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Inhumans vs. X-Men #0-6
Inhumans vs. X-Men
The X-Men and Inhumans have been on a collision course ever since the link was proven between the Inhumans' precious Terrigen Mist and the sickness and death of many mutants. And when Beast discovers that the mutants have only two weeks left before planet Earth becomes completely uninhabitable for them, an Inhuman/mutant war is unavoidable! It all begins with one choice, and the world will never be the same! INHUMANS VS. X-MEN delivers sensational set pieces and gargantuan grudge matches that promise to shatter the Marvel Universe as you know it!
Collects IvX 0-6
Collects IvX 0-6
208 pages, Hardcover
First published November 1, 2016
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Charles Soule
1,534 books1,703 followersCharles Soule is a #1 New York Times-bestselling novelist, comics author, screenwriter, musician, and lapsed attorney. He has written some of the most prominent stories of the last decade for Marvel, DC and Lucasfilm in addition to his own work, such as his comics Curse Words, Letter 44 and Undiscovered Country, and his original novels Light of the Jedi, The Endless Vessel, The Oracle Year and Anyone. He lives in New York.
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July 16, 2018
I think most people can agree that the whole Inhumans as the new X-men thing never really caught on in the way Marvel hoped it would. They were more a cool niche group that should have been pulled out of the closet and used sparingly.
Not pushed on unsuspecting audiences as a top shelf team.
At the height of Marvel's folly, they were everywhere.
EVERYWHERE.
And still, they remained the yellow lollipop of the MU. Sure, there are people who like yellow lollipops...
But most people? They want blue or red, maybe even green!
And yet, for what we'll now be referring to as the Dark Times, Marvel insisted that if they waved the yellow lollipops at us enough, our taste buds would change. Mutate, if you will.
Sadly for Marvel executives, our taste buds remained the same. But in a move no one thought possible, Mickey Mouse swooped in to save the day and potentially saved us all from another season of Bald Medusa.
Could it be?! Could Marvel get the rights back to the X-men?!
Maybe.
Regardless, it was long past time to bid the vast majority of Inhuman comics adieu.
And make no mistake that's exactly what this is. No, they aren't getting rid of the Inhumans, but I think (most) readers were sort of tired of having these guys crammed down our throats. Nobody asked for the X-men's bastard 2nd cousins to dominate every storyline in the Marvel universe, so disbanding these fuckers for a bit was not a bad move.
Alright, as far as the story goes?
I didn't think this was any worse than most of the big mash-up Events that Marvel tends to toss our way. I put off reading this one for a while but it honestly wasn't as painful as I was expecting it to be.
Ish.
If you like to see superheroes go head-to-head with each other, girded with plot armor and only the thinnest of reasons to not talk it out first, then you'll likely not be disappointed.
Not pushed on unsuspecting audiences as a top shelf team.
At the height of Marvel's folly, they were everywhere.
EVERYWHERE.
And still, they remained the yellow lollipop of the MU. Sure, there are people who like yellow lollipops...
But most people? They want blue or red, maybe even green!
And yet, for what we'll now be referring to as the Dark Times, Marvel insisted that if they waved the yellow lollipops at us enough, our taste buds would change. Mutate, if you will.
Sadly for Marvel executives, our taste buds remained the same. But in a move no one thought possible, Mickey Mouse swooped in to save the day and potentially saved us all from another season of Bald Medusa.
Could it be?! Could Marvel get the rights back to the X-men?!
Maybe.
Regardless, it was long past time to bid the vast majority of Inhuman comics adieu.
And make no mistake that's exactly what this is. No, they aren't getting rid of the Inhumans, but I think (most) readers were sort of tired of having these guys crammed down our throats. Nobody asked for the X-men's bastard 2nd cousins to dominate every storyline in the Marvel universe, so disbanding these fuckers for a bit was not a bad move.
Alright, as far as the story goes?
I didn't think this was any worse than most of the big mash-up Events that Marvel tends to toss our way. I put off reading this one for a while but it honestly wasn't as painful as I was expecting it to be.
Ish.
If you like to see superheroes go head-to-head with each other, girded with plot armor and only the thinnest of reasons to not talk it out first, then you'll likely not be disappointed.
January 21, 2018
Hey, awesome--more heroes fighting heroes and acting out of character. Let's call a halt on this tomfoolery for about 10 years, Marvel, lest I be forced to take drastic action and buy myself a crazy expensive bottle of Scotch (though I don't think that would bother Marvel all that much).
February 12, 2021
So I got round to rereading this event, and it still doesn't feel right. Everything's a bit off with the very much out of character behaviour and action of many X-Men, Inhumans and NuHumans. 70+ years ago we had The Thing vs The Hulk, the House of Ideas needs some new ideas other than pitching 'heroes' against one another. For what it is worth I did love the portrayals of Havoc... erm yep, just Havoc. 7 out of 12 for the hugeness of it all.
March 8, 2017
The terrigen cloud has been a threat looming over the heads of every mutant alive. Beast has been working with the Inhumans on a solution, but he has run out of time. The terrigen cloud is making the Earth uninhabitable for mutants. Beast warns the X-Men first.
They decide to destroy the cloud and defeat the Inhumans. War over the survival of mutant kind is coming to New Attilan.
Inhumans vs X-Men was really bad. There is no other way for me to say it. I like the Inhumans and the X-Men, but this entire event was unnecessary. As happens so often in events characters behave out of character so that the story can advance. The majority of the series is spent with the Inhumans having no clue why the mutants are attacking them. These characters have relationships with one another and rather than talking the X-Men go right to fighting. The Inhumans generally try to survive not knowing why anything was happening.
Marvel spent years building to Inhumans vs X-Men and it was a letdown in practically every fashion. Stories like this one make me wonder why I bother reading comics at all. It was all just bad. It's such a shame.
1.5 out of 5 stars
They decide to destroy the cloud and defeat the Inhumans. War over the survival of mutant kind is coming to New Attilan.
Inhumans vs X-Men was really bad. There is no other way for me to say it. I like the Inhumans and the X-Men, but this entire event was unnecessary. As happens so often in events characters behave out of character so that the story can advance. The majority of the series is spent with the Inhumans having no clue why the mutants are attacking them. These characters have relationships with one another and rather than talking the X-Men go right to fighting. The Inhumans generally try to survive not knowing why anything was happening.
Marvel spent years building to Inhumans vs X-Men and it was a letdown in practically every fashion. Stories like this one make me wonder why I bother reading comics at all. It was all just bad. It's such a shame.
1.5 out of 5 stars
December 28, 2017
This was reallly reallllllly realllllllllly boring....
I don't know why this was made. I mean I know why. To have more sales for both Inhumans and X-Men but the reasoning didn't make sense. So the Gas that creates Inhumans is killing Mutants. So what do the mutants do? Storm, Jean, Young Beast, you know the HEROES who PROTECT people no matter what...They decide they must stop the Inhumans. So they take down their last gas tower which does exactly the same thing to mutants would do to Inhumans. Meaning no more Inhumans...so...heroes become villains?
Good: The idea of it isn't terrible. Actually it could create some interesting concepts. I thought there were some good funny moments too.
Bad: The fights were dull, the dialog made no sense half the time, people reacted in ways that were super untrue to their characters. I also thought the pacing was so bad...dull...I was sleeping half way through this one.
At only 6 issues you'd think it be easier to rate it higher but this is easily one of the worst events I've read and one of the worst comics of the year. Just skip it...completely. A 1.5 out of 5.
I don't know why this was made. I mean I know why. To have more sales for both Inhumans and X-Men but the reasoning didn't make sense. So the Gas that creates Inhumans is killing Mutants. So what do the mutants do? Storm, Jean, Young Beast, you know the HEROES who PROTECT people no matter what...They decide they must stop the Inhumans. So they take down their last gas tower which does exactly the same thing to mutants would do to Inhumans. Meaning no more Inhumans...so...heroes become villains?
Good: The idea of it isn't terrible. Actually it could create some interesting concepts. I thought there were some good funny moments too.
Bad: The fights were dull, the dialog made no sense half the time, people reacted in ways that were super untrue to their characters. I also thought the pacing was so bad...dull...I was sleeping half way through this one.
At only 6 issues you'd think it be easier to rate it higher but this is easily one of the worst events I've read and one of the worst comics of the year. Just skip it...completely. A 1.5 out of 5.
March 31, 2022
This is something of a big, dumb mess of a book... but, as I didn't have high hopes of a hugely meaningful epic crossover Event going in, I wasn't too disappointed and so I enjoyed it for the most part. Marvel has had heroes fight one another for no particular reason the better part of seven decades, and here we go again... It's got an occasionally baffling array of characters, some duplicate versions of the same characters, and some of whom don't seem to know why they're there. (Ms. Marvel is there to walk the dog, but I'm not sure about Johnnie Storm...or Moon Girl & Pal... Crystal looks like she wishes she had the old hair style that Jack Kirby gave her. I didn't think they handled Emma Frost's character well.) There are a few good lines and amusing bits, but I'm glad I didn't lay out the cover price. God bless libraries! There are three different artists among the seven issues, all of whom have different takes on the characters, so that kind of blows the continuity. It's all nicely colored, with some interesting page layouts. Lower your expectations and enjoy the ride. Excelsior!
December 16, 2017
Everyone knew exactly where this was headed and what would happen in this series for at least a year before this was even announced. There's a giant cloud floating across the Earth that kills mutants. Of course the X-Men are going to try and destroy it. The Inhumans act like they have no idea what's going on or why the X-Men are attacking. The Nuhumans (What a stupid name!) are the only ones that are acting sanely. I'm sure glad I waited for this to appear on Marvel Unlimited.
I sure do hope the X-Men get their mojo back once Disney takes back the X-Men from Fox. And the Inhumans return to obscurity. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the real reason for the Inhumans push and the sh!#y X-Men comics of the last few years at Marvel.
I sure do hope the X-Men get their mojo back once Disney takes back the X-Men from Fox. And the Inhumans return to obscurity. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the real reason for the Inhumans push and the sh!#y X-Men comics of the last few years at Marvel.
August 8, 2017
Wow. That was really bad.
July 5, 2018
2.5 stars. This book is really dumb and yet, for some reason, I kind of liked parts of it.
First, the good:
The art is good.
I like the Inhumans. A lot of people don't and I get that. For some reason they remind me of the society in Nightbreed and I think that helps.
It has some funny parts that made me laugh (like Magneto saying he needed to go to the bathroom. Dumb but funny).
The bad:
Much like Avengers vs X-Men, this whole story is just one big, dumb punching match.
The characters acted WAY out of character.
It had a bunch of characters that I didn't know and didn't care about (Nuhumans? Christ...Instead of adding more and more and more characters, can we just work with what we have for a while?).
The main problem--the cloud that is going to kill all of the X-Men--was easily fixed. At the end, even Medusa is like "Oh, well why didn't you guys just say something?". And the huge problem that is going to kill everyone is fixed by a little girl in like 5 seconds.
First, the good:
The art is good.
I like the Inhumans. A lot of people don't and I get that. For some reason they remind me of the society in Nightbreed and I think that helps.
It has some funny parts that made me laugh (like Magneto saying he needed to go to the bathroom. Dumb but funny).
The bad:
Much like Avengers vs X-Men, this whole story is just one big, dumb punching match.
The characters acted WAY out of character.
It had a bunch of characters that I didn't know and didn't care about (Nuhumans? Christ...Instead of adding more and more and more characters, can we just work with what we have for a while?).
The main problem--the cloud that is going to kill all of the X-Men--was easily fixed. At the end, even Medusa is like "Oh, well why didn't you guys just say something?". And the huge problem that is going to kill everyone is fixed by a little girl in like 5 seconds.
March 26, 2017
Oh man, that was pretty damn excellent.
When I finished the last volume of Bendis' exhausting X-series (Storyville), I really thought that was the official end of the storyline Grant Morrison started with New X-Men back in 2000, but I was totally wrong. Inhumans vs X-Men is the real ending, and the real deal -- a crossover that is near perfect in its themes, pacing, and design.
Of the many weird things that Morrison's run did to usher in the modern X-era, there was one thing that has driven the series ever since -- the death of Jean Grey (which had been done already, and wasn't that interesting) and the resultant romance between Cyclops (the lawful good) and Emma Frost, the White Queen (a chaotic neutral, at best). Considered a good or logical idea by absolutely no one (readers and fictional mutants alike), their relationship created a moral conflict that has since defined modern X-comics.
The other inciting incident during the early 00's wasn't Morrison's -- it was a crossover called Avengers: Disassembled, which wasn't great but ushered in the ongoing theme of the modern X-books, that of impending mutant extinction via various magical/otherworldly/genetic/whatever means. This theme was first explored (like Jean Grey's death) during Chris Claremont's run in the 80's, but I don't think it was embraced with the same obsessive grandeur as it has been in the modern X-comics. Basically, the entire 21st century's worth of X-Men stories has been one long interconnected epic about a species' will to survive, with Cyclops as its central protagonist-turned-antagonist as his sense of duty to his people overwhelms him. Conversely, Emma has been rendered as an anarchist-turned-altruist: whether Cyclops has humanized her, or she simply uses his power to shape the X-Men into something darker and more violent, is never entirely clear.
Seeing Cyclops start as a flatly-rendered leading man and then morph into a benignly psychotic revolutionary is one of the most interesting story arcs I've ever experienced in comics, and it seemed like Bendis was able to finally give the character some peace at the end of his Uncanny run -- although everyone still kind of hates Cyclops for fifteen years of douchebaggery, he mellows out and promises to stop trying to save the mutants/kill the world.
But soon after this, he dies (because he has to, because comics) in the obviously-named Death of X, as the X-Men take on the Inhumans, another race of genetically-enhanced overpowered weirdos just trying to survive.
The Inhumans storyline seemed pretty weak as a premise -- the X-Men already spend more time fighting other heroes than villains, with their main nemeses having been the Avengers for the past ten years -- and it really felt like the most bombastic, magical/terrible, review-proof comics on earth had run out of the rainbow-idiot-juice that ran their ridiculous engines.
But NO.
Inhumans vs X-Men is a fascinatingly weird book because the X-Men are finally confronted with an adversary who are ACTUALLY their moral betters, as opposed to enemies who are, time and time again, proven to be privileged and shortsighted. X-Men comics have always been a discussion of oppression and of privilege, but IvX successfully tackles intersectionality as well, and makes a definitive point about the way the X-Men are a just people run by unjust leaders. I think it's amazing how the dumbest comics in the world are able, quite deftly, to continually explore the thin line between self-preservation and self-righteousness. Here, this question is brought to the forefront. Cyclops may be dead, but he was genuinely loved! But he was loved by hateful people! But hateful people can sometimes act rightly for the wrong reasons! and vice versa, and both these things at once....and on and on. Etc, etc. INTERSECTIONALITY, yo.
I love X-Men comics for a lot of reasons. They exist as reckless, unapologetic escapism; they are often too weird for their own good. But they also explore moral ambiguity in a way that I always find satisfying. They are like a sandbox for how feelings work, and they simplify and flounder and occasionally walk backwards into enlightenment without trying, for God's sake.
When I finished the last volume of Bendis' exhausting X-series (Storyville), I really thought that was the official end of the storyline Grant Morrison started with New X-Men back in 2000, but I was totally wrong. Inhumans vs X-Men is the real ending, and the real deal -- a crossover that is near perfect in its themes, pacing, and design.
Of the many weird things that Morrison's run did to usher in the modern X-era, there was one thing that has driven the series ever since -- the death of Jean Grey (which had been done already, and wasn't that interesting) and the resultant romance between Cyclops (the lawful good) and Emma Frost, the White Queen (a chaotic neutral, at best). Considered a good or logical idea by absolutely no one (readers and fictional mutants alike), their relationship created a moral conflict that has since defined modern X-comics.
The other inciting incident during the early 00's wasn't Morrison's -- it was a crossover called Avengers: Disassembled, which wasn't great but ushered in the ongoing theme of the modern X-books, that of impending mutant extinction via various magical/otherworldly/genetic/whatever means. This theme was first explored (like Jean Grey's death) during Chris Claremont's run in the 80's, but I don't think it was embraced with the same obsessive grandeur as it has been in the modern X-comics. Basically, the entire 21st century's worth of X-Men stories has been one long interconnected epic about a species' will to survive, with Cyclops as its central protagonist-turned-antagonist as his sense of duty to his people overwhelms him. Conversely, Emma has been rendered as an anarchist-turned-altruist: whether Cyclops has humanized her, or she simply uses his power to shape the X-Men into something darker and more violent, is never entirely clear.
Seeing Cyclops start as a flatly-rendered leading man and then morph into a benignly psychotic revolutionary is one of the most interesting story arcs I've ever experienced in comics, and it seemed like Bendis was able to finally give the character some peace at the end of his Uncanny run -- although everyone still kind of hates Cyclops for fifteen years of douchebaggery, he mellows out and promises to stop trying to save the mutants/kill the world.
But soon after this, he dies (because he has to, because comics) in the obviously-named Death of X, as the X-Men take on the Inhumans, another race of genetically-enhanced overpowered weirdos just trying to survive.
The Inhumans storyline seemed pretty weak as a premise -- the X-Men already spend more time fighting other heroes than villains, with their main nemeses having been the Avengers for the past ten years -- and it really felt like the most bombastic, magical/terrible, review-proof comics on earth had run out of the rainbow-idiot-juice that ran their ridiculous engines.
But NO.
Inhumans vs X-Men is a fascinatingly weird book because the X-Men are finally confronted with an adversary who are ACTUALLY their moral betters, as opposed to enemies who are, time and time again, proven to be privileged and shortsighted. X-Men comics have always been a discussion of oppression and of privilege, but IvX successfully tackles intersectionality as well, and makes a definitive point about the way the X-Men are a just people run by unjust leaders. I think it's amazing how the dumbest comics in the world are able, quite deftly, to continually explore the thin line between self-preservation and self-righteousness. Here, this question is brought to the forefront. Cyclops may be dead, but he was genuinely loved! But he was loved by hateful people! But hateful people can sometimes act rightly for the wrong reasons! and vice versa, and both these things at once....and on and on. Etc, etc. INTERSECTIONALITY, yo.
I love X-Men comics for a lot of reasons. They exist as reckless, unapologetic escapism; they are often too weird for their own good. But they also explore moral ambiguity in a way that I always find satisfying. They are like a sandbox for how feelings work, and they simplify and flounder and occasionally walk backwards into enlightenment without trying, for God's sake.
September 3, 2017
I know Marvel are trying to kill off the x-men and make the Inhumans happen because Fox owns the rights to the X-Men movies, but still...
The inhumans basically seem to be a bunch of super powered aliens who spent most of their history hiding from humanity and not lifting a finger to help with anything until their direct interests were threatened. They're a very hierarchical monarchy where the royal families word is law. They are slave-owners.
Spoilers
They release the Terrigen mist which will awaken humans into super powered inhumans, but, this mist is toxic to mutants, causing sterilisation and death.
The X-Men try to stop the Terrigen mist from killing all mutants, because Genocide, and the Inhumans oppose them because the Terrigen is their religion. So... the Inhumans are a bunch of slave-owning genocidal religious fundementalists.
And these are the new 'heroes' of the Marvel universe?! Who they want to push above the X-men? Srsly?
Cyclops is killed by the Inhumans whilst destroying half the mist, and an uneasy truce is reached. The remaining Terrigen is about to kill all mutants. Inhumans response is either let them die or let them all be exiled from earth into a hell dimension. Charmers.
X-men figure they have no chance of reasoning with this bullshittery, so Emma Frost plans a first strike to incapacitate the Inhumans while they destroy the Terrigen mist. As Magneto puts it, his people will not be gassed to death again. Magneto has a point.
So far this seems absolutely like the heroic X-Men are fighting to save mutantkind from genocidal alien shits.
But then the story takes a bizarre turn where suddenly the Inhumans are the heroes and Emma Frost is the real villian here and having let the gas spend 8 months killing and sterilising mutants, driving them to the verge of extinction, Princess Stupid Hair of the Inhumans says well okay then lets get rid of the gas, and presses a button and it's gone. Poof, just like that. And she flies off with her prince and there is actually a line of dialogue where everybody stands around and goes oh look, it's Princess Stupid Hair and King Shouty Voice, they're so MAGNIFICENT!
And then one of the X-Men says oh well, we were really deceived by Emma Frost and were the real villains here, how dare we try and stop our people being subjected to genocide. And Emma puts on a super evil villainess costume and disappears to plot her revenge because she's a super villain now.
Seriously. It's about the most fucked up thing I've ever read in comics.
And I've read Providence and Neonomicon.
So, I'm quite emotionally invested in the Inhumans tv show crashing and burning, because these racist elitist slave-owning genocidal alien shits can just fuck off and die already.
The inhumans basically seem to be a bunch of super powered aliens who spent most of their history hiding from humanity and not lifting a finger to help with anything until their direct interests were threatened. They're a very hierarchical monarchy where the royal families word is law. They are slave-owners.
Spoilers
They release the Terrigen mist which will awaken humans into super powered inhumans, but, this mist is toxic to mutants, causing sterilisation and death.
The X-Men try to stop the Terrigen mist from killing all mutants, because Genocide, and the Inhumans oppose them because the Terrigen is their religion. So... the Inhumans are a bunch of slave-owning genocidal religious fundementalists.
And these are the new 'heroes' of the Marvel universe?! Who they want to push above the X-men? Srsly?
Cyclops is killed by the Inhumans whilst destroying half the mist, and an uneasy truce is reached. The remaining Terrigen is about to kill all mutants. Inhumans response is either let them die or let them all be exiled from earth into a hell dimension. Charmers.
X-men figure they have no chance of reasoning with this bullshittery, so Emma Frost plans a first strike to incapacitate the Inhumans while they destroy the Terrigen mist. As Magneto puts it, his people will not be gassed to death again. Magneto has a point.
So far this seems absolutely like the heroic X-Men are fighting to save mutantkind from genocidal alien shits.
But then the story takes a bizarre turn where suddenly the Inhumans are the heroes and Emma Frost is the real villian here and having let the gas spend 8 months killing and sterilising mutants, driving them to the verge of extinction, Princess Stupid Hair of the Inhumans says well okay then lets get rid of the gas, and presses a button and it's gone. Poof, just like that. And she flies off with her prince and there is actually a line of dialogue where everybody stands around and goes oh look, it's Princess Stupid Hair and King Shouty Voice, they're so MAGNIFICENT!
And then one of the X-Men says oh well, we were really deceived by Emma Frost and were the real villains here, how dare we try and stop our people being subjected to genocide. And Emma puts on a super evil villainess costume and disappears to plot her revenge because she's a super villain now.
Seriously. It's about the most fucked up thing I've ever read in comics.
And I've read Providence and Neonomicon.
So, I'm quite emotionally invested in the Inhumans tv show crashing and burning, because these racist elitist slave-owning genocidal alien shits can just fuck off and die already.
September 19, 2017
Way better than I had thought it would be. I've liked the idea of terrigen being a serious matter of contention between the Inhumans and the mutants: the Inhumans consider it sacred and need it to continue their culture, but it's literally killing mutants. As far as major dividing arguments go, it's a good one. That said, I've also thought that the issue has been treated far too casually. The X-Men simply bugger off to Limbo, like that's a valid homeland for anyone who isn't a demon, and it seems like only Adult!Beast and maybe a couple Inhumans do anything at all to try to actually solve the problem. Meanwhile, mutants keep dying. That said, the Marvel Universe has been very clear that mutant lives don't count the same as the lives of regular humans, Inhumans, aliens, or talking trees, so that's consistent. This is finally the mutants as a whole treating this entire thing like a matter of survival. Which, to be entirely clear, it absolutely is.
The first couple of issues are the best. They clearly set up the entire conflict for anyone who hasn't been reading mutant books lately. By the time the X-Men as a whole decide on an actual plan of attack, it makes perfect sense that they would do so, and honestly, I was sort of wondering what was taking them so long. The actual mutant assault on the Inhumans is... Well, it's a mixed bag. I loved Jean taking on Karnak, but much of the rest of it is a mush of unappealing action scenes. Things pick up with the last issue, though I sincerely wonder if is a late addition to the story, to soften those characters going forward. And I totally agree that the resolution is far too easy.
In the end, it isn't the best event book I've ever read, but it's largely solid and it's based around a conflict that legitimately does have actual weight without bringing in some never before heard of cosmic character to threaten the very nature of the universe or something.
The first couple of issues are the best. They clearly set up the entire conflict for anyone who hasn't been reading mutant books lately. By the time the X-Men as a whole decide on an actual plan of attack, it makes perfect sense that they would do so, and honestly, I was sort of wondering what was taking them so long. The actual mutant assault on the Inhumans is... Well, it's a mixed bag. I loved Jean taking on Karnak, but much of the rest of it is a mush of unappealing action scenes. Things pick up with the last issue, though I sincerely wonder if is a late addition to the story, to soften those characters going forward. And I totally agree that the resolution is far too easy.
In the end, it isn't the best event book I've ever read, but it's largely solid and it's based around a conflict that legitimately does have actual weight without bringing in some never before heard of cosmic character to threaten the very nature of the universe or something.
March 15, 2017
Another slap in the face to X-Men.
Boring rushed and yet again another major character goes by by.
A lot of new X-Men series do start soon but without a lot of the main characters not entirely sure how it will work.
As for this story it starts well but quickly becomes a mess characters aren't used well and the story becomes rushed and losses focus. It sort of contradicts itself with the ending also and is just sums up how bad X-Men and Inhumans currently are.
Unfortunately it is a must read because a few major things happen but it's a bad read.
Boring rushed and yet again another major character goes by by.
A lot of new X-Men series do start soon but without a lot of the main characters not entirely sure how it will work.
As for this story it starts well but quickly becomes a mess characters aren't used well and the story becomes rushed and losses focus. It sort of contradicts itself with the ending also and is just sums up how bad X-Men and Inhumans currently are.
Unfortunately it is a must read because a few major things happen but it's a bad read.
June 2, 2017
Everyone know this is a bad idea.
Everyone knows that this fight didn't make sense.
This crossover turns the royal family into a monster.
This crossover turns the old marvel characters become senile for some reason. Specially the Xmen.
Like fuucckkk!!!!
The only thing about this books is about the killer cloud that turns people into Alien lizard men and kills Mutty. Yet for some reason they start killing each other instead of fixing it. The only thing redeemable on this book is when Miss Marvel a teenage girl start asking the right question.
Everyone knows that this fight didn't make sense.
This crossover turns the royal family into a monster.
This crossover turns the old marvel characters become senile for some reason. Specially the Xmen.
Like fuucckkk!!!!
The only thing about this books is about the killer cloud that turns people into Alien lizard men and kills Mutty. Yet for some reason they start killing each other instead of fixing it. The only thing redeemable on this book is when Miss Marvel a teenage girl start asking the right question.
October 10, 2017
2,5* at best.
The saddest thing of it all is that it wouldn't have ben so bad if not for the stupidest premise of all: all this 'cos the X-Men are so dumb they never told the Inhumans they only had 2 weeks left before becoming extinct.
So they make a preventive attack (not too badly conceived btw) against the big guns before trying to destroy the last active terrigen mist and it lasts for 6 issues that Leinil Yu couldn't even pencil from beginning to end (the fillers not being as good of course). Being attacked out of the blue, the Inhumans unsurprisingly don't react kindly.
That being said, there are a few good moments here and there and Emma Frost going postal, though predictable, was a good point. No other individualities are really focused on as usual with choral books (this happens in some tie-ins).
The very end was somehow surprising. The progressive queen/dumping bitch part Medusa played baffled me.
When the dust settles down you're left with a bunch of dumb mutants (if only we had thought of talking to them...) and one of not very likeable Inhumans.
Marvel, was it really worth it?
The saddest thing of it all is that it wouldn't have ben so bad if not for the stupidest premise of all: all this 'cos the X-Men are so dumb they never told the Inhumans they only had 2 weeks left before becoming extinct.
So they make a preventive attack (not too badly conceived btw) against the big guns before trying to destroy the last active terrigen mist and it lasts for 6 issues that Leinil Yu couldn't even pencil from beginning to end (the fillers not being as good of course). Being attacked out of the blue, the Inhumans unsurprisingly don't react kindly.
That being said, there are a few good moments here and there and Emma Frost going postal, though predictable, was a good point. No other individualities are really focused on as usual with choral books (this happens in some tie-ins).
The very end was somehow surprising. The progressive queen/dumping bitch part Medusa played baffled me.
When the dust settles down you're left with a bunch of dumb mutants (if only we had thought of talking to them...) and one of not very likeable Inhumans.
Marvel, was it really worth it?
January 9, 2018
A mediocre crossover main event. The X-men are pissed the remaining terrigan cloud is killing mutants and the inhumans want to keep it because inhumans want more weirdos. It is a story with a fair amount of layers going back to death of X and I was on board with the plot with Emma and Magneto but this book is lacking action and mainly sidetracked with keeping you up to speed where everyone is. Big fights are not really present and the ones we see are just a few panels like the colossus vs. gorgon. The bummer is around the end you see this is going to end in a whimper and it does, except the part with Emma and the sentinels but that really amounts to nothing in the book i suspect it for later stuff.
My favorite line in the book " why didn't you tell us earlier!" a no shit revelation from the inhumans... I am actually sad Lemire put his name on the book, what kind of wacky collaboration was this with Soule. The art is also pretty bad, not to my liking.
My favorite line in the book " why didn't you tell us earlier!" a no shit revelation from the inhumans... I am actually sad Lemire put his name on the book, what kind of wacky collaboration was this with Soule. The art is also pretty bad, not to my liking.
May 8, 2023
This one is fascinating to me, as it represents the culmination of several forces:
1. Marvel’s push to make the Inhumans the next X-Men.
I’m sorry to the hardcore Inhumans fans out there, but the Inhumans are dull. They inspire, in this reader at least, naught but yawns. I understand that they’re supposed to be cool and interesting, but they’re really just … flat. Despite Marvel trying to make them important, purely for commercial reasons (grow the business, position the Inhumans as cool X-Men type characters at a time when Marvel Studios didn’t have the rights to the X-Men, etc), but it just never works. A noble effort, but they’re just way too dull.
2. Marvel’s push for an event comic.
Event comics sell. So publishers need events to push, generate excitement, boost sales, and so on. That’s cool. The problem is that this whole story would not have happened if the characters had a chat. This, in writing terms, is known as the idiot plot—a plot line that would simply vanish with even basic communication. The writers work hard to sell WHY the communication doesn’t happen, but it’s a tough sell when this whole event feels so utterly contrived.
3. The writers creating some meaningful conflict.
As contrived as this all is, there’s actually some good emotional stuff here. Emma Frost’s motivations and drive are great and make for terrific drama. There’s just not quite enough of it to make you forget that this would all go away with a phone call.
4. The creative team trying to create a really cool book.
The fights and tactics here are truly better than most books. I love when a group uses smart tactics to take down their opponents, and the other side have to use their ingenuity to win the day. It’s what I loved about Second Coming, and this book has that same coolness about it, along with pages of great art and colours. It’s all so dynamic and vibrant—the book is beautifully illustrated. There is truly much to like here.
Overall, though … this book is what it is. It’s a push to sell a big event with dull characters and thin reasons for fighting, and even though the creative team work their asses off to make it come together, it never truly does.
1. Marvel’s push to make the Inhumans the next X-Men.
I’m sorry to the hardcore Inhumans fans out there, but the Inhumans are dull. They inspire, in this reader at least, naught but yawns. I understand that they’re supposed to be cool and interesting, but they’re really just … flat. Despite Marvel trying to make them important, purely for commercial reasons (grow the business, position the Inhumans as cool X-Men type characters at a time when Marvel Studios didn’t have the rights to the X-Men, etc), but it just never works. A noble effort, but they’re just way too dull.
2. Marvel’s push for an event comic.
Event comics sell. So publishers need events to push, generate excitement, boost sales, and so on. That’s cool. The problem is that this whole story would not have happened if the characters had a chat. This, in writing terms, is known as the idiot plot—a plot line that would simply vanish with even basic communication. The writers work hard to sell WHY the communication doesn’t happen, but it’s a tough sell when this whole event feels so utterly contrived.
3. The writers creating some meaningful conflict.
As contrived as this all is, there’s actually some good emotional stuff here. Emma Frost’s motivations and drive are great and make for terrific drama. There’s just not quite enough of it to make you forget that this would all go away with a phone call.
4. The creative team trying to create a really cool book.
The fights and tactics here are truly better than most books. I love when a group uses smart tactics to take down their opponents, and the other side have to use their ingenuity to win the day. It’s what I loved about Second Coming, and this book has that same coolness about it, along with pages of great art and colours. It’s all so dynamic and vibrant—the book is beautifully illustrated. There is truly much to like here.
Overall, though … this book is what it is. It’s a push to sell a big event with dull characters and thin reasons for fighting, and even though the creative team work their asses off to make it come together, it never truly does.
December 15, 2018
I don't understand why this got so much hate. Compared to most Marvel big crossovers events in the past decade (which I admit is not saying much) this is actually pretty damn good.
The reasons for mutants and inhumans to go to war are believable (even more than AvX in my opinion), the story unfolded in an entertaining way, and of course the art was beautiful, which always helps.
I think this is actually the first big crossover that had me hooked, eager to turn to the next page till the end since... Secret Wars maybe, which wasn't long ago but for very different reasons. And I didn't even care or know much about half of the characters in this war!
I hope that now that Disney owns Fox and therefore Marvel has the mutants' cinematic rights back, they will stop trying to push the inhumans down our throats, but this was probably my favorite inhumans story so far.
The reasons for mutants and inhumans to go to war are believable (even more than AvX in my opinion), the story unfolded in an entertaining way, and of course the art was beautiful, which always helps.
I think this is actually the first big crossover that had me hooked, eager to turn to the next page till the end since... Secret Wars maybe, which wasn't long ago but for very different reasons. And I didn't even care or know much about half of the characters in this war!
I hope that now that Disney owns Fox and therefore Marvel has the mutants' cinematic rights back, they will stop trying to push the inhumans down our throats, but this was probably my favorite inhumans story so far.
March 23, 2017
En verdad que el enfrentamiento entre los Inhumanos y los X-Men es una saga bien tibia. Una vez que el tiempo de encontrar una solución pacífica terminó Emma Frost lidera a todo el grupo a luchar por su supervivencia tratando de destruir la última niebla terrígena inhumana. Para ello un ataque rápido a las cabezas de los inhumanos se lanzará, encargada principalmente Magik quien con sus poderes asombrosos dará el primer golpe.
Me resultó un poco interesante aunque tibio como dije, pude conocer a algunos inhumanos que la verdad no sabía nada de ellos pues nunca antes leí una de sus series. Me siguen siendo indiferentes.
Por el final romántico le doy una estrella más (y no lo digo por Medusa).
Me resultó un poco interesante aunque tibio como dije, pude conocer a algunos inhumanos que la verdad no sabía nada de ellos pues nunca antes leí una de sus series. Me siguen siendo indiferentes.
Por el final romántico le doy una estrella más (y no lo digo por Medusa).
January 16, 2022
3.5, bumped because the last issue was really good
March 18, 2017
Better than I expected, but not by much. Soule has some good moments in him, some nice match-ups. But as with Civil War 2, the problem is still setting up the fight, which essentially boils down to supremely smart people doing not-very-smart things, like not communicating. And then that ending, where [spoiler] Medusa dumps someone and on the very next page is making moves on someone else, isn't exactly a flattering portrait. And I'm not entirely on board with the whole "Emma is now mad" angle. AND And the X-Men come across really badly in this, especially considering how selfless the Inhumans come out at the end. On the plus side, this does give some of the new characters time to shine.
August 21, 2019
A good addition to the end of the X-Men as we knew them. Thankfully Marvel is coming out with a rebirth of sorts for the mutants but this tale is a strong indication of how far Xavier's dream has fallen. A good and fun read, but sad if you grew up with this group of reluctant superheroes.
July 8, 2020
Po debilním Death of X přišel na řadu event IvsX a musím říct, že to byla nadprůměrná zábava. Většinou marvelovské eventuálně jsou prostě jen rubačka a konec, ale tady se i něco dělo. Jinak co se týká Lemira tak za mě má dobré věci jen když s někým spolupracuje, jinak to je hovnař.
August 20, 2019
This was...stupid. I can’t really get over the premise and how dumb it was. I get that they tried to set up the conflict by having Beast overhear Medusa and the plans for if the X-Men got an idea, but...the Inhumans never actually were given the option to be seen as the bad guys. It’s one thing when there’s an actual conflict that occurs because of a difference of opinion, but all that goes out the window if one (or both) parties don’t have access to all of the information.
Also, why couldn’t they come up with something to reconstitute the crystals? It seemed like that was the direction Forge went with his invention, but then I don’t think that’s what happened.
There was also trouble balancing all of the characters. I’m not as familiar with the Inhuman characters, but I have heard of a lot of them. That said, they were always introduced in large groups and without much introduction.
The art was pretty good throughout, but inconsistent. There was a panel where Medusa had something added to her hair, bunching it into different groups. They seemed abstract at first, but then in later issues they became her stylized “M” logo. I think they were blades? It seemed kinda pointless. Like the whole story.
Oh well. At least I’m excited for the next chapter of these series.
Also, why couldn’t they come up with something to reconstitute the crystals? It seemed like that was the direction Forge went with his invention, but then I don’t think that’s what happened.
There was also trouble balancing all of the characters. I’m not as familiar with the Inhuman characters, but I have heard of a lot of them. That said, they were always introduced in large groups and without much introduction.
The art was pretty good throughout, but inconsistent. There was a panel where Medusa had something added to her hair, bunching it into different groups. They seemed abstract at first, but then in later issues they became her stylized “M” logo. I think they were blades? It seemed kinda pointless. Like the whole story.
Oh well. At least I’m excited for the next chapter of these series.
September 5, 2017
useless "clash". it was obviously rushed just to shove the inhumans in our throats again. 2 at best
May 19, 2018
You're probably thinking, "I can't remember the last time that a big Marvel crossover was any good." Well, this one ain't going to change your mind.
It actually starts off pretty decent, with a couple of issues of characters trying to solve the big problem of the Terrigen Cloud and the M-Pox. While they're sometimes at odds, the conflict is interesting, and we get interesting moments based on these characters as people.
But the last five issues are just a long string of fights. There's pretty much no characterization, for either the X-Men or the (lackluster) Inhumans. Some of the fights and events are even grossly decompressed, like Karnak's battles and the Inhumans in Limbo. They just go on and on, issue after issue.
And the climax? It's pretty much, "Oh, if we'd talked about this, the whole fight could have been avoided." Why didn't they talk? So that Marvel could sell seven boring issues.
(I don't think this volume has been helped by Marvel's recent trend of printing crossovers in hardcovers while the normal comics appear in paperback. This usually results in reading the big climatic crossover well afterward, when the paperback comes out and you no longer care. As is the case here.)
It actually starts off pretty decent, with a couple of issues of characters trying to solve the big problem of the Terrigen Cloud and the M-Pox. While they're sometimes at odds, the conflict is interesting, and we get interesting moments based on these characters as people.
But the last five issues are just a long string of fights. There's pretty much no characterization, for either the X-Men or the (lackluster) Inhumans. Some of the fights and events are even grossly decompressed, like Karnak's battles and the Inhumans in Limbo. They just go on and on, issue after issue.
And the climax? It's pretty much, "Oh, if we'd talked about this, the whole fight could have been avoided." Why didn't they talk? So that Marvel could sell seven boring issues.
(I don't think this volume has been helped by Marvel's recent trend of printing crossovers in hardcovers while the normal comics appear in paperback. This usually results in reading the big climatic crossover well afterward, when the paperback comes out and you no longer care. As is the case here.)
March 9, 2017
Started stronger than it finished.
May 28, 2017
Y'all this was shit
September 24, 2017
You'll come for the perfectly executed takedown of key Inhumans by a carefully selected hit-squad of X-Men, you'll stay for the terrific art and high-stakes brawl between the two teams.
July 28, 2019
Charles Soule and Jeff Lemire prove themselves pretty adept at crafting a big old war story with Inhumans vs. X-Men, a six-issue miniseries event that effectively puts a pin in this era of All-New All-Different Marvel and the overarching focus on the Inhumans, an Earth covered in Terrigen Mist, and the threat it poses to mutantkind.
While it's an effective war story that sees the mutants discovering the Terrigen threat is even more disastrous than previously believed, it's the emotional resonance behind the war that really seals the deal, particularly in the last few issues as the writers tie things back into the Death of X miniseries. This puts a nice little spin on the various perspectives and machinations that led to this all-out assault, and gives us some neat character beats for a few of the central players within this war. There's also a few notes of humor that work pretty well, and a small scene involving a mind-controlled Magneto needing a potty break got a chuckle out of me, especially the look on Old Man Logan's face. Juvenile, sure, but still pretty darn funny.
One gripe I have is a relatively small one, and it revolves around Marvel's insistence at massive crossover events on the regular. Issue 5 ends on an interesting conflict between young Cyclops and Emma Frost with a big ol' TO BE CONCLUDED note and then...nothing. Issue 6 picks up as if that particular note didn't happen at all and it's never touched upon. I've got a feeling it was handled in one of the various titles (Extraordinary X-Men, All-New X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, and a spate of Inhuman comics) tying into this book, which is a shame. I recall having a similar problem with one of Dan Slott's Spider-Man events from a few years back (Spider-Verse, probably?), although it is not nearly as egregious a cash-grab. I do think that plot beats introduced in the core book should be resolved in the core book, rather than relegated to a tie-in, but Marvel's gonna do what Marvel's gonna do. Overall, it's a minor quibble in an otherwise surprisingly good event.
While it's an effective war story that sees the mutants discovering the Terrigen threat is even more disastrous than previously believed, it's the emotional resonance behind the war that really seals the deal, particularly in the last few issues as the writers tie things back into the Death of X miniseries. This puts a nice little spin on the various perspectives and machinations that led to this all-out assault, and gives us some neat character beats for a few of the central players within this war. There's also a few notes of humor that work pretty well, and a small scene involving a mind-controlled Magneto needing a potty break got a chuckle out of me, especially the look on Old Man Logan's face. Juvenile, sure, but still pretty darn funny.
One gripe I have is a relatively small one, and it revolves around Marvel's insistence at massive crossover events on the regular. Issue 5 ends on an interesting conflict between young Cyclops and Emma Frost with a big ol' TO BE CONCLUDED note and then...nothing. Issue 6 picks up as if that particular note didn't happen at all and it's never touched upon. I've got a feeling it was handled in one of the various titles (Extraordinary X-Men, All-New X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, and a spate of Inhuman comics) tying into this book, which is a shame. I recall having a similar problem with one of Dan Slott's Spider-Man events from a few years back (Spider-Verse, probably?), although it is not nearly as egregious a cash-grab. I do think that plot beats introduced in the core book should be resolved in the core book, rather than relegated to a tie-in, but Marvel's gonna do what Marvel's gonna do. Overall, it's a minor quibble in an otherwise surprisingly good event.
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