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Green Arrow (2001) (Single Issues) #6-10

Green Arrow: Carcaj, Parte 2

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Carcaj, Parte 2
Publicado originalmente en Green Arrow núms. 6 a 10, de septiembre de 2001 a enero de 2002. Los miembros de la JLA están encantados de ver que su compañero de equipo, Green Arrow, ha regresado de entre los muertos, pero ¿por qué es más joven y no recuerda nada del Green Arrow que vieron morir? Quizá el demonio Etrigan tenga la respuesta, pero parece ansioso por devolver a la tumba al Arquero Esmeralda.

Flash núms. 86 y 92
Publicados originalmente en agosto de 1947 y febrero de 1948. Algunos delincuentes de los bajos fondos están enfurecidos y pagarían una fortuna por saber la identidad de la mujer que les está robando delante de sus narices. ¿Es Canario Negro una heroína o una ladrona?

144 pages, Hardcover

First published September 1, 2001

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Kevin Smith

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Kevin Patrick Smith is an American screenwriter, director, as well as a comic book writer, author, and actor. He is also the co-founder, with Scott Mosier, of View Askew Productions and owner of Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash comic and novelty store in Red Bank, New Jersey. He also hosts a weekly podcast with Scott Mosier known as SModcast. He is also known for participating in long, humorous Q&A Sessions that are often filmed for DVD release, beginning with An Evening with Kevin Smith.

His films are often set in his home state of New Jersey, and while not strictly sequential, they do frequently feature crossover plot elements, character references, and a shared canon in what is known by fans as the "View Askewniverse", named after his production company View Askew Productions. He has produced numerous films and television projects, including Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and Clerks II.

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1,047 reviews34 followers
August 10, 2020
NOTE: I read this in the original monthly issues #6 - #10.

A little mystery. A little supernatural element. It took five issues of Kevin Smith’s re-boot of Oliver Queen to get me to take notice, but by Issue #6 I’m now interested enough in this story to want to continue.
Jason Blood has identified Ollie as a “hollow”, essentially a husk or empty shell for demons to occupy and cross over to Earth. And the elderly Stanley Dover, the man Green Arrow rescued from a mugging in Issue #1 and then gratefully offered Ollie free room and board is acting suspicious and harboring some secret. Is he the Star City Slayer?
In Issue #7, GA is rescued from near death by his old pal Hal, who is now The Spectre and transports him to a hereafter place. There GA learns how he was reconstructed and meets a very familiar face.
In Issue #8 soul meets body as GA and GA engage in some friendly competition at the archery range in “heaven”. Big surprise at the end of this issue, after soulless GA returns to earth. This is getting weirder.
Satanism and the black arts are the focal point of Issue #9, as GA is about to get an unwelcome companion to take up residence within his “hollow” self. I’d never read any of the old DC Stanley And The Monster stories, but they surely were not like the origin depicted here. Smith is extra-wordy this issue, but there’s a lot of story to convey. Of course, GA is going to get saved next issue, but I’m still enjoying this.
Stanley’s Monster is kind of fun, once he makes an appearance in the final Issue #10 of the Quiver storyline. Conner Hawke to the rescue, plus a merger between the two GAs. I was not impressed with the front half of this story; but the second half more than made up for it. If you’re considering picking this up in the collected volumes, you can probably skip Volume 1 and not miss much.

Rating: THREE AND ONE-HALF STARS.
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330 reviews1 follower
February 9, 2018
Por que Jason Blood que 'levar' Oliver Queen? Um frasco com sangue do "Estrela da Manhã" (do hebraico, não citado no quadrinho), ah, aquele... temos uma homenagem a Cthulhu; referência a Crise nas Infinitas Terras; e quem é na verdade Stanley Dover? Roteiro macabro a partir do capítulo 9.
Bons traços desta vez e menos erros da nossa editora brasileira.
Profile Image for Ian.
1,333 reviews6 followers
December 5, 2020
Part of the DC Comics Graphic Novel Collection.
Here we get three stories, the first of which picks up where Part 1 of 'Quiver' left off. The resurrected Green Arrow begins to discover the metaphysical reasons that not only has he been returned to life but that demons seem to have a strong fascination for him. Reuinted with his old friend Hal Jordan, now the Spectre, Ollie also discovers the reason that so much of his life is now lost to him.
The other two stories, from the late 1940s, feature the first-ever appearance of the Black Canary and then her first-ever story in a starring role.

I have to say that I was a bit disappointed by the second part of 'Quiver'. This time around it focuses more on the supernatural side of the DC Universe, featuring the likes of the Phantom Stranger and Etrigan the Demon, and loses some of the street-level-hero vibe that makes Green Arrow compelling in the first place.
The revelations of the nature of his return was a bit underwhelming too. It boils down to him being saved by the power of friendship, which is admittedly a new idea for the resurrection of a dead hero, but not one that really has any punch to it.

With the main plot so much less compelling, the writer's Smith-isms seem more egregious, with the objectification of the female characters being the worst. Here we get a full-page scene in which Deadman takes control of Etrigan's body and then 'can't resist' the urge to force a kiss onto Black Canary because she's 'too cute for words'.
So yeah, we get a full page dedicated to a female superhero being sexually assaulted. Cheers Kevin Smith.
And this is all before we get to the villain's plan to inhabit Ollie's body and use it to rape a 15 year old girl.

The two throwback stories included here are also much worse than the one in 'Part 1', which was already pretty bad to begin with.
Whilst it's interesting from a real-world point of view to see the beginnings of the character of Black Canary, remember that they are stories being written by a man in 1940s America. Let's just say that they're not exactly of a feminist bent.
So, I guess on that point the book as a whole does have a connecting narrative. Unfortunately.

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497 reviews8 followers
October 16, 2021
Tengo que decir que la parte dos fue igual de buena que la parte uno. Spoilers por cierto

La involucración de Estrigan y de Jason Blood me gusto también la de Deadman, especialmente luego de que yo vi Justice League Dark, por lo cual ver mas acerca de esos miembros del equipo fue algo agradable.

Dinah si que paso un poco mas de tiempo en esta parte que en la parte 1 pero de todas formas creí que iba a ser mas relevante. Aun así me gusto verla con Oliver como ella estaba contenta de que el haya regresado a la vida pero aun así ella no sabía del todo como tratar con el ya que ella no había olvidado la discusión que habían tenido hace poco.

Connor si que pasó un poco mas de tiempo por lo cual me gusto verlo sobre todo ver la forma en la que el entraba en la casa de Stanley para patear los traseros de unos que otros demonios, me dan ganas de leer mas de ellos dos sobre todo por la forma en la cual ellos estaban amigándose al final, la verdad es que es un alivió ver a un hijo llevándose bien con un padre debido al hecho de que normalmente en los cómics los padres suelen llevarse mal con los hijos.

Todo el asunto de el regreso de Oliver a la vida tiene mas sentido del que esperaba, aunque no me esperaba que Hal fuera el Espectro, me gusto la forma en la que ellos interactuaron y como luego gracias a la explicación de Estrigan de que Oliver o al menos el Oliver que Hal había traído de regreso el era un hueco es decir un cuerpo sin alma. Las conversaciones entre el y el Oliver es decir el alama de Oliver en general fueron interesantes sobre todo la forma en la cual el alma de Oliver se negaba a regresar a su cuerpo pero al final Oliver logró traerlo de regreso.

También la historia de Stanley, el nieto de el y Spot fue algo que me gusto bastante, o sea no me gusto pero me resulto algo interesante y Spot habiéndose comido al abuelo demoníaco fue un final bastante bueno para todo eso.
89 reviews1 follower
April 6, 2025
God it’s so interesting seeing a post-sandman dc universe and how they reworked so many elements to fit around that reinterpretation of dc. And as interesting as that is it also forces everything to take on a much grander scale and that diminishes the inherently smaller scale of a character like Ollie and takes away from what we like about him. And also in it’s attempts to streamline a lot of the disporadic elements it kind of takes a lot away from the ambiguous elements of the dc universe that i like in particular, the sheeer variety of depictions of the afterlife and how different characters interact with it in different ways.

It still has all the good elements of the first one the writing is great (though some of the ednding speeches do feel kind of weak and and at times far too blunt) the action is dynamic and fun. The narrative whilst a little too derivative of the sandman in parts is still interesting in its reveals and the twists of its mysteries.

So overall, it is still a good comic. Its just nowhere near as good as part 1. I think the main problem is it gets way too bogged down in explaining its own convoluted lore and the main story and the more interesting characters suffer as a result of that. But still has some great moments. And is the very least an interesting snapshot into a specific era of comics. 6/10
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444 reviews7 followers
June 8, 2018
Carcaj es un buen comic de Green Arrow, un devolver al personaje a las colecciones habituales tras su muerte, y de hacerlo con la versión alegre y distendida primigenia.

Para hacerlo el guionista crea un entramado un tanto rocambolesco y lo hace ir en paralelo con una trama de desapariciones. Haciéndolo funcionar. Y no sólo eso, sino que gestiona muy bien los sentimientos de los personajes, tanto del protagonista como de aquellos que le rodean: los que le vieron morir y le quieren se deshacen en lágrimas nada más verle.

Pero también es un comic que pide demasiada suspensión de la incredulidad por parte del lector, algunas de las explicaciones parecen pilladas por los pelos (aunque lógicas dentro del universo Dc de la época). Son de esas que te crees y tiras para no cargarte el ritmo del tebeo, pero que intentas no pensar demasiado.

Con esto creo que queda un comic bastante divertido, que serviría para acercarse al personaje si no fuera por la cantidad de personajes que salen y la de guiños que hay a momentos pasados de su historia reciente. Con lo que hay no puedo recomendarlo a menos que tengáis cierto bagaje en Dc o conozcáis un poco al personaje y sus circunstancias.

A mí me ha gustado, creo que es un buen comic, pero también creo que no es para todo el mundo.
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901 reviews16 followers
August 14, 2018
La explicación por la que vuelve Ollie es bastante inusual, por decirlo de alguna manera, bastante rebuscada, y supongo que también original. Algunas cosas están traídas un poco por los pelos o hay algunas cosas que quedan con explicaciones un poco flojas de papeles. Por ejemplo, Connor, el nuevo Green Arrow hijo de Oliver Queen que vive en un monaasterio alejado de la civilización en donde no tienen televisión, en un momento se para y dice "¡Mi padre necesita ayuda!", un padre que hasta donde el sabe está muerto. ¿Supongo que tiene poderes místicos?

En fin más allá de esas cosas, la historia me gustó y me parecio interesante, Smith logra meter un montón de situaciones y personajes, y de alguna forma tiene sentido. Quizá lo que me hace ponerle menos puntaje es que el "giro" de la trama se ve venir desde el principio, y eso le quita un poco de impacto a la revelación.
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169 reviews
July 11, 2021
This one is goes in such weird directions. There were some scenes and conversations that I liked, but the religious aspects are just plain weird. The Stanley and the Satanistic cult thing could have been an interesting exploration about the rise of the cults among the middle class in the US, and how much more worse they could be in a world where superpowers and demons existed, but it just came from the left field and was abrupt, and hammed in.
The way Oliver was brought back into life, I think didn't need a monster of the week story to share its screentime with. Older Ollie who died to save people talking with his youger self, who has not lived through so many of his experiences is good enough on its own. There are two stories here that should have had their own issues separate from each-other.
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215 reviews
November 27, 2022
Si los primeros cinco números de Green Arrow Carcaj nos traían de nuevo al héroe urbano, esta segunda parte nos muestra toda la parte fantástica con Etrigan, Hal Jordan-Spectre, el demonio sin nombre, la ausencia del alma, y la redención final.
Todo cierra para que finalmente Kevin Smith y Phil Hester nos traigan a la continuidad a un renovado Green Arrow que tenía mucho para dar.
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129 reviews10 followers
August 29, 2017
The story line whilst not exactly original for DC, was actually quite interesting. However the ending didn't pan out as I expected and took a dark turn. I find that DC often use their magical characters to get out of having to explain something, as that's how the ending felt.
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87 reviews
July 17, 2021
A smart, surprising, funny conclusion to Kevin Smith’s Quiver storyline.
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521 reviews4 followers
March 21, 2022
Demasiado jalado de los pelos, pero, interesante el mundo creado. Buen dibujo
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7,077 reviews36 followers
May 15, 2021
Segunda parte de Carcaj, que además incluye la historia corta de Green Arrow y Black Canary de Moore y Janson que nunca pude completar con en las revistas de Zinco.
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