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Marvel Knights: Yellow, Blue, Gray & White #4
Capitão América: Branco
Para Steve Rogers, a parte mais difícil de ser um homem fora do seu tempo, é não ter o seu melhor amigo. E quando o Capitão América confronta essa perda, mergulhará nas memórias de um tempo mais simples, e mais a preto e branco, o tempo da Segunda Guerra Mundial… com Bucky Barnes ao seu lado, e com os Comandos Selvagens logo atrás, a arriscarem as suas vidas e a lutarem contra a mais terrível das ameaças. Jeph Loeb e Tim Sale revisitam os dias de glória do Capitão América e Bucky, num conto clássico de uma amizade forjada na guerra. Jeph Loeb e Tim Sale são uma das mais aclamadas duplas de criadores de comics de sempre, responsáveis por sagas tão conhecidas como “O Longo Halloween” ou “Superman for all Seasons”. Para a Marvel, criaram uma série brilhante de contos que revisitam o passado e os amores e amizades de alguns dos mais icónicos heróis da Casa das Ideias: “Homem-Aranha – Azul”, “Demolidor – Amarelo”, “Hulk – Cinzento” e este “Capitão América – Branco”.
Compila CAPTAIN AMERICA: WHITE #0-5.
Compila CAPTAIN AMERICA: WHITE #0-5.
160 pages, Hardcover
First published November 15, 2016
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Jeph Loeb
1,589 books1,374 followersJoseph "Jeph" Loeb III is an Emmy and WGA nominated American film and television writer, producer and award-winning comic book writer. Loeb was a Co-Executive Producer on the NBC hit show Heroes, and formerly a producer/writer on the TV series Smallville and Lost.
A four-time Eisner Award winner and five-time Wizard Fan Awards winner (see below), Loeb's comic book career includes work on many major characters, including Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Hulk, Captain America, Cable, Iron Man, Daredevil, Supergirl, the Avengers, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, much of which he has produced in collaboration with artist Tim Sale, who provides the comic art seen on Heroes.
A four-time Eisner Award winner and five-time Wizard Fan Awards winner (see below), Loeb's comic book career includes work on many major characters, including Spider-Man, Batman, Superman, Hulk, Captain America, Cable, Iron Man, Daredevil, Supergirl, the Avengers, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, much of which he has produced in collaboration with artist Tim Sale, who provides the comic art seen on Heroes.
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June 19, 2021
I'm very new to Captain America. Seen some movies, read a few comics. But I know the common elements of Cap's character and story, which Sale expectedly incorporates here (both compliment and complaint, if you couldn't tell). World War II 4F teen boy volunteers for "super soldier" experiment. Childhood friend Bucky Barnes. Nazis, Hitler, and super villain Red Skull. Patriotism. One liners. That's the gist.
Loeb's writing is usually good, and this is no exception. The dialog is great, honest and real, true to character. The plot is solid, well paced, no complaints. But like all of Loeb and Sale's books, it follows a formula. It's short, sort of out of continuity, and has a clear beginning, middle and end. It's bittersweet, nostalgic, and predictable. It was entertaining, like all their books, don't get me wrong. But there's no grit, no heartbreak, no strong connection to the characters. I mean, people die, but it's just something that happens, ya know?
I'm really not a huge fan of Sale's artwork, nor for Captain America. He's a skilled illustrator, but he's a one trick pony and his one trick doesn't work for everything. He's cartoony and lacks the realism for serious human anatomy. Because everyone looks anatomically rough, with those angular limbs, downcast eyes, and linear mouths, just like his Batman books. In fact, Cap kept looking like Batman to me in Long Halloween. I just think there are other illustrators like Steve McNiven (Brubaker's run) who better capture that stunning sense of glory and heroism through their pencils and colors.
So the writing is good, particularly the dialog, but the story is a little underwhelming. It's good, I just wanted more. I mean, it's Nazis. I wanted a sinister Hugo Weaving Red Skull and bloodthirsty Nazis. But Loeb doesn't do bloodthirsty. And Sale doesn't do sinister. Sale is okay here, like always, even pretty at moments, but his one trick style is wearing on me. Cap fans and new readers will enjoy this, just don't expect the world from it.
February 21, 2017
I will preface this by explaining why I simply do not understand why this book exists.
To me, the purpose of the color series is that the main character is writing/recording messages for these people that are lost to them in some way. Matt talks to Karen Page who has died. Peter records a message for Gwen Stacy who has died. Bruce Banner writes a letter to Betty who, while not dead, is lost to him forever. The messages are always messages of regret and that is what makes them so tragic.
So, why write a story where Steve talks to Bucky, who is not only alive but at this point, they were on okay terms with each other. What was the point? Even weirder, we are expected to put ourselves in 1963 when Cap first came out of the ice if we want this tale to have any sort of impact. It's just strange and completely unrealistic.
Now, onto the actual story:
I get why Bucky is an important character to Cap. He remains Cap's tie to the past and he was the one that inspired Cap to keep going when he lost hope. The problem is, we really get the most interesting part of their dynamic in Brubaker's run.
This book does a terrible job of making me care about Bucky. He is, essentially, a child sidekick but that doesn't mean he can't be interesting. He stumbles across Steve changing out of his Cap uniform and becomes his partner. He has no real arc aside from wanting Cap to believe in him. As much as I can tell, his significance to Cap in this book is that he hero worshiped him? He was always there even after Cap lied to him? He knew Cap the best? What is it? This book does a shit job of telling you.
There is not enough material to make an entire story here. It should have been a long one-shot comic. Trying to stretch this out was the downfall of this book because there simply wasn't enough to fill the pages. Instead of telling the story of the beginning, middle and end of the relationship, the way all of the other books do, Captain America: White tells the middle and... more of the middle. It's the story of how Bucky found out Steve was Cap, how he became Bucky with a montage of missions and ends with a story in France.
Another note, the narrative is the bare bones element of what makes these books work. They're essentially 5-6 issue long monologues and if the narrative doesn't work, it's just tedious. Steve's narrative is so bland in this book. At times, it felt like there were placeholder dialogue boxes and Loeb never went back to add substance. Steve can come across as very one note if you don't bother to emphasize how he's feeling and this book just doesn't do that. This is a letter to Bucky about his regrets and no part of it was compelling. The weight and passion behind Cap's regret just doesn't come across in his narrative. It feels so hollow and honestly, a bit shallow. Edit: I will say this, the first issue is a lot more in line with the quality of the other books in the color series but it goes downhill from there.
The story with the Frenchwoman, Marilyne, paints Cap in a horrible light. Her village was taken over and victimized by Nazis. She has every right to wish them dead and here Cap is to tell the actual victims of the war that they're supposed to show mercy? Bullshit. The book ends with him being justified because the "French will deal with the Nazis, and Cap will save the world." The only way this works if if it's meant to foreshadow what comes later where Steve and Bucky die but the war is won. Except, I don't think that's what Loeb intended.
It's worth mentioning there are some weird, gross connotations made in this book about Steve and Bucky's relationship. Bucky is an underaged orphan and people are making jokes about him and Cap being lovebirds. The beginning refers to them as soulmates. It's odd. Made worse by the fact that people often get the wrong idea about them because they've only seen the films but that is tantamount to shipping Batman with Robin. Please, don't.
Bucky has spunk and charisma here but this doesn't do the leg work the same way Spider-Man: Blue and Daredevil: Yellow do to explain Bucky's good qualities. It's all about camaraderie and loyalty and I don't know who Bucky is aside from an ambitious kid. So, when Bucky dies, the "tragedy" is that he shouldn't have been out in WWII in the first place. All of Steve's regrets are that he shouldn't have had Bucky out there and he should've trained him better. This is a one-shot. It's not a complex concept that required this many issues.
There are obvious comparisons between Bucky Barnes and Jason Todd because they both die and get resurrected as darker, antagonistic characters. However, Jason Todd is a little bit better done because he died in a much more tragic way. A better way to tell this story would have been to have made this book around the time the Winter Soldier arc was happening and to make it more about Bucky being used as a tool. Why not focus on Steve's regrets over Bucky being turned into the Winter Soldier? It's a much more interesting dynamic and Brubaker's run has fantastic material to draw from. The Winter Soldier arc is the most tragic part of his history yet Loeb decided to focus on his days as Bucky? Why? It's the least compelling time period of Bucky Barnes' history.
Tl;dr:
Ultimately, this book fails because it missed what makes the other books in the color series great. The narrative is bland and hollow, it doesn't really delve into what makes Bucky great and Bucky is not lost to Steve forever. The true tragedy of his death doesn't resonate because you end this book knowledgeable that Steve could go see Bucky immediately after he finished this message.
And if they were going to go with a non-romantic love filled with love, regret and tragedy, why not use Iron Man? The character that was so crucial to Cap's life, who's friendship was so important that Marvel decided to write an entire Civil War arc surrounding them fighting each other. This is a relationship in which they are truly lost to each other for the time being because they were on terrible terms at this time.
Go back and read Spider Man: Blue. You're captivated from those first few pages by Peter's voice and the nostalgia in his words. Maybe what makes that work is that it's about a true love interest. The rest of the color series is not about a paternal/fraternal relationship, it's a a heartfelt romance. There is that added layer that truly makes it work. Perhaps if this book was about Sharon it would be more effective. Cap's a little luckier than Iron Man in terms of having a love interest that you can fill six issues of a comic about.
Ugh, I felt absolutely nothing reading this.
To me, the purpose of the color series is that the main character is writing/recording messages for these people that are lost to them in some way. Matt talks to Karen Page who has died. Peter records a message for Gwen Stacy who has died. Bruce Banner writes a letter to Betty who, while not dead, is lost to him forever. The messages are always messages of regret and that is what makes them so tragic.
So, why write a story where Steve talks to Bucky, who is not only alive but at this point, they were on okay terms with each other. What was the point? Even weirder, we are expected to put ourselves in 1963 when Cap first came out of the ice if we want this tale to have any sort of impact. It's just strange and completely unrealistic.
Now, onto the actual story:
I get why Bucky is an important character to Cap. He remains Cap's tie to the past and he was the one that inspired Cap to keep going when he lost hope. The problem is, we really get the most interesting part of their dynamic in Brubaker's run.
This book does a terrible job of making me care about Bucky. He is, essentially, a child sidekick but that doesn't mean he can't be interesting. He stumbles across Steve changing out of his Cap uniform and becomes his partner. He has no real arc aside from wanting Cap to believe in him. As much as I can tell, his significance to Cap in this book is that he hero worshiped him? He was always there even after Cap lied to him? He knew Cap the best? What is it? This book does a shit job of telling you.
There is not enough material to make an entire story here. It should have been a long one-shot comic. Trying to stretch this out was the downfall of this book because there simply wasn't enough to fill the pages. Instead of telling the story of the beginning, middle and end of the relationship, the way all of the other books do, Captain America: White tells the middle and... more of the middle. It's the story of how Bucky found out Steve was Cap, how he became Bucky with a montage of missions and ends with a story in France.
Another note, the narrative is the bare bones element of what makes these books work. They're essentially 5-6 issue long monologues and if the narrative doesn't work, it's just tedious. Steve's narrative is so bland in this book. At times, it felt like there were placeholder dialogue boxes and Loeb never went back to add substance. Steve can come across as very one note if you don't bother to emphasize how he's feeling and this book just doesn't do that. This is a letter to Bucky about his regrets and no part of it was compelling. The weight and passion behind Cap's regret just doesn't come across in his narrative. It feels so hollow and honestly, a bit shallow. Edit: I will say this, the first issue is a lot more in line with the quality of the other books in the color series but it goes downhill from there.
The story with the Frenchwoman, Marilyne, paints Cap in a horrible light. Her village was taken over and victimized by Nazis. She has every right to wish them dead and here Cap is to tell the actual victims of the war that they're supposed to show mercy? Bullshit. The book ends with him being justified because the "French will deal with the Nazis, and Cap will save the world." The only way this works if if it's meant to foreshadow what comes later where Steve and Bucky die but the war is won. Except, I don't think that's what Loeb intended.
It's worth mentioning there are some weird, gross connotations made in this book about Steve and Bucky's relationship. Bucky is an underaged orphan and people are making jokes about him and Cap being lovebirds. The beginning refers to them as soulmates. It's odd. Made worse by the fact that people often get the wrong idea about them because they've only seen the films but that is tantamount to shipping Batman with Robin. Please, don't.
Bucky has spunk and charisma here but this doesn't do the leg work the same way Spider-Man: Blue and Daredevil: Yellow do to explain Bucky's good qualities. It's all about camaraderie and loyalty and I don't know who Bucky is aside from an ambitious kid. So, when Bucky dies, the "tragedy" is that he shouldn't have been out in WWII in the first place. All of Steve's regrets are that he shouldn't have had Bucky out there and he should've trained him better. This is a one-shot. It's not a complex concept that required this many issues.
There are obvious comparisons between Bucky Barnes and Jason Todd because they both die and get resurrected as darker, antagonistic characters. However, Jason Todd is a little bit better done because he died in a much more tragic way. A better way to tell this story would have been to have made this book around the time the Winter Soldier arc was happening and to make it more about Bucky being used as a tool. Why not focus on Steve's regrets over Bucky being turned into the Winter Soldier? It's a much more interesting dynamic and Brubaker's run has fantastic material to draw from. The Winter Soldier arc is the most tragic part of his history yet Loeb decided to focus on his days as Bucky? Why? It's the least compelling time period of Bucky Barnes' history.
Tl;dr:
Ultimately, this book fails because it missed what makes the other books in the color series great. The narrative is bland and hollow, it doesn't really delve into what makes Bucky great and Bucky is not lost to Steve forever. The true tragedy of his death doesn't resonate because you end this book knowledgeable that Steve could go see Bucky immediately after he finished this message.
And if they were going to go with a non-romantic love filled with love, regret and tragedy, why not use Iron Man? The character that was so crucial to Cap's life, who's friendship was so important that Marvel decided to write an entire Civil War arc surrounding them fighting each other. This is a relationship in which they are truly lost to each other for the time being because they were on terrible terms at this time.
Go back and read Spider Man: Blue. You're captivated from those first few pages by Peter's voice and the nostalgia in his words. Maybe what makes that work is that it's about a true love interest. The rest of the color series is not about a paternal/fraternal relationship, it's a a heartfelt romance. There is that added layer that truly makes it work. Perhaps if this book was about Sharon it would be more effective. Cap's a little luckier than Iron Man in terms of having a love interest that you can fill six issues of a comic about.
Ugh, I felt absolutely nothing reading this.
December 18, 2019
3.5 stars
"Meanwhile, the State Department released this footage about the one soldier everyone's talking about - guys want to be like him, gals just want to be with him. The Sentinel of Liberty! The man who is going to kick Hitler right in the 'Japantz'! Captain America!" -- the newsreel narration from the opening pages
Although not quite as effective as the excellent Spider-Man: Blue (also by the dynamic duo of Loeb & Sale, and their Daredevil: Yellow was nearly as good), White mostly worked for me purely with the nostalgia factor. I loved reading the fictional WWII exploits of Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandoes as a youngster over thirty years ago via back issues, so to have this storyline depicting Cap & Bucky accompanying the initially-skeptical squad for the first time on a mission was just gravy, baby. Lots of stylish artwork (Sale's signature) depicting the kick-ass action helped salvage the so-so plot.
"Meanwhile, the State Department released this footage about the one soldier everyone's talking about - guys want to be like him, gals just want to be with him. The Sentinel of Liberty! The man who is going to kick Hitler right in the 'Japantz'! Captain America!" -- the newsreel narration from the opening pages
Although not quite as effective as the excellent Spider-Man: Blue (also by the dynamic duo of Loeb & Sale, and their Daredevil: Yellow was nearly as good), White mostly worked for me purely with the nostalgia factor. I loved reading the fictional WWII exploits of Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandoes as a youngster over thirty years ago via back issues, so to have this storyline depicting Cap & Bucky accompanying the initially-skeptical squad for the first time on a mission was just gravy, baby. Lots of stylish artwork (Sale's signature) depicting the kick-ass action helped salvage the so-so plot.
September 23, 2019
The fourth of Loeb and Sale's color books for Marvel. The story suffers from being put off for 7 years. (The 0 issue came out in 2008 and the rest in 2015). The main story features Cap and Bucky teaming up with Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos. Cap's voice in the book drives me nuts. It makes him sound like he's Bucky's mother. He's so whiny and treats Bucky like a delicate little flower. There's no partnership there at all. Tim Sale has changed his art some here, as a homage to Jack Kirby I'm guessing.
March 8, 2023
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Recently I have decided that I will read a comic a month, so that it is mixed in with my usual reading. The latest graphic novel to the collection, which at the moment is very small, is White, by Jeph Loeb. I read Home of the Brave, also following Captain America, and enjoyed it enough to pick up another, but hoped that there would be a bit more character depth in this tale. I am glad to say that there was.
Captain America has been taken out of the ice, and has awoken in the modern day. In this comic, he recounts how he met and trained Bucky, and talks about some of their tales together, whilst he himself highlights many of his regrets throughout the stories. It was really well done, with a lot of emotion, as Cap is feeling isolated without everything he has ever known, and is coming to grips with life without the rocks of his past, one of those being his young friend Bucky.
I really enjoyed the added nature of retrospection, and the melancholic tone this reflects, especially with the relationship between Bucky and Captain America himself, which is done very well. Enjoyed this a lot!
My personal BookTube channel - William Gwynne
Recently I have decided that I will read a comic a month, so that it is mixed in with my usual reading. The latest graphic novel to the collection, which at the moment is very small, is White, by Jeph Loeb. I read Home of the Brave, also following Captain America, and enjoyed it enough to pick up another, but hoped that there would be a bit more character depth in this tale. I am glad to say that there was.
Captain America has been taken out of the ice, and has awoken in the modern day. In this comic, he recounts how he met and trained Bucky, and talks about some of their tales together, whilst he himself highlights many of his regrets throughout the stories. It was really well done, with a lot of emotion, as Cap is feeling isolated without everything he has ever known, and is coming to grips with life without the rocks of his past, one of those being his young friend Bucky.
I really enjoyed the added nature of retrospection, and the melancholic tone this reflects, especially with the relationship between Bucky and Captain America himself, which is done very well. Enjoyed this a lot!
June 28, 2016
This latest instalment of Loeb & Sale's 'colour' mini-series' wasn't a bad book but it didn't grab me as much as the others.
I think the problem was that it was narrated by a Captain America who was still grieving for his lost partner, Bucky, and we're reading it in a world where Bucky's been back for so long now that the impact can't help but be diminished by this knowledge.
Still, it remains a decent enough WWII era Cap story and is enjoyable enough from that angle.
I think the problem was that it was narrated by a Captain America who was still grieving for his lost partner, Bucky, and we're reading it in a world where Bucky's been back for so long now that the impact can't help but be diminished by this knowledge.
Still, it remains a decent enough WWII era Cap story and is enjoyable enough from that angle.
June 25, 2020
Just great.
November 6, 2023
Jeph Loeb ve Tim Sale’in 11 yılda bir arpa boyu kadar yol kat edemediğinin ispatı, can sıkıcı saçma sapan bir çizgi roman.
Marvel Renkler denen bu seri, genelde estetik anlayışı yerlerde seyreden, edebiyatı ise soyu tükenmiş bir yumuşakça türü zanneden ana akım çizgi roman okuyucusu tarafından oldukça beğenilen, insanın sinirini bozacak kadar tembelce ve beceriksizce yazılmış, yaratıcılarının olası her şeyi yüzüne gözüne bulaştırdığı bir seri. Ve bu muhteşem ikili, yıllar sonra geri döndükleri, “yoğun ilgi üzerine” devam ettirdikleri hikayede yeteneksizliği bir adım öteye taşıyorlar.
Öncelikle kitap, daha önce kendi koyduğu son derece düşük çıtaların dahi altında kalmayı becermiş, zemin seviyesini yeniden şekillendirmiş. Önceki kitapları biraz toplayan, hikayecilik adına hafifçe övebileceğimiz veya “ama bak şu da güzel olmuş” diyebileceğimiz ne varsa onu da elemiş. Serinin önceki kitaplarına biraz ite kaka da olsa ekledikleri, epistolary anlatıyı kurgunun içine yedirme çabasına bu kez zahmet bile etmemiş herifler. Spider-man’de Gwen hakkında ses kaydı, Daredevil’de Karen’a yazılmış mektup ve Hulk’da olan olaylar hakkında terapistle yapılan bir konuşma biçiminde kitaba eklenmiş olan narasyon için bir gerekçe uydurmamış bu kez Loeb, Steve Rogers dümdüz konuşuyor "vay Bucky, canım Bucky" diye. Önceki kitaplarda başarısız da olsa ucundan hafifçe gözüken romantik ton ise, aptalca bir şeyler geveleyen adam zırvalamalarına dönüşmüş bu sefer.
Kitap ikinci dünya savaşı sırasında geçiyor. Bucky, Steve Rogers’ın Kaptan Amerika olduğunu öğreniyor. Tayt giyip, sidekick olarak kaptana katılıyor, Fransa’ya gidip Redskull önderliğindeki nazilere karşı savaşıyorlar(?). Tam bir vasat olan Bucky, bir boku beceremiyor, hiç anlamadığım bir drama yaşanıyor. Kaptan "üzülme ya yaparsın" falan diyor. Bu sırada anlatıcı Steve Rogers da “benim yüzümden, ühü ühü benim yüzümden” diye ağlıyor ama ney onun yüzünden öğrenemiyoruz kitapta. Sonra bunların uçakları düşüyor, Paris’e gidiyorlar, RedSkull meğersem Louvre’a, Eyfel kulesine falan hep bomba döşemiş, sonra hiçbir şey olmuyor, kaptan yine “benim yüzümden” diye ağlıyor, sonra bugüne dönüyor, biraz daha ağlıyor, gidip anıt kırıyor, sonra siktir olup gidiyor! Kitap bu!
Gerçekten deli yazmış gibi bir kitap. Daha doğrusu yazmak yerine taslağını çıkarıp bırakmışlar gibi. Olan biten her şey yarım yamalak. Şaşırmış John Travolta gibi etrafa bakınıyorsunuz bitirince, sonra da sinir basıyor insana.
Kurguyu ilerletmek için eklediği neredeyse her şey aptalca. Amerikalıların uçağı düşüyor okyanus üstünde, Kaptan kayboluyor, Bucky nefesini tutarak dalıp okyanus tabanından bulup çıkarıyor adamı. Sanki başka biri yazmış oraya kadar da Loeb devam etmek zorundaymış gibi, ne kadar saçma tercihler bunlar. Kurguyu sen yazıyorsun, okyanusa düşmüşlerdi yazmamak elinde, dibe batıyordu, yarı yoldan çıkardı yazmak elinde. Ama hayır; Bucky, burnunu tutup dibe dalıyor, okyanus tabanından baygın kaptanı çıkarıyor. Aşmaları gereken bir dağ var, Kaptan diyor ki etrafından dolaşmak yerine doğrudan dağa tırmanacağız. Niye lan, beyinsiz misin sen? Aksini söyleyen korkaktır diyor, altı yaş zekası. Dağın tepesine çıkıyorlar, karikatür çizimler eşliğinde tanklı manklı Nazi birliği bunları yakalıyor, silahlarını alıyor Naziler bunların. Sonra Nazileri yumruklayarak dövüyor Amerikalılar... Aşırı iyi yürekli olduklarından da bağlayıp bırakıyorlar bu arada, savaştaki Nazi birliğini öldürülmüyorlar, aşağı atalım diyene fırça çekiyor Kaptan. Sonradan karşılaştığı Fransız Partizanlarını falan shameliyor “niye Nazi öldürdünüz?” diye Hitler ajanı provokatör köpek!
Bucky karakteri ise oldukça zayıf ve insanda zerre empati duygusu yaratmıyor. Devamlı “bana biraz güvensen aslında ne güzel olacak Kaptan?” diye dolaşıyor. İnsanı duygusal olarak etkileyebilecek en ufak bir unsur taşımıyor, derdi dert değil, varlığının bir anlamı yok. Gerçek bir sorunu olmadığı için de Kaptan’ın sorumluluk tripleri boşa düşüyor. Bucky daha çok flörtüne naz yapan liseli kız gibi davranıyor. Hikaye boyunca bir karakter değişimi de geçirmiyor bu arada; A’dan B’ye bir mental yolculuğu yok, mal gelip mal gidiyor. Marvel’in bu kadar para ve zaman harcadığı, uğruna filmler yaptığı Bucky, bu çizgi romanda o kadar lüzumsuz ki kitap sadece insanın zamanını boşa harcamasına yarıyor. Haliyle, sıfır duygusal yatırımla devam etmeye mahkum olan hikayenin aptalca sahneleri iyice insanın gözüne batıyor.
Elbette kitap vasat bir Amerikancı/emperyalist ishal bir zihinden sızarak şekillendiği için, yeni sömürgeci fikirlerden nasibini alıyor. Farklı ırkların çizimleri özellikle rahatsız edici. Nazilere karşı savaşan Fransızların hepsi weirdo ve freak, çünkü Loeb’in Fransız algısına göre sadece bu tip “marjinal Fransız unsurları,” “kahraman Amerikan Askerleri” ile birlikte savaşma onuruna sahip olabilir. Geri kalan Fransızlar, Amerikalılar’ın gelip onları kurtarmasını bekliyor. Tüm ırkçı Fransız Stereotipleri de aynen kullanılmış, Fransız kadınları “nazlı ama sonuçta yola gelen orospu,” erkekleri ise “özünde iyi ama korkak veya hain.”
Devamlı bomboş “Nazileri Amerika yendi, biz geldik ve Avrupa’yı kurtardık” zırvalaması var, tarih bilmez, uslanmaz, arsız halk düşmanları sizi! Bunu da hiç “alternatif tarih yazıyoruz” biçiminde yapmıyor bu arada, Amerika’nın soğuk savaş sırasında dolaşıma soktuğu ve milyarlarca dolar harcayarak pompaladığı anti-sovyet propaganda retoriğini tekrarlayarak yapıyor. Paris’i kurtarmak için kendimizi feda edeceğiz falan diyor Kaptan (etmiyor gerçi) Standart öküz Amerikan propagandasının bir iki seviye ötesinde bir cahillikte seviye.
Bir yandan da devamlı underage Bucky’nin, Steve Rogers’ın “boy toy”u olduğuna dair göndermeler var. Hatta diğer askerler bu konuda şakalar yapıyor, Steve dalgın dalgın ufka bakıyor. Eksik olan romantizmi bu biçimde mi ikame etmeye çalışmış, dostluk arkadaşlık yazmaya çalışırken yazarın eli götüne mi kaçmış hiç anlaşılmıyor ama sonuç itibariyle çocuğa yöneldiği için rahatsız edici olan gereksiz bir homoerotizm, kitaba herhangi bir katkıda bulunmadığı halde sonuna kadar varlığını koruyor, çizimlerle de destekleniyor.
Kitapta güya bir Nick Fury var ama o kaptandan daha da aptal. Komiklik olsun diye birbiriyle kavga eden askerler var, gargamel kılıklı adam var, güldür güldür gibi ortalık. Maceranın sonu ise gerçekten ayarsız kötü. Kitap fon olarak kullandığı macerayı da saçma sapan bir şekilde bitiriyor. RedSkull Bucky’i yakalamış, direkt bebeyi kesip etrafı patlatabileceği yerde Kaptan’a diyor ki “nihahah arkadaşın elimde, Paris’e de HEB bomba koydum, hangisini kurtaracaksın bakalım nihaha.” Hiçbirini patlatmıyor ama, mal gibi bekliyor ki Kaptan motosikletiyle Eyfel Kulesine çıkıp yumruklasın. Hiçbirini patlatmıyor da, o arada Bucky zeplin falan bıçaklıyor. Zeplinden atlıyor tenteye düşüyorlar, sonra diyor ki Furry "hee patlatamadı demek o arada, verilmiş sadakamız varmış" Böyle yazınca ben uyduruyorum gibi duruyor ama gerçekten oluyor bunlar. Bu kadar büyük bir zaman kaybını gerçekten açıkladığıma inanamıyorum.
Diyaloglar orta okul çocuğu tarafından yazılmış gibi.
Hikayenin üstünde konuşan Steve’in de derdi nedir belli değil bu arada. Deli sikmiş gibi Steve. Bucky’nin yaşı tutmuyor diye mi mutsuz pis herif, hiç anlaşılmıyor ama fevkalade anlamsız bir tripte devamlı. Üstelik bu narasyon, devam eden hikayeye de (hikaye denebildiği kadarıyla) uymuyor. “Tek bir adam değişiklik yapabilir diye düşünmemiz naif miydi?” diye soruyor, o sırada Redskull yumrukluyor. Biz savaşmazsak kim savaşacak falan diyor, lan bir bok da yapmıyorsunuz ki etrafta dolaşıp adam yumrukluyorsunuz.
Çizimler yine vasat seviyesinde dolaşıyor. Asla “bu muhteşem biz çizim” dedirtmiyor Tim Sale ve yine zaman zaman karikatürleşen üslubun yersiz kullanımı bu kitapta da okurun peşini bırakmıyor. Ama serinin diğer kitaplarına göre daha az hata içeriyor ve skandal ölçüsünde kötü paneller, net biçimde çirkin sayfalar pek yok bu sefer. Loeb zaman geçtikçe daha beter olsa da en azından Tim Sale eşit ölçüde kötü çizmiyor. Yine de günü kurtarmaya yetecek bir yetenekten söz edemeyiz asla.
İlk üç kitabın aksine bu mürekkep ve kağıt israfı zırvalık bizde yayınlanmamış, oysa Marmara Çizgi bayılır yayınlanacak onlarca güzel çizgi roman varken gidip en dandiğini seçmeye veya yarım bıraktıkları onca kitap, baskısı bitmiş çizgi roman varken nerede lüzumsuz, boktan, bir şey var bulup çıkarmaya; bu sefer gözden kaçmışlar demek, çevrilmemiş bu kitap güzide dilimize. O yüzden bu kez son derece vasat çeviriden bahsedemeyecek olmanın burukluğunu yaşıyorum içimde.
Sonuç itibariyle asla olmamış, her açıdan kötü, çizgi roman adı altında çıkması utanç verici bir kitap; emeği geçen herkesin battaniyesinin yatağın kenarına sıkıştırılarak hareketsiz hale getirilmesi, çoraplara sarılmış sabunlarla gecenin karanlığında dövülmesi gereken bir kitap bu. Sırf yarım iş yapmayayım, başlamışken tüm seriyi okuyup yorumlayayım diye giriştim ama gerçekten pişman oldum bu kitaba ayırdığım her bir dakikaya.
Bu arada serinin geri kalanında da hayli zayıf ve ahmakça kullanılan renk üzerinden sembolizm, artık sırf laf olsun diye, kitap seriye itelensin diye var. Captain America beyaz değil kırmızı veya mavi olsa da en ufak bir şey değişmezmiş. Renk mevzusu zaten çizgi romanın içinde asla anlaşılmıyor, kitabın sonunda dangalak dangalak konuştukları kısımlarda yaptıkları açıklamalar ise içler acısı. Ama belki de en kötüsü, bu iki geri zekalının kendilerini nimetten saydıklarını, dev aynasında gördüklerini anlamak. Gerçekten de ortaya çıkan saçmalığın iyi olduğuna inanıyorlar, muazzam bir şuursuzluk bu, yersiz bir özgüvenin insanı ne kadar komik duruma düşürebildiğinin örneği adeta. “Bundan sonra Renkler serisinde hangi kahramanı, hangi reng ile eşleştirerek taşıyacakları” üzerinden yaptıkları gizem ise tek kelimeyle acıklı. Yine de bir faydam dokunsun, konuya yapıcı bir yaklaşımım olsun isterim. Serinin beşinci kitabı olarak benim nacize önerim, “Jeph Loeb: Bok Rengi”dir.
Serinin tüm kitapları - incelemeleri
(bkz: Daredevil: Sarı YBGW #1)
(bkz: Spider-Man: Mavi - YBGW #2)
(bkz: Hulk: Gri - YBGW #3)
(bkz: Captain Amerika: White YBGW #4)
Marvel Renkler denen bu seri, genelde estetik anlayışı yerlerde seyreden, edebiyatı ise soyu tükenmiş bir yumuşakça türü zanneden ana akım çizgi roman okuyucusu tarafından oldukça beğenilen, insanın sinirini bozacak kadar tembelce ve beceriksizce yazılmış, yaratıcılarının olası her şeyi yüzüne gözüne bulaştırdığı bir seri. Ve bu muhteşem ikili, yıllar sonra geri döndükleri, “yoğun ilgi üzerine” devam ettirdikleri hikayede yeteneksizliği bir adım öteye taşıyorlar.
Öncelikle kitap, daha önce kendi koyduğu son derece düşük çıtaların dahi altında kalmayı becermiş, zemin seviyesini yeniden şekillendirmiş. Önceki kitapları biraz toplayan, hikayecilik adına hafifçe övebileceğimiz veya “ama bak şu da güzel olmuş” diyebileceğimiz ne varsa onu da elemiş. Serinin önceki kitaplarına biraz ite kaka da olsa ekledikleri, epistolary anlatıyı kurgunun içine yedirme çabasına bu kez zahmet bile etmemiş herifler. Spider-man’de Gwen hakkında ses kaydı, Daredevil’de Karen’a yazılmış mektup ve Hulk’da olan olaylar hakkında terapistle yapılan bir konuşma biçiminde kitaba eklenmiş olan narasyon için bir gerekçe uydurmamış bu kez Loeb, Steve Rogers dümdüz konuşuyor "vay Bucky, canım Bucky" diye. Önceki kitaplarda başarısız da olsa ucundan hafifçe gözüken romantik ton ise, aptalca bir şeyler geveleyen adam zırvalamalarına dönüşmüş bu sefer.
Kitap ikinci dünya savaşı sırasında geçiyor. Bucky, Steve Rogers’ın Kaptan Amerika olduğunu öğreniyor. Tayt giyip, sidekick olarak kaptana katılıyor, Fransa’ya gidip Redskull önderliğindeki nazilere karşı savaşıyorlar(?). Tam bir vasat olan Bucky, bir boku beceremiyor, hiç anlamadığım bir drama yaşanıyor. Kaptan "üzülme ya yaparsın" falan diyor. Bu sırada anlatıcı Steve Rogers da “benim yüzümden, ühü ühü benim yüzümden” diye ağlıyor ama ney onun yüzünden öğrenemiyoruz kitapta. Sonra bunların uçakları düşüyor, Paris’e gidiyorlar, RedSkull meğersem Louvre’a, Eyfel kulesine falan hep bomba döşemiş, sonra hiçbir şey olmuyor, kaptan yine “benim yüzümden” diye ağlıyor, sonra bugüne dönüyor, biraz daha ağlıyor, gidip anıt kırıyor, sonra siktir olup gidiyor! Kitap bu!
Gerçekten deli yazmış gibi bir kitap. Daha doğrusu yazmak yerine taslağını çıkarıp bırakmışlar gibi. Olan biten her şey yarım yamalak. Şaşırmış John Travolta gibi etrafa bakınıyorsunuz bitirince, sonra da sinir basıyor insana.
Kurguyu ilerletmek için eklediği neredeyse her şey aptalca. Amerikalıların uçağı düşüyor okyanus üstünde, Kaptan kayboluyor, Bucky nefesini tutarak dalıp okyanus tabanından bulup çıkarıyor adamı. Sanki başka biri yazmış oraya kadar da Loeb devam etmek zorundaymış gibi, ne kadar saçma tercihler bunlar. Kurguyu sen yazıyorsun, okyanusa düşmüşlerdi yazmamak elinde, dibe batıyordu, yarı yoldan çıkardı yazmak elinde. Ama hayır; Bucky, burnunu tutup dibe dalıyor, okyanus tabanından baygın kaptanı çıkarıyor. Aşmaları gereken bir dağ var, Kaptan diyor ki etrafından dolaşmak yerine doğrudan dağa tırmanacağız. Niye lan, beyinsiz misin sen? Aksini söyleyen korkaktır diyor, altı yaş zekası. Dağın tepesine çıkıyorlar, karikatür çizimler eşliğinde tanklı manklı Nazi birliği bunları yakalıyor, silahlarını alıyor Naziler bunların. Sonra Nazileri yumruklayarak dövüyor Amerikalılar... Aşırı iyi yürekli olduklarından da bağlayıp bırakıyorlar bu arada, savaştaki Nazi birliğini öldürülmüyorlar, aşağı atalım diyene fırça çekiyor Kaptan. Sonradan karşılaştığı Fransız Partizanlarını falan shameliyor “niye Nazi öldürdünüz?” diye Hitler ajanı provokatör köpek!
Bucky karakteri ise oldukça zayıf ve insanda zerre empati duygusu yaratmıyor. Devamlı “bana biraz güvensen aslında ne güzel olacak Kaptan?” diye dolaşıyor. İnsanı duygusal olarak etkileyebilecek en ufak bir unsur taşımıyor, derdi dert değil, varlığının bir anlamı yok. Gerçek bir sorunu olmadığı için de Kaptan’ın sorumluluk tripleri boşa düşüyor. Bucky daha çok flörtüne naz yapan liseli kız gibi davranıyor. Hikaye boyunca bir karakter değişimi de geçirmiyor bu arada; A’dan B’ye bir mental yolculuğu yok, mal gelip mal gidiyor. Marvel’in bu kadar para ve zaman harcadığı, uğruna filmler yaptığı Bucky, bu çizgi romanda o kadar lüzumsuz ki kitap sadece insanın zamanını boşa harcamasına yarıyor. Haliyle, sıfır duygusal yatırımla devam etmeye mahkum olan hikayenin aptalca sahneleri iyice insanın gözüne batıyor.
Elbette kitap vasat bir Amerikancı/emperyalist ishal bir zihinden sızarak şekillendiği için, yeni sömürgeci fikirlerden nasibini alıyor. Farklı ırkların çizimleri özellikle rahatsız edici. Nazilere karşı savaşan Fransızların hepsi weirdo ve freak, çünkü Loeb’in Fransız algısına göre sadece bu tip “marjinal Fransız unsurları,” “kahraman Amerikan Askerleri” ile birlikte savaşma onuruna sahip olabilir. Geri kalan Fransızlar, Amerikalılar’ın gelip onları kurtarmasını bekliyor. Tüm ırkçı Fransız Stereotipleri de aynen kullanılmış, Fransız kadınları “nazlı ama sonuçta yola gelen orospu,” erkekleri ise “özünde iyi ama korkak veya hain.”
Devamlı bomboş “Nazileri Amerika yendi, biz geldik ve Avrupa’yı kurtardık” zırvalaması var, tarih bilmez, uslanmaz, arsız halk düşmanları sizi! Bunu da hiç “alternatif tarih yazıyoruz” biçiminde yapmıyor bu arada, Amerika’nın soğuk savaş sırasında dolaşıma soktuğu ve milyarlarca dolar harcayarak pompaladığı anti-sovyet propaganda retoriğini tekrarlayarak yapıyor. Paris’i kurtarmak için kendimizi feda edeceğiz falan diyor Kaptan (etmiyor gerçi) Standart öküz Amerikan propagandasının bir iki seviye ötesinde bir cahillikte seviye.
Bir yandan da devamlı underage Bucky’nin, Steve Rogers’ın “boy toy”u olduğuna dair göndermeler var. Hatta diğer askerler bu konuda şakalar yapıyor, Steve dalgın dalgın ufka bakıyor. Eksik olan romantizmi bu biçimde mi ikame etmeye çalışmış, dostluk arkadaşlık yazmaya çalışırken yazarın eli götüne mi kaçmış hiç anlaşılmıyor ama sonuç itibariyle çocuğa yöneldiği için rahatsız edici olan gereksiz bir homoerotizm, kitaba herhangi bir katkıda bulunmadığı halde sonuna kadar varlığını koruyor, çizimlerle de destekleniyor.
Kitapta güya bir Nick Fury var ama o kaptandan daha da aptal. Komiklik olsun diye birbiriyle kavga eden askerler var, gargamel kılıklı adam var, güldür güldür gibi ortalık. Maceranın sonu ise gerçekten ayarsız kötü. Kitap fon olarak kullandığı macerayı da saçma sapan bir şekilde bitiriyor. RedSkull Bucky’i yakalamış, direkt bebeyi kesip etrafı patlatabileceği yerde Kaptan’a diyor ki “nihahah arkadaşın elimde, Paris’e de HEB bomba koydum, hangisini kurtaracaksın bakalım nihaha.” Hiçbirini patlatmıyor ama, mal gibi bekliyor ki Kaptan motosikletiyle Eyfel Kulesine çıkıp yumruklasın. Hiçbirini patlatmıyor da, o arada Bucky zeplin falan bıçaklıyor. Zeplinden atlıyor tenteye düşüyorlar, sonra diyor ki Furry "hee patlatamadı demek o arada, verilmiş sadakamız varmış" Böyle yazınca ben uyduruyorum gibi duruyor ama gerçekten oluyor bunlar. Bu kadar büyük bir zaman kaybını gerçekten açıkladığıma inanamıyorum.
Diyaloglar orta okul çocuğu tarafından yazılmış gibi.
RedSkull: the American Dream
RedSkull: Always thinking you can rush in and save the day. As Paris falls, so Falls the World!
Bucky: Take him, Cap!
Captain America: I’ll take my dream over your Nightmate any time.
Hikayenin üstünde konuşan Steve’in de derdi nedir belli değil bu arada. Deli sikmiş gibi Steve. Bucky’nin yaşı tutmuyor diye mi mutsuz pis herif, hiç anlaşılmıyor ama fevkalade anlamsız bir tripte devamlı. Üstelik bu narasyon, devam eden hikayeye de (hikaye denebildiği kadarıyla) uymuyor. “Tek bir adam değişiklik yapabilir diye düşünmemiz naif miydi?” diye soruyor, o sırada Redskull yumrukluyor. Biz savaşmazsak kim savaşacak falan diyor, lan bir bok da yapmıyorsunuz ki etrafta dolaşıp adam yumrukluyorsunuz.
Çizimler yine vasat seviyesinde dolaşıyor. Asla “bu muhteşem biz çizim” dedirtmiyor Tim Sale ve yine zaman zaman karikatürleşen üslubun yersiz kullanımı bu kitapta da okurun peşini bırakmıyor. Ama serinin diğer kitaplarına göre daha az hata içeriyor ve skandal ölçüsünde kötü paneller, net biçimde çirkin sayfalar pek yok bu sefer. Loeb zaman geçtikçe daha beter olsa da en azından Tim Sale eşit ölçüde kötü çizmiyor. Yine de günü kurtarmaya yetecek bir yetenekten söz edemeyiz asla.
İlk üç kitabın aksine bu mürekkep ve kağıt israfı zırvalık bizde yayınlanmamış, oysa Marmara Çizgi bayılır yayınlanacak onlarca güzel çizgi roman varken gidip en dandiğini seçmeye veya yarım bıraktıkları onca kitap, baskısı bitmiş çizgi roman varken nerede lüzumsuz, boktan, bir şey var bulup çıkarmaya; bu sefer gözden kaçmışlar demek, çevrilmemiş bu kitap güzide dilimize. O yüzden bu kez son derece vasat çeviriden bahsedemeyecek olmanın burukluğunu yaşıyorum içimde.
Sonuç itibariyle asla olmamış, her açıdan kötü, çizgi roman adı altında çıkması utanç verici bir kitap; emeği geçen herkesin battaniyesinin yatağın kenarına sıkıştırılarak hareketsiz hale getirilmesi, çoraplara sarılmış sabunlarla gecenin karanlığında dövülmesi gereken bir kitap bu. Sırf yarım iş yapmayayım, başlamışken tüm seriyi okuyup yorumlayayım diye giriştim ama gerçekten pişman oldum bu kitaba ayırdığım her bir dakikaya.
Bu arada serinin geri kalanında da hayli zayıf ve ahmakça kullanılan renk üzerinden sembolizm, artık sırf laf olsun diye, kitap seriye itelensin diye var. Captain America beyaz değil kırmızı veya mavi olsa da en ufak bir şey değişmezmiş. Renk mevzusu zaten çizgi romanın içinde asla anlaşılmıyor, kitabın sonunda dangalak dangalak konuştukları kısımlarda yaptıkları açıklamalar ise içler acısı. Ama belki de en kötüsü, bu iki geri zekalının kendilerini nimetten saydıklarını, dev aynasında gördüklerini anlamak. Gerçekten de ortaya çıkan saçmalığın iyi olduğuna inanıyorlar, muazzam bir şuursuzluk bu, yersiz bir özgüvenin insanı ne kadar komik duruma düşürebildiğinin örneği adeta. “Bundan sonra Renkler serisinde hangi kahramanı, hangi reng ile eşleştirerek taşıyacakları” üzerinden yaptıkları gizem ise tek kelimeyle acıklı. Yine de bir faydam dokunsun, konuya yapıcı bir yaklaşımım olsun isterim. Serinin beşinci kitabı olarak benim nacize önerim, “Jeph Loeb: Bok Rengi”dir.
Serinin tüm kitapları - incelemeleri
(bkz: Daredevil: Sarı YBGW #1)
(bkz: Spider-Man: Mavi - YBGW #2)
(bkz: Hulk: Gri - YBGW #3)
(bkz: Captain Amerika: White YBGW #4)
July 23, 2016
Very good! So in 2008 we got a #0 of Captain America white, a great story, by legendary team Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale, and then silence!!! What followed was FAQs that Tim and Jeph probably got tired of, where is Captain America: White #1? Fast forward seven years later, and Marvel now decide to publish the comic! Was it worth the wait? Well I think so! So first off this is, a flash back world war 2, Cap and Bucky comic, so no spies or espionage, or anything that modern day Cap Comics are! This is a good old, lets punch Nazi's comic; and for the most part its pretty good! Artwork by Tim Sale is always amazing! And ya, read this comic!
November 7, 2016
A fun throwback to older WW2 Cap stories. The story was really light and easy to digest but on the same hand the art is pretty simple and I think it is meant to match the throwback style. Cap has just become a war hero and accidentally reveals his identity to a young Bucky. He then recruits him to become his sidekick and they travel around kicking Nazi Butt. Nick Fury is still enlisted and he crosses paths with Cap and Bucky but he isnt a fan. Over the coarse of the story they help rescue France from the Red Skull and there are some flash forward moments to modern Cap morning the loss of Bucky. It is meant to basic story nothing more and it does it well. Wasn't a huge fan of the art but it goes with the story so I was o.k. with it/
February 24, 2016
A decent WWII story that retells a little of how Cap and Bucky met and developed their relationship. The art is the strong point of this book IMHO. Many of the panels could stand on their own as art pieces.
April 28, 2016
Not as strong as the other colour books, I don't think anything will beat Spider-man: Blue (for me anyway), but still an enjoyable read from the Loeb/Sale team.
July 28, 2025
A moving tribute to Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes, Captain America: White explores heroism, loss, and memory through Loeb’s emotionally resonant narration and Tim Sale’s bold, evocative art. Framed as a letter from Cap to Bucky, the story flashes back to their earliest WWII missions, highlighting the bond that defined them both.
If you loved Spider-Man: Blue, Daredevil: Yellow, or Hulk: Gray, this is a worthy and heartfelt companion—nostalgic, reflective, and beautifully rendered. A timeless take on a timeless hero.
If you loved Spider-Man: Blue, Daredevil: Yellow, or Hulk: Gray, this is a worthy and heartfelt companion—nostalgic, reflective, and beautifully rendered. A timeless take on a timeless hero.
February 23, 2018
Not quite as good as Loeb's previous 'Color" stories.
December 16, 2016
Captain America: White by Loeb and Sale is part of the collection of Marvel characters, matched with colors that Loeb and Sale collaborated on. There was Spider-Man Blue and Daredevil Yellow, both of which were well written and conceived tales. The theme in these books seems to be to revisit a tragic loss in the life of the main superhero. For Spidey it was Gwen Stacey, for Daredevil it was Karen Page and for Captain America, it is of course, Bucky.
It is 1941 and as the war wages on, a young boy finds out the secret identity of America's greatest hero. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Rogers decides to train the young boy and turn him into his junior partner and together, Captain America and Bucky fight the Nazi threat. But as the War wages on, Germany strengthens its grip on Paris and Captain America and Bucky must join Sgt. Nick Fury and his Howling Commandos to fight the Red Skull and the Nazi occupation of Paris, France.
Though the tale of the mission is old fashioned Captain American and the Nick Fury before SHIELD and turning into Samuel L Jackson, the true story is in the reminiscing of Captain America for those days. The guilt and second thoughts in training the boy Bucky and his eventual death in the service of his country. This tale of loss is central to the theme of these books.
However, in Captain America: White, the stoic and powerful persona of Captain America simply does not lend itself to such a story. In Spider-man Blue you get it in the tears Peter Parker sheds over the death of his first true love. In the dark tragedy of Daredevil and Karen Page, it is in the inability of DD to save Karen. But Bucky died in a war, in service to his country, like many others. It could be argued that he survived as a young boy much longer because he was at the Captain's side and trained by Captain America.
The other item of course is that during these overly sensitive times, pairing America's greatest super hero with the color white just didn't sit well with some in the comic book community.
but in truth, the real issue with this book is that it is just not that good. Definitely far below the quality we all know that the team of Loeb and Sale are capable of delivering.
Collecting CAPTAIN AMERICA: WHITE #0-5.
It is 1941 and as the war wages on, a young boy finds out the secret identity of America's greatest hero. Steve Rogers is Captain America. Rogers decides to train the young boy and turn him into his junior partner and together, Captain America and Bucky fight the Nazi threat. But as the War wages on, Germany strengthens its grip on Paris and Captain America and Bucky must join Sgt. Nick Fury and his Howling Commandos to fight the Red Skull and the Nazi occupation of Paris, France.
Though the tale of the mission is old fashioned Captain American and the Nick Fury before SHIELD and turning into Samuel L Jackson, the true story is in the reminiscing of Captain America for those days. The guilt and second thoughts in training the boy Bucky and his eventual death in the service of his country. This tale of loss is central to the theme of these books.
However, in Captain America: White, the stoic and powerful persona of Captain America simply does not lend itself to such a story. In Spider-man Blue you get it in the tears Peter Parker sheds over the death of his first true love. In the dark tragedy of Daredevil and Karen Page, it is in the inability of DD to save Karen. But Bucky died in a war, in service to his country, like many others. It could be argued that he survived as a young boy much longer because he was at the Captain's side and trained by Captain America.
The other item of course is that during these overly sensitive times, pairing America's greatest super hero with the color white just didn't sit well with some in the comic book community.
but in truth, the real issue with this book is that it is just not that good. Definitely far below the quality we all know that the team of Loeb and Sale are capable of delivering.
Collecting CAPTAIN AMERICA: WHITE #0-5.
May 29, 2021
This was such a great book and is about Steve's letter to his friend Bucky about their beginnings and how they started out and him finding him being Cap and then becoming Bucky, training him, teaming with Howling Commandos on mission and that chemistry with Fury and Dugan and their mission to France during 1941 where they met Cirque De La Revolution and this woman called Marliyn aka the Gypsy and their attempt to get the Nazis out of France and fighting Red Skull and their big encounter with them and the stuff that followed afterward and in present. Its such an emotional tale of friendship and revitalizes Cap's origin in the modern times and shows the importance of Bucky in keeping Cap grounded and Sale's artwork is so good, the way he switches the lines and the inks help it plus the way he draws the scenes of the 1940s and war makes you feel nostalgic.
October 12, 2016
Bucky :(
March 14, 2020
Es extremadamente aburrido.
Apoyo la idea de añadirlo a esta serie de colores y hablar de la amistad y la perdida, pero este tomo desperdicia demasiado lo que pudo ser un "Captain America: RED" que nos hablara de las calamidades de la guerra.
Añade varios elementos donde no se profundiza, la aventura principal es aburridísima y carece de esta melancolía que si tuvieron las historias de Daredevil, Spiderman y Hulk.
Si no tenían ganas de añadir un personaje más, debieron dejar la serie de los colores como trilogía.
Apoyo la idea de añadirlo a esta serie de colores y hablar de la amistad y la perdida, pero este tomo desperdicia demasiado lo que pudo ser un "Captain America: RED" que nos hablara de las calamidades de la guerra.
Añade varios elementos donde no se profundiza, la aventura principal es aburridísima y carece de esta melancolía que si tuvieron las historias de Daredevil, Spiderman y Hulk.
Si no tenían ganas de añadir un personaje más, debieron dejar la serie de los colores como trilogía.
April 1, 2022
Want to read the story of Captain America and his partner Bucky? This is a story of World War Two, fighting fascism, camaraderie and memories of those who died. I picked up this graphic novel because whenever the writer Jeph Loeb and the artist Tim Sale team up they typically give readers a great story and wonderful nostalgic artwork that gives a historical mood. I thought this book is really good and in the same vein as Loeb and Sale’s previous titles that I enjoyed: Batman: The Long Halloween, Superman for All Seasons and Daredevil Legends, Vol. 1: Yellow.
The story in this book begins with Captain America waking up in modern time after being frozen for decades after a World War Two accident. He wakes up in Rip Van Wrinkle fashion where things have changed dramatically: World War Two is over and Bucky is no longer around. So much of this story is Captain’s America reflecting back on the past of his friendship with Bucky, with explanation of how Captain America eventually have this young side kick by his, beginning with the accidental discovery of Captain America’s identity by Bucky to the friendship and bigger brother sentiments that Captain America has for his junior partner. I thought this story really capture the feelings those who are military service members feel towards fellow service members in combat. Man Loeb and Sale really do explore human nature and the human condition in their graphic novels! Yet this story also capture the rivalry and complex relationship with other soldiers with the Howling Commandos as a foil contrasting with Bucky’s relationship with Captain America. A big portion of the book are the US soldiers secret missions to France to fight Fascism specifically against the Nazi’s Red Skull. I love how the book explore the maturing growth of Captain America from idealism to being more aware of the difficulties of those who might not enjoy the luxury of naïve idealism; yet one doesn’t get the sense that Captain America lost any of his bedrock core of values and principles. In some sense Captain America is someone we ought to strive to grow into.
A wonderful story and I must say its my first “Captain America” story I read and I’m thoroughly impressed. 5 out of 5, I highly recommend it!
The story in this book begins with Captain America waking up in modern time after being frozen for decades after a World War Two accident. He wakes up in Rip Van Wrinkle fashion where things have changed dramatically: World War Two is over and Bucky is no longer around. So much of this story is Captain’s America reflecting back on the past of his friendship with Bucky, with explanation of how Captain America eventually have this young side kick by his, beginning with the accidental discovery of Captain America’s identity by Bucky to the friendship and bigger brother sentiments that Captain America has for his junior partner. I thought this story really capture the feelings those who are military service members feel towards fellow service members in combat. Man Loeb and Sale really do explore human nature and the human condition in their graphic novels! Yet this story also capture the rivalry and complex relationship with other soldiers with the Howling Commandos as a foil contrasting with Bucky’s relationship with Captain America. A big portion of the book are the US soldiers secret missions to France to fight Fascism specifically against the Nazi’s Red Skull. I love how the book explore the maturing growth of Captain America from idealism to being more aware of the difficulties of those who might not enjoy the luxury of naïve idealism; yet one doesn’t get the sense that Captain America lost any of his bedrock core of values and principles. In some sense Captain America is someone we ought to strive to grow into.
A wonderful story and I must say its my first “Captain America” story I read and I’m thoroughly impressed. 5 out of 5, I highly recommend it!
July 11, 2016
I didn't enjoy this as much as some of the others in the Loeb/Sale "color series." It is some stories of early Cap/Bucky Adventures with Sergeant Fury and his Howling Commandos. It was enjoyable enough, just nothing special.
October 22, 2015
My favourite writer artist duo doing my favourite comic book duo. Yes!!
July 4, 2016
I know this had a lot of delays but it feels super-dated. The Cap/Bucky relationship feels odd with everything that's happened in the last 10 years.
May 19, 2020
"I'm with you until the end of the line."
July 31, 2017
4.5 Stars
I've been a fan of all of the Loeb/Sale collaborations, and this one was no different. The story is set right after Cap wakes up from the ice and he is remembering a mission where he and Bucky faced the Red Skull and Baron Von Strucker in France. The Howling Commandos are there, and also someone who turns out to be Batroc's Grandfather.
A pretty straightforward Cap vs the Red Skull story with great art. As comic continuity gets more and more mired I find myself drawn to these type of stories so this was a good read for me. I think if you're a Cap fan you should check this one out.
I've been a fan of all of the Loeb/Sale collaborations, and this one was no different. The story is set right after Cap wakes up from the ice and he is remembering a mission where he and Bucky faced the Red Skull and Baron Von Strucker in France. The Howling Commandos are there, and also someone who turns out to be Batroc's Grandfather.
A pretty straightforward Cap vs the Red Skull story with great art. As comic continuity gets more and more mired I find myself drawn to these type of stories so this was a good read for me. I think if you're a Cap fan you should check this one out.
June 12, 2019
Overstretched and paper thin, "White" is nothing but Rogers brooding and moaning for pages.
Attempts at being funny with the Howling Commando falls short by a mile and for all that jazz we don't even get an interesting take on Bucky, here just another irritating sidekick.
Sloppy art to boot! I'm usually fond of Sale's art but it looks like he pastiched himself and the result is halfway ridiculous/ugly. C'mon mate, I know you can do better!
By far the weakest of the Loeb/Sale "Color" series.
Attempts at being funny with the Howling Commando falls short by a mile and for all that jazz we don't even get an interesting take on Bucky, here just another irritating sidekick.
Sloppy art to boot! I'm usually fond of Sale's art but it looks like he pastiched himself and the result is halfway ridiculous/ugly. C'mon mate, I know you can do better!
By far the weakest of the Loeb/Sale "Color" series.
July 20, 2021
Standard Loeb and Sale fare. And by that I mean excellent. It's a fun read. There's nothing here that tears the world down and shatters barriers, but it's Cap beating up Nazis and a bittersweet story of friendship. A good, quick jaunt.
March 15, 2016
Captain America: White is the latest in Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale’s color-themed series spotlighting Marvel’s iconic characters.
Captain America: White focuses on the World War II bond of Cap and his sidekick, Bucky. After briefly touching on the origin of the partnership, the story sends the duo behind the lines of occupied France. They team up with Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos and work with French resistance fighters. It culminates with a Paris-set showdown with key villains Red Skull and Baron Von Strucker. The action is framed by narration from Cap shortly after he’d come out of his deep freeze in the modern world and believed Bucky to be dead.
That Captain America: White actually was completed is something of a miracle. It was notoriously delayed for years after only a single issue had appeared. That lag probably sapped some of its thematic weight. The story itself is a fairly standard “secret mission behind enemy lines” story. Loeb scripts some nice interaction among Cap, Bucky, Nick and the Howlers and does a decent job of sketching out Cap and Bucky’s personalities and fraternal bond. There just never seem to be huge stakes at play. The story takes place in Winter 1941 and fans know full well that all the characters are emerging from this intact, so suspense is somewhat lacking. Future Cap’s narration can, at times, be a bit of drag, slipping into a maudlin tone that’s at odds with the “selfless soldier” image Marvel has worked for Steve Rogers in recent years. In the end it’s a decent, but not essential, war story.
A book like Captain America: White really lives and dies by its art. And right off the bat its hobbled by a thematic flaw. It’s called White but most of the story unfolds at night and in shadows. The closest the action comes to “white” is an interval in bluish-gray fog. That’s not the fault of ace colorist Dave Stewart, who does his usual lush color work. But it makes one question the labeling of the series. The closest to “white” the story gets is the theme of innocence, but that’s not developed especially well.
Sale can be a divisive artist. You either love his hyper-stylized take on the genre or you don’t. He does some rather lovely design work in Captain America: White. The action often takes place against a woozy fever dream, punctuated by bursts of art deco realism. Some of Sale’s figure work is quite striking. He does a memorable Nick Fury and Dum Dum Dugan, while his Strucker has a vulpine quality that’s quite appropriate. He assays Bucky with a nimble quality that communicates his acrobatic nature quite effectively and his Red Skull is as grotesque and monstrous as you’d want.
Sale’s biggest drawback is the inconsistency with which he presents the title character. At points we get a Cap who is bold and heroic, standing out against the smaller personalities around him. At other times, Cap is oddly angular and distended. At its best, Sale’s idiosyncratic approach produces some stunning images. Highlights include: a two-page splash of a recently revived Cap bursting to life against a backdrop of founding Avengers; a hazy panorama of a North African bar; Cap and company tumbling out of a plane that’s going down; the cast dwarfed by a fog-enshrouded mountain; a two-page stunner featuring Cap and his allies strategizing in corner boxes, while the Skull and Strucker address soldiers in a captive Paris; and the Skull with a captive Bucky dangling from a rope ladder with the Eiffel Tower in the background.
Captain America: White isn’t quite the timeless story it’s intended to be. But it has enough to recommend it to be worth reading at some point.
A version of this review originally appeared on www.thunderalleybcp.com
Captain America: White focuses on the World War II bond of Cap and his sidekick, Bucky. After briefly touching on the origin of the partnership, the story sends the duo behind the lines of occupied France. They team up with Nick Fury and the Howling Commandos and work with French resistance fighters. It culminates with a Paris-set showdown with key villains Red Skull and Baron Von Strucker. The action is framed by narration from Cap shortly after he’d come out of his deep freeze in the modern world and believed Bucky to be dead.
That Captain America: White actually was completed is something of a miracle. It was notoriously delayed for years after only a single issue had appeared. That lag probably sapped some of its thematic weight. The story itself is a fairly standard “secret mission behind enemy lines” story. Loeb scripts some nice interaction among Cap, Bucky, Nick and the Howlers and does a decent job of sketching out Cap and Bucky’s personalities and fraternal bond. There just never seem to be huge stakes at play. The story takes place in Winter 1941 and fans know full well that all the characters are emerging from this intact, so suspense is somewhat lacking. Future Cap’s narration can, at times, be a bit of drag, slipping into a maudlin tone that’s at odds with the “selfless soldier” image Marvel has worked for Steve Rogers in recent years. In the end it’s a decent, but not essential, war story.
A book like Captain America: White really lives and dies by its art. And right off the bat its hobbled by a thematic flaw. It’s called White but most of the story unfolds at night and in shadows. The closest the action comes to “white” is an interval in bluish-gray fog. That’s not the fault of ace colorist Dave Stewart, who does his usual lush color work. But it makes one question the labeling of the series. The closest to “white” the story gets is the theme of innocence, but that’s not developed especially well.
Sale can be a divisive artist. You either love his hyper-stylized take on the genre or you don’t. He does some rather lovely design work in Captain America: White. The action often takes place against a woozy fever dream, punctuated by bursts of art deco realism. Some of Sale’s figure work is quite striking. He does a memorable Nick Fury and Dum Dum Dugan, while his Strucker has a vulpine quality that’s quite appropriate. He assays Bucky with a nimble quality that communicates his acrobatic nature quite effectively and his Red Skull is as grotesque and monstrous as you’d want.
Sale’s biggest drawback is the inconsistency with which he presents the title character. At points we get a Cap who is bold and heroic, standing out against the smaller personalities around him. At other times, Cap is oddly angular and distended. At its best, Sale’s idiosyncratic approach produces some stunning images. Highlights include: a two-page splash of a recently revived Cap bursting to life against a backdrop of founding Avengers; a hazy panorama of a North African bar; Cap and company tumbling out of a plane that’s going down; the cast dwarfed by a fog-enshrouded mountain; a two-page stunner featuring Cap and his allies strategizing in corner boxes, while the Skull and Strucker address soldiers in a captive Paris; and the Skull with a captive Bucky dangling from a rope ladder with the Eiffel Tower in the background.
Captain America: White isn’t quite the timeless story it’s intended to be. But it has enough to recommend it to be worth reading at some point.
A version of this review originally appeared on www.thunderalleybcp.com
August 2, 2021
Tenía años que no releía esta historia pero con la aparición de la colección entera Marvel Colors en pasta dura en México decidí adquirir este tomo y darle una re lectura.
Sigo pensando que de los cuatro tomos que componen la colección, este es el más débil. Y creo que su problema principal es que el enfoque narrativo no está muy claro. En Spiderman Blue vemos cómo Peter conoce a Mary Jane y a Gwen, los conflictos amorosos entre los tres y como se enamora de Gwen y la pierde. En Daredevil es parecido pero con Karen. Y en Hulk es lo mismo pero con Betty. Aquí la historia se centra en Bucky y cómo perderlo le dolió tanto al Cap. Pero creo que pudieron haber contado una mejor historia donde se viera la relación de Cap y Bucky. Hay demasiadas cosas aquí que quitan la atención de eso: tenemos a Nick Fury y los comandos aulladores, entonces también vemos como el Cap y ellos se conocen y aprenden a trabajar juntos. También hay un escuadrón francés de artistas cirqueros y un interés amoroso para el Cap. Hay demasiados personajes y demasiadas cosas pasando.
Hubiera tenido más sentido que nos contaran con más detalle cómo se conocen. Cómo lo entrenan. Las primeras misiones, cómo se hacen amigos inseparables y cómo Bucky es tan importante para el Cap. Para después contarnos aquella misión fatídica en el castillo de Zemo. Ya sé que ese momento ya lo hemos visto antes varias veces pero hubiera sido muy bueno ver cómo le añaden su toque íntimo Loeb y Sale a eso.
Hubo algunas cosas que me gustaron un poco más ahora que la releí que la primera vez. Pero no es de mis favoritas y no sé si la volvería a leer.
Sigo pensando que de los cuatro tomos que componen la colección, este es el más débil. Y creo que su problema principal es que el enfoque narrativo no está muy claro. En Spiderman Blue vemos cómo Peter conoce a Mary Jane y a Gwen, los conflictos amorosos entre los tres y como se enamora de Gwen y la pierde. En Daredevil es parecido pero con Karen. Y en Hulk es lo mismo pero con Betty. Aquí la historia se centra en Bucky y cómo perderlo le dolió tanto al Cap. Pero creo que pudieron haber contado una mejor historia donde se viera la relación de Cap y Bucky. Hay demasiadas cosas aquí que quitan la atención de eso: tenemos a Nick Fury y los comandos aulladores, entonces también vemos como el Cap y ellos se conocen y aprenden a trabajar juntos. También hay un escuadrón francés de artistas cirqueros y un interés amoroso para el Cap. Hay demasiados personajes y demasiadas cosas pasando.
Hubiera tenido más sentido que nos contaran con más detalle cómo se conocen. Cómo lo entrenan. Las primeras misiones, cómo se hacen amigos inseparables y cómo Bucky es tan importante para el Cap. Para después contarnos aquella misión fatídica en el castillo de Zemo. Ya sé que ese momento ya lo hemos visto antes varias veces pero hubiera sido muy bueno ver cómo le añaden su toque íntimo Loeb y Sale a eso.
Hubo algunas cosas que me gustaron un poco más ahora que la releí que la primera vez. Pero no es de mis favoritas y no sé si la volvería a leer.
February 28, 2016
Just like the others in this "color" series, you have Cap thinking back to his origin while imagining himself talking to Bucky. He actually doesn't retell his origin but just about some early adventures he and Bucky had.
You get the same feeling and sentiment with this one as the others, although I'm starting to feel it become a little stale. Once again Sale's art is the highpoint, although sometimes his anatomy is a little quirkier than normal.
Anybody have any guesses on what the color white represents?
You get the same feeling and sentiment with this one as the others, although I'm starting to feel it become a little stale. Once again Sale's art is the highpoint, although sometimes his anatomy is a little quirkier than normal.
Anybody have any guesses on what the color white represents?
January 28, 2019
Gilgamesh and Enkidu. Achilles and Patroclus. Cap and Bucky?
This might not have been the take on Cap’s early adventures you were expecting, but solid assists by the irascible Sgt. Nick Fury and the über-villainy of Red Skull made for an entertaining read and a worthy continuation of the Marvel “Colors” series.
This might not have been the take on Cap’s early adventures you were expecting, but solid assists by the irascible Sgt. Nick Fury and the über-villainy of Red Skull made for an entertaining read and a worthy continuation of the Marvel “Colors” series.
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