Discover what drove Pinestar, once leader of ThunderClan, to abandon the warrior code, betray his Clan, and become a kittypet.
This book was not published individually. It was released with Spottedleaf's Heart and Thunderstar's Echo in Legends of the Clans. This book was added individually to maintain formatting consistency within the series.
Erin Hunter is inspired by a love of cats and a fascination with the ferocity of the natural world. As well as having a great respect for nature in all its forms, Erin enjoys creating rich mythical explanations for animal behavior, shaped by her interest in astronomy and standing stones.
I found this to be one of the more unusual Warrior's stories. The outcome surprised me somewhat. Very enjoyable as always however I felt it was of a slightly different style.
but this! this is what i care about: Pinestar had mentioned a WindClan warrior, Talltail, from time to time, and the first question Jake had asked Pinestar today was whether he had seen the long-tailed black-and-white tom in the battle. Pinestar had assured him that Talltail had not been injured, as far as he knew.
I really appreciate how humans and house-cats are portrayed in this novella. Pinestar has a lot of compassion, and seeing him interact with Twolegs and kittypets is very endearing, especially when it causes him to challenge his world-view and consider alternate ways of living.
My main complaint with this story is how the authors try to justify Pinestar's choice to leave by involving Tigerkit and a prophecy from StarClan. It muddles the narrative, in my opinion, since Pinestar already has ample reason to leave his Clan. It also creates a kind of paradox (which is interesting but unnecessary) where Tigerclaw hates kittypets because his dad became one, while Pinestar became a kittypet in the hopes of giving his son a chance to grow into a good person.
StarClan counseling Pinestar to kill his son and prevent him from becoming evil only raises questions for me about why Pinestar thought he could help anyone by leaving. It is much more believable, in my opinion, if he wasn't thinking about his family. He doesn't seem to care about Leopardfoot very much, after all, and I would prefer it if he owned up to his decision to leave his responsibilities behind rather than doing mental somersaults to assure readers that he was also acting selflessly.
Anyway, I may have gotten a little teary eyed with Shanty's housefolk at the end, and I love Pinestar's logic behind changing his name. Before reading this novella, I wasn't too impressed with his decision to become Pine. It felt cliché and unnecessary. But hearing him lament how so much of his life was laid out for him and designated by his constantly changing name made the choice feel powerful and natural. And I'm always a sucker for the trope where grieving people find solace in one another, because they feel closer to the person they lost when they're around other people who cared for them.
Overall, my opinion of Pinestar is higher than ever, and my only real complaint is how his narrative (which can easily stand on its own) is bogged down with Tigerclaw foreshadowing. If StarClan was willing to tell Tigerclaw's own father to kill him when he was still a baby, then why didn't they warn more cats in power about the threat he posed to the forest, especially once he grew into an ambitious, blood-thirsty deputy? I'm not a fan of cats being born evil, and I'm certainly not a fan of this series bending over backwards to convince readers that Tigerclaw was destined to be a dictator from the moment he was conceived.
Premise: Having followed in his father's pawsteps to become leader of ThunderClan, Pinestar seemed to have his future set from birth. And yet, ever since his days as an apprentice, doubts about his Clan's way of life have plagued his heart and mind. The closer he gets – physically and emotionally – to the kittypets who live in the nearby Twolegplace, the more divided he feels. But it isn't until he's confronted with a threat greater than any he could imagine that Pinestar will be forced to choose between his Clan and the Twolegplace.
Story/Writing: I suspect that ever since Rusty left his life as a kittypet to become a warrior, fans have wondered if there was ever a case where it was the other way around. I myself have wondered why a Clan warrior would leave that life to go live with humans. Well, the Erin Hunter team decided to give that to us in this novella. And man, I was not disappointed! I was invested in Pinestar's story from the moment he first met Crystal. I really like how his decision to live as a kittypet isn't a spur-of-the-moment one, but came out of a combination of a series of encounters and instances when he's forced to confront how the Clans relate to each other – at least for now. That, and he's terrified of his own son. Understandable, since his son goes on to become Tigerstar, probably the baddest of all the villains in this universe. Yet what struck me as odd was that Pinestar was leaving because he wanted someone more capable to raise Tigerkit. Seems to me though that his son is in fact going to be ridiculed that his father left to become a kittypet.
Characters: As always, the characters are all great. And it's about time we got some major kittypet characters, if only in the grand scheme of things anyway. I particularly like that the authors point out the disadvantages of life as a warrior through the kittypets and Pinestar's interactions with them. Making something personal and getting us invested in it always makes it more impactful, especially considering feral cats become domestic cats all the time in the real world.
Pinestar: Pinestar is probably one of the most complex characters I've read so far in the series. He goes from a kit eager to serve his Clan to a tired cat who can no longer tolerate a life among his fellow warriors, however much they may mean to him. Even as he makes his decision to leave them, I felt like he cared about them and believed he was doing what was best. I liked that he was willing to address and say farewell to his Clan, knowing that their reactions were likely to be volatile. And while I may not have loved his decision, I love that I now understand why he left. Some would probably say it was cowardly, but to me it didn't feel either right or wrong. How would you feel if you found out your son was gonna grow up to be the greatest evil the Clans have ever known? Of course he's freaked out! It's true that he probably should've stayed as StarClan said, but as a lot of human characters do, Pinestar takes his son's capability of destroying the Clans as a certainty – when capabilities and certainties are two different things. That all said, I hope he can now have at least some peace.
Crystal, Jake, and Shanty: I'm glad we got to see some major kittypet characters. I liked how bold Crystal was, and how it fittingly followed that her son Jake became friends with Pinestar. I particularly liked the latter's friendship with Shanty. I like romance as much as the next person, but it was refreshing to have two characters of the opposite gender love the other as friends. Though her death was just awful and really sad, as the deaths in these books usually are, I liked that Pinestar went to live with her humans – probably as a way to honor her memory. On the whole, I really liked that these kittypets show both Pinestar and the reader that the life of a kittypet truly isn't all that bad. If anything, they seem happier and friendlier than the Clan cats.
Various Other Characters: While the Clan cats certainly aren't unlikable, their way of life leaves much to be desired – at least to Pinestar. I really liked how he questioned why they often fought to the point of spilling blood over small pieces of territory. I get it's an honor thing – something we humans are big on – but still. I do wish we got to see a bit more of Pinestar's relationship with his mate, Leopardfoot. And while I also wish he'd told his Clan about the warning he received from StarClan, I couldn't help but wonder if things were just gonna turn out bad either way. Other than all that though, I was really excited to see characters I recognized from the books I read years ago. And I can't wait to get to their stories!
Overall: I thought this was a fantastic story about a classic struggle of identity. The character interactions and the way Pinestar wrestles with his doubts and questions and fears were all fascinating. It was also a great setup for things to come while still being its own thing. I particularly can't wait to see how these characters' choices impact the series later on!
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Pinestar's choice was pretty problematic for me...to keep it short, the pacing was god awfull in this with HUGE time skips that took me out of the moment to where a break from reading it was required. the character development was not great, especially for Shanty. Leapordfoot and Pinestar's realationship had really no development either.
The reason I gave this an avrege rating was beacouse it was still a fairly enjoyable story. Some characters were nice to read about even if they only had small roles. there are some relatable moments with Pinestar at certain points. for example - Jake flicked the tip of his tail. "What do you mean? Have you left Thunderclan?" "yes, I have." wow. that makes it feel very real. -
The ending wrapped up nicely and I didin't feel like anything else needed to happen or be explained. And I would not mind re-reading this in the future despite its problems!
Pinestar’s Choice does a well enough job of giving the reader a look into the mind of Pinestar as well as his history leading up to his ultimate decision to leave Clan life in favor of a softer Kittypet life. However, I find myself wishing we had more time with Pinestar & Shanty. With the obviously shorter nature of the Novellas, I don’t feel as though their relationship had quite enough time to blossom, and I feel as though a stronger bond between them would have made it easier to believe that her death would send him into the arms of her former Housefolk. There is enough time with the two to get the idea across, but it could’ve only benefitted the story to have more depth in their relationship.
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This book reminded me of why I didn’t like Pinestar. I sympathise with him because he did give so much to thunderclan and leaders don’t tend to retire as elders they almost always die in battle. However the way he treated leopardfoot and his kits really just doesn’t sit right with me. I think this book shows one of the factors that caused Tigerstar to become what he is in the main arcs. Overall I believe this is a well written book with an interesting story and also introduces one of the main warrior codes.
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This would have been an amazing super edition... Instead it was condensed down into a tiny novella. I would have liked to see more of the story because a lot got skipped over. Interesting to see a clan cat choose kittypet life. I feel like it would have been big clan gossip.🤔 So it's a little weird that Pinestar isn't mentioned in Rusty/Fireheart's story.
I never expected this book to dive so deeply into Pinestar’s story. All in only ten chapters too! It describes how he went from an apprentice who was told negatively about kittypets to becoming one himself in a believable way. 10/10
This was so beautifully written and just so bittersweet. I loved every second of it. It was wonderful to see humans from the point of view of this cat.
I think that the Erin's knew what they were doing with this one. Sometimes, with the Novellas, the pacing is so awful. Yet, with this one, I think the pacing complemented the story. It is not a super edition, so it is not meant to tell Pinestar's life story. It is a novella, so it was meant to put focus on a specific aspect of his life. That being, his choice to join the kittypets.
I liked that there were scenes from his youth that shaped his mindset of why he eventually became friends with Kittypets as well as joined them.
My biggest complaint is that since it's a novella, it's short. Therefore, the focus should have been put on Shanty from the beginning. I think putting Jake in this story was an unnecessary edition and takes away from the story. If Pinestar met Shanty and their relationship (platonic, romantic, i don't care) developed during the whole 90 or so pages, rather then just at the end, it would have benefited the story so much and made the ending so much more impactful.
My other complaint is the inclusion of StarClan warning Pinestar about Tigerkit. It was so unnecessary and stupid. StarClan literally told him if he raises him then he won't be evil (something along those lines) and then Pinestar decides to leave so that he can be raised by different cats, like did he listen at all to what StarClan told him? I guess it's canon-compliant enough, but it can raise some questions as to why messages about Tigerkits' evilness were not eventually given to other cats as well. From my understanding, I do not think that Tigerclaw was born evil. He genuinely cared about the cats within his clan and loyalty and honor, but he slowly lost that faith as his desperation to be deputy took over. That triggered his horrible actions. Acting like he was evil from the start undermines that part of his character. I think this is something a lot of supereditions/novellas failed in, the unnecessary inclusion of Tigerkit/paw/claw doing evil acts, which does NOT make much sense. Yeah, it's technically canon-compliant, but it does weaken the first arc a bit.
Overall, it was an enjoyable novella but could've been way better if some weaker points were fixed.
Also, a fun fact I noticed (SPOILERS FOR OMEN OF THE STARS)
Oakstar was Pinestars father, who was Tigerstars father, who was Bramblestars father
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A very common problem with the novellas is that the pacing tends to be very fast, but honestly I don't think this book would have been better as a super edition. I do wish we could have gotten more time with Pinestar and Tigerkit interacting instead of some of the early interactions he had with kittypets as an apprentice such as the one where he was scared by one through a hole in the fence. I don't mind him meeting Jake's mother and having a connection there, but that first but just wasn't needed. We've read enough times about what apprentices have to deal with on their first day out. I don't need another just from Pinestar's perspective instead.
#1 mlm Pinestar supporter every novella, we get closer to modern era warriors I like Pinestar, actually. if I were Pinestar, I'd probably do exactly the same thing. bro just retired, give him some slack. plenty of leaders retire, he just went somewhere else
7.5/10 This is easily one of the better novellas in the series. It’s so fascinating to follow a character so disillusioned by clan life. I like Pinestar and the kittypets. It’s super cute seeing the cats love and appreciate their human friends. We don’t get enough of that in this series.
Not my favorite novella, but it wasn’t bad either. I enjoyed the cameo of Jake, Firestar’s father. Also, it was interesting to see the reaction to the prophecy about Tigerkit. Especially, knowing the future.
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J’ai bien aimé parce que ça permet de comprendre le point du vue d’Étoile du Sapin, de comprendre pourquoi il a abandonné sa vie de chef pour devenir un chat domestique. Le seul point de vue que j’avais jusqu’à présent était celui de Lune Bleue, avec lequel nous n’avons aucune explication réelle du pourquoi. Étoile de Sapin passe pour un lâche égoïste qui veut juste finir sa vie tranquillou chez les Bipèdes. Je trouve ça trop intéressant la nouvelle façon dont on perçoit les Bipèdes et les chats domestiques à travers lui. Moi-même, je n’ai jamais vraiment compris la haine contre eux (les chats domestiques), comme le présentait Griffes d’Épine par exemple. Cependant, je trouve toujours sa décision égoïste. La citation d’Herbe Folle a tout dit : « Quelle plus belle fin pourrais tu vouloir que de mourir pour ton Clan? ». Le système des Clans fait que chacun a un devoir. Les guerriers et apprentis s’occupent des anciens, et les autres prendront soin d’eux quand ils seront anciens à leur tour. Un chef ne reçoit pas 9 vies gratuitement, il doit les dédier entièrement à son Clan. C’est ce qu’Étoile de Sapin a fait pour 8 d’entres elles, mais pas pour la dernière, et rien que pour cela il ne fait pas honneur à ceux qui l’ont précédé, à son Clan et aux Clan des Étoiles. C’est une insulte de dédier sa dernière vie aux chats domestiques et aux Bipèdes, ce n’est pas digne de sa part. Cependant, Nuage Fauve a raison quand il dit « Voulons-nous vraiment d’un chef qui ne souhaite plus nous guider ? ». Par contre, je trouve ça abusé que tant de chats connaissent le potentiel cruel et dangereux de la destinée d’Étoile du Tigre et que PERSONNE n’a su l’arrêter : entre Petite Feuille, Plume d’Oie, Étoile de Sapin (et d’autres que j’oublie sûrement ou dont je n’ai pas la connaissance), plus Étoile Bleue qui a été totalement aveugle sur son comportement alors qu’il a été formé par Griffes d’Épine et qui se montre aussi excessif que lui. Étoile de Sapin se fout COMPLÈTEMENT de Patte de Léopard, je trouve ça répugnant les personnages mâle qui ne se préoccupent ni de leur compagne ni de leurs chatons (Plume de Tempête, Étoile du Tigre, c’est de vous dont je parle, et de bien d’autres malheureusement). Il est amoureux de Mélodie, c’est certain, mais il n’aurait jamais dû faire de Patte de Léopard sa compagne. Et la différence d’âge, je vomis. Je sais que les personnages sont des chats, et que la perception de différence d’âge dans un « couple » est très différente, mais ce sont des personnages très humanisés et qui collent aussi quelque part à des comportements humains. Ce livre, justement, nous le prouve : les Bipèdes et les chats domestiques sont bien plus proches des chats des Clans que ceux-ci ne le laissent entendre. Étoile du Sapin était déjà chef depuis un moment quand Patte de Léopard est née… Et il a vraiment pensé que laisser Petit Tigre sans père ni fratrie allait l’aider à le rendre meilleur et à éviter la destinée sanglante qui l’attendait ? lol Les rêves du Clan des Étoiles qui demandent à Étoile de Sapin de tuer son propre fils, c’est de trop. Jamais le Clan des Étoiles ne demanderai ça si explicitement, surtout quand il s’agit d’un chaton encore innocent.
Da ich zuvor so viele Short Adventures der Reihe gelesen habe, hatte ich beim Lesen immer direkte Vergleiche. Die letzten Novellen fand ich so extrem gut, dass ich dachte, diese hier könnte mir ebenso fantastisch gefallen. Na ja, an sich fand ich „Pinestar’s Choice“ nicht schlecht, aber meiner Meinung nach hätten die Erins daraus lieber ein Special Adventure machen sollen anstatt eine Kurzgeschichte.
Mein größer Kritikpunkt ist eigentlich, dass die Zeitsprünge teilweise extrem groß waren. Im einen Kapitel ist der Protagonist noch der Schüler Kiefernpfote, im nächsten ist er der Zweite Anführer des DonnerClans. In der Zwischenzeit ist auch nur ungefähr die Hälfte des ganzen Clans gestorben, aber was solls… So kam es mir teilweise vor, und das hat mir den Spaß am Lesen ein wenig genommen.
Vom Schreibstil der Erins kann ich aber wieder mal nur schwärmen. Ich finde, sie haben ein außergewöhnliches Talent dafür, Tiere menschlich erscheinen zu lassen und gleichzeitig ihrem Wesen treu zu bleiben. Falls sich das überhaupt so sagen lässt.
Schon in der Hierarchie sind Fehler aufgetaucht. Natürlich verstehe ich die Erins, dass sie es bei so einer kurzen Geschichte mit so großen Zeitsprüngen bevorzugen, auch erst später auftauchende Charaktere darin aufzulisten. Das hat mich aber insgesamt so stark verwirrt, dass ich erst mal in Fandom nachschauen musste, ob das so gewollt ist. So waren nämlich in der Hierarchie Charaktere aufgelistet, die am Anfang der Geschichte noch nicht mal geboren waren, und am Ende der Geschichte schon erfahrene Krieger waren. Vielleicht ist das ein bisschen verständlicher ausgedrückt, als einfach drum herum zu reden.
Kiefernsterns Charakter gefiel mir insofern ganz gut, als dass ich seine Beweggründe, den Clan zu verlassen um ein Hauskätzchen zu werden, größtenteils verstehen konnte. Größtenteils deshalb, weil einige seiner Entscheidungen für mich einfach nicht plausibel waren. Er war mir einfach zu naiv und sein Charakter ist mir zu oft zwischen dem einen und dem anderen Extrem hin- und hergesprungen, als dass ich mich wirklich mit ihm hätte anfreunden können.
Fazit
Insgesamt fand ich „Pinestar’s Choice“ schwächer als die anderen Bände, aber trotzdem nicht schlecht. Die Geschichte kann chronologisch zwischen einige andere Sonderbände der Reihe eingeordnet werden, ohne dass es zu irgendwelchen Logikfehlern kommt, nur die Umsetzung hat mir nicht ganz so gut gefallen wie bei anderen Novellen.
4.5/5✩ ¿lo voy a releer? maybe spicy:0 tiempo en el que lo leí: 3 días SAGA: Los Gatos Guerreros RESEÑA: Primero que nada "Jake" WOW, y enserio WOW. Al inicio por como lo describían creí que era Colorado, pero que Jake era su nombre de cachorro, pero me di cuenta que Jake en realidad es el padre de Colorado fue muy repentino el que Estrella de Pino y Jake se conocieron y que sus hijos o sea ya Corazón de Fuego y Garra de Tigre se enfrentarían en una batalla por el clan. Estrella Azul, verdaderamente siento que cuando Estrella de Pino se despidió del clan despertara algo en ella por querer ir al poblado de los dos patas y ahí reclutar a Colorado, ¿o es qué tuvo una visión sobre Colorado?; La visión de Pequeño Tigre, valla. Si Estrella de Pino lo hubiera dicho la primera saga hubiera sido diferente. Tal vez se mantendría muy bien vigilado a Garra de Tigre impidiendo que hiciera todo lo que hizo. Y por ultimó el que el padre de Garra de Tigre se hiciera minino casero eso explica el por qué Garra de Tigre guarda rencor a aquellos gatos. Aunque no tuviera tanto sentido ya que cuando sucedió todo eso el tan solo era un "bebé".
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Pinestar's Choice: 3.5 stars This one was good! It really was! I liked a whole lot of it, and it would have gotten four stars if it weren't for one thing... But for the good... there was a lot! Jake, for one! Books with Jake in them are always great. :) The exploring of Twolegplace and meeting Shanty was quite fun. And the series actually did something that I thought they'd never do... show that there are other good ways to live besides being a Warrior! Astounding. XD But seriously, I'm happy for Pine. It isn't really a book about him abandoning his clan, it's about him finding a place where he can be happy. Honestly, I think Gray Wing would have been proud of him... they have a lot of the same thoughts about stupid battles (which also happen to be common sense!). So much of it was wholesome and very unique for Warriors, and I liked it.
Pinestar's Choice - 5 stars This is possibly one of the best plotlines in which the protagonist breaks the warrior code in the entire Warriors universe. The Clans have rarely sympathized with kittypets, and we see this from the start of Into the Wild; in addition, most Warriors fans have probably thought, at one point or another, What would have happened if Pinestar hadn't been such a poor role model? Would Tigerclaw/star not have been so evil? In this novella, we learn to understand a cat who is meant to be leader but abandons his duty, breaking the warrior code in the process; who is overwhelmed, unprepared; who overthinks his choices; who goes against much of what the Clans stand for, and yet becomes a sympathetic character. Of the three novellas in Warriors: Legends of the Clans, this was definitely my favorite. (Also, will I see any Pinestar/Jake fanfiction, or is the Warriors fandom still too attached to shipping the latter with Tallstar?)
Pinestar: In Bluestar's Prophecy, Pinesttar was one of my most hated characters. But I think I only felt that way because us didn't understand his reasoning. After this short novella, I understand him a little better. The battles, and the harshness of life, is handled differently by all cats. Some can endure better than others, but Pinestar was tired of enduring. Tired of death. Of fighting and struggling. In the end, I think he made a great choice... the only thing I disagree with was him not warning someone of Tigerkit's bloody future.
Mistpelt: Pinestar's mentor was a very likeable cat. We don't really see much of her though.
THE BAD
Goosefeather: still not over the whole destroy the herbs and Moonflower dies, thing.
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Been a while since the Hunters have come up with a book containing buildup of such realistic and entertaining caliber. Showing the kittypet life as such an honorable and welcoming thing as opposed to the clan life really wasnt what i was expecting from pinestars choice, so im happy i finally picked it up. The only reason it didnt get five stars was the addition of tigerkit being such a threat bc of some prophercy. Despite knowing the truth well, it was hard to believe pinestar becoming so scared of his own kit. Definitly took away some of the realism of the character, but im glad it was saved at the end.
3.5/5⭐️ Getting to see the background on Pinestar’s decision and his prophecies was definitely necessary. I feel like his closeness with the house cats/“kittypets” is explained really well and it was a unique new view on the entire “kittypet” lifestyle. I really enjoyed it
Edit: Just wanted to add that I do think the writing can get a little repetitive and simplistic, but that it doesn’t bother me. Also, I know the Warriors universe has continuity issues including problems with incest (due to poor management of the characters/plotlines) and that I do find these things annoying but it is still a comfort series for me.
I liked this peek into Pinestar's head; it made his choices make more sense. But other parts of the story made me wonder just how long Jake lived. He is listed as being Firestar's father, but according to this book, he is only about a year younger than Pinestar, which is several years older than Bluestar, who is, in turn, many years older than Firestar. I suppose kittypets/housecats would live longer than Clan cats, but still. They're not immortal. It would make more sense to me if Jake was Firestar's grandfather, but whatever.
This one was pretty good. I didn’t care for all the time skipping because this could have easily been another 400 page book, but instead they chose to smash it into a short novella. However, the plot was good and it was fun to see some familiar faces mixed in with the newer characters we saw from the previous novellas.
I also didn’t like the obvious plot connection that I can’t really talk about because SPOILERS (sorry). But it felt so unnecessary. Not everything has to be connected!
Age Range: I enjoyed seeing Pinestar’s view and his thoughts behind why he chose to leave the clans and become a kittypet. It shows that he was tired and that’s something that anyone with responsibility can relate to. I was very interested in his prophecy with Tigerkit and how that went – and the way things could have been stopped… A really good book to read, even if the events were the same as Bluestar’s prophecy and Goosefeather’s Curse.