Palisade has a new resident: a strange wizard who wants to end the suffering of others. As the Queens disappear one by one, Betty uncovers a terrifying truth that finally reveals the events following Hannah’s imprisonment in a magical void. Collects RAT QUEENS, VOL. 2 #6-10 and RAT QUEENS: ORC DAVE SPECIAL #1
Kurtis Wiebe is a Vancouver, Canada based author. The founder and CEO of Vast Vision Publishing, he comes from a two decades long career in comics and games. He is the co-creator of over ten original comic series and a content creator spanning podcasts, live streams and other digital media. His stories have garnered multiple industry awards including two coveted Shuster’s for best writer.
Has anyone ever asked you to calculate the square root of 743 in your head? If so, then the look on your face at that moment is an accurate reflection of the look on mine when I read this (though to be fair, I get the same look when someone asks me what I had for breakfast this morning or what my name is…my brain really doesn’t work these days).
While the Queens themselves are as fun as ever and Gieni’s art is beautiful, I was utterly perplexed by the storyline in this collection (both in terms of where it’s going and what exactly happened), and even the Orc Dave one-shot felt a bit like a trying-too-hard effort to manipulate emotions (so, it was four-color This Is Us, basically).
I very much enjoy these characters, so I’m in for future adventures, but this volume wasn’t my favorite.
Now, if someone could please kindly remind me what the hell my name is, I’d be grateful.
Some evil mage is erasing people from existence for some reason. Also: how orcs procreate!
Hmm. So it’s been a couple years (or a billion quadrillion years in internet time!%^8!) since I last read Rat Queens and unfortunately it’s not improved. The subtitle is quite apt - this book is one big.... magic! I mean nothing! I do mean nothing, don’t I… (harps)...
Huh? Oh yeah. This thing. Sigh… the Orc Dave Special was really tedious especially if you don’t give a crap about the character like me. Get fucked, Orc Dave. And the main story wasn’t much better either. It takes a long, long time to get anywhere and it’s not really worth it. The whole thing gets wrapped up much too easily and the execution was lacking.
Writer Kurtis Wiebe tried to do something clever but it came off as just confusing: characters disappear, then they’re back, then we’re jumping around in time - a-nononoooo. And the humour is so played out. Same dull jokes - oh the girls are bitchy, har har… snore.
And so I find myself saying the same thing I seem to say about most comics being published these days (burp): the art is good, the writing is not! Owen Gieni’s art is skilful, pretty and expressive, and he shows some range with the hallucinatory scene. Good stuff, sir.
But of course most of us read comics for the words as much as the pitchers and Rat Queens, Volume 5: The Colossal Magic Nothing is immensely boring - don’t bother. Image really has become the home of bad fantasy/sci-fi comics, hasn’t it?
Personal rating: 2.75 I really enjoyed the first half but the second half was a clusterfuck.. the story tried to reconnect and salvage what happened in volume 3 but I found it to be unsuccessful. Not only did this force the plot to have to jump into weird time paradoxes but the art also kept changing. It’d go from normal, to trippy cartoon, to 80’s He-Man. It made me feel very detached.
The only way that I feel this graphic novel series can be successful is if it just went back to the good ol’ days of volume 1. I don’t even care for it to have a follow up storyline. I just want to read about these characters going on quests, killing monsters and getting plastered.
I really enjoyed Rat Queens Volumes 1 & 2. With volume 3, "Demons," the series unfortunately took a hard and fast turn for the worse. The Mage University storyline ended on a cliffhanger, with Hannah in a "void prison" and the Queens broken up. Volume 4 disregarded all of this in favor of a soft reboot that restarted the storyline and characters. Yet Kurtis J. Wiebe kept insisting the events in "Demons" were still canon, and promised to address them.
Now he has, and I fervently wish he had left well enough alone.
To put it bluntly, "The Colossal Magic Nothing" is a hot, frustrating mess. The opener, the "Orc Dave Special," is pretty interesting, and better, art- and story-wise, than the rest of the volume put together. "Chapter Six" starts out promisingly, with typical Queens rapid-fire banter, but midway through the art style shifts to some weird Betty Boop-style crap (to show the entrance to another world, I guess) and things start going downhill from there. The further along I read, the more dissatisfied I became, and the less I understood. As near as I can figure out, the fracturing of the Queens in volume 3 led to a splintering of the entire timeline. Hannah eventually escaped from the void prison, but her fury at her supposed abandonment led her to traveling back and forth in time, taking revenge on those who used to be her friends.
This is not only stupid, it is completely unnecessary. Look, Hannah Vizari is a fascinating, complex character. She is the damaged, powerful, cynical, morally ambiguous yin to Betty's upbeat, positive, loving and loyal yang. (Needless to say, those two are my favorite Queens, with Braga a close third.) Exploring Hannah's backstory is entirely legitimate, and I'm not saying to make her a guilty mage searching for redemption, either. Although that could be an excellent story as well, a sort of Queens version of Xena: Warrior Princess.
However, the horrid, misbegotten Mage University storyline was NOT the way to do it. Wiebe really let his audience down, and in my opinion, he has been flailing about aimlessly ever since.
Thus, we get this convoluted, mixed-up, time-twisting revenge idiocy that purports to be an "explanation." Our beloved characters are not acting remotely like themselves, and I can hardly make sense of anything that's going on. Just as a side complaint, I don't like the way Violet is drawn this time around at ALL. She's way too girly and pouty-lipped, even with her sideburns. And wearing a dress? Come on, people.
Also, what the hell happened to Braga? In chapters nine and ten, she vanishes, with no explanation. This is just poor storytelling, and shows great disrespect for one's readers.
Bah. I am very disappointed. I would rather Wiebe had resorted to the cliched retcon of "it was all a [bad] dream" than this. If this is what the series is going to be going forward, just shut it down entirely, please. At least I would have the first two good volumes to go back to.
And the sad thing is, I DO need the artwork to be the RAT QUEENS artwork. I can't get used to any other artwork than the one that the series started with and that sucks.
I hate to give this such a low rating but this is honestly a mess. I feel like the series just hasn't been as good since the hiatus and at this point I don't even really know what's supposed to be going on. There's a super complicated plot with what I would kind of call time-travel but is mostly different potential timelines I guess. It seems like every scene is getting re-written immediately after it happens and that is honestly my least favorite kind of story. Also there's some weird one page reference to the unfinished issue 16 that didn't actually help clarify anything. I hope they can just simplify things again in the future and get back to the fun of the first couple volumes.
I’m still having a hard time with these newer incarnations as they try to reconcile the old storyline with new one. It still feels a bit disjointed to me, but even really contorted storyline Rat Queens is still Rat Queens.
Wiebe does his own version of Crisis on Infinite Earths to try to clean up the mess he left at the end of his first Rat Queens series. And he just makes everything worse. So much worse.
He might be better off if he stuck to shorter and more humorous stories and stopped trying to make this an epic adventure series.
Or maybe after the next volume, he could just let the letterer take over writing the book so he can go start a Saga knock-off?!?!
The first two stories weren’t bad (I love Orc Dave and Betty), but the last storyline that finished the volume with Hannah in banishment bounced around a lot and had very inconsistent artwork. It was too trippy, I’d prefer a smoother storyline. However, the cliffhanger ending will make me pick up the next volume...
This series has gotten progressively worse as a title for me personally. It looks like there are some folks out there still enjoying it, but not as many as those who also share my opinion. Just look at the progression of the cover art for these volumes and you can see the slid into obscurity happen.
These are the frustrated ramblings of someone who wholly bought in with volumes 1 and 2 and couldn't wait to see what was going to happen with this awesome, offbeat cast of characters. Then, "After artist Roc Upchurch was arrested on charges of domestic violence in November 2014, Wiebe announced that Upchurch would no longer be illustrating the series." Stjepan Šejić and Tess Fowler would both do their level best to keep the series looking good, but the formula was already different. By the time Owen Gieni was on-board full time, it was already too late. The story telling was all over the map. The earliest plot lines were no longer really being held together and most of the promise for where this might go was just gone.
I read this one hoping for some of that old razzle-dazzle that made the first two so great (and vol 3 to a lesser extent), but outside of the Orc Dave story in the very beginning, this was a mess. I have no idea what was supposed to be happening by the end and I'm mostly sad for the comic I used to know. I'm the Weezer fan wishing this was still Pinkerton.
The first issue focuses on Orc Dave. It is interesting and good worldbuilding, but it is also repetitive and tangential. Why include a flashback at what will be the beginning of a bound volume if it is only relevant to the rest of the volume in the tiniest way? Why not save it until you are actually going to tie it to the main storyline?
But, to be honest, I would rather have read more about Orc Dave than the rest of the issues in this volume.
The next issues sees the Rat Queens fighting a giant hypnotoad and…haven’t we seen this before? The greatest weakness of the comic is that it isn’t super interested in doing new things. The hypnotoad sequence ends with Betty the smidgen thief licking it. I know that Betty’s impulsivity (and drug use) are basic character traits, but to make such a stupid decision so important to the rest of the comic grates.
The rest of the volume gets into the titular The Colossal Magic Nothing. I won’t get into it, because there is no way to explain it that makes sense and isn’t spoilery. With the big reveal at the end, I see what Wiebe was doing, but it winds up being a disjointed mess. I like the idea, but the execution leaves much to be desired.
The artwork is good, with some cool visuals, but I wasn’t a big fan of the intentionally simplistic style adopted for some of the flashbacks and surreal sequences.
Something is erasing characters from existence, Dee uses her Cthulhu deity to go back in time, and the newly freed Cthulhu deity is wreaking havoc across the multiverse. So the reader is left with multiple alternate realities and chronologies that are indistinguishable from one another or partially superimposed on one another, or maybe they were just tossed together in a wok and served randomly into the pages of volume 5. It's as unnecessarily confusing as the 17th season of LOST.
Meanwhile, the Queens are all given multiple opportunities to expound on how much they love each other and would never give up on one another and how just super-loyal they all are.
Honestly for half this volume I was just like, wtf is going on? I think Wiebe is trying to tie up what happened at the end of vol 3 but it was so long ago I read it I had kind of forgotten what had happened. There are multiple timelines going on with multiple versions of the same character which just makes for a very confusing story. I love these characters but this was not my favourite installment. I hope things are cleared upon the next one. I don't really care about this weird evil timeline I just want to read about the queens getting drunk and going on quests.
Unfortunately this newest installment Rat Queens is my least favorite of the series so far. I don't know about you, but I was so confused for at least half of it and I didn't care for the art as much overall. Though I have to admit I did appreciate the changes in the art for the trippy scene to rescue Jason and for the flashback.
*Sigh* This series has really been up and down. Unfortunately, this volume was another example of “down” for me. Volume four was a reboot of the series, and I really enjoyed it, but the creators insisted on revisiting events from volume three in volume five. This resulted in another incredibly disjointed storyline with terrible pacing and hit and miss art.
I really think Wiebe was trying to do something really interesting with the plot, but he wasn’t able to deliver. I saw glimpses of something awesome, but mostly I was either annoyed, bored, or confused by the plot’s direction.
At this point, I feel like I’m committed to this series for the long haul, but I’m also really hoping for a much better experience when volume six comes out next year. If not, I may need to let this series go...
Midway through this volume, we finally start to see why there was such a jarring shift in reality between the cliffhanger end of Vol. 3 and the "soft reboot" of Vol. 4. I understand why some readers fell off from the series, but personally I found this volume successful in its attempt to create continuity, albeit through some reality-bending timey-wimey nonsense one would expect to find in an X-Men book more than in the DnD-adjacent world of Rat Queens. Still, the characters are fucking fantastic, and their internal conflicts and tragic losses make sense in the long-term trajectory of the series. I'm thrilled to have Braga on the team full-time, and the new competition adventuring team, led by Vi's jerk brother offer some fitting comic relief amidst the oh-so-serious major conflict. And we finally get to learn more about Orc Dave! What a sweet character!
Orc Dave Special. This focus on Orc Dave's backstory is a bit dull, as Dave and Dad wander amidst the trees, and we only get a few pages of the Rat Queens. But then it knocks it out of the park with a surprising and meaningful ending [3+/5].
The Colossal Magic Nothing (#6-10). I have no idea what was up with this story. Maybe part of the problem is that the collection doesn't divide the issue up, so it's just a big mushed-up mess. Or maybe Wiebe just doesn't know how to tell a complex story. This has all kinds of timey-wimey weirdness, and could have been great, but sadly instead came down on the side of incomprehensible. And the ending magically undid everything for no good reason. Great [2/5].
I wish this series could go back to being as strong as the first two TPs. I liked it well enough when I understood what was going on (the trippy sequences towards the beginning were fabulous!), but it got twisty enough that I lost interest. Gotta say...I'm losing my interest in the Queens, which makes me very, very sad.
I... honestly don't know. I'm going to reread this one. And maybe volume 4. And maybe the whole series, and see if it's actually coming together, or if we're all just being bamboozled. Leaving it a middle of the road 3 for now, which may go up or down on further consideration/reread.
This book made me sad. It's doing something, which I guess is clever? It doesn't feel clever, though, just confusing. It's a muddle of a build up to a new conflict, with a bit of background about Orc Dave tossed in.
Paty book zacina one-shotem, kterej prinasi origin Orc Davea a ten se fakt povedl. Paradni kresba a super pribeh.
Druhej story arc restartovany serie zacina slusne a serviruje RQ tak, jak je znamen z prvnich dvou booku. Kresba bohuzel porad pokulhava, ale da se na to zvyknout a neni to takova tragedie jako predchozi book. Nicmene s odchodem Upchurche, potazmo Sejice se z RQ vytratil veskerej sex appeal, coz je zrovna u tyhle serie skoda.
V druhy casti booku se pribeh zamotava, zacina se vymejslet s ruznejma casovejma linkama a alternativnima realitama, takze ve final clovek vubec netusi, co se presne stalo. Budu doufat, ze se tak definitivne uzavrelo stigma z tretiho booku a od ted se muze zacit s cistym stitem.
This volume gets progressively weirder, and more confusing as you read along, but the payoff in the final chapter (and thus set up for the next volume) is, in my opinion, well worth it. They may have tried a little too hard to be ~mysterious~ but ultimately it worked for me. The various art styles (especially to differentiate flashbacks or drug trips) were definitely appreciated. And Orc Dave Interlude #1 (as it's officially called) is beautiful and I want more Orc Dave!! Also really good character development and backstory exploration in this one.
(3,9 of 5 for being a bit dizzy with all that folding of the fabric of space) This volume deconstructs and reconstructs Hannah's alternate timelines and their outcomes and I got a little bit confused about what Wiebe tries to achieve here. Even if a lot is going on there, I felt the story didn't move much. It's still interesting, thought. But I hope that gets stabilised and makes a great run ahead in the next book. And also... I'm giving extra points to Old Queens here.
low point in the series for sure. Time travel magic BS that IMO should of not made it into Rat Queens. I think they have established great characters and large stories I enjoy but maybe this should be the end? The first half of the book was good especially the orc stuff I liked but once that wizard showed up and the story got really confusing. Granted by the end it makes sense but I just didnt get into the story .