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Sub-Mariner (1968) #14

Sub-Mariner #14

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The Human Torch vs. the Sub-Mariner. The only question is, why are these sometimes-allies fighting?

21 pages, Kindle Edition

Published July 11, 2017

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Roy Thomas

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Roy Thomas was the FIRST Editor-in-Chief at Marvel--After Stan Lee stepped down from the position. Roy is a longtime comic book writer and editor. Thomas has written comics for Archie, Charlton, DC, Heroic Publishing, Marvel, and Topps over the years. Thomas currently edits the fanzine Alter Ego for Twomorrow's Publishing. He was Editor for Marvel comics from 1972-1974. He wrote for several titles at Marvel, such as Avengers, Thor, Invaders, Fantastic Four, X-Men, and notably Conan the Barbarian. Thomas is also known for his championing of Golden Age comic-book heroes — particularly the 1940s superhero team the Justice Society of America — and for lengthy writing stints on Marvel's X-Men and Avengers, and DC Comics' All-Star Squadron, among other titles.

Also a legendary creator. Creations include Wolverine, Carol Danvers, Ghost Rider, Vision, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Valkyrie, Morbius, Doc Samson, and Ultron. Roy has also worked for Archie, Charlton, and DC among others over the years.

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517 reviews32 followers
August 19, 2018
Decent art, but it tried too hard to have too many twists, and the ending was mediocre at best. It was cool seeing returning characters, but that was about it.
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January 17, 2026
6/10 - Projection: I Will Be Annoyed in 0 Seconds After The Mad Thinker Appears

I liked the read mostly because of the interactions and the battle between Namor and Toro, and the solid art by Marie Severin.

The fight has some interesting panels, and it was nice to have a character from the Golden Age. The final twist was unexpected. I also liked that the events in this plot have an impact on other titles, and the brief cameos with other characters helped enhance the shared universe feeling.

Mad Thinker has had a few decent appearances, mostly in the Fantastic Four, but in general, he is annoying as hell. He is constantly crowing about being in control of every aspect of his schemes, only to always be absurdly defeated. His most menacing power so far is his constant verbosity and bravado.

This issue is part of the story arc about the Egghead, Puppet Master, and the Thinker team-up that started in Captain Marvel #12 and is a follow-up to The Avengers #63. So far, the three villains haven't had much prominence or sense of danger at all.
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October 7, 2024
Hokey plot with an improbable ending, even for a comic book. Saying these characters were around since World War 2 is fine in the '60s, but it loses credibility as the characters age. I read this because Iron Man was supposed to be in it, but he's only in one panel. Read it if you are reading Sub-Mariner, but skip if you're reading Iron Man.
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