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Will Stel Caine rise from the depths to become first human in millennia to set foot on the surface of the Earth? Who is the relentless Minister of Thought on a quest to put an end to Stel's attempt to restore the light to a dying world?

Collecting: Low 7-10

112 pages, Paperback

First published October 21, 2015

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Rick Remender

1,242 books1,420 followers
Rick Remender is an American comic book writer and artist who resides in Los Angeles, California. He is the writer/co-creator of many independent comic books like Black Science, Deadly Class, LOW, Fear Agent and Seven to Eternity. Previously, he wrote The Punisher, Uncanny X-Force, Captain America and Uncanny Avengers for Marvel Comics.

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Profile Image for Chad.
10.3k reviews1,060 followers
March 29, 2021
This is a great premise for a book. Humans headed underwater as the sun grew hotter and hotter. Hundreds of years later society has grown decadent and without morals.

I would have given the book five stars if it wasn't for Greg Tochini's art. When it's finished it's pretty good, but it's frequently just sketches. At this point it is extremely difficult to tell characters apart which made for a confusing narrative. Tochini also seems obsessed with drawing women topless. There's an entire fight scene that goes on for several pages where the woman's coat comes off. At this point, she's covered in complete armor except for her boobs. It serves no purpose to the story. It's just odd.
Profile Image for Sanaa.
458 reviews2,536 followers
September 16, 2019
[3.5 Stars] I liked this one, but it didn't have the same emotional impact that the first volume did. I also felt like the message this volume tried to hit home was a little too obvious. The dialogue didn't feel particularly natural. If this graphic volume had been a bit longer I think that would not have been the case. The story arcs in general seemed a bit short. Overall, I still really enjoyed this one. The art continues to be absolutely stunning.
Profile Image for Donovan.
734 reviews106 followers
November 19, 2016


"What is the point of anything without art or stories?"

This book attempted to answer that question and failed, I think, perhaps because it's rhetorical, yet another "fuck you" in the theme of crushing despair and hopelessness. The story has now gone full blown woowoo philosophy, forcing self-reflection and "brighter side" optimism on the reader, all the while making nihilism and pessimism that much more real. Whatever optimism is intentional is completely undermined by chaos, death, and mistakes repeatedly made as a result of the tragedy of the human condition. How's that for hope in a book called Low, where everyone struggles, and looming is the ever-increasing threat of the sun burning everyone alive? The one thing these characters have going for them is perseverance. And hey, there's blockbuster action! So what little subtlety Volume 1 possessed is now gone and I can't say I like it.

Stel, the mother, whines about losing hope then preaches about the power of positive thought. Which is it? For a character constantly talking about positivity she sure can make you feel LOW, even succumbing, momentarily, to a deep sea creature who symbolizes suicide. Feeling better yet?

Della, the younger daughter, was kidnapped by fascists. Turns out she now squashes hope and free thought for a living. She even has the choice to do the right thing, and she doesn't. Inspiring! And why does she have no shirt on? No sheer spandex, no nipply tank top, just totally exposed boobs. Now that's subtle. And totally needless. Just an excuse for boobs. Thanks, Male Illustrator, for not objectifying women and alienating female readers.

Great, Remender's pessimism is rubbing off on me. Okay, glass half full...this wasn't the worst. Apart from the hope-destroying, soul-crushing nihilism, the blockbuster action, the boobs, and some artwork muddiness, it's enjoyable on some level. Tocchini is a talented illustrator but not my favorite. Apart from the heavy-handed and, in my opinion, failed philosophy lesson, I just want to know what the hell happens and what's in that space probe. I don't think each character's philosophical outlook is as vital to the story as Remender wants. So overall not as happy, hopeful, deep or memorable as it could have been. Yet I'm somehow optimistic for Volume 3. It can't get worse...right?
Profile Image for Kristen.
167 reviews80 followers
May 29, 2018

This volume suffered from the same problem as volume 1. In volume 1, the mother had a bad case of being way too optimistic. It was to the point that it felt exceedingly forced due to how many times it was mentioned. This volume improved slightly in that the optimism was not mentioned quite so frequently, yet when it did appear, it still felt very forced. Like, "oh, everything is super totally shitty right now, but I'm going to end up being ultra positive anyways" type of way. I am all for perseverance and seeing the bright side, but it's just too false in this volume. If the optimism wasn't sooOOOooOOo obvious, I would have probably enjoyed this a lot more.

Another pet peeve?

One definite pro: the art. I really, really, really, love it. And the colors are just...*sigh*

Also, I liked the majority of the story line. So there's that.
Profile Image for Michael.
25 reviews164 followers
December 2, 2015
Reasons Why I Gave This 4 Stars:

(1) Not much story development. The other Caine sister was introduced, as well as the icy city in which she grew up, but not much else happened.

(2) Female nudity. There's really no point. In one scene, the Caine daughter's uniform gets ripped and her breasts are on full display. For. No. Reason. Number of instances of male nudity? Absolutely none.
Profile Image for Jonathan.
109 reviews23 followers
October 5, 2016
"When we stop taking pleasure in the basic experience of being alive, beat-by-beat, we lose everything that makes life worthwhile."

Remender's story takes a small step back for me here. The real beauty of this series continues to be the art of Tocchini.



Some of his panels are absolute masterpieces.

Profile Image for Kitty G Books.
1,684 reviews2,973 followers
February 19, 2017
This was my penultimate read for #GettingGraphic and I think it was a really enjoyable one. The artwork in this series is beautiful and I just love the underwater setting and the forms that allows.

The story of this world is one of an oppressed and hopeless nation who just want to leave and go where they may be safe, but the oppressors aren't happy and so many people are slaves etc. It's beautiful and passionate and filled with rage. 4*s
Profile Image for Olha.
367 reviews156 followers
March 1, 2024
Ні, не моє.
Profile Image for James DeSantis.
Author 17 books1,205 followers
September 15, 2023
New review: pretty much the same thoughts. Dark and fucked up but through it we don't give it hope. The mom is so good in this, and the daughters are so well balanced with being morally gray.

Original Review:

This made me so sad...because this book is fucking depression...I love it. I really freaking love it. Life is a bitch, yet the main character never let's that stop her. A mother who wants nothing more than to unite her kids together. Fight back. Be strong. However, bad shit happens. Again and again. Never to be freaking happy but it makes it addicting. My only gripe is this needed a least one more issue. Way to small but overall still engaging like the first volume.
Profile Image for Michael Finocchiaro.
Author 3 books6,264 followers
February 27, 2017
The artwork in Low is great, but the story is incredibly hard to follow. It is also hard to find a particular character to get attached to in this series. While the first volume was interesting in terms of premise, this second one seems to sort of walk in place for me plot-wise and the graphics seem to distract from the plot and character development.
Profile Image for Matt Smith.
305 reviews16 followers
April 25, 2017
This is more or less a followup review. For the review of Vol 1, click here.

So was Vol 2 any better?

No.

I mean, look. There's a part of this book where one of the characters (a male character, surprise surprise) is given a backstory to share and it involves him talking about his gambling addiction and how it got so bad he literally sold his family into slavery. It was so bad I truly, honestly, laughed out loud at how ridiculous that was. It was hilarious because it was so completely insane.

So that's where I started at.

Fine. I'll be fair. This is marginally better. But it was still horribly, horrifically offensive in the same way Vol 1 was. It's got the same casual, probably unwitting misogyny. It's got the same issue where male characters are given vastly more focus and interest than the ostensible main female characters. The nudity is possibly more gratuitous here. There's a sequence where one of the main women (Stel's daughter Dela) has to go on the lam from the law and her coat burns off sos he does the whole fight and chase sequence topless while the men all get to dress normal. (Disclaimer: my comic book club came to a reading of this as the coat being a metaphor for her job in the art police and it burning off being a symbol of that stripped away from her, but that metaphor is not really super clear until you start dissecting it so it's poorly done and leaves a bad taste in the mouth...)

But the issues are still here, except this rapidly reaches a place of being both misogynistic and misery porn. And these two feed into each other in vicious cycles in ways the previous volume didn't.

Something changed here. After the death of Marik in the last volume Stel spends the two issues of screen time in this volume dealing with that loss and being obsessed with not being able to go on any more. At a purely base level, sure, Stel is doubting her one character flaw and has to come back around on it. So... growth? But it just feels like pure misery. The relentless, emotional beatdown that Stel and Dela go through are just..... savage. And I get why it's there. I get it. I get that the best way to show optimism is to rip away all the things that you have and crush the hope out of someone, but... this book wears its theme so hard on its sleeve that it.... doesn't have any stakes. We know that they will come back around and be the hopeful and the optimistic. So it's not... an issue?

It's a problem when a book so ostensibly about hope, that features Remender writing a main character like this, having this be his main thematic push, and it feels like he only talks the talk as opposed to walking the walk. Hope in this book is an abstract idea, preached but not with any sort of inherent conviction or belief. Yes it ends with Stel having a grand monologue about what she learned and about hope itself, but that monologue just exposes that this is a book written by a guy who doesn't seem to understand what hope or optimism is. He's new at this, and yet he conveys the topic as though he's some kind of enlightened individual preaching a gospel. Hope might have changed his life, but given that he is a writer and his job is conveying a particular emotion, feeling, etc. I can only say that his ability to convey this massive change in his outlook does not come across here. It doesn't come across so much, in fact, that it makes me question whether or not he's actually found what he says he's found.

These are all larger problems, but larger problems make me notice smaller problems. Like. For example. If this is SO FAR into the future that this is happening... why do humans have five fingers on each hand? I mean truly. Is humanity really doomed to be so static from now until then? Remender wants to create this whole world or whatever but it strains believability in the highest. I mean, a city in which art is illegal because it gives hope is... an interesting concept, but it is so unbelievably ham-handed and unbelievable that it took me right out of the story.

God. Never again, you guys.
Profile Image for Leo Robertson.
Author 39 books499 followers
October 11, 2016
Nothing so special about the story (totalitarian dystopia etc.), but the art is awesome.

There were moments when I was even reminded of Hybrid Heaven, which if you haven't played it is this game for the N64 that has this feeling of epic bleak underground loneliness that nothing I can think of has ever successfully recreated. I'll take a sliver of that any time!
Profile Image for Craig.
2,883 reviews32 followers
October 7, 2016
Lovely artwork, but the preachy tone is very off-putting. Usually a big fan of Remender's work, but this isn't one of his better titles.
Profile Image for Wing Kee.
2,091 reviews37 followers
March 13, 2018
Uplifting and amazing.

World: The art is fantastic, I still think that it is still too scratchy at time and details are lost but the sense of motion, the creativity of the panels and the beautiful amazing colors makes up for that. This book is gorgeous and a think all it’s own. The world building not only is visually stunning but also narratively solid. We don’t get any info dumping at all and what we get through flash backs and the insane action is a world that’s at the edge and lost all hope. A hopeless world where hope is something to be stamped out. The manifesto that is this book and Stel being the vessel can get a tad melodramatic and on the nose but in this case it really works.

Story: A book about hope in the time of hopelessness and when all things point to having hope as something insane and pointless and that we should all just accept the fact and sink. Yes the name of the series is on the nose, the book is on the nose and the characters are on the nose but with that and the consistent all in nature of the book the story works and the message is actually quite uplifting. This is a continuation of Stel’s story but it is also at the same time the story of hope for the next generation, a story of Tajo and Della. The story uses a cold opening for Della and it is handled so well. This is a morally bankrupt world where the good are seen as the wrong and it really is upside down and low as humanity can possibly go. The story here is fast, it hit’s hard and it’s hopeful…wonderfully, unapologeticly hopeful, and I love it.

Characters: Stel is the Superman of this universe, she’s the beacon, she’s the believer and everything rises with her and are brought up by her. Her arc is not deep, it’s very instinctual and that’s fine because she allows for all the other fantastic characters in the book to react with her (just like a good Superman story). Tajo and Della are also fantastic and with Della’s story it’s great, it’s dark and dirty and grey but she is still such a fantastic character. They are awesome.

I love this book, it’s like a concept album it’s like a rock opera, it has a clear message and it’s loud and brash and unapologetic about it and I love it for that.

Onward to the next book!
Profile Image for Alla Komarova.
461 reviews315 followers
January 23, 2024
Не сподобалося. Черговий випадок, коли чиїсь відгуки створюють завищені очікування, а я потім мучайсо.

☕️Мені "продали" цей мальопис розлогими філософськими роздумами, що тут дуже тонко відображений стан депресії та безнадії, та виборсування з них. Що це прям справжня добре продумана постапокаліптика із одою Надії. Що це справжній естетичний феномен.

🍆Прутень там плавав всі три рази!

Найбанальніша собі оповідь-подорож до втраченого Раю із вайбом середньовіччя у плані "хто сильніший, то й татко". Просто перемістити все це у:
📍антураж Півночі
📍антураж пустелі
📍антураж замків та острівних держав
📍антураж двох сусідніх будинків
не зміниться абсолютно ні-чо-го.

☕️Відчуття, що все проходить на нев'єбенних глибинах у товщі океану, ніц немає. Розповіді про те, що там, ближче до поверхні, сильна радіація, яка й вигнала їх всіх на дно, тут же нівелюються ідіотичною ідею "а давайте піднімемося і подивимося, там супутник впав, що 18 тисяч років на орбіті висів, а раптом він приніс координати планети для життя?" 🍌

На цьому місці я вже наліпила на лоба пластиря, бо витримати цей градус тупняку було неможливо.

🌭Полярні ведмеді, на яких верхи катаються вдягнуті у мєха мешканці ГЛИБОКОПІДВОДНОГО, сцуко, світу, добили мене остаточно.

🕯І при всьому цьому воно ще й намальовано відсотків на 50 якимось стилем з дрижаками, наче людина з неврастенією намагалася опанувати мистецтво спокою і марно старалася втрапити у контур.

👙Перший том отримав три зірочки чисто за хтиві сцени і за колір.
🍑Другий і того не отримав, бо самі на своїх ведмедів шлікайте.
Profile Image for SiJay.
64 reviews9 followers
July 16, 2022
2 1/2 stars. I didn’t care for the story in this one, and the art was a lot harder to follow. I shouldn’t have to study a block for ages to understand what’s happening. It’s too bad since I liked how the first volume started. I might be putting this on the back burner for now and continue with it another time.
Profile Image for Ronald.
1,454 reviews16 followers
May 13, 2024
If you love bare chested women and women who constantly come out of their tops, then boy is this comic for you - nipples galore! Which is funny because the first volume seemed to go out of the way to show nudity but not that much in a blurry art way. Anyway...

Story is more of the same in this volume, everyone hates people with positive attitudes. So much so one of the characters is gleefully Orwellian in suppressing hope via art and words by killing the artists and writers. But at least the introductions are over (oh wait no here are more characters) and we are able to see some of the story moving along to some extent. In fact this would have been a 3 star book if not for the art. The art is so much better for display in a comic but still not there there yet. I mean I'm sorry, but I like to know what is going on in my visual media or at least be able to tell the characters apart.
1,167 reviews4 followers
July 19, 2017
Good, real good. Tried to get into this series when it first came out but didn't like the artwork. Gave it another shot & I'm glad I did, still not a big fan of the art, but the story has it's hooks in me. Looking forward to Vol.3!
Profile Image for Daniel.
622 reviews16 followers
September 10, 2018
We continue the story of Stel Caine here and her dangerous mission to return to the abandoned and toxic surface. This book details more heavy plot points and environments that the group has to battle through. The pirate they have with them sacrifices himself when the group are fighting vampiric uplifts, almost like human and eel combinations. They also have the Minister of Thought to contend with and all his crazy machinations.
This book was great! I really enjoyed the writing here, though the art suits it very much, it still can get a little blurry and hard to make out in places, but for some reason it works on this book. I can't wait to read volume 3 to see how the surface encounter unfolds!

Danny
Profile Image for Elizabeth A.
2,151 reviews119 followers
March 17, 2016
This volume collects issues #7-10.

I started of this series by complaining about what I did not like in my review of the first volume, and I liked this one even less. So, this story now has underwater thunder dome like scenes? Puhlease. And while I have absolutely no issues with nudity and scantily clad women, why the hell are all the men dressed as if for the Siberian winter? What's good for the goose is good for the gander no? There is also too much of a preachy, quasi-religious, positive-thinking-will-solve-all-problems tone to these books for my tastes. So while I love the premise of this series, it does not work for me on any level, and after this one, I'm out.
Profile Image for Václav.
1,127 reviews44 followers
April 30, 2023
(4,0 for the great action-adventure)
The story continues in the next four issues. This time I managed to read it almost in one session, the story unveils excellently and the comic gives us a lot of questions at this point. Will the sisters be reunited with their mother soon? Will their terrible past affect their loyalty? What about that wasp nation? Is there a peaceful approach? Why the art is so terrible when the pencils are that good? Same questions, but no answers yet. So let's find some time for the next book.
Profile Image for Miguel.
98 reviews3 followers
August 14, 2016
Rick Remender is perfect to create books with good concepts, characters interaction and drama! Low vol.2 is an amazing example of that. Its all about the characters and their interactions. Characters really different from each other, with a unique voice and with motivations very well defined. If you like that, read it!

The only problem: only 4 issues in this volume -.-

Profile Image for RG.
3,084 reviews
April 7, 2020
Read this over 2 reads butnit didnt seem to grab me. If im on the fence with Vol 1 I like to read Vol 2 just in case. Pretty much the same issues I had with Vol 1. Story was really confusing, I honestly dont think much happened in this one. The artwork had improved with its colour selections but Tocchinis art is sketchwork, so it sometimes doest feel finished. Wont be finishing this off.
Profile Image for Frank.
888 reviews26 followers
February 6, 2017
A bit of a let down from the set up in Vol. 1, changes settings and goes on land.
I will still read in order to find out what happens. Hopefully, the story will pick up a bit.
Profile Image for Bandit.
4,944 reviews578 followers
November 11, 2021
It’s nice when a person finds an idea, a way of life, really, that works for them. It’s obnoxious and tedious when they begin to proselytize it. And so, while on a personal level you can be easily thrilled for the author to find his groove with his ideology of hope, as a reader of his work it’s easy to be tired with it or get put off by it. Because outside of being super excited to share his ways with you, Remender is also a huge fan of laying it on thick, thick, thick, like Paula Deen and butter.
It’s possible he just isn’t that good of a writer, I’ve read his Seven to Eternity comics and wasn’t impressed either, but objectively he’s serviceable. It’s the message and his gung-ho ways of presenting it that are too much.
There’s a profound imbalance in Low books, the art dramatically outshines the story. The art, while busy and liberally seasoned with gratuitous nudity, is complex and striking in its attention to detail. The art creates worlds. Remender just populates them.
In book two the ridiculously young-looking baby mama Stel continues on her mission to the surface of the world while contending with various people and creatures populating the waters in-between her and the surface. We also get to find out the fate of one of her baby girls, now all grown up and murderous, working for the evil society that…surprise, surprise…persecutes hope. Because it’s all about hope.
Actually, at first the story kind of eases up on it, but then Remender seems to notice this uncharacteristic subtlety and goes to get his soapbox, meaning the very end of this volume literally reads like something taken out of a self-help book. Oh boy.
Go in for the art and consider the story secondary and the writing a distant third, if you must. It’s how I do it. It’s a quick read that should have been way more fun.

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Profile Image for Jenny Clark.
3,225 reviews121 followers
May 16, 2018
The backgrounds are again pretty good, the people are kinda indistinct though. It's hard to explain but they don't seem like different people, they almost are just a stock cut out dressed differently and with different hair and eye colors.
I did like the mer vampire things, though how radiation does that, yea no clue.
Over all, it is still just an ok series. The underwater parts are pretty, and the idea behind it is original, it just lacks that something for me.
Profile Image for Ryan Michael .
100 reviews34 followers
January 23, 2018
Not as sweepingly beautiful as volume one (what could be) but I still really liked this and will continue on to volume three. I’ll also say that if you are thinking about giving this a try, pick up volume one, and read part one, and feel as though the story will be predictable, hang in there, because the rest of the story is unexpected, heartbreaking and hopeful
Profile Image for Scott.
353 reviews5 followers
November 15, 2017
Wow. Truly an incredible collection in the LOW series. Remender advances the story quite well while grippingly writing about issues of art censorship, trust and perseverance. The art and colorwork, as always, by Tocchini / McCaig is astounding. If you enjoy a storyline that is not all spelled out, but rather leaves fodder in your head to play around with, this series is definitely for you.
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