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Nightwing: The New Order #1-6
Nightwing: El Nuevo Orden
ARGUMENTO: Año 2028. Una batalla campal entre héroes y villanos arrasa Metropolis. Dick Grayson, alias Nightwing, toma una decisión trascendental. Año 2040. Dick Grayson, el antiguo Nightwing, lidera un cuerpo policial que persigue a los metahumanos y evita que utilicen sus poderes para que la tragedia no se repita. No obstante, el mundo está a punto de volver a cambiar, y todo comenzará con un muchacho llamado Jake. Jake Grayson.
Nightwing: El nuevo orden plantea un futuro alternativo y aterrador de la mano del guionista Kyle Higgins (Nightwing, Batman: Puertas de Gotham) y el dibujante Trevor McCarthy (Batwoman). Este volumen recopila los seis números de la miniserie original Nightwing: The New Order.
Nightwing: El nuevo orden plantea un futuro alternativo y aterrador de la mano del guionista Kyle Higgins (Nightwing, Batman: Puertas de Gotham) y el dibujante Trevor McCarthy (Batwoman). Este volumen recopila los seis números de la miniserie original Nightwing: The New Order.
152 pages, Paperback
First published May 8, 2018
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May 17, 2022
THIS WAS SO GOOD!
A story that starts with a dystopian world where super powers are lost and what happened in the super human war and what losses dick suffered that led him to being the "hunt the powers type" person and from there what happens when his son himself gets powers and how Dick goes to protect him? Plus the fate of the world and the Titans and what happened exactly in the war and where is Superman? Plus friends turned foe and the one hunting them: Kate Kane and with his son in the middle!
Its such an epic story and shows the story from Jake's POV (Dick's son) and I love it and he narrates the big things happening and is a strong advocate for the reader and yeah it starts in pessimism but ends with hope and it does the opposite of deconstruction in a beautiful way and I love it, its just brilliantly written and the art is okayish though and I like the focus on Titans and a self contained story here though!
A story that starts with a dystopian world where super powers are lost and what happened in the super human war and what losses dick suffered that led him to being the "hunt the powers type" person and from there what happens when his son himself gets powers and how Dick goes to protect him? Plus the fate of the world and the Titans and what happened exactly in the war and where is Superman? Plus friends turned foe and the one hunting them: Kate Kane and with his son in the middle!
Its such an epic story and shows the story from Jake's POV (Dick's son) and I love it and he narrates the big things happening and is a strong advocate for the reader and yeah it starts in pessimism but ends with hope and it does the opposite of deconstruction in a beautiful way and I love it, its just brilliantly written and the art is okayish though and I like the focus on Titans and a self contained story here though!
June 7, 2024
Enjoyed this story a lot and it was definitely an interesting else world story about whether powers should be regulated or not. It also has Nightwing as the main character so you can’t go wrong there. Overall thought this was a good story but more could’ve been done with the idea.
May 30, 2018
This is almost an Elseworlds of Injustice if it had spun towards taking everyone's powers away instead of creating drugs to give everyone powers. Set in 2040, Nightwing set a device off 20 years ago that took everyone's powers away. Now he heads up the agency that polices metahumans. then Dick discovers his son has powers and the government wants to put him in "stasis". Everything spirals out of control from there.
This is a pretty good Elseworlds story. I wish DC would bring the branding back so that it is clear that this is out of continuity. Elements of the story were confusing. Nightwing sets off a device that takes away powers but others have their powers repressed with drugs. There's definitely some inconsistencies in the book. Trevor McCarthy, sometimes I really like his art, like the portrayal of Nightwing's acrobatics. Other times I can't even tell what's happening on the page. It's a bit frustrating.
This is a pretty good Elseworlds story. I wish DC would bring the branding back so that it is clear that this is out of continuity. Elements of the story were confusing. Nightwing sets off a device that takes away powers but others have their powers repressed with drugs. There's definitely some inconsistencies in the book. Trevor McCarthy, sometimes I really like his art, like the portrayal of Nightwing's acrobatics. Other times I can't even tell what's happening on the page. It's a bit frustrating.
January 27, 2018
Character based, logical divergent point, beautiful art. This is what a good Elseworlds story is suppose to be and what the Injustice Universe should be if the characters were written better.
World: The art is great, it's soft and hard at the same time and the play on the existing characters and the world is beautiful and tragic and also not devoid of color, good. World building wise it's very very good, it's makes sense, the pieces are logical and put together well and it is all character based, there are no characters that don't act like they should. This is a world that makes sense and it makes sense that New52 Nightwing writer Higgins is the helm for this. I won't spoil the world for readers, it's pretty well planned and executed. This is a good Elseworld.
Story: Paced wonderfully and I hope that this universe gets explored more in the future. This is way better than Injustice simply because of the characters and how they were written. I don't mind the world turned upside down and characters breaking bad or making choices that changes the world completely, that's what Elseworlds is and we got amazing tales like 'Dark Knight Returns' which was initially not canon but now is. This story is just good. It's tight, it's logical and it's interesting. The basic premise of the story is interesting and familiar but it's the characters and their choices and decisions that drives this story, the teams and the sides are interesting and are not a stretch you don't have to suddenly buy into the idea that Superman would suddenly go 180 degrees from his core values (more below). Just a fun and really interesting read.
Characters: Dick is Dick, he's not warped he's not butchered like Taylor did with Injustice Superman and a LOT of the characters. Dick at his core here in this book is Dick and the choice he made in this book and the world that resulted makes sense to him if he had pulled the trigger in Metropolis on that one day in the book. It's a choice that makes sense to him being a leader, an empathetic character and one who has been always seen a very different from Bruce in his approach, this choice made sense. The teams and the world that ended where it did also made sense with Kate and Kori and all the cast of characters. It was wonderful to have the son in the book be the catalyst and it was great that the system gets challenged by Dick when he finds what happens with his son, it's the classic system that works until it's your family on the line and then we have the discussion. It's good. The cameos are also fantastic due to the great art.
I love this arc and this world and it is heads and tails way way better constructed and logical than Injustice. Read this!
Onward to the next book!
World: The art is great, it's soft and hard at the same time and the play on the existing characters and the world is beautiful and tragic and also not devoid of color, good. World building wise it's very very good, it's makes sense, the pieces are logical and put together well and it is all character based, there are no characters that don't act like they should. This is a world that makes sense and it makes sense that New52 Nightwing writer Higgins is the helm for this. I won't spoil the world for readers, it's pretty well planned and executed. This is a good Elseworld.
Story: Paced wonderfully and I hope that this universe gets explored more in the future. This is way better than Injustice simply because of the characters and how they were written. I don't mind the world turned upside down and characters breaking bad or making choices that changes the world completely, that's what Elseworlds is and we got amazing tales like 'Dark Knight Returns' which was initially not canon but now is. This story is just good. It's tight, it's logical and it's interesting. The basic premise of the story is interesting and familiar but it's the characters and their choices and decisions that drives this story, the teams and the sides are interesting and are not a stretch you don't have to suddenly buy into the idea that Superman would suddenly go 180 degrees from his core values (more below). Just a fun and really interesting read.
Characters: Dick is Dick, he's not warped he's not butchered like Taylor did with Injustice Superman and a LOT of the characters. Dick at his core here in this book is Dick and the choice he made in this book and the world that resulted makes sense to him if he had pulled the trigger in Metropolis on that one day in the book. It's a choice that makes sense to him being a leader, an empathetic character and one who has been always seen a very different from Bruce in his approach, this choice made sense. The teams and the world that ended where it did also made sense with Kate and Kori and all the cast of characters. It was wonderful to have the son in the book be the catalyst and it was great that the system gets challenged by Dick when he finds what happens with his son, it's the classic system that works until it's your family on the line and then we have the discussion. It's good. The cameos are also fantastic due to the great art.
I love this arc and this world and it is heads and tails way way better constructed and logical than Injustice. Read this!
Onward to the next book!
September 2, 2019
New Order was different than what I expected and yet I really enjoyed it, this is by far Kyle Higgins best comic I've read so far. I'll even give his Nightwing run another chance now.
So what is new Order? A elseworld story where Nightwing has taken powers away from 90% of super humans. In this new world there is far less crime, or mass murder, and it's been "better" but is it really? Everyone is tense, they are using "cures" on people with powers, and worse of all locking some up when they can't get the cure. But Dick is focused on his son and creating a safer world but soon that begins to crack when an unlikely person forms powers.
It's a new world...or old world been a lot of cool ideas. Dick is still himself, and it's nice to see how he interacts with friends in a normal way you would after changing the world. A lot of great designs here, the art is top notch, with some great fights. I also enjoyed the pacing, very quick, and a bit more brutal than I expected. The negative would probably come from some of it feeling rushed at points though.
However, The New Order is easily a Nightwing book you must read. It stays true to his character and makes him a star once more. A 4 out of 5.
So what is new Order? A elseworld story where Nightwing has taken powers away from 90% of super humans. In this new world there is far less crime, or mass murder, and it's been "better" but is it really? Everyone is tense, they are using "cures" on people with powers, and worse of all locking some up when they can't get the cure. But Dick is focused on his son and creating a safer world but soon that begins to crack when an unlikely person forms powers.
It's a new world...or old world been a lot of cool ideas. Dick is still himself, and it's nice to see how he interacts with friends in a normal way you would after changing the world. A lot of great designs here, the art is top notch, with some great fights. I also enjoyed the pacing, very quick, and a bit more brutal than I expected. The negative would probably come from some of it feeling rushed at points though.
However, The New Order is easily a Nightwing book you must read. It stays true to his character and makes him a star once more. A 4 out of 5.
June 2, 2018
You can find my review on my blog by clicking here.
Author who kicked things off for the New 52 Nightwing comic book run, Kyle Higgins, returns to write an Elseworlds story featuring Dick Grayson himself at the heart of a brand new world. In this brilliantly plotted story, thanks to artist Trevor McCarthy and colorist Dean White, the family theme is explored within an authoritarian setting with unprecedented ingenuity. In under six chapters, Nightwing’s character is put under a whole new spotlight that sheds light on a much more darker and morally-complex character than what fans are used to from him.
The story takes place in 2040 where Dick Grayson is the commander of the federal paramilitary organization known as the Crusaders. Branded as the hero of the world after an unimaginable crisis event, he no longer wears his costume and actively hunts down any individual with powers in order to medically inhibit, incarcerate and cure them of their abilities. The world in which they now live in is hence stripped of a huge majority of metahumans and is now under this new order that is being enforced from here on out. However, the once-known-as Boy Wonder is about to face the biggest obstacle in his life that will slam him against a wall in agony as he’s forced to reflect on the decisions that were once made and the ones he now needs to make.
Throughout the story, countless different heroes appear and make a memorable entrance that will inevitably trigger a smile on you. What the years within this new world have done to them is fascinating and where they position themselves on Dick Grayson’s perception of the world bolsters this story’s ideas in epic ways. How Kyle Higgins uses these characters to further explore themes of family and free will is phenomenal. With constant throwbacks to past events to help readers further comprehend the history of this reality and to further see what happened to some of their favourite heroes turns this story into a very immersive and addictive read.
The artwork is really well-done and detailed, especially with the meticulous focus on the emotions. There isn’t a moment where you don’t pick up on the atmosphere and spot all the tension between certain characters. While some are driven by their vision of the world, others are blinded by theirs, and the artwork helps spot the characters who fit in each category. It was also really nice to see the flashback sequences being draw differently, with horizontally-long panels being put one under the other. It was definitely a nice story-telling structure that gave more room to portray the bigger events of the past.
Nightwing: The New Order turned out to be one of the better Elseworlds story imagined and drawn up today. The dystopia in which it is set in is cleverly conceived and everything in it helped give a hand in portraying a future with scary implications for both the heroes with no powers, but also for those who do or once did.
Yours truly,
Lashaan | Blogger and Book Reviewer
Official blog: http://bookidote.wordpress.com
Author who kicked things off for the New 52 Nightwing comic book run, Kyle Higgins, returns to write an Elseworlds story featuring Dick Grayson himself at the heart of a brand new world. In this brilliantly plotted story, thanks to artist Trevor McCarthy and colorist Dean White, the family theme is explored within an authoritarian setting with unprecedented ingenuity. In under six chapters, Nightwing’s character is put under a whole new spotlight that sheds light on a much more darker and morally-complex character than what fans are used to from him.
The story takes place in 2040 where Dick Grayson is the commander of the federal paramilitary organization known as the Crusaders. Branded as the hero of the world after an unimaginable crisis event, he no longer wears his costume and actively hunts down any individual with powers in order to medically inhibit, incarcerate and cure them of their abilities. The world in which they now live in is hence stripped of a huge majority of metahumans and is now under this new order that is being enforced from here on out. However, the once-known-as Boy Wonder is about to face the biggest obstacle in his life that will slam him against a wall in agony as he’s forced to reflect on the decisions that were once made and the ones he now needs to make.
Throughout the story, countless different heroes appear and make a memorable entrance that will inevitably trigger a smile on you. What the years within this new world have done to them is fascinating and where they position themselves on Dick Grayson’s perception of the world bolsters this story’s ideas in epic ways. How Kyle Higgins uses these characters to further explore themes of family and free will is phenomenal. With constant throwbacks to past events to help readers further comprehend the history of this reality and to further see what happened to some of their favourite heroes turns this story into a very immersive and addictive read.
The artwork is really well-done and detailed, especially with the meticulous focus on the emotions. There isn’t a moment where you don’t pick up on the atmosphere and spot all the tension between certain characters. While some are driven by their vision of the world, others are blinded by theirs, and the artwork helps spot the characters who fit in each category. It was also really nice to see the flashback sequences being draw differently, with horizontally-long panels being put one under the other. It was definitely a nice story-telling structure that gave more room to portray the bigger events of the past.
Nightwing: The New Order turned out to be one of the better Elseworlds story imagined and drawn up today. The dystopia in which it is set in is cleverly conceived and everything in it helped give a hand in portraying a future with scary implications for both the heroes with no powers, but also for those who do or once did.
Yours truly,
Lashaan | Blogger and Book Reviewer
Official blog: http://bookidote.wordpress.com
February 11, 2018
Good! So I'm glad to see DC bringing the Elseworld stuff back with this and Batman: White Knight! So the story here is set in a alternate world where most of the heroes are dead, as well as Meta Humans are now illegal and the ones who do exist are policed by an elite police force called The Crusaders, who are lead by Dick Grayson, Dick now has a son, and then one day he finds out his kid has super powers! So starting off I haven't read much Nightwing, he's always been a cool side character in a Batman comic but I have never been too keen on collecting a stand alone series of him, unless in this case its Elseworld! And to say the least I think Kyle Higgins writes a good older version of the character; and other then it being another universe, its the Dick Grayson everybody knows, he's not a twirling moustache villain in this, or some twisted evil version, no he's the Dick we know who had to make a really hard choice one day.
To start off with the artwork, its very beautiful! It has a very colourful but also had a very glossy look, especially the characters. If you like the covers for the single issues, you will enjoy the interior art as well!
The story I enjoyed quite a lot, its almost like Minority Report, but with superheroes. Higgins does some interesting things with the characters, and the creative freedom he must have had with this series, which was nice to see him take full advantage. One thing I enjoy is how information about this world and its events are told to you slowly as you read on: what starts with a simple premise slowly builds and into something more, which I liked. It keeps you engaged throughout. But I enjoyed the book overall, the ending was very sweet but a bit wrapped up too easily in my opinion. But otherwise a recommend from me!
To start off with the artwork, its very beautiful! It has a very colourful but also had a very glossy look, especially the characters. If you like the covers for the single issues, you will enjoy the interior art as well!
The story I enjoyed quite a lot, its almost like Minority Report, but with superheroes. Higgins does some interesting things with the characters, and the creative freedom he must have had with this series, which was nice to see him take full advantage. One thing I enjoy is how information about this world and its events are told to you slowly as you read on: what starts with a simple premise slowly builds and into something more, which I liked. It keeps you engaged throughout. But I enjoyed the book overall, the ending was very sweet but a bit wrapped up too easily in my opinion. But otherwise a recommend from me!
January 29, 2022
This isn’t terrible - but it certainly isn’t very good either. The story isn’t anything new or interesting and Im not a big fan of the artwork style either. It’s very cramped. The only thing that’s good about this is that it isn’t a necessarily bad story with Nightwing in it - which is hard to find.
July 26, 2021
Look it was an interesting story and all, but I have one big issue with it: I have read over 100 Nightwing comics in the span of the last week or so, and I can with certainty say he is the most loyal, kind hearted, and trusting characters I have ever read in a DC comic, and he would never betray and continue to betray his friends like this. I get that this is meant to be a bit of a "what if" kind of story, but why Nightwing? It just doesn't sit right.
Anyway. If you don't like Nightwing you might enjoy this comic, but if you do, I'd give it a miss.
Anyway. If you don't like Nightwing you might enjoy this comic, but if you do, I'd give it a miss.
January 26, 2018
(Read as single issues.)
This really needed to be longer. The ending was just way too tidy and I wanted more backstory of how things had come to be that way. I'm a little disappointed with how Kory was handled, but I thought it was fairly reasonable. That said, the artwork was stunning throughout and I loved Dick and Jake's relationship - they had a lot of great little moments throughout that reminded me how much I love reading Dick with kids and being a father. A decent story that was mainly hampered by its short run time. I'd say it's worth picking up.
This really needed to be longer. The ending was just way too tidy and I wanted more backstory of how things had come to be that way. I'm a little disappointed with how Kory was handled, but I thought it was fairly reasonable. That said, the artwork was stunning throughout and I loved Dick and Jake's relationship - they had a lot of great little moments throughout that reminded me how much I love reading Dick with kids and being a father. A decent story that was mainly hampered by its short run time. I'd say it's worth picking up.
December 17, 2018
Nigthwing: The New Order is written by Kyle Higgins, who has been writting for the recent Mighty Morphin Power Rangers comics, takes Nightwing into the future of Gotham following the advent of Metahumans. After a fight between good and bad, Nightwing sets off a device that nullifies superpowers, and from then on, superpowers have been outlawed. Richard Grayson, once Nightwing, leads the world in combating these powers for the safety of the world. We see Nightwing trying his best to keep the world safe while also being exposed to the morality of his choices and his actions. We find a very intricate and relatable character as he has to deal with the repercussions of his past, as well as the introduction of his new relation to this past choice. The analogs that are drawn in this story really drive the story of enforcing the metahuman neutralization and takes Nightwing on an unenviable crash course through hard decisions regarding the law, past choices, morality, and family.-UPL Library Staff
March 21, 2025
u alr know nightwing is my goat and i love dystopians when they’re done right so this was a no-brainer 🤓☝️
grayson is responsible for building a world w/o powers and becomes the image of this authoritarian movement– until, something happens that forces him to confront how the system he helped create fails him too
tbh my only complaints #karen were js how tidy everything was at the end #wordlimit #budget, i love the world building but there were a lot of questions up in the air, like where some of the other heroes were at. sure they spent a couple of panels explaining dick’s motivations and all but part of his character is his loyalty to his family & friends so ig like the gravity of the circumstances made him 180??
idk im big braining too much.
art was dope, appetiser before superman red sun if ykyk — big ups for dilf dick grayson tho (im tryna be like u my boy)
3.5/5.
grayson is responsible for building a world w/o powers and becomes the image of this authoritarian movement– until, something happens that forces him to confront how the system he helped create fails him too
tbh my only complaints #karen were js how tidy everything was at the end #wordlimit #budget, i love the world building but there were a lot of questions up in the air, like where some of the other heroes were at. sure they spent a couple of panels explaining dick’s motivations and all but part of his character is his loyalty to his family & friends so ig like the gravity of the circumstances made him 180??
idk im big braining too much.
art was dope, appetiser before superman red sun if ykyk — big ups for dilf dick grayson tho (im tryna be like u my boy)
3.5/5.
January 16, 2022
I've seen a lot of people compare this book to Marvel's Civil War and DC's Injustice: Gods Among Us. Unlike both of those stories though, Nightwing: The New World Order is far more condensed and nuanced with its characters and subject matter. If super powered people existed in the real world, of course there would need to be some form of regulation or oversight, but Higgins does a great job showing how not every problem can be solved with one solution and how the world, and the people that live in it, are not static and far more nuanced than Nightwing wants it to be. One of the best Elseworlds stories and hands down the best Teen Titans story in years. Absolutely recommended.
February 21, 2019
I liked this more than I expected to. It reminded me of a mix of Injustice with The Dark Knight Returns. Really interesting concept. I think the story could've been better with a longer arc. Expand on some of the details. My one real complaint is that ending felt very rushed. The story arc could've been even better with a couple more issues.
November 12, 2021
FULL REVIEW *Spoiler Free* - https://youtu.be/Nlgn6ZrYB2w
Grayson Becomes Too Grey in More Ways than One
OVERALL RATING: 3 stars
Art: 4 stars
Prose: 3 stars
Plot: 3.5 stars
Pacing: 3.5 stars
Character Development: 2.75 stars
World Building: 3 stars
Grayson Becomes Too Grey in More Ways than One
OVERALL RATING: 3 stars
Art: 4 stars
Prose: 3 stars
Plot: 3.5 stars
Pacing: 3.5 stars
Character Development: 2.75 stars
World Building: 3 stars
February 12, 2023
English/Spanish review:
Hey, finally an elseworlds which the main character ain't Batman or Superman!
After Dick suffers a great loss during a big war between heroes and villains, he decides to switch on a device that causes 90% of the world's metas to lose their powers. Twenty years later much of the world's crimes has been reduced and he leads an organization that dedicates itself to keep the metas powerless. How? Forcing them on using inhibiting drugs or, if their bodies reject it, putting them on stasis. Dick seems to be ok with it until he discovers his son is a meta that rejects the drugs.
The first half of the book is great and all but as I advanced with the book, all the doubts I had about this story weren't being answered so it all went downhill. My first problem is that the great loss suffered by Dick got one panel of time itself instead of explaining more. How did that happen? Because it seems pretty stupid to depower every hero. Like, yeah, it's risky to have people going around with such powers but um who the fuck is going to stop Darkseid/Mongul/Brainiac, etc? Cos those dudes ain't something humans can deal with and there's nothing on the story showing how this problem got solved.
The Titans saved Dick from getting caught, leading their biggest enemy on the rebellion to their secret lair. Why the hell they let him wander like a friend? That's just bad writing.
Btw, why Wally wasn't affected by the gun but Barry was? That was very weird, they're mostly the same guy.
Then the book starts suffering greatly on the last issues and it's just a mess since none of the questions haven't been answered yet and they keep on accumulating. And we're already on the last issue so the writer just go nuts on the last few pages where there's like ten things happening at the same time and those things raise more questions like:
Why is Luthor on the hide? He's always jealous of Superman being around cos that wouldn't let him be the greatest ever, he could just be free, he's done. Why did Luthor help Superman get his powers back if he was gonna betray him five seconds later anyway? - And the plan itself is stupid, if the bomb was gonna kill all the city how could it spread powers? - If they already had that re powering machine done, why not use it before?
Dick is an absolute idiot on this story. At first his point is kinda understandable but as the story progresses and he's betrayed and shown over and over that the Crusaders are acting wrong about the situation he goes and betrays his ex friends and the mother of his son, people who still trusts him for some idiots who even shot his son. That would be fine, he could be a hypocrite but then he's on the car with his son and he reminds him that Batman used to have an overly dark vision of the world like he now, and Robin - himself - would be a light to him to remind him that things never were that bad. So three seconds later he says "ok, this is wrong" and goes back. Has he never think of that before? It's a bit stupid that he suddenly changes his life back for something so obvious.
BTW, wtf is going on with writers killing Alfred all the time? He's the new WiR for Batman comics on the last few years.
The book is enjoyable still but I think it lacks of a few more issues to tell an interesting set-up on a more convincing way.
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Che, por fin Elseworld en el que el personaje principal no es Batman ni Superman!
Después de que Dick sufre una gran pérdida durante una gran guerra entre héroes y villanos, decide encender un dispositivo que hace que el 90% de los meta del mundo pierdan sus poderes. Veinte años después, gran parte del crimen en el mundo se redujo y él lidera una organización que se dedica a mantener impotentes a los metas. ¿Cómo? Obligándolos a usar drogas inhibidoras o, si sus cuerpos las rechazan, poniéndolos en estasis. Dick parece estar bien hasta que descubre que su hijo es un meta que rechaza las drogas.
La primera mitad del libro está buena y todo, pero a medida que avanzaba con el libro, todas las dudas que tenía sobre esta historia no estaban siendo respondidas, por lo que todo se fue cuesta abajo. Mi primer problema es que la gran pérdida sufrida por Dick obtuvo un panel del tiempo mismo en lugar de explicar más. ¿Cómo ocurrió eso? Porque parece bastante estúpido dejar a todos los héroes sin poderes así como así. Sí, es arriesgado tener personas dando vueltas con tales poderes, pero um ¿quién pingo va a frenar a Darkseid/Mongul/Brainiac, etc? Porque esos tipos no son algo con lo que los humanos puedan lidiar y no hay nada en la historia que muestre cómo se resolvió este problema.
Los Titanes salvaron a Dick de ser atrapado, llevando a su mayor enemigo en la rebelión a su guarida secreta. ¿Por qué carajo lo dejaron vagar por el lugar como un amigo? Eso es simplemente mala escritura.
Por cierto, ¿por qué Wally no se vio afectado por el arma pero Barry sí? Eso fue muy extraño, o sea, son casi el mismo tipo.
Luego, el libro comienza a sufrir mucho en los últimos números y es un desastre ya que ninguna de las preguntas ha sido respondida todavía y se siguen acumulando. Y ya estamos en el último número, por lo que el escritor se vuelve loco en las últimas páginas, donde suceden como diez cosas al mismo tiempo y esas cosas plantean más preguntas como:
¿Por qué Luthor está escondido? Siempre estuvo celoso de que Superman esté cerca porque eso no le permitiría ser el mejor de todos, simplemente podría ser libre, ya está. ¿Por qué Luthor ayudó a Superman a recuperar sus poderes si iba a traicionarlo cinco segundos después de todos modos? - Y el plan en sí es estúpido, si la bomba iba a matar a toda la ciudad, ¿Cómo podría repartir poderes? - Si ya tenían hecha esa máquina para volverlos a la normalidad ¿por qué no usarla antes?
Dick es un absoluto idiota en esta historia. Al principio, su punto es un poco comprensible, pero a medida que avanza la historia y es traicionado y muestra una y otra vez por los cruzados y ve que están actuando equivocadamente acerca de la situación, va y traiciona. sus ex amigos y la madre de su hijo, personas que aún confían en él por un par de pajeros que hasta le dispararon a su hijo. Eso estaría bien, podría ser un hipócrita y punto pero entonces está en el auto con su hijo y este le recuerda que Batman solía tener una visión demasiado oscura del mundo como él ahora, y Robin - él mismo - era una luz para él y le recordaba que las cosas nunca fueron tan malas. Entonces, tres segundos después, dice "está bien, esto está mal" y regresa. ¿Nunca había pensado en eso antes? Es un poco estúpido que de repente cambie su vida de nuevo por algo tan obvio.
Por cierto, ¿qué pasa con los escritores que matan a Alfred todo el tiempo? Es el nuevo WiR para los cómics de Batman en los últimos años.
El libro es legible, pero creo que le faltan algunos números más para contar un set-up interesante de una manera más convincente.
Hey, finally an elseworlds which the main character ain't Batman or Superman!
After Dick suffers a great loss during a big war between heroes and villains, he decides to switch on a device that causes 90% of the world's metas to lose their powers. Twenty years later much of the world's crimes has been reduced and he leads an organization that dedicates itself to keep the metas powerless. How? Forcing them on using inhibiting drugs or, if their bodies reject it, putting them on stasis. Dick seems to be ok with it until he discovers his son is a meta that rejects the drugs.
The first half of the book is great and all but as I advanced with the book, all the doubts I had about this story weren't being answered so it all went downhill. My first problem is that the great loss suffered by Dick got one panel of time itself instead of explaining more. How did that happen? Because it seems pretty stupid to depower every hero. Like, yeah, it's risky to have people going around with such powers but um who the fuck is going to stop Darkseid/Mongul/Brainiac, etc? Cos those dudes ain't something humans can deal with and there's nothing on the story showing how this problem got solved.
The Titans saved Dick from getting caught, leading their biggest enemy on the rebellion to their secret lair. Why the hell they let him wander like a friend? That's just bad writing.
Btw, why Wally wasn't affected by the gun but Barry was? That was very weird, they're mostly the same guy.
Then the book starts suffering greatly on the last issues and it's just a mess since none of the questions haven't been answered yet and they keep on accumulating. And we're already on the last issue so the writer just go nuts on the last few pages where there's like ten things happening at the same time and those things raise more questions like:
Why is Luthor on the hide? He's always jealous of Superman being around cos that wouldn't let him be the greatest ever, he could just be free, he's done. Why did Luthor help Superman get his powers back if he was gonna betray him five seconds later anyway? - And the plan itself is stupid, if the bomb was gonna kill all the city how could it spread powers? - If they already had that re powering machine done, why not use it before?
Dick is an absolute idiot on this story. At first his point is kinda understandable but as the story progresses and he's betrayed and shown over and over that the Crusaders are acting wrong about the situation he goes and betrays his ex friends and the mother of his son, people who still trusts him for some idiots who even shot his son. That would be fine, he could be a hypocrite but then he's on the car with his son and he reminds him that Batman used to have an overly dark vision of the world like he now, and Robin - himself - would be a light to him to remind him that things never were that bad. So three seconds later he says "ok, this is wrong" and goes back. Has he never think of that before? It's a bit stupid that he suddenly changes his life back for something so obvious.
BTW, wtf is going on with writers killing Alfred all the time? He's the new WiR for Batman comics on the last few years.
The book is enjoyable still but I think it lacks of a few more issues to tell an interesting set-up on a more convincing way.
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Che, por fin Elseworld en el que el personaje principal no es Batman ni Superman!
Después de que Dick sufre una gran pérdida durante una gran guerra entre héroes y villanos, decide encender un dispositivo que hace que el 90% de los meta del mundo pierdan sus poderes. Veinte años después, gran parte del crimen en el mundo se redujo y él lidera una organización que se dedica a mantener impotentes a los metas. ¿Cómo? Obligándolos a usar drogas inhibidoras o, si sus cuerpos las rechazan, poniéndolos en estasis. Dick parece estar bien hasta que descubre que su hijo es un meta que rechaza las drogas.
La primera mitad del libro está buena y todo, pero a medida que avanzaba con el libro, todas las dudas que tenía sobre esta historia no estaban siendo respondidas, por lo que todo se fue cuesta abajo. Mi primer problema es que la gran pérdida sufrida por Dick obtuvo un panel del tiempo mismo en lugar de explicar más. ¿Cómo ocurrió eso? Porque parece bastante estúpido dejar a todos los héroes sin poderes así como así. Sí, es arriesgado tener personas dando vueltas con tales poderes, pero um ¿quién pingo va a frenar a Darkseid/Mongul/Brainiac, etc? Porque esos tipos no son algo con lo que los humanos puedan lidiar y no hay nada en la historia que muestre cómo se resolvió este problema.
Los Titanes salvaron a Dick de ser atrapado, llevando a su mayor enemigo en la rebelión a su guarida secreta. ¿Por qué carajo lo dejaron vagar por el lugar como un amigo? Eso es simplemente mala escritura.
Por cierto, ¿por qué Wally no se vio afectado por el arma pero Barry sí? Eso fue muy extraño, o sea, son casi el mismo tipo.
Luego, el libro comienza a sufrir mucho en los últimos números y es un desastre ya que ninguna de las preguntas ha sido respondida todavía y se siguen acumulando. Y ya estamos en el último número, por lo que el escritor se vuelve loco en las últimas páginas, donde suceden como diez cosas al mismo tiempo y esas cosas plantean más preguntas como:
¿Por qué Luthor está escondido? Siempre estuvo celoso de que Superman esté cerca porque eso no le permitiría ser el mejor de todos, simplemente podría ser libre, ya está. ¿Por qué Luthor ayudó a Superman a recuperar sus poderes si iba a traicionarlo cinco segundos después de todos modos? - Y el plan en sí es estúpido, si la bomba iba a matar a toda la ciudad, ¿Cómo podría repartir poderes? - Si ya tenían hecha esa máquina para volverlos a la normalidad ¿por qué no usarla antes?
Dick es un absoluto idiota en esta historia. Al principio, su punto es un poco comprensible, pero a medida que avanza la historia y es traicionado y muestra una y otra vez por los cruzados y ve que están actuando equivocadamente acerca de la situación, va y traiciona. sus ex amigos y la madre de su hijo, personas que aún confían en él por un par de pajeros que hasta le dispararon a su hijo. Eso estaría bien, podría ser un hipócrita y punto pero entonces está en el auto con su hijo y este le recuerda que Batman solía tener una visión demasiado oscura del mundo como él ahora, y Robin - él mismo - era una luz para él y le recordaba que las cosas nunca fueron tan malas. Entonces, tres segundos después, dice "está bien, esto está mal" y regresa. ¿Nunca había pensado en eso antes? Es un poco estúpido que de repente cambie su vida de nuevo por algo tan obvio.
Por cierto, ¿qué pasa con los escritores que matan a Alfred todo el tiempo? Es el nuevo WiR para los cómics de Batman en los últimos años.
El libro es legible, pero creo que le faltan algunos números más para contar un set-up interesante de una manera más convincente.
May 26, 2018
Batman got me into comics but Dick Grayson made me a fan. I loved his evolution from dorky teenage sidekick to an adult heart-throb and as a hero in his own right. He could have been a jokey, forgotten character but he evolved into something else, something better.
And so I found this story quite difficult to get into. For some reason it's become popular to take old heroes and tear them down, to show they were mortal after all, almost to prove that nobody is actually that great, everyone kind of sucks. And in today's climate, it tends to leave a sour taste in your mouth.
The overall concept of this story takes our hero Dick Grayson and turns him into something different. He's not torn down so much as forced to evolve once again and it's into something I didn't like. He leans heavily into totalitarianism, policing meta-humans, depowering them or throwing them into statis if they can't be depowered.
He's a real lowercase dick. It's explained that he did it to stop a war, to save lives, to save the world but that seemingly noble gesture led to decades of repression for completely innocent metahumans.
I understand his initial action to some degree, but to double down on it so ferociously didn't feel at all like the Dick Grayson I grew up with. To go to such an extreme.
And then things get personal and being to affect him directly. But honestly, I didn't have any sympathy for him. This is the bed he made, he should lie in it. But of course like most totalitarian fans, he's a complete hypocrite when it affects him directly.
I'm going to go into spoiler territory now. I want to explain how this book almost brought me over to Dick's point of view in a single page.
I was concerned going in that it was going to be poorly written to allow for Dick to become a completely different type of person, but it did make sense, but Dick still came across as a massively entitled, hypocritcally douchebag... and I really don't like that incarnation of my favourite comicbook character.
And so I found this story quite difficult to get into. For some reason it's become popular to take old heroes and tear them down, to show they were mortal after all, almost to prove that nobody is actually that great, everyone kind of sucks. And in today's climate, it tends to leave a sour taste in your mouth.
The overall concept of this story takes our hero Dick Grayson and turns him into something different. He's not torn down so much as forced to evolve once again and it's into something I didn't like. He leans heavily into totalitarianism, policing meta-humans, depowering them or throwing them into statis if they can't be depowered.
He's a real lowercase dick. It's explained that he did it to stop a war, to save lives, to save the world but that seemingly noble gesture led to decades of repression for completely innocent metahumans.
I understand his initial action to some degree, but to double down on it so ferociously didn't feel at all like the Dick Grayson I grew up with. To go to such an extreme.
And then things get personal and being to affect him directly. But honestly, I didn't have any sympathy for him. This is the bed he made, he should lie in it. But of course like most totalitarian fans, he's a complete hypocrite when it affects him directly.
I'm going to go into spoiler territory now. I want to explain how this book almost brought me over to Dick's point of view in a single page.
I was concerned going in that it was going to be poorly written to allow for Dick to become a completely different type of person, but it did make sense, but Dick still came across as a massively entitled, hypocritcally douchebag... and I really don't like that incarnation of my favourite comicbook character.
June 22, 2019
A solid enough story with good art. Since this is an “elseworlds” style story, I can mostly overlook everyone acting out of character. Primarily focused on Nightwing, we see Dick doing things that are just hard to believe. He is quite the hypocrite actually, doing a 180 on his morals the moment the laws he helped create are applied to him. Far worse than that though is Starfire, who turns out to be a deadbeat parent. Yikes.
All in all, once you overlook the people acting out of character, it was an entertaining story that is a quick read with good art. Worth borrowing, but maybe not worth buying.
All in all, once you overlook the people acting out of character, it was an entertaining story that is a quick read with good art. Worth borrowing, but maybe not worth buying.
August 29, 2018
Nightwing: The New Order is an Elseworlds-like mini-series set in the future where superpowers have been virtually eliminated and outlawed – the person responsible was Dick Grayson. Now leader of a government task force called the Crusaders who are charged with hunting the remaining Supers, he is looked upon as a hero.
However, when events transpire which turn the Crusaders' aim toward Grayson's own family, he must turn against the very system he helped create, with help from the very people he's been hunting for years – the last meta-humans of the DC Universe. This trade paperback collects all six issues of the 2017 mini-series.
The mini-series is being narrated by Jacob "Jake" Grayson – the son of Dick Grayson and Starfire and throughout the six issues, he retells how the world came to be and how it begin a more hopeful renaissance thanks in large part to his father – Dick Grayson.
Prior to the story, Dick Grayson in rage was forced to activate a device that rendered 90% of the world's superpowers to nothing. The event that participated such a response was the battle of Metropolis which decimated the city and a kryptonite infused Superman viciously killed Batman. The world has also lost their love for super-villains and the counterparts mainly because all the collateral damage and deaths that occur when they battle. Therefore, Dick Grayson was hailed as a hero and put in charge of the Crusaders to hunt down those with meta-human powers.
Jake Grayson began to develop powers from his half Tamaranean genes, but hid them from his father, because he knows they would be a problem for his father and his anti-superpower agenda. However, one day in school, he lost control of his powers and was forced to reveal them – to everyone. Unable to control them with normal power dampeners, Jake was detained by the Crusaders and brought in with his father. To save his son, Dick Grayson escapes from custody with his son and runs to the only place where he knows his son would be safe with his mother and the Titans.
The Titans consists of a depowered Beat Boy, Cyborg, The Flash, Blue Lantern Lois Lane and a depowered Starfire. The Titans are interested in Jake Grayson, because he is resistant to all known forms of power dampeners, which they thought would be useful to reverse what Dick Grayson has done years earlier. Dick Grayson was unhappy with the Titans experimenting on his son, so he contacts the Crusaders in secret and told them his location. He instantly regrets doing that so he teams up with the Titans and his son to fight against the Crusader.
Once Lex Luthor had succeeded, he betrayed the Titans and activated a bomb underneath Metropolis that would return the world’s powers but destroy the city in the process. The remaining superheroes with Jake Grayson helped evacuate the city and were successful. The bomb exploded and restored the meta-human powers to everyone.
In the epilogue, the laws against superpowers were slowly phased out and Jake Grayson would work with his father to train the next generation of super-powered children – the second time that Dick Grayson has changed the world – this time for the better.
Kyle Higgins penned the entire series and for the most part it was done rather well. It is an interesting commentary on superpowers for good and for ill. I like the choice of the narration being a retrospective story retold in the future by an older Jacob Grayson. It gives the story a fuller, grander sense of importance, as this instance in history was rather world changing.
While I like the story, I question the main character – Dick Grayson. I am not sure if Dick Grayson Romani heritage survived the reboot, but if it did, I feel that it is incongruous and downright wrong to have Dick Grayson head and lead a governmental task force to track down the disenfranchised. It seems eerily similar to what Adolf Hitler did to the Romani during the World War II. Despite that, it was good to read Kyle Higgins writing about Dick Grayson again.
Trevor McCarthy penciled the entire trade paperback and because he was the only penciler, the artistic flow of the trade paperback flowed exceptionally well. I rather enjoyed his penciling style, I may have a quibble here or there, but nothing significant that would make me outright hate it. I think that the penciling accentuated the series rather well and it is good to see Higgins and McCarthy team up again.
All in all, Nightwing: The New Order is a rather wonderful mini-series. It is an interesting Elseworlds-like series and an equally interesting story about superpowers.
However, when events transpire which turn the Crusaders' aim toward Grayson's own family, he must turn against the very system he helped create, with help from the very people he's been hunting for years – the last meta-humans of the DC Universe. This trade paperback collects all six issues of the 2017 mini-series.
The mini-series is being narrated by Jacob "Jake" Grayson – the son of Dick Grayson and Starfire and throughout the six issues, he retells how the world came to be and how it begin a more hopeful renaissance thanks in large part to his father – Dick Grayson.
Prior to the story, Dick Grayson in rage was forced to activate a device that rendered 90% of the world's superpowers to nothing. The event that participated such a response was the battle of Metropolis which decimated the city and a kryptonite infused Superman viciously killed Batman. The world has also lost their love for super-villains and the counterparts mainly because all the collateral damage and deaths that occur when they battle. Therefore, Dick Grayson was hailed as a hero and put in charge of the Crusaders to hunt down those with meta-human powers.
Jake Grayson began to develop powers from his half Tamaranean genes, but hid them from his father, because he knows they would be a problem for his father and his anti-superpower agenda. However, one day in school, he lost control of his powers and was forced to reveal them – to everyone. Unable to control them with normal power dampeners, Jake was detained by the Crusaders and brought in with his father. To save his son, Dick Grayson escapes from custody with his son and runs to the only place where he knows his son would be safe with his mother and the Titans.
The Titans consists of a depowered Beat Boy, Cyborg, The Flash, Blue Lantern Lois Lane and a depowered Starfire. The Titans are interested in Jake Grayson, because he is resistant to all known forms of power dampeners, which they thought would be useful to reverse what Dick Grayson has done years earlier. Dick Grayson was unhappy with the Titans experimenting on his son, so he contacts the Crusaders in secret and told them his location. He instantly regrets doing that so he teams up with the Titans and his son to fight against the Crusader.
Once Lex Luthor had succeeded, he betrayed the Titans and activated a bomb underneath Metropolis that would return the world’s powers but destroy the city in the process. The remaining superheroes with Jake Grayson helped evacuate the city and were successful. The bomb exploded and restored the meta-human powers to everyone.
In the epilogue, the laws against superpowers were slowly phased out and Jake Grayson would work with his father to train the next generation of super-powered children – the second time that Dick Grayson has changed the world – this time for the better.
Kyle Higgins penned the entire series and for the most part it was done rather well. It is an interesting commentary on superpowers for good and for ill. I like the choice of the narration being a retrospective story retold in the future by an older Jacob Grayson. It gives the story a fuller, grander sense of importance, as this instance in history was rather world changing.
While I like the story, I question the main character – Dick Grayson. I am not sure if Dick Grayson Romani heritage survived the reboot, but if it did, I feel that it is incongruous and downright wrong to have Dick Grayson head and lead a governmental task force to track down the disenfranchised. It seems eerily similar to what Adolf Hitler did to the Romani during the World War II. Despite that, it was good to read Kyle Higgins writing about Dick Grayson again.
Trevor McCarthy penciled the entire trade paperback and because he was the only penciler, the artistic flow of the trade paperback flowed exceptionally well. I rather enjoyed his penciling style, I may have a quibble here or there, but nothing significant that would make me outright hate it. I think that the penciling accentuated the series rather well and it is good to see Higgins and McCarthy team up again.
All in all, Nightwing: The New Order is a rather wonderful mini-series. It is an interesting Elseworlds-like series and an equally interesting story about superpowers.
October 29, 2020
This book gets 3.5 stars, not really four.
Let's begin with the artwork. Wow. Just . . . seriously, wow. I loved it. It's clean and pretty, easy to read for the most part, except in a few fight scenes. But just all around wonderful. It serves the story perfectly, Trevor McCarthy and Dean White do a brilliant job of creating the future and it's just really pretty to look at. The colors are somewhat somber with lots of reds and bright blues for contrast, which really doesn't work for me so well, but it's a story about an authoritarian and dystopian future so it's hardly supposed to be appealing and bright and sunny. So I guess that's a pass. Whatever the case, I think the book could have done with brighter colors in places.
I really liked the designs for Nightwing, as an older man, and Superman and Lois Lane. I had issues with Starfire's design. But all the same the future was interesting, the artwork showed us a futuristic time and not what happens in some comics where it may as well be the present but for how people are dressed. There was serious thought put into the setting design and the vehicles as well as the Bat cops. So here again, the art is serviceable and good and as close to perfect as it gets with most monthly comics.
As far as the story is concerned, there I have a few things to gripe about. It is a solid, good story, and well told. It is ultimately a story about father's and sons, the things we do for the people we love, whether those things are right or wrong or if we take our concerns and our love too far. Plus the griefs that can take us to such places. In this regard it is a very good, solid story.
But that's the problem, I can't wrap my mind around Dick Grayson turning on all the superheroes of earth at once. That is the stories main conceit. The very thing that sets off the events that make this whole universe exist, but I cannot bring myself to buy that Nightwing would ever do that. The characterization for most of the other characters is mostly spot on but I think Mr. Higgins misses Dick's motivation. He gives us solid reasons for why Grayson turned and what he does following the events in Metropolis, but that there alone is an example of the problem. Why would the instigating event even happen in Metropolis? When there's already the cesspool of Gotham, and with Batman dead, wouldn't that city have just devolved into the greater mess? It has more evil villains and Arkham. Metropolis is a shinier city by far. The absence of Wonder Woman and other magical creatures too leaves a lot of questions unanswered. The whole premise falls under the burden of too much scrutiny. And this detracts from the pleasure and full immersion into the story.
Brady is a jerk, and that's all well and good. But the mischaracterization of Batwoman, well Kate just comes off as a real mean woman. We aren't really given a reason why she's so hard core against superheroes except that she gave up that life herself, and that her more military background made her more apt to trust in the law. Which when you think about it, well then why did she ever don the Batwoman outfit?
Here again most of the characters are cool, and I love the look of Superman but some of the main characters aren't played right. Kori and Grayson's rift seems unnatural. Her abandoning her child seems ridiculous. She's essentially choosing her ideology over her kid? And Beast Boy and Cyborg's underutulization, along with Raven's complete absence gives us a story that maybe would have worked better were it a little longer and more thought out.
All in all, it is a great Elseworld's book. Not perfect, but far from being mediocre. It is a good solid read, with better than normal art. And I can buy this happening given a few minor mischaracterizations. But those very things are what keep this book from being a solid 4 or 5 star book. Definitely for fans of Nightwing, and the Teen Titans, or Elseworld stories, but not something for the casual fans, though it does work as a whole narrative in one and it's nice not to have to follow the story into other books.
3.5 stars. A good read with better than good art.
Let's begin with the artwork. Wow. Just . . . seriously, wow. I loved it. It's clean and pretty, easy to read for the most part, except in a few fight scenes. But just all around wonderful. It serves the story perfectly, Trevor McCarthy and Dean White do a brilliant job of creating the future and it's just really pretty to look at. The colors are somewhat somber with lots of reds and bright blues for contrast, which really doesn't work for me so well, but it's a story about an authoritarian and dystopian future so it's hardly supposed to be appealing and bright and sunny. So I guess that's a pass. Whatever the case, I think the book could have done with brighter colors in places.
I really liked the designs for Nightwing, as an older man, and Superman and Lois Lane. I had issues with Starfire's design. But all the same the future was interesting, the artwork showed us a futuristic time and not what happens in some comics where it may as well be the present but for how people are dressed. There was serious thought put into the setting design and the vehicles as well as the Bat cops. So here again, the art is serviceable and good and as close to perfect as it gets with most monthly comics.
As far as the story is concerned, there I have a few things to gripe about. It is a solid, good story, and well told. It is ultimately a story about father's and sons, the things we do for the people we love, whether those things are right or wrong or if we take our concerns and our love too far. Plus the griefs that can take us to such places. In this regard it is a very good, solid story.
But that's the problem, I can't wrap my mind around Dick Grayson turning on all the superheroes of earth at once. That is the stories main conceit. The very thing that sets off the events that make this whole universe exist, but I cannot bring myself to buy that Nightwing would ever do that. The characterization for most of the other characters is mostly spot on but I think Mr. Higgins misses Dick's motivation. He gives us solid reasons for why Grayson turned and what he does following the events in Metropolis, but that there alone is an example of the problem. Why would the instigating event even happen in Metropolis? When there's already the cesspool of Gotham, and with Batman dead, wouldn't that city have just devolved into the greater mess? It has more evil villains and Arkham. Metropolis is a shinier city by far. The absence of Wonder Woman and other magical creatures too leaves a lot of questions unanswered. The whole premise falls under the burden of too much scrutiny. And this detracts from the pleasure and full immersion into the story.
Brady is a jerk, and that's all well and good. But the mischaracterization of Batwoman, well Kate just comes off as a real mean woman. We aren't really given a reason why she's so hard core against superheroes except that she gave up that life herself, and that her more military background made her more apt to trust in the law. Which when you think about it, well then why did she ever don the Batwoman outfit?
Here again most of the characters are cool, and I love the look of Superman but some of the main characters aren't played right. Kori and Grayson's rift seems unnatural. Her abandoning her child seems ridiculous. She's essentially choosing her ideology over her kid? And Beast Boy and Cyborg's underutulization, along with Raven's complete absence gives us a story that maybe would have worked better were it a little longer and more thought out.
All in all, it is a great Elseworld's book. Not perfect, but far from being mediocre. It is a good solid read, with better than normal art. And I can buy this happening given a few minor mischaracterizations. But those very things are what keep this book from being a solid 4 or 5 star book. Definitely for fans of Nightwing, and the Teen Titans, or Elseworld stories, but not something for the casual fans, though it does work as a whole narrative in one and it's nice not to have to follow the story into other books.
3.5 stars. A good read with better than good art.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
May 6, 2018
What happens when you take the majority of the DC Superheros & Villains, powers away? Well, this is the book that answers that question.
In 2040, we find a world where ninety percent of the world metahuman population powers were taken away after an event, twenty years earlier and anyone with powers in present day are inhibited or worse. Leading the forefront of this non-power change, is Dick Grayson, the former Nightwing and Boy Wonder.
After his actions during the event twenty years ago, Dick has become the face and hero of the now, non-metahuman society and leads an organization called the Crusaders, who find metahumans and as stated, put them medical inhibitors or putting them in something called Stasis. For the last twenty years, Dick and the Crusaders have come up with a nearly flawless system.
But, when Dick Grayson's son, Jake (From the union with his former wife, Starfire), starts manifesting powers, which resist anyway to suppress them, the two Graysons are forced to run and seek help from Dick's old team, the Titans, including his old flame and Jake's mother, Starfire, while the Crusaders and the Pentagon, run by the former Batwoman, Kate Kane, hunts them down.
If you're a fan of the old DC Elseworld stories or just in alternative stories, this is a great book to pick up. I always find it interesting to see well-loved characters, take on different roles (ex. evil dictator Superman from Injustice). As with this story, we find Dick Grayson, who is known in the DC universe to be the person who tries to accept everyone, Metahuman or not and he has become someone who pretty much hates powers, but still have that Dick Grayson charm. It's always fun to see beloved characters in a more, gray light.
In 2040, we find a world where ninety percent of the world metahuman population powers were taken away after an event, twenty years earlier and anyone with powers in present day are inhibited or worse. Leading the forefront of this non-power change, is Dick Grayson, the former Nightwing and Boy Wonder.
After his actions during the event twenty years ago, Dick has become the face and hero of the now, non-metahuman society and leads an organization called the Crusaders, who find metahumans and as stated, put them medical inhibitors or putting them in something called Stasis. For the last twenty years, Dick and the Crusaders have come up with a nearly flawless system.
But, when Dick Grayson's son, Jake (From the union with his former wife, Starfire), starts manifesting powers, which resist anyway to suppress them, the two Graysons are forced to run and seek help from Dick's old team, the Titans, including his old flame and Jake's mother, Starfire, while the Crusaders and the Pentagon, run by the former Batwoman, Kate Kane, hunts them down.
If you're a fan of the old DC Elseworld stories or just in alternative stories, this is a great book to pick up. I always find it interesting to see well-loved characters, take on different roles (ex. evil dictator Superman from Injustice). As with this story, we find Dick Grayson, who is known in the DC universe to be the person who tries to accept everyone, Metahuman or not and he has become someone who pretty much hates powers, but still have that Dick Grayson charm. It's always fun to see beloved characters in a more, gray light.
June 21, 2018
Leo cómics DC hace muchos años, y aunque cada tanto hacen reboots de la continuidad oficial, nunca nada demasiado, ni demasiado tiempo.
Por eso siempre es un soplo de aire fresco leer historias que transcurren fuera de esa continuidad (o quizás en algún futuro muy futuro o algua tierra del multiverso). Por lo general, estas historias (Elseworlds se llamaban en los '90), suelen arriesgarse y hacer con los personajes cosas un poco más arriesgadas de lo normal. Pero lo mejor de estas historias, más allá de que tal o cual personaje no se comporte de la manera habitual, es la capacidad de sumergir al lector en un ambiente completamente nuevo, usando elementos conocidos y dándoles un giro.
No es que NTNO no tenga esto, pero me parece que podría estar explicado con un poco más de detalles.
En mi opinión, se explica lo justo y se acaba abusando de las apariciones sorpresas. Pero sobre todo, hay al menos 2 ó 3 cosas que no están explicadas o no lo suficiente, al menos.
Los dibujos tampoco ayudan demasiado (¿o serán las tintas?). Me parecieron un poco duros. Una pena porque las portadas están muy bien.
El desenlace lo encontré muy simple, casi predecible. Y el final propiamente dicho, hace un (mal) esfuerzo por ser profundo y hacer pensar. Lamentablemente, aquellas cosas sobre las que quiere hacerte pensar, estàn muy mal y poco desarrolladas en los seis números, por lo que leer las 3 últimas páginas es una mezcla de aburrimiento y comprobación de que había buenas intenciones, pero falló la ejecución.
Me voy a sacar este mal sabor de boca releyendo una de las mejores historias fuera de continuidad (bueno, ya es canon). Kingdome Come.
Por eso siempre es un soplo de aire fresco leer historias que transcurren fuera de esa continuidad (o quizás en algún futuro muy futuro o algua tierra del multiverso). Por lo general, estas historias (Elseworlds se llamaban en los '90), suelen arriesgarse y hacer con los personajes cosas un poco más arriesgadas de lo normal. Pero lo mejor de estas historias, más allá de que tal o cual personaje no se comporte de la manera habitual, es la capacidad de sumergir al lector en un ambiente completamente nuevo, usando elementos conocidos y dándoles un giro.
No es que NTNO no tenga esto, pero me parece que podría estar explicado con un poco más de detalles.
En mi opinión, se explica lo justo y se acaba abusando de las apariciones sorpresas. Pero sobre todo, hay al menos 2 ó 3 cosas que no están explicadas o no lo suficiente, al menos.
Los dibujos tampoco ayudan demasiado (¿o serán las tintas?). Me parecieron un poco duros. Una pena porque las portadas están muy bien.
El desenlace lo encontré muy simple, casi predecible. Y el final propiamente dicho, hace un (mal) esfuerzo por ser profundo y hacer pensar. Lamentablemente, aquellas cosas sobre las que quiere hacerte pensar, estàn muy mal y poco desarrolladas en los seis números, por lo que leer las 3 últimas páginas es una mezcla de aburrimiento y comprobación de que había buenas intenciones, pero falló la ejecución.
Me voy a sacar este mal sabor de boca releyendo una de las mejores historias fuera de continuidad (bueno, ya es canon). Kingdome Come.
July 27, 2018
I really liked this. One of the best things about Elseworlds style comics is that they give writers the flexibility to manipulate characters we know well and thrust them into situations they wouldn't normally find themselves in or make decisions we would never expect from them. They're a risky type of storytelling, but often come out far better than you would expect. This is the case with Kyle Higgin's Nightwing: The New Order.
The world in The New Order sure is an interesting one. I found it hard not to compare this to the Injustice series. If you put Nightwing into Superman's position in Injustice, but make him far more human and easy to rationalise with, you'll kind of get what The New Order is all about. The New Order paints a gritty world that sees the majority of superheroes powerless, thanks to the actions of Nightwing. The reason behind his choice is a compelling plot thread that plays out over the course of the story and Higgins shows a deft hand in justifying Dick's surprising decisions.
I love that they chose Higgins to write this. He established himself as a great Nightwing writer with his New 52 Nightwing arc, showing insight into what makes the character work. The story in The New Order is benefited by using someone who has already spent time getting into the character's head.
The New Order is the perfect way for Higgins to return to Nightwing. It's different and will no doubt be controversial towards some readers who have a firm imprint of how Dick should act (and the rest of the supporting cast in this comic). However, for anyone looking for something a little different to your typical Nightwing/DC story, this should be a welcome surprise.
The world in The New Order sure is an interesting one. I found it hard not to compare this to the Injustice series. If you put Nightwing into Superman's position in Injustice, but make him far more human and easy to rationalise with, you'll kind of get what The New Order is all about. The New Order paints a gritty world that sees the majority of superheroes powerless, thanks to the actions of Nightwing. The reason behind his choice is a compelling plot thread that plays out over the course of the story and Higgins shows a deft hand in justifying Dick's surprising decisions.
I love that they chose Higgins to write this. He established himself as a great Nightwing writer with his New 52 Nightwing arc, showing insight into what makes the character work. The story in The New Order is benefited by using someone who has already spent time getting into the character's head.
The New Order is the perfect way for Higgins to return to Nightwing. It's different and will no doubt be controversial towards some readers who have a firm imprint of how Dick should act (and the rest of the supporting cast in this comic). However, for anyone looking for something a little different to your typical Nightwing/DC story, this should be a welcome surprise.
November 19, 2018
Actual rating: 3.5 stars
For anyone confused, this is an Elseworlds and has no bearing on main DC continuity. Why DC took away their Elseworlds label, I don't know.
I love stories where there's an issue that isn't fully black and white, and Nightwing: The New Order delivers that. 12 years ago, more and more people were getting superpowers; not everyone was using them for good. During a battle in Metropolis that raged for days and killed thousands of people, Dick Grayson activated a device that took away 90% of the world's superpowers. The world became a safer place to live. Now, those 10% who kept their powers have to take an inhibitor drug or get arrested. If this drug doesn't work, they have to go into stasis until scientists can make an inhibitor drug for them. Problem is, no one has ever come out of stasis before. Dick is the head of the company that makes and enforces the inhibitor drug and stasis, so when his own son develops powers that are resistant to the drug, Dick has to question whether what he's doing is really right.
This isn't exactly a Nightwing story - it's more like a Dick Grayson story. We know Dick Grayson is a good person, and as the story progresses we get more insight into why he did what he did. The art is well-done, although I found some panels confusing, and the dialogue is fine. I wish there was more backstory for one event involving Batman because it sounds really interesting and is pretty important to Nightwing's character, but it isn't really explained. Definitely a story to check out if you're a fan of Nightwing or moral dilemmas.
For anyone confused, this is an Elseworlds and has no bearing on main DC continuity. Why DC took away their Elseworlds label, I don't know.
I love stories where there's an issue that isn't fully black and white, and Nightwing: The New Order delivers that. 12 years ago, more and more people were getting superpowers; not everyone was using them for good. During a battle in Metropolis that raged for days and killed thousands of people, Dick Grayson activated a device that took away 90% of the world's superpowers. The world became a safer place to live. Now, those 10% who kept their powers have to take an inhibitor drug or get arrested. If this drug doesn't work, they have to go into stasis until scientists can make an inhibitor drug for them. Problem is, no one has ever come out of stasis before. Dick is the head of the company that makes and enforces the inhibitor drug and stasis, so when his own son develops powers that are resistant to the drug, Dick has to question whether what he's doing is really right.
This isn't exactly a Nightwing story - it's more like a Dick Grayson story. We know Dick Grayson is a good person, and as the story progresses we get more insight into why he did what he did. The art is well-done, although I found some panels confusing, and the dialogue is fine. I wish there was more backstory for one event involving Batman because it sounds really interesting and is pretty important to Nightwing's character, but it isn't really explained. Definitely a story to check out if you're a fan of Nightwing or moral dilemmas.
December 2, 2019
Nightwing: the New Order by Kyle Higgins and Trevor McCarthy
Nothing to really write home about. It’s a decent elseworlds story featuring Dick as he becomes the face of the new world - a dystopian future that is devoid (or at least trying to be) of meta-humans. In this story Bruce is already out of the picture, but we still see a few familiar faces. As with most elseworlds stories, people tend to act a little bit ‘out of character’, but it usually has to be done this way for something like this to work.
As the story progresses we realize that Dick is not only responsible for creating this new status quo, but also responsible for maintaining it. All hell breaks loose when Dick has to go against the system he helped create when it becomes clear that those same laws and rules would be hurting someone he care about…which is pretty hypocritical to say the least. The story also features some other relevant (to Dick) characters like the Titans and other nice surprises. Overall, however, it’s not the greatest elseworlds story out there and it becomes highly predictable once the ’twist’ (if we want to call it that) gets revealed. It was still an enjoyable ride after that, though. I think the art is ok. Nothing amazing, but better than the story itself. I think McCarthy does a good job at selling this new future without risking it be ‘too dark’. The character design is solid, the colors pop, and the action is well drawn.
Overall, it’s just okay. 6/10 for me in story and 7/10 in the art department.
Nothing to really write home about. It’s a decent elseworlds story featuring Dick as he becomes the face of the new world - a dystopian future that is devoid (or at least trying to be) of meta-humans. In this story Bruce is already out of the picture, but we still see a few familiar faces. As with most elseworlds stories, people tend to act a little bit ‘out of character’, but it usually has to be done this way for something like this to work.
As the story progresses we realize that Dick is not only responsible for creating this new status quo, but also responsible for maintaining it. All hell breaks loose when Dick has to go against the system he helped create when it becomes clear that those same laws and rules would be hurting someone he care about…which is pretty hypocritical to say the least. The story also features some other relevant (to Dick) characters like the Titans and other nice surprises. Overall, however, it’s not the greatest elseworlds story out there and it becomes highly predictable once the ’twist’ (if we want to call it that) gets revealed. It was still an enjoyable ride after that, though. I think the art is ok. Nothing amazing, but better than the story itself. I think McCarthy does a good job at selling this new future without risking it be ‘too dark’. The character design is solid, the colors pop, and the action is well drawn.
Overall, it’s just okay. 6/10 for me in story and 7/10 in the art department.
February 19, 2018
It seems like DC has abandoned the Elseworlds label, because this is certainly an Elseworlds book. It posits a universe where Nightwing stops yet another all-out, superhero against superhero fight by releasing a weapon designed to take away their powers. He's expecting a son now, and he believes the solution to this endless cycle of destruction is to level the playing field by monitoring meta humans. A serum is invented to suppress powers, and anyone who still have their powers has to take regular injections. Those who aren't are tracked down and injected and arrested for their disobedience. They're the lucky ones.
Some meta humans are immune to the serum, and these unfortunate few are taken, put into stasis, to be studied until scientists can find a new solution. Well, 12 years have passed and there still hasn't been much progress. 12 years is also enough time for Dick Grayson's son, Jake to grow up and have his powers manifest. And, to his horror, Jake doesn't respond to the serum.
Some meta humans are immune to the serum, and these unfortunate few are taken, put into stasis, to be studied until scientists can find a new solution. Well, 12 years have passed and there still hasn't been much progress. 12 years is also enough time for Dick Grayson's son, Jake to grow up and have his powers manifest. And, to his horror, Jake doesn't respond to the serum.
March 16, 2020
This wasn't really one of those big "event" comics, more like one of those Elseworlds tales. Which in a way is too bad because there was a lot more that could have been covered in this. The concept is that during an epic superhero/supervillain battle in Metropolis, Nightwing uses an Apokolips weapon to suddenly take away almost all superhero powers. And in the process it makes him the figurehead of an anti-metahuman task force called the Crusaders.
But like 12 years later, Dick's son starts showing superhuman abilities, which puts him at odds against the machine he helped to create.
Had this been one of those big "events" like the somewhat similar "Future's End" a few years back there could have been an issue for every main DC title to give us an idea what happened to that character. But with only 5-6 issues total, it only scratches the surface on what happened to everyone. Still, what was there was good.
BTW, if you want to read something similar, check out former Grayson and Batman writer Tom King's "A Once Crowded Sky."
But like 12 years later, Dick's son starts showing superhuman abilities, which puts him at odds against the machine he helped to create.
Had this been one of those big "events" like the somewhat similar "Future's End" a few years back there could have been an issue for every main DC title to give us an idea what happened to that character. But with only 5-6 issues total, it only scratches the surface on what happened to everyone. Still, what was there was good.
BTW, if you want to read something similar, check out former Grayson and Batman writer Tom King's "A Once Crowded Sky."
June 4, 2019
At a dystopian level, the volume was interesting and the setting in this kind of future worked nicely. As it's a Elseworlds story, the need for a background knowledge wasn't necessary, but there were many characters from the DCU who aren't full Bats (stuff like Superman or Green Lantern) so it felt a little crowded with people I didn't care about at some points. Otherwise, I found the premise really interesting and the writer did a good job with Grayson's characterization. It was easy to understand the choices he made, even if they were difficult, and the battle between heart and reason seemed realistic enough. I also liked the boy and thought he was a great addition to the Bat-family.
The art was very good, with some portraits that were candy for the eyes, nicely done backgrounds and pleasant colors.
The art was very good, with some portraits that were candy for the eyes, nicely done backgrounds and pleasant colors.
November 9, 2021
This was a cool Elseworlds/out-of-continuity story, where Nightwing ends up doing something in the future that takes away all the world’s powers (mostly). It’s a fun hypothetical, and reminds me of Marvel’s Civil War. You can understand the reasoning of both sides (pro-power or anti), and as surprising as it is to see some characters end up where they are, it’s interesting nonetheless. Dick can be frustrating in this one, but he’s also just a man trying to the right thing for others. The ending felt a little quick somehow, but I don’t know what I would’ve done differently. The bold, saturated artwork is fun to look at, and highlighted the future redesigns of the many DC denizens that make an appearance. I would recommend to fans of What If? type stories, or fans of Nightwing/Titans.
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