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Dream with Me: Race, Love, and the Struggle We Must Win

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According to recent surveys and studies, race relations in the United States are the worst they've been since the 1990s, and many would argue that life for most minorities has not significantly improved since the civil rights era of the 1960s. For so many, the dream of true equality has dissolved into a reality of prejudice, fear, and violence as a way of life.

John M. Perkins has been there from the beginning. Raised by his sharecropping grandparents, Perkins fled Mississippi in 1947 after his brother was fatally shot by a police officer. He led voter registration efforts in 1964, worked for school desegregation in 1967, and was imprisoned and tortured in 1970. Through it all, he has remained determined to seek justice and reconciliation based in Christ's redemptive work.

"Justice is something that every generation has to strive for," he says. And despite the setbacks of recent years, Perkins finds hope in the young people he has met all across the nation who are hard at work, bringing about reconciliation in God's name and offering acceptance to all. Dream with Me is his look back at a life devoted to seeking justice for all God's people, as well as a look forward to what he sees as a potentially historic breakthrough for people of every race.

224 pages, Paperback

Published March 20, 2018

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John M. Perkins

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Dr. John M. Perkins is the founder and president emeritus of the John and Vera Mae Perkins Foundation and cofounder of Christian Community Development Association. He has served in advisory roles under five U.S. presidents, is one of the leading evangelical voices to come out of the American civil rights movement, and is an author and international speaker on issues of reconciliation, leadership, and community development. For his tireless work he has received 14 honorary doctorates. One Blood, along with Dr. Perkins other books, provides an enduring legacy for a man who continues to leave his mark on American culture.

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Profile Image for Darlene Nichols.
167 reviews9 followers
October 31, 2018
This book tops my list of favorite books for the year. The wisdom and perspective John M. Perkins humbly shares with his readers is truly inspiring, especially in light of recent events taking place in our country. I’ve read plenty of books on racial reconciliation from different perspectives and many have left me feeling hopeless. This book gave me a refreshed view of reconciliation through the lense of the gospel. That’s the answer. That’s our hope. Christians are called to love. Loving others the way Jesus has loved us transcends race, socioeconomics, and age. I don’t need a movement or a large group to make a difference. I can practice this right now, in my church, in my neighborhood, in my city. Everyone should read this, I can’t recommend it enough.

“I want the white police officers to be sitting next to the young black boys in church on Sundays, singing songs and praying together, learning to be members of the same family of God. I want the single black mother and the family that recently moved from Latin America to go up and take Communion together. I want the older widow who has been living out a lonely life in a nursing home, to be visited and cared for by the young man whose third-grade test scores said he would end up in prison someday. I want this to be a picture of the church. I want to see a real community of love.”
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770 reviews56 followers
February 17, 2017
I had never heard of John Perkins until my husband read a book of his last year, and recommended it to me: With Justice for All: A Strategy for Community Development. It contained a bit of his general life story, but focused on his work on community development in Mississippi. His vision for Christian reconciliation and community development was strong and compelling — I could hear his devotion and determination in his words. But I found myself thinking “This book was written thirty years ago. What would John Perkins say about things now — have we made any progress?” So of course, I jumped at the chance to review this book when I saw it was coming out.

For a bit of background, John Perkins is an African American sharecropper’s son from Mississippi. He witnessed his older brother being shot and killed by a police officer, and eventually went out to California. No one would have blamed him for staying as far away as he could from the segregated South. But after he became a Christian there, he felt God’s call to go back to his home town and help the people of Mississippi. He worked tirelessly for civil rights and was arrested, and at one point beaten and tortured by white police officers in the 70s. After all the injustice he experienced over the course of his eighty-six years, it is no wonder that he has spent his life fighting for justice. But he believes that the church should be leading that fight, and that is what I found so compelling in his vision.

Growing up a “white evangelical,” I often saw social justice as something that was left to others, more specifically those on the “left,” unless it involved abortion. I’m so grateful for John Perkins’ voice, to exhort and encourage the church to be more than it has been–to care about our neighbors enough to be intentional about reaching out and helping them. He doesn’t even have to say that he is a peacemaker and a bridge builder — I can hear it in his writing.

“You have to be a bit of a dreamer to imagine a world where love trumps hate–but I don’t think being a dreamer is all that bad. Joel prophesied that God would “pour out [His] Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions” (Joel 2:28). I’m an old man, and this is one of my dreams: that my descendants will one day live in a land where people are quick to confess their wrongdoing and forgive the wrongdoing of others and are eager to build something beautiful together.” (p. 171)

He admits that he is first and foremost a Bible teacher–we see a lot of that here as he digs into scripture to present the many passages and messages that address reconciliation, forgiveness, and love. He reminds us what we’re here for.

I love how carefully and deftly he handles the tension between both loving the church and calling the church out. He is honest enough to admit that he is often disappointed with the church and the ways we go about trying to change things (or not bothering to at all). He even admits that sometimes he isn’t very optimistic. But he always has hope and dreams that God is still working. The theme of “dream with me” is so prevalent here, even in the midst of gentle rebuke. He is inviting the church to come alongside him in his vision for not only racial reconciliation, but much broader confession, repentance, and forgiveness–being reconciled to each other and God, which he believes is at the heart of the gospel.

If you’ve read John Perkins before, you will probably notice some repeated information and ideas here, but I didn’t mind. He devotes a chapter to his “Three Rs” principle of community development: relocation, reconciliation, and redistribution (which has to do with stewardship, not socialism).

He laments that “It has often been said that church on Sunday morning is the most segregated time in America today,” (p. 45) and encourages churches to be intentional about becoming more multi-ethnic — being willing to reach across the table and compromise, rather than settling for “not excluding.”

He devotes a chapter to the life and heartbreaking death (from a heart attack in his 40s) of his firstborn son, Spencer.

I appreciate his straightforwardness and honesty, even when it comes to asking hard questions of his own life. He led the efforts to desegregate schools where he was living, and felt that it would be hypocritical to encourage others to do it without sending his own children, and so he did. Now he does not say he regrets it necessarily, but is willing to ask hard questions about how much social justice advocates can and should ask of their children — where the line is when it comes to protecting them vs. engaging them in fighting society’s ills.

John Perkins has influenced so many people, including authors Philip Yancey and Randy Alcorn (who wrote the foreword), and Jon Foreman of the band Switchfoot, who wrote a song called “The Sound (John M. Perkins’ Blues)” after reading Let Justice Roll Down Some lyrics:

This is the sound
Of a heartbeat
This is the sound
From the discontented mouths
Of a haunted nation

We are the voice of breaking down
Can you hear me?

This is the sound
Of the desperation bound
By our own collision
We are the voice of breaking down

The static comes alive
Beneath the broken skies
John Perkins said it right
Love is the final fight

Let it rise above
Rise above
There is no song
Louder than love

John Perkins has wrestled with the tension between love and justice, but confidently affirms that love is “the final fight.” If you are a Christian and have never read Perkins before, this book is a great place to start.

Disclosure: I received this book free from Baker Books through the Baker Books Bloggers www.bakerbooks.com/bakerbooksbloggers program. The opinions I have expressed are my own, and I was not required to write a positive review. I am disclosing this in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission’s 16 CFR, Part 255 http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/wa….
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318 reviews8 followers
December 28, 2022
While I don't agree with everything John believes theologically, I admire and support his fight for racial justice in the Church. It's incredible how he sees Jesus' heart for the oppressed, and has been able to bring lasting change to the comminutes he's been a part of. John's voice is a much-needed one in the Christian community.

The following are two quotes from Dream with Me that really hit me in my heart:

"My passion for life does not stop when a baby emerges from his or her mother's womb. I believe God wants us to be concerned for every life, including the lives of our young black men in jail, Mexican Immigrants (legal or not ) living in America, gay men and women, and so many others- saints and sinners."

"Some people argue that because slavery occurred more than a century ago, asking people to repent again is like beating a dead horse. I understand that but I also look around and see the legacy that slavery has left among black people- how it has damaged our sense of self-worth so severely and how other forms of bondage have risen up to take its place. We haven't fully exorcised this demon from our national soul. Until we do, our best strategy is to repent...[laws] can bring about a degree of justice, but true justice will come only as we love one another and consider one another's needs as important as our own."
Profile Image for David West.
294 reviews15 followers
August 17, 2020
John Perkins is a man I'd like to know more about. This book only hints at his story. In this book, he argues for the idea that everyone should love one another with a love that flows from the love of Christ. This is the answer to racial tension and disunity.

Perkins had many good things to say and certainly has a great passion for the cause of racial reconciliation. But a few things concerned me in the book. His definitions of justice and conversion weren't Biblically nuanced and his ideas for how the church should function in relation to racial issues seem to be a distraction from the main mission of the local church, which is to preach the Word of God.

The book gave me a few things to consider and enough interest in John Perkins and his work to dig deeper.
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305 reviews6 followers
May 23, 2020
Dr. John M Perkins is quickly becoming a mentor for me. This is my second book of his that I've read. I heard him speak at the MLK Conference and heard his story through "The Way of the Dragon The Way of the Lamb". I love him because he engages me on so many levels and passions. First, he shows the beauty of Christ in his work and writings. He understands the gospel and its implications. When he talks about love, he talks from years of experience. His motivation isn't to show the world how much he can love:

“Our lives should bear witness—not primarily to how much we love God but to how much He loves us and how our hearts have been turned because of his deep love for us” (143)

He talks about prayer as listening to God. He encourages people that hearing from the Lord is far better than simply listing off all our requests of God. I felt a greater sense of freedom in my own prayer life being reminded of this aspect of listening prayer. It has helped my intimacy with the Lord very practically.

Second, Perkins has endured the fires of a lifetime fighting for equality and he still longs to see an integrated, multiethnic church. I know Godly black brothers and sisters in Christ who feel that this work is too painful to continue doing. I don't fault them at all. It isn't their fault that the church is divided on racial lines. White Christians paved the way for this division and far too often it is only black Christians who are seeking for diversity by joining white churches. That being said, I'm amazed by the character of Dr Perkins to endure all the evil he has experienced at the hands of white Christians and still say, I think God wants to the church to be multiethnic.

“I am convinced it is God's will that the church should be integrated...the church has been given the message of reconciliation…if we are not reconciling, how can we call ourselves the church?”

Third, Perkins shows the importance of pursuing justice as Christians. He defines justice as restoring people to the original intent which God had for them. This is a Biblical vision, he's not just talking about equality but compassion and encouragement.

“the church is to be the incarnated Christ here on earth now, which means all members ought to be doing the work Christ did while He was here.” (51)

Perkins follows the pattern of Christ who descended to earth to enter into our suffering. He walked back into racist Mississippi and stood on the frontlines for justice when it meant physical and psychological suffering at every turn. He and his children brought about incredible change by walking in the way of Jesus with their neighbors when it was incredibly hard.

He cautions against those who would jump into ministry with those who are struggling simply because it is exciting or thrilling. “if you move to the inner city solely out of guilt or for the thrill of it, it almost never works out...If God calls you to a struggling community, then you must accept that life’s going to be tough.” (76) Christians should only do this if they feel a calling from the Lord to do it, but if we're listening to Christ, Perkins says, "we'll feel a calling where there is pain in society."

Another highlight from this book was hearing Perkins share about losing his son Spencer and walking through that process. I wept with him as he shared about the deep pain of losing a son. Seeing his mourning process was very real. He didn't hide his anger, frustration, and struggle. I can't imagine that pain and I appreciate his deep honesty about how hard this was for him.

Perkins would balk at being called a hero. He knows he is just a man, but he obeyed the Lord and walked with him in weakness and God's glory has been displayed through his life as a result. God help us all to learn from our brother, John M. Perkins.
Profile Image for Laura LeAnn.
142 reviews
July 28, 2018
This is Perkins' look back on the lessons he's learned over the course of his life and ministry. It is helpful to have some background about Perkins' life as there are some tidbits of that story throughout this book, but that is not the intent of this book. A quick, easy read, there are lots of good words in this book about the approach to ministry he has used and the things we as human beings can be doing to help others. When it all comes back to love and God's love for humans, if we have that as our focus, that can help guide us to the things we can be doing to show that love to our fellow humans, regardless of race, gender, etc. He doesn't get into big theological debates or issues in this book, but he doesn't shy away from the history that Christians have, particularly in the United States, as it relates to those issues either. He does discuss the problems that racism, sexism, and other -isms have had on the church in the United States and how that has shaped where the church is now. I enjoyed this book and would recommend it to others.
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75 reviews
September 16, 2020
As with Perkin’s earlier book, Let Justice Roll Down, which was written around 1976, this one (2017) addresses the need for authentic followers of Christ to live life in a less segregated way. The first book was more autobiographical, this one is more like a coach, pastor and/or teacher challenging and encouraging us to continue what he and many others have begun.

Book was written soon after racial violence in Ferguson, Missouri, Dallas, Texas and others, so very relevant to our experience today.

I like his Gospel-centered approach emphasizing humility, forgiveness and repentance for all parties involved … all have sinned and fall short. But the lion share needs to start/continue with the white evangelical church … he doesn’t say it like that. He’s hoping for and working toward change out of followers of Christ living as fully devoted followers … not out of guilt or pity.

Shoutout to Little Rockers … he references Mosaic church in Little Rock multiple times as an example of a church doing many things well.
15 reviews8 followers
October 25, 2020
I found this book convicting, enlightening, encouraging, and hopeful all at once. Perkins' calls us to a ministry of reconciliation - including, but not limited to, racial reconciliation. You won't regret dreaming with him. Do yourself a favor and read this side by side with Brian Zahnd's "Beauty Will Save the World;" they complement each other beatifully.
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35 reviews2 followers
May 15, 2019
This is a great book. I appreciate how John Perkins deals with hard truths with love and hope.
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112 reviews13 followers
June 14, 2020
“Love was always God’s motivation, which is why it must be ours as well.”

“When God’s involves, everything can change in an instant.”

“True justice isn’t something we will see until the kingdom of God comes in its fullness.”
33 reviews
February 6, 2017
Never having heard of the John M. Perkins, 'Dream With Me' served as a great introduction to someone I now consider a true American hero. Containing stories of the hardship he and others experienced before and during (as well as after) the Civil Rights era, the book at hand deals with the past and present racial tension of America, all the while maintaining a gentle tone. At times being brought to tears and at times laughing at the author’s wit and charisma, I recommend Dream With Me for the following reasons:

(1)This book is hope-filled

Having much experience with racial reconciliation, Perkins’ gentle wisdom seems to bleed onto all the pages as he offers his two-cents (which I think is very valuable) on certain issues. The book being rooted in Scripture, I agree with his assessment that if the gospel doesn’t spill over into everyday living then it’s not really the gospel. That the gospel cannot simply be about a personal salvation that carries little or no social and racial implications.

(2)This book stresses human responsibility

Too many times we use Christianity to escape from issues plaguing our world. We hide behind statements like “God is in control” when even though he is in control (that’s my opinion at least) he still calls us to actually be “present” in our world. If all we do is pray to God, go to church, and maintain our relationships with fellow Christians, it is likely we have fallen prey to an “escape from reality” mentality which is foreign to the New Testament. Perkins realizes this and points out the sin of complacency.

And (3), This Book is Relevant

Though Perkins begins by stating he is in fact no writer, it doesn’t show. But though we have plenty of well-written books, they too many times don’t deal with today’s issues, unfortunately sometimes dealing with the problems plaguing yesterday. Dream with Me is a book that those on the political left and right (and those like me who find both equally appalling) should all read with an open heart. We live in a time where so many are confused, convinced that their political party will bring heaven to earth. Many times we (myself included) have pre-programmed answers to questions before we’re even asked the questions. This book is a call to humility, a reminder that not one single person has all the right answers. We may as well stop barking (or preaching?) at one another; we owe it to the so many unknown and unnamed who, like John M. Perkins, suffered for where we are today.

*I recieved an electronic advanced manuscript from NetGalley in exchange for an honest review
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21 reviews9 followers
February 6, 2017
Coming at the end of his life in the midst of another tumultuous age in America, John M. Perkins' Dream With Me points whites and blacks alike to a better way forward. An American prophet has spoken - maybe his last written words; his people need to listen.


Book in a Nutshell: Part biography, part memoir, part theology, and part instruction, Dream With Me conveys renowned civil rights activist, Christian thinker, and preacher John Perkins' "climactic message": justice and love. The 86 year-old walks the reader through the major points of his life from his humble start as a third-grade drop out to opening his first medical center in Mississippi in the 1970's, to providing counsel to presidents, governors, and international leaders on racial issues, to handing over his ministry and teaching efforts to a new generation of leaders. Throughout the journey, Perkins shares the lessons he's learned and applies the biblical principles that have shaped his life and ministry. He offers this wisdom on the American questions of race and class and how the church should take lead in addressing these issues.

Reaction: I have never met the man, but I love John Perkins. I am thankful for his life of faithfulness and sacrifice. I am thankful for his wisdom and his willingness to tell his story. I am thankful for his boldness and his compassion. I am thankful for his firm convictions and his gentle humility.

Like anyone else who attempts to address hot-button issues like race and class, Perkins says things that will make you squirm and make you think. But at every point, Perkins addresses his readers with charity, grace, and humility.

I believe Perkins' writing gives us one of the most important messages we have be given in many years. At a time of vitriol, distrust, anger, prejudice, and rage, America is blessed to have been given this word. The way we are acting today, we do not deserve a message like this.

For the full review of Dream Like Me, click here: http://wp.me/p45L8K-uO

Quote: Neither clenched fists nor helping hands alone will bring about the complete transformation God wants... We are called to love.

Ranking: 5 of 5 stars

This one belongs on the top shelf! Dream With Me is already among my all-time favorite reads. I cannot recommend this book enough.
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December 28, 2020
Short Review: I have read just about everything that Perkins has written. This is a good addition to what he has previously written, although he also hits a number of themes he is known for as well.

This should be thought of as near end of life thoughts from an elder, similar to John Stott's Radical Disciple or Jimmy Carter's A Full Life: Reflections at 90. There isn't a lot of autobiography here, if you don't know his story already, I would read either his memoir Let Justice Roll Down or his biography (now out of print) by Stephen Beck.

The best sections are about Spencer and how his loss impacted both John Perkins and his family personally and how that impacted their ministry corporately. There is an openness and rawness in these sections that I think is important to see.

I also really like the fact that he questions his own tactics openly. He knows he had good goals, empowering people, teaching about Christ, reconciliation, etc. And he knows he serves a good God. But how he approached things (like encouraging his children to be the first to integrate schools) he is open about the fact that he is not sure he made the right decisions all the time. That openness is very helpful.

Perkins is also a good bible teachers. So I like to hear him preach.

Because he has the history he has, his words are convicting because they are not abstract. Perkins has done the work that he is encouraging the reader to do, and more.

My full review is on my blog at http://bookwi.se/dream-with-me/
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190 reviews16 followers
July 18, 2020
Not Everyone's Cup of Tea

This book came to me as a recommendation, as I read often about politics and racial/sicial justice. As someone who is not religious and who separated from Christianity long ago for various reasons, I found some bits of hypocrisy in the book. Because of the title (and even some of the summaries I read), I didn't anticipate the book to be so Jesus-focused; while John does do a great job of discussing how is faith shapes his racial justice activity, I was expecting something different -- amd definitely didn't expect references to bible verses at every turn.

With that being said, his book has given me cause to pause on my relationship (well, lack thereof) with the church as a woman of color. It by no means, gives me the desire to return, but I am left with feeling the need to write out a reflection/response about why those in my generation like myself, just don't see the Christianity he sees, and isn't sure how or if it's worth pushing it in the direction he wants it to go.
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August 26, 2020
Another wonderfully written book by Dr Perkins. In this material, Dr Perkins takes you on a journey of how God lead him into his purpose: ministry of biblical reconciliation. My hope is that the people of God would truly repent and seek God’s heart for people. Excellent read.
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25 reviews
August 27, 2017
Quite possibly one of the most profound, thought-provoking books I've ever read. Sadly I learned about this man – John M. Perkins – only in the last few years, through a @switchfoot song, actually. I wish I'd have learned about him decades ago. His approach to race, reconciliation, relocation, community and Christianity has challenged me to my very core. I will not easily forget the words in this book. Truly, "love is the final fight."
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January 1, 2020
Highly recommend this book. Here is a black man who can speak with love not rancor about Race in America. He offers a world of reason we can reach. He doesn’t hate me for the white privilege I accepted without even being aware. He reaches for my hand and leads me closer to a just and loving world.

I will read it again. I hope you do too.
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Author 35 books125 followers
March 5, 2017
I've known about John Perkins at least since seminary days in Pasadena during the 1980s. Perkins was living and working in Pasadena at the time and fellow students were involved with his Voice of Calvary ministry. While I knew a little about him and the ministry, it wasn't until I read Dream with Me that I truly put things together.

John Perkins reminds us that social justice and liberal theology don't necessarily go together. Theologically Perkins is conservative, and yet his own ministry of reconciliation is rooted in his involvement in the civil rights movement in his native Mississippi. The title touches base with Martin Luther King's dream, while the subtitle provides a way of understanding what the dream involves.

As Perkins writes, he is eighty-six years old. While this is a memoir with a message, it is clear that he's not finished with his ministry. He may be passing on the baton to an extent, he still has work to do. The essence of that ministry is connecting with younger generations who desire to overcome the divisions and stereotypes that continue to mark our communities.

Perkins has an amazing story that really begins with the shooting death of his older brother by white deputy sheriff when he was just sixteen. His brother had served honorably in the army during World War II, returning as a decorated soldier, but he did not survive his own community. Perkins writes" "My big brother, a heroic survivor of World War II, was defeated by the unspoken war at home" (p. 27). Later he would join the civil rights movement, being jailed and beaten as a result. His children were among the first to desegregate the schools in Mendenhall, Mississippi. After moving to Pasadena he experienced a conversion that led to the creation of ministries that have touched the lives of many.

This is a book about social justice. That concern has been at the heart of Perkins's ministry. However, he notes that in the end love is the climactic message of the book and the ministry. His commitment to justice and to evangelical faith has allowed him the opportunity to speak to white evangelicals, many of whom, especially among younger generations, are heeding the call to a new way of living. The theology embraced throughout is conservative evangelical. But as is often true in the Black churches, that evangelical faith is coupled with a concern for justice.

As a white left-of-center Protestant male, it is not my place to decide how Perkins should engage his ministry, which speaks both to the African American community and to White American Christians. His message is one that calls for White Christians to deal with the racism is still present, but he is not interested in engaging in angry rhetoric. There is forgiveness and love at the heart of the work, with the hope that communities might be reconciled.

It is hard to write a review of a memoir like this. You just have to read the book to get the true sense of the narrative that begins with the earliest experiences of racism, including that expressed by white police. As the journey continues, we learn that he became angry and resentful, but of course the unjust death of his brother would have created such a response.

One element of the story that is extremely important, especially now, is his experience with poor white neighbors. These people tended to be just as poor and oppressed as the Black community, but the color of their skin was used as a wedge. While having much in common with their black neighbors, they were allowed just a little bit more respect that they considered themselves superior, but that meant their natural economic allies were pushed further to the margins.

Perkins speaks here of what he calls the "three Rs," which are relocation, reconciliation, and redistribution. The first involves "living in the community where God has called you" -- for him that originally meant moving to Pasadena. It has to do with incarnation. As for the second R, that is reconciliation, which is the process by which God brings us to Godself and then keeps us. Much of the book unfolds this message. The third R is redistribution. This word is a controversial one, and Perkins states upfront that he's not talking about taking from the rich to give to the poor, but he does believe that Christians need to have a new view of resources. He writes: HOw can there not be enough to meet everyone's basic needs --- food, housing, clothing, health care, and so on?" (p. 85). This R is the driving force in the creation of the Christian Commodity Development Association. Part of Perkins' message is the problem of the welfare system to creates dependency. This will be a controversial topic, but again he speaks from with a community that has faced numerous challenges, but he believes these can be transcended, and that the church can be at the center of the process.

He writes of his son Spencer and Spencer's life and ministry of reconciliation, along with the devastating effect on him and his family when Spencer died of a heart attack while in his 40s. That theme is present throughout as well.

There is much to this story, and you just have to read it to get a sense of his own vision of ministry that brings reconciliation. He celebrates those attempts that have been made to create multi-ethnic/multi-cultural congregations. He shows us why this isn't easy, but also why it is important to pursue.

In the book's penultimate chapter, Perkins speaks of his vision of what the church will look like in the future. He writes about his fear that the church of today is known more for its divisions and emphasis on hot-button issues, than it is for living out the gospel. He notes that most people on the outside know the church more for what it condemns than what it loves -- "they hear the voice of the church speaking a language of hate, rather than a language of redemption and reconciliation" (p. 188). Now eighty-six, he envisions a new day when love not hate will mark the church's message. He envisions a church that is diverse and reflects the multi-ethnic nature of the kingdom of God. When we reach that day, then the message will break forth much more effectively.

Perkins closes by inviting the reader to dream with him. He speaks of the dream that has marked the American spirit, but which we have failed to embody. It is a dream of being a place where all people are equals and a voice. It is the dream that Dr. King announced. While it has yet to be achieved, he lives in hope that this day will come. However, he believes that to get there we'll need a new language, "one of love -- that affirms and heals, instead of wounds and destroys" (p. 203). As I've noted, this is a message that the church needs to embody, because it is the message of Jesus.

This is an important book that speaks to a number of communities. As a more liberal mainliner, I believe this book will help folks in my community better understand the hopes and dreams of our sisters and brothers who are Black, Latino, Asian. Take and read!
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85 reviews9 followers
March 12, 2019
Such a good book. Perkins personal history is so humbling. His ability to prophetically point people to the right path ahead is so helpful and encouraging. His dreaming makes you want to dream with him... and then get to work.
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March 17, 2017
`Dream With Me` is a memoir of, and written by, author John M. Perkins. John Perkins dreams of the day we win the struggles against race and love. Where African Americans and whites are living in peace with each other. His hopes are that his book will change the way Americans think. I was glad to see the forward written by an author I am familiar with, Randy Alcorn.

John Perkins spoke out for voter registration, enrolled his son in an all-white high school, and was beaten and tortured for his beliefs. He could have been full of bitterness, instead, he was full of grace toward all that had happened to him.

This book made me want to cry at the state America is in. We are supposed to be the land of the free, a melting pot of all races. Are we truly a friendly country, the land of the free?

This story is about America, my birthplace. My heart was broken at all John had gone through. How can someone go through so much and come out the other side full of grace? I would like to think I would be full of grace if such things happened to me. I wonder, as Americans, are we going to bond together and win this battle or are we going to let pride and division be our final fight (see page #31). I like the quote John used by Apostle Paul. `Christ has made peace between Jews and gentiles, and He has united us by breaking down the wall of hatred that separated us. Ephesians 2:14-16 (see page # 35).

Since I was a child in the 60's I didn't know much of what was happening. I knew whites and African Americans had different swimming holes and they lived in separate communities, rarely crossing over the imaginary lines that were drawn. To do so was shameful. My first experience of an African American in a `white` church was after I grew up and lived in Tampa. It was a real shock to me. However, I believe Jesus would invite all races to his true churches.

The author uses stories from the Bible to show how different ethnic groups are to come together through: Relocation, Reconciliation, and Redistribution. Get to know our neighbors, and our community, forgive sins and redistribute opportunities.

Disclaimer: "I was provided a free copy of this book. All opinions are my own."
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1,179 reviews12 followers
August 24, 2017
As soon as I heard about this new book by John Perkins, I knew I wanted to read it. I was not disappointed as he shared about his activities through the years and his dreams for the future. As he wrote about reconciliation in the true sense of the word, my heart responded. He stated that reconciliation is not about race but about being fully reconciled to God. As we seek to reconcile with God and allow the Holy Spirit to work in and through us, we are reconciled with His people, the human race. So many who speak of racial reconciliation, justice, equality, and so on are so angry and vehement in their approach that they push others away, just as many who declare that we already have equality, etc. keep enlarging the divide. John Perkins has more reason, humanly speaking, to be angry and vindictive than many in the forefront of the news but he is neither. He is a man who is devoted to living his life for Christ while seeking love and justice for all. Although his perception of events may not be the same as mine or yours and may sound similar to what we hear in the media, the solutions he offers are quite divergent as he seeks to let God direct his ways rather than giving in to anger and hatred. The book is well worth the time to read and digest in order to gain a perspective based on a lifetime of seeing firsthand what many of us have only seen on TV as it was presented by those who are driven by their ratings more than by a desire to spread truth. I encourage you to read the book and allow God to speak to your heart.
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321 reviews59 followers
October 18, 2023
Perkins' Dream with Me is the timely resource I didn't proactively hunt for and providentially read. Ever since working through Sharpe's Ordinary Notes twice over this year, I needed help processing some lingering feelings I've let simmer in the back of my mind. I shared some of those thoughts in a review. Anti-racism for Sharpe can seem anti-White and therefore unproductive in the end. But I couldn't see any convincing alternatives.

Through his experiences of racism as a civil rights activist, Perkins reminded me of the humanly futile task of loving one's enemies--only God can supernaturally enable one to seek the good of a person who actively antagonizes and harms you. More than being reminded, Dream with Me has persuaded me that extending love may be the harder yet more virtuous act. And while we hold human beings accountable for their sin against God and other human beings, God's command is clear and morally good.

I know Christ is the ultimate example of loving one's enemies, and I recognize it's good I realize that. But somehow knowing the two natures (human and divine) are hypostatically united in the divine person (the Son) can sometimes make it conceptually harder for me to view Christ's life exemplarily. Thus, I'm thankful for Perkins' story (and maybe I need to read more Christian biographies). It is good to love, and it is good to learn that Perkins loves because he was loved first.
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101 reviews5 followers
March 3, 2017
In a day and age where racial division seems to be increasing we could all benefit from the wisdom and insight John Perkins provides in Dream With Me.

In this work John Perkins tells the story of his life and work in racial reconciliation. Perkins faithfully paints a picture of where things were in regards to racial relationships. Perkins life was one of seeking reconciliation across race boundaries. Reading Perkins recollections brings one truth to light, the good old days never were. What one sees in Perkins life is the impact that Christ can have in working through a life surrendered to His love.

We are country that is fractured along racial and socioeconomic lines and in this work Perkins shares his hope and dream that the church would be true to what it is called to be a people of love and reconciliation in a divided world. This is a book that will challenge any reader as it should. If your heart is burdened to see reconciliation happen in churches and communities read this book. If you aren’t burdened to see that happen repent and read this book.

Disclosure: I received a copy of the book from the publisher for the purpose of reviewing it. The opinions I have expressed are my own, and I was not required to write a positive review.
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31 reviews
March 17, 2018
Excellent book on racial reconciliation, the gospel, faith, love, and what REAL community looks like. Dr. John Perkins and his wife Vera Mae have been on the frontlines of racial reconciliation for most of their lives and truly live out what they teach. There is much wisdom, inspiration and heart in this book, and Dr. Perkins has a true gift in his understanding of the gospel and his ability to share it in a beautiful way, leaving you wanting more. I would love to hear his sermons and hope to find some online.
In Chapter 11, “The Power of Forgiveness,” there is an excerpt from a speech by former Mississippi Governor William Winter that was given at an anniversary celebration honoring Dr. and Mrs. Perkins in June 2010 ... Winter shared some redemptive, powerful words and I wish that everyone in our country could hear them (and read this book ;)
Here are two sentences from Winter’s message:
“A free society cannot exist for long if too many people in that society put their own image above that of their community. So if we really love our country, we don’t have a choice but to work, to serve our neighbors—especially our less fortunate neighbors—and to build up the community in which we live.”
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309 reviews2 followers
January 18, 2021
Once in a while you read a book and go, Oh Wow! Not because it is great writing or what you think is a great wisdom, but because of the life of the person writing it. This is that kind of a book.

In the Civil Rights movement, there are people with the big names, and deservedly so. And then there are those who continue its work on a more personal level. John Perkins is one of those people. This book is a remembrance of a life well lived, but does not toot his own horn, but shows the wisdom learned via the hard knocks of living that life. He shares that wisdom so that we all can learn, not to brag.

His message is of love, forgiveness, reconciliation, and redemption. Not a how to manual, but more of a call to live out these characteristics. He also presents a condensed form of his three R’s: relocation, reconciliation, and redistribution.

There are several lessons to be learned. Some include that prayer is the prelude to action, a reminder of what our American Dream is about-that all are created and should be treated equally. This book is a lesson book on how to continue to progress to this Dream.

For my notes and thoughts on this book, please see my book blog.
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25 reviews
July 16, 2023
“I want the white police officers to be sitting next to the young black boys in church on Sunday, singing songs and praying together, learning to be members of the same family of God. I want the single black mother and the family that recently emigrated from Latin America to go up and take Communion together. I want the older widow, who has been living out a lonely life in a nursing home, to be visited and cared for by the young man whose third grade test scores said he would end up in prison someday. I want this to be the picture of the church. I want to see a real community of love. Everyone wants to fight crime, to fight violence, fight racism, and fight injustice, but love is still the final fight, and unless we have these communities of love, we will never see this dream realized.” (P. 200)

“Reconciliation is most successful when churches treat it not as a project or an event but as a way of life. It simply becomes the congregation’s commitment to evangelism and discipleship-it’s how they fulfill the Great Commission. Things only get fixed-truly fixed-when they are mended by God through faith. Often we have it backward, trying to fix things for God rather than letting God fix things through us.” (Page 81)
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141 reviews3 followers
August 16, 2018
Reading this book is like sitting across the table from John Perkins for a frank talk on how our society and the church are doing, regarding love and reconciliation. He has a deep, long term perspective from the Bible and from the trenches. He is unafraid to speak the truth and share his opinions. But it's never abrasive or arrogant. The bottom line is God's love and his tone demonstrates it on every page. Really makes me want to use my life to keep moving toward the reconciliation that God has called us to, the yet unrealized dream.

"The church has been given the message of reconciliation. We are to proclaim it. If we are not reconciling, how can we call ourselves the church?" (p. 47)

"We have come to believe that there are so many differences between us that we cannot even communicate. ... But once we learn to talk to one another, we can start moving on to something bigger. We can move toward repentance and forgiveness. Right now, our forgiveness is too light. We speak the words, but they don't have any real weight. Real repentance and forgiveness requires psychological pain. ... The price is hefty, but the reward at the end is worth it." (p. 207-208)
1 review1 follower
August 14, 2020
Without intending to, I've somehow read several books in a row whose underlying message is love. This is one of the most beautiful explorations of love especially seen through the lense of racial reconciliation. John Perkins has endured much, given much and loved much. His words are timeless and so very important, especially in view of recent events. True social reform leading to equality in all areas still has a long way to go, but voices like John's give substantial guidance. I especially liked how he pointed out that if churches were more culturally diverse, some of our social issues would find more avenues for resolution. It would be harder for a white police officer to worship next to young black men on Sunday and still dehumanize and profile them the rest of the week. This would not, obviously, effect all police interactions, but it could change enough that attitudes in general could shift toward progressive reconciliation.
Anyway, this is an honest and hopeful book whose central message is love.
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