting man into sin and thus, leading him into everlasting destruction still influences some men today who believe that women are best chaste, obedient, and silent.
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January 18, 2018"When women became increasingly resistant to men’s efforts to teach them, in the name of progress and evolution, how to behave within their appointed station in civilization, men’s cultural campaign to educate their mates, frustrated by women’s “inherently perverse” unwillingness to conform, escalated into what can truthfully be called a war on woman - for to say “women” would contradict a major premise of the period’s anti-feminine thought. If this was a war largely fought on the battlefield of words and images, where the dead and wounded fell without notice into the mass grave of lost human creativity, it was no less destructive than many real wars. Indeed, I intend to show that the intellectual assumptions which underlay the turn of the century’s cultural war on woman also permitted the implementation of the genocidal race theories of Nazi Germany. .........
Some of the most vicious expressions of male distrust of, and enmity towards, women can be found in the writings of the medieval church fathers which late nineteenth-century writers liked to quote. These tireless purveyors of culture were also forever delving into the large fund of antifeminine lore to be found in classical mythology and the Bible." ~Bram Dijkstra's, Idol's of Perversity: Fantasies of Feminine Evil in Fin De Siecle Culture
Some of the most vicious expressions of male distrust of, and enmity towards, women can be found in the writings of the medieval church fathers which late nineteenth-century writers liked to quote. These tireless purveyors of culture were also forever delving into the large fund of antifeminine lore to be found in classical mythology and the Bible." ~Bram Dijkstra's, Idol's of Perversity: Fantasies of Feminine Evil in Fin De Siecle Culture
February 14, 2025
4.25
Very informative and well composed. The transitions and themes are fluid from chapter to chapter but at some points it did seem redundant and overwritten or with prolonged scientific expositions. On the other hand that added a sociological framing to the reading rather than purely art historical.
However, the one gripe I have is tying the broad themes together Dijkstra neglects the person nuance of the artists and writers who had their own toxic interpersonal relationships that influenced their art apart from the intellectual and artistic movements highlighted in the text. For instance Edvard Munch and Baudelaire who had to knowledge somewhat valid psychologically traumatic experiences with their mothers and or romantic partners.
Altogether though for a book rewritten in 1986 the themes are still relevant today especially in the upsurge of demure influencers, femininity coaches, and trad wives who were for essentially brainwashed into upholding sexist ideology versus feminists.
Very informative and well composed. The transitions and themes are fluid from chapter to chapter but at some points it did seem redundant and overwritten or with prolonged scientific expositions. On the other hand that added a sociological framing to the reading rather than purely art historical.
However, the one gripe I have is tying the broad themes together Dijkstra neglects the person nuance of the artists and writers who had their own toxic interpersonal relationships that influenced their art apart from the intellectual and artistic movements highlighted in the text. For instance Edvard Munch and Baudelaire who had to knowledge somewhat valid psychologically traumatic experiences with their mothers and or romantic partners.
Altogether though for a book rewritten in 1986 the themes are still relevant today especially in the upsurge of demure influencers, femininity coaches, and trad wives who were for essentially brainwashed into upholding sexist ideology versus feminists.
March 24, 2021
Good analyses of late 1800- and early 1900's misogynist art and how it influenced the creation of far-right thought. The only problem in this book is the writers sarcastic way of describing the artist and paintings. This book made my laugh out loud, but this is a academic book, so the writers sarcasm revealed it biases. Still the citations show that the interpretations of the writer are correct.
In today's standards people of 1800- and 1900's sound like drunk red necks and Nazis
In today's standards people of 1800- and 1900's sound like drunk red necks and Nazis
July 6, 2018
This is one of my most favorite books in the world ever. I've held on to this book for over 20 years. I'm not sure I have keep any other of my books for this long.
My ultimate fantasy is to be in an art gallery with every single one of these original paintings.
My ultimate fantasy is to be in an art gallery with every single one of these original paintings.
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