A new volume collecting NIGHTWING #118-124! One year after the events of INFINITE CRISIS, there are two Nightwings on the prowl in New York — and one is a murderous madman! Now the twin crime bosses the Pierce Brothers want the head of Nightwing, and they don't care which one!
(C+) 66% | Almost Satisfactory Notes: A lamentable, careless genre grotesque, it reads like shoddy fanfiction, capable only of diminishment and perversion.
This was a semi interesting premise that was poorly executed. Like the kind of execution that makes me wonder if anyone bothered to follow what was being done here?
Jason and Dick have a wonderful dynamic. This is a storyline that could have worked had they gotten a writer that cared about what was going on? Instead, this was given poor art, awful writing and some of the worst dialogue?
Not to mention, there’s a point where Jones posits that Dick would’ve wished the Joker actually killed Jason? I don’t care if it’s treated like a joke; Dick would never joke about that.
It’s such a shame bc, in better hands, this could’ve been great and painful and angsty
Pretty good! So after seeing some friends on GR reading this, I thought I would give a read. Technically I have read parts of it, as I had a few random Nightwing back issues in my collection, but I have never read the full thing till now. So the story has Dick Grayson return to the mantle of Nightwing after disappearing at the end of Infinite Crisis; which after that event many of the DC titles jumped to One Year Later. Dick has now set up shop in New York, only to find someone is impersonating his persona, which we know is Jason Todd (I mean they tell you in the opening pages of the first issue).
I do like the Dick vs Jason aspect the book plays up; its always been interesting seeing the two main Robins who are very different, clash with one another, similar in other books like Battle for the Cowl. The story is enjoyable for the most part, had a bit of Under the Red Hood vibe about it, except its Nightwing having to deal with Jason and his psychotic behavior.
What I didn't like were the main villains, they just weren't really all that interesting to be honest. I would of much preferred Jason to be the villain and the final battle being a showdown between him and Dick. It would have given the story more personal and tension filled stakes. The art also isn't the best, I wasn't a fan of the original artist at first, but the art did grow on me; but just as it did, the book had an art change which didn't suit the story I felt :(
Overall this was a fun enough Nightwing story for me to recommend, but its not anything special.
Who are you and what have you done with Dick Grayson?! I guess it is fitting that the plot involves a couple of other people putting on the Nightwing uniform, because this "Dick Grayson" isn't like the one I know. Terrible characterization. The one part of this volume I did like was the "Nightwing gets therapy" subplot. I love the Batfamily, but they could all use the same.
When Bruce Jones stepped in to write Nightwing, I thought this might be good. I like his Hulk anyway. Then I noticed his run barely lasts a few issues, and it's clear why: this direction is a freaking mess. First, Dick Grayson proposes to Barbara Gordon, only for her to be replaced immediately with yet another redhead, but this one has superpowers. Seriously? Why bother with this kind of drastic change when the previous relationship was such a strong element to both their characters? WHY?
As if that wasn't enough, they decide to bring Red Hood into the mix—only this time, he's dressing up as Nightwing and killing people. Listen, this is just a stupid fucking plot and god Red Hood is so annoying here.
But wait, there’s more! We get a pair of twin brothers who happen to be villains, just to add a little more chaos to an already-- You know what.
It’s honestly the worst Nightwing arc I've read, if not for the nightmare that was the "Ric" Grayson run, this would be the worst of the worst. A 1/5 at best.
Nightwing meets The Red Hood as Nightwing and let me just say that Dick Grayson gets more ass than any superhero character I've ever seen. That dude spends more time out of his spandex than in it.
I don't know what he says, that person in this book is not Dick Grayson. This is an absolute travesty and just horrible horrible horrible. Without a doubt one of the worst comics I have ever read. I can't think of a single redeeming feature, seriously. I have no idea what DC were thinking by publishing this.
I've never liked Dick Grayson as Nightwing, so I've never really followed his solo series. All of my knowledge of the character comes from the Teen Titans and Outsiders books. Having seen some of the reviews below, evidently Bruce Jones made some serious mistakes in Grayson's characterization. So it seems that die-hards will not agree with my review of what I believe to be a stellar stand-alone volume.
I think what Jones is doing here is trying to distance Dick from Bruce, but also make him more like Bruce at the same time. Injecting some of Bruce's playboy mannerisms into Dick and making him a little less likable (if that's even possible) as a real person. What he also did was give Dick another redhead to play with so we can get past this whole Barbara Gordon thing that other writers keep gnawing on and coming back to like an old blanky they just can't throw away. So Dick is trying to live without Bruce or his money and just be himself and I like where the book is headed under Jones.
My biggest complaint isn't with Dick being in a fashion show. Get over it. He's a handsome dude, a gypsy and an acrobat and can totally pull off the charming playboy or rogue thing. It's a great way to take Dick out of his comfort zone.
My biggest complaint is with the villains and the fact that Cheyenne has to help out with this case. I'd like to see Nightwing take on some psychopaths instead of powered villains- just not Deathstroke. Been done to death. What Nightwing needs is a few Joker-syled villains. There's just no detecting in these books, its all acrobatics and high kicks. Where's the man who grew up under the wing of Batman? Where's the smarts?
All in all, Dick ain't Batman. And I guess that's my real problem with Nightwing. Other writers have tried to take him so far away from the Bat that he's just not that interesting anymore. Jones tries to rein him back in and it works. New readers will like this book. Old readers seem to hate it.
Bruce Jones brings Dick Grayson to the Big Apple in this collection of Nightwing. With Bludhaven destroyed during Infinite Crisis, Nightwing has moved to New York City for a fresh start. Unfortunately for him, former Robin Jason Todd has also opted to do the same - doling out violent vigilante justice while wearing the costume of Nightwing. As Dick attempts to pull his life back together, Jason draws them both into a battle with twin metahuman bosses that will eventually leave only one Nightwing left standing. DC continues to struggle with the Nightwing character; once again Dick Grayson is uprooted to a new town and forced to prove himself as more than Batman-lite. The decision to drop Jason Todd into the Nightwing suit also feels forced, while the inclusion of a fashion model/superhuman girlfriend and an odd metamorphic killer just mires the plot in ridiculousness. Overall, not a great restart for the Nightwing brand. Brothers in Blood is a massacre of a storyline, one that should only be undertaken by Nightwing completists.
After the last collection of Nightwing comics, this really does feel different. The art’s different, glossier and more detailed. But it seems to overlook the wedding ring that Nightwing had intended to give to a particularly special lady friend. Plus his involvement in the Infinite Crisis as well as the rumor I read that Geoff Johns spared Nightwing from a death that he could have shared with others in said storyline. My guess is that was thrown out the window and given more impact for another Teen Titan who died a glorious death.
This deals with Nightwing coming to terms with Jason Todd’s return after the events of Under the Red Hood and how Jason ends up dealing with him just like he dealt with Tim Drake in Teen Titans. Its confusing and it doesn’t develop as well as I hoped it could, especially with all these other stories.
Okay, I was thinking the bad reviews were being over dramatic, but...yeah. What the HELL was that
I was excited to see Jason and Dick interact, especially since this is really the first big time Jason's come into play since Under the Red Hood. Unfortunately, Jason acts more like the Joker, Dick couldn't care less that this man is basically his BROTHER (Even debates letting him die for a while) and is constantly calling him insane, crazy, deranged. Not exactly the compassionate Dick Grayson and the angry but focused Jason Todd I know.
There's also a boring plot with a metahuman girlfriend that seems really forced (especially the lasy nightwing outfit. Weird) and yeah, the ending with tentacle monster Jason is SUPER BIZARRE and doesn't fit whatsoever. Probably would have been better off just imagining what happens in this one
Dick feels rather out of character in this arc (I'm guessing Bruce Jones did not read 80s comics from when Dick first reacted to Jason dying, because the way Dick thinks about Jason in this is so weird), and Jason's side of it is bonkers (though I've heard that was largely because of Dan DiDio pushing for Jason to replace Dick as a more militant Nightwing). The plot feels all over the place and the new characters introduced weren't particularly engaging. The only highlight was Dick seeing/talking to Clancy again, although I thought some of the Nightwing and Clancy interactions were a bit strange. I will say, it was more tolerable than I'd thought based on how other people talked about it. But that's a low bar, it was pretty bad.
Bruce Jones tells one of the most forgettable and implausible Nightwing tells ever in this abysmal book apart of DC's One Year Later stories. We get next to nothing from the cliffhanger from last volume and instead we get a tacky Sex In The City esque book with terrible surprise after terrible surprise. Two Nightwings happen to be in New York and one's a killer. What will Dick do? The art was fine but the writing is the culprit here.
I was like "why is everyone down on this, a Jason vs Dick Nightwing showdown sounds really interesting!" and then it just....did that. all of that. Also why did everyone look like they were 45
Using this to review Bruce Jones’ Nightwing run (issues #118-124).
This was atrocious. This was so much worse than Devin Grayson’s run, even without (most of) the really offensive stuff.
Dick’s engagement to Barbara is immediately dropped with no explanation and this run opens with him in bed with some random woman who’s name he doesn’t know, when he has explicitly stated in the past that he isn’t comfortable with casual relationships with women. There could be some reasoning for this (his break up with Barbara and his trauma from Catalina) but this is never explored or explained so it just comes across as out of character.
Speaking of out of character, Dick actually wishes that Jason was still dead and seriously considers leaving him to die. Putting aside their personal relationship, this takes place immediately AFTER the comic run where he spends dozens of issues agonising about not stopping Blockbuster’s death to the point he tries to get himself killed. This is exhausting. I want to throw up.
Because Blüdhaven was destroyed, this run is set in NYC so it immediately feels generic with nothing to distinguish it. The art is incredibly ugly and either very rushed or just lazy - there are panels with newspapers IN THE FOREGROUND with gibberish lettering, repeating lines and empty grey boxes instead of images. These are also full of typos i.e. “Mell’s Gets “Hithced”. People are in each other’s “sites” not “sights”, and wait “on line” not “in line” for things. NYC is described as having a “burgeoning tourist trade”. The writing is just careless and lazy overall.
The narrative is so disjointed at times that I actually couldn’t follow what was going on, with random non-sequiturs, characters teleporting between panels, and dialogue that did not make any sense. Like, I just couldn’t parse what the characters were trying to say to each other. Reading this was incredibly frustrating, parts of it were just incomprehensible. Dick says things like “s’gonna get majorly fearful.” He just does not speak like this, I don’t understand what is happening!
The worst villains of any Nightwing comic so far are also introduced here. I actually don’t know what they were doing or why they were considered to be bad. There’s no stakes. I didn’t really care at all.
Dick has to model the Nightwing suit on the runway. There is no fashion twist on it, it’s literally just his suit. Why. Jason turns into a giant insect tentacle monster and eats somebody. Why. Dick’s casual fling moves in with him, gets a sexy female Nightwing outfit, and fights crime for a bit. Why. Dick is racist towards Roy. Why.
This comic also furthers the erasure of Dick and Kory’s romantic relationship. He says there’s only really been one woman for him (Barbara). I think that DC editorial needs to grow up and acknowledge that you can love more than one person in your life. Dick and Kory were deeply in love and committed to each other. She was his first real adult relationship. Erasing their relationship in favour of Barbara and trying to paint Dick and Barbara as childhood sweethearts does not make that relationship more special or legitimate. It’s childish and disrespects Dick and Kory as characters, treats Kory like a sex object, and disregards the New Teen Titans run where they were in a monogamous relationship for like 10 years.
This whole run is completely incompetent and rushed.
Nightwing: Brothers in Blood continues where the previous trade paperback left off collecting the next seven issues (Nightwing #118–124) of the 1996 on-going series.
"The Gang's All Here", "Pleased to Meet You – Hope You Guess My Name!", "Yours, Mind, and Ours", "Sorry I Brought That Up", and "Odd Couples" are five interconnecting one-issue storylines (Nightwing #118–122) that involves Dick Grayson as Nightwing moving to New York City where he is visited by Jason Todd. Since his year-long absence, Todd begins using the Nightwing alias and wearing a similar costume but with much darker and more violent methods. Together, they must deal with their own problems, fighting against each other while fighting together against the New York City underworld.
"Fire Down Below" and "The Apprentice" are two interconnecting one-issue storyline (Nightwing #123–124) that has Dick Grayson as Nightwing taking on Fireball – a pyromaniac and his apprentice Sparkplug from burning New York City to the ground.
Bruce Jones penned the entire trade paperback. For the most part, it is written moderately well, albeit a tad jarring at first. Within his year absence, the engagement between Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon has been broken and Jason Todd has taking up the mantle of Nightwing – a murderous one. A third Nightwing in meta-human Cheyenne Freemont and Grayson’s love interest makes her staring debut. It is an odd story and sadly the Dick Grayson vs. Jason Todd storyline wasn't executed well.
Paco Diaz (Nightwing #120–122), Joe Dodd (Nightwing #118–119), and Robert Teranishi (Nightwing #123–124) penciled the trade paperback. With so many pencilers with different styles, which didn't mesh well, has made the artistic flow rather rough. Individually, they are all wonderful pencilers, but together their strengths and weakness are made clear in contrast with each other.
All in all, Nightwing: Brothers in Blood is a good, continuation to what would hopefully be a wonderful series.
I'm very conflicted about this book because buried at the back of it is two really good chapters. But the first 2/3 suffers from ridiculous plotting and character actions that seem out of character or just plain silly (seriously, the fashion show interlude with Dick dressing up in a Nightwing homage outfit and kicking the shit out of Jason? What the hell did I just read). Waste of a good premise in the whole Jason as a psychotic Nightwing, and if you haven't read Final Crisis the whole volume comes as severe chronology whiplash.
On the other hand, the last two chapters are brilliant. Teranishi's art is amazing, fantastic lighting, character fluidity and panelling. The whole thing is plotted and scripted so much better, the characters feel like real people and the conversation between Clancy and Nightwing is tenderly done.
I just wish the first 5 chapters weren't such a trainwreck.
I've read this arc so many times, but just recently got a great copy of the trade secondhand so I thought that I'd rate it. :P
I know a lot of people hate the arc and had problems with the story (particularly Jason's...err...random/gross meta moment?), but I absolutely loved it. I thought Bruce Jones was almost on par with Chuck Dixon when it came to getting Dick's personality down and on top of that, the introduction of Cheyenne Freemont was really great. I wish she had been utilized again in the series and I'd love to see her get re-introduced in the current continuity.
Also, the art really stands out. It's better than most of the art in Nightwing V1, especially the few issues by Robert Teranishi. It's really a shame he never did much, his art felt very similar to Jock's (who did some of the covers!), but was still different. I love it. It's abstract and dramatic and sharp.
This story was pretty good. I expected it to be a little better with a full four issue run involving Jason Todd, and an appearance by Arsenal. But it was just middle of the road. That and Jason Todd was swallowed by the hideous monster and then puked out inside an amniotic pod. After the monster was blown apart from the inside out, Todd escaped. But later on he then turned into the Jason Todd version of the same hideous monster. It was quite off putting. One thing that's never off putting is Nightwing ability to pick up all these spicy red heads! I don't know how Dick Grayson gets any crime fighting done with all this ladies in waiting. Good problem to have I'm guessing.
Jason Todd continues to prove my theory that he's a completely insane psychopath and only odd numbered Robins are worth much. Dick, on the other hand, suddenly becomes my favorite member of the batfamily when he gets some therapy. They all desperately need it, so Nightwing clearly wins the most adjusted award.
A fun arc that was recommended to me on Comic Book Resources Forums. Nightwing's my favourite DC Character so I'll always read more about him, and this was an interesting book. It's got plenty of cliches but is still relatively fun and handles the two Nightwings plot well with some decent art. Good to read some non-New 52 stuff for a change.