Emmanuel Levinas in conversation with Bracha Lichtenberg-Ettinger. Publish at the occasion of the exposition "Kabinet", Stedelijk museum, Amsterdam, 6 February-6 April 1997.
Bracha Ettinger is an artist and a senior clinical psychologist. She is professor of psychoanalysis and aesthetics at the University of Leeds, England, and a visiting lecturer at Bezalel Academy, Jerusalem.
What would Eurydice say ? Probably something like this :
Such loss is no loss, such terror, such coils and strands and pitfalls of blackness, such terror is no loss. Hell is no worse than your earth above the earth , hell is no worse, no, nor your flowers, nor your veins of light, nor your presence, a loss. My hell is no worse than yours, though you pass among the flowers and speak with the spirits about earth. And the flowers, if I should tell you, you would turn from your own fit paths toward hell, turn again and glance back and I would sink into a place even more terrible than this. At least I have the flowers of myself, and my thoughts, no god can take that. I have the fervour of myself for a presence and my own spirit for light ; and my spirit with its loss know this, though small against the black, small against the formless rocks, hell must break before I am lost. Before I am lost, hell must open like a red rose for the dead to pass.