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Rob Young investigates how the idea of folk has been handed down and transformed by successive generations - song collectors, composers, Marxist revivalists, folk-rockers, psychedelic voyagers, free festival-goers, experimental pop stars and electronic innovators.

In a sweeping panorama of Albion's soundscape that takes in the pioneer spirit of Cecil Sharp; the pastoral classicism of Ralph Vaughan Williams and Peter Warlock; the industrial folk revival of Ewan MacColl and A. L. Lloyd; the folk-rock of Fairport Convention, Sandy Denny, Nick Drake, Shirley Collins, John Martyn and Pentangle; the bucolic psychedelia of The Incredible String Band, The Beatles and Pink Floyd; the acid folk of Comus, Forest, Mr Fox and Trees; The Wicker Man and occult folklore; the early Glastonbury and Stonehenge festivals; and the visionary pop of Kate Bush, Julian Cope and Talk Talk, Electric Eden maps out a native British musical voice that reflects the complex relationships between town and country, progress and nostalgia, radicalism and conservatism.

An attempt to isolate the "Britishness" of British music - a wild combination of pagan echoes, spiritual quest, imaginative time-travel, pastoral innocence and electrified creativity - Electric Eden will be treasured by anyone interested in the tangled story of Britain's folk music and Arcadian dreams.

672 pages, Paperback

First published August 1, 2010

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Profile Image for Paul Bryant.
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May 20, 2011
Like an elephant in a hot air balloon Rob Young’s gargantuan Observer’s Book of Folk comes wafting towards us on a breeze of critical hot air. Now we have our old weird England to set beside Greil Marcus’ old weird America. Newsflash : morris now hip. This just in: folk rocks. Come out of hiding Cecil Sharp, Lucy Broadwood and Mr Fox. The amnesty has been declared. Folk is rehabilitated. Official.

Well I guess this builder’s hodsworth of paper will do for the definitive history of visionary folk and folk-inspired English and a little bit Scottish music until the real one comes along. But reading Rob Young it’s hard not to feel as if you are being beaten softly with pillows each stuffed with ten thousand feathery folk facts which escape and float about until the air is thick with facts and factlets and facticles making you snort and sneeze as you plough, hack and heave yourself through these 600 pages PLUS notes PLUS timeline PLUS bibliography. There’s a lot in here. Is this further proof that you can have too much of a good thing?

A couple of years ago, before the reissue of Just another Diamond Day and before the t-Mobile ad campaign, it’s possible that this book would not now have started off with a 30 page account of Vashti Bunyan’s rural gypsy hippy life, but this gives us a fair idea about what RY is getting at here and really, it’s not that profound. Folk music reconnects us with the past and inspires us to rethink our modern values and plugs us into the old weird England which comes percolating into your brain as soon as Pentangle begin lyke wake dirging or Forest begin their bluebell dance. Sorry, dahnce (they were posh). So the same eldritch eyesockets, green man grimaces and thrawn buttocks connect Steeleye Span back to Arnold Bax, Ralph Vaughan Williams, ley lines, Alisteir Crowley, Grimes Dyke, Gustav Holst, Kate Bush (what was that again?), William Morris, David Munrow, Nick Drake, Robin Williamson, Maiden Castle, Stonehenge, Tinhenge, Woodhenge, Woolhenge, David Sylvian and Julian Cope right back to the very first druid who drugged himself into the very fist blissful stupor and then got eaten by something unspeakable.

Rob’s loose and baggy understanding of the remarkable tentacular reach of this English (mostly) visionary thing has him describing the details of Beatles’ Strawberry Fields promo film and the plot of The Wicker Man, Peter Dickinson’s obscure novel The Changes, the laments of Rambling Syd Rumpo, Kate Bush’s first – and second – and third – and fourth albums, how modal music affected bebop… is there anything which isn’t grist to this vast grinding mill?

We’ve got to get ourselves back to the garden. This was a hippy thing. But before that it was a first-folk-revival thing. Rob thinks (and I don’t disagree) that the great era of visionary wyrd folk stuff was 68 to 72 and the throbbing heart of it all was an intensely nostalgic yearning for a time you never lived in, for a time that never existed – the Land of Cockayne, the Big Rock Candy Mountain, the misty coast of Albany, Middle Earth with better hi fi equipment, and no Disney in the enchanted forest. You can see English psychedelia steeped in this nostalgia -Penny Lane, Pink Floyd’s Syd songs, plus See Saw and Remember a Day – there are dozens of them. Folk music takes away the jazz cigarettes and granny glasses and substitutes the cruel sister, the hanged man, the demon lover, the unquiet grave, the foggy dew, yes, but it’s still a dream world fitting closely on the cultural shelf next to Lord of the Rings, Gormenghast and HP Lovecraft.

So : the narrative arc of Electric Eden goes like this. After a tour of the folk-influenced classical composers of the early 20th C – Vaughan Williams, Holst, Bax, Ireland, Warlock (unfamiliar territory to me) we then get the MacColl/Lloyd/Lomax years when folk becomes a hot political potato (a very familiar tale). As we know, McColl in Britain and Seeger & Lomax in America lost the argument and folk detached itself from crude leftwing political alignments, as can be seen in the discography of the once Communist Topic records. RY tells us that this enabled folk to rediscover its true wyrd self. That all takes 100 pages. And then begins the parade of three to ten page potted histories of Rob’s favourite folkies of the golden age. This turns out to be the usual suspects – Watersons, Shirley Collins, Pentangle, ISB, Fairport, Nick Drake – and some lesser spotted ones, like Comus and Mr Fox. This is all familiar stuff too, although there are enough meaty quotes from RY’s own interviews to make it very worthwhile. But exactly how the mod group The Action morphed into Mighty Baby and became folk sessioners and two of them were “instrumental” in the conversion to Sufiism of Richard Thompson is the kind of thing some may find fascinating but others… really won’t. There’s a whole chapter on outdoor festivals (“there was something beyond flower power at work”). That whole section is 400 pages. And finally we get some really quite unconvincing attempts to trace the whole wyrd vision thing in the work of contemporaries such as Julian Cope, David Sylvian and Talk Talk.

Some other reviewers have pointed out in unkind terms how error-prone and un-proof-read this book is. Examples: (p.263) Lord Darnell is not in Fairport’s Tam Lin but Matty Groves; there’s mention of a `twelfth Century Saxon' church (p.399); Donovan's "Gift from a Flower" LP has this song "And Clett Makes Three" when it doesn’t, and so forth. I might also point out how a reader’s teeth can be set on edge by passages such as this :

Compared to The Incredible String Band’s contemporaneous spirit odysseys, Bolan’s songs sound like an unbearably over-spiced cod-celtic gumbo, a kitsch antique store stuffed with onyx dolphins, marble satyrs, astrakhan chaises, ostrich feathers and elkhorn trumpets.

and there are some real head-scratchers ;

The passion with which the String Band addressed the quest made the mystical pretensions of other contemporaries merely sound like the honeyed crumbs of those who had no bread.

Electric Eden is some kind of achievement which may be best taken in small 50 page doses and not eaten whole like I did. After 664 pages, I’m thinking that the next wassailer, mummer or hobbyhorse at my door is going to get a bucket of molten death metal all over their jingly particoloured heads. Which would not be very visionary at all.

RATING :

Rob deserves a full five stars for effort. This boy has been working hard. But deduct one star for all the errors, and the really ridiculous all-encompassing non-theory which all of this...stuff...is strung across. Deduct another star for some horrible over-writing and a general lack of sparkling wit.

Add one star for getting off his arse and interviewing a lot of people and getting some great quotes.

Deduct the same star for frankly tiring me out. Three - that's your lot.



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Author 6 books162 followers
October 22, 2018
Folk music (= volk/blood and soil)
vs.
Pop music (= populace/bread and circuses)

In some periods there was overlap between the two, however, as Rob Young shows in this chronicle of mainly British 1970s music.
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117 reviews42 followers
January 25, 2013
This book was made for me: a grand, sprawling history of English folk music revivalism, Rob Young's Electric Eden answers something in me that dates back to my high school days and first tentative forays into British folk rock. A fearless, hugely ambitious, frankly imperfect book, Electric Eden covers a huge swath of ground, placing folk music and its culture, including offshoots like classical pastoralism, ethnomusicological preservationism, electric folk, psychedelic folk, and even fantasy fiction, in a huge, overlapping set of contexts: social, political, mystical, psychogeographical, iconographic, literary, and, yes, musical. Threading from Vaughan Williams, William Morris, and Cecil Sharp to Ewan MacColl, Davey Graham, and Shirley Collins to Fairport Convention, the Incredible String Band, and Comus, and eventually getting to topics like the Glastonbury Fayre and Aphex Twin, this book gets around, and spins an beguiling web.

There are parts of the book that bemuse and even, occasionally, frustrate, including what struck me as oddly aggressive and disapproving passages on heroes Sandy Denny and Nick Drake (Young's treatment of Pink Moon is inadequate to that great, frightening album). I wish too that Young had paid more attention to Richard Thompson's later output and not flattened Thompson's work to fit a certain thesis. Also, I wish Young had not treated the later Steeleye Span (after founder Ashley Hutchings' departure) as mere purveyors of Pop kitsch; again, he uses them to push forward a thesis, in a particularly bald, probably unfair, way. And then there are Young's tics of style, which recur a bit too often as he strives—valiantly, it must be said—to knit everything together: his search for reigning metaphors to give the chapters shape can sometimes err on the side of obviousness, and he has favorite words (lysergic!) that he leans on a bit too hard.

But, BUT, there is so much that is revelatory and mind-expanding in this book, and Young achieves such a broad, synoptic and compelling vision of British folk that I found myself thrilled more often than anything else. Electric Eden helps me understand why I love so much of this music, and that, to me, is a great gift.
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July 23, 2016
Must enjoyed, despite the author's frequent odd and over-the-top turn of phrase.

There was also my usual problem with books about music, which is profound boredom with the flood of names that mean nothing to me. No doubt they'll be fascinating to the reader who is less a dilettante than I am; the pilgrim who both knows and cares passionately about who produced the Stone Monkey's dance bits, featured in the live performace of the Incredible String Band's "U" and who played back-up gimbri on the demo pressung of Vasti Bunyon's debut album.

God bless and no points deducted.
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August 16, 2016
The brief period between 1969 and 1972 saw a flowering of British folk rock, mixing traditional songs with amplified guitars and rock’n’roll drums. But, as Rob Young points out in his study of the ‘electric folk movement’, this wasn’t the first appropriation of working-class music to (predominately) middle-class ends: that was what ‘folk’ had been about throughout the 20th century, from the moment the Edwardian Cecil Sharp transcribed and harmonised the song his gardener (appropriately named John England) was singing as he worked, and presented it that evening at a choir supper.

The key to the ‘Visionary Music’ of late-60s/early-70s folk rock is, as Young says, the ‘sensation of travel between time zones, of retreat to a secret garden, in order to draw strength and inspiration for facing the future’ — folk music’s authenticity, then, is as much a search for one’s own inner authenticity, or certainly that’s what it meant to the hippie generation that's the focus of this study.

And it’s easy to see the appeal of folk music to the intelligent, idealistic, musically-gifted youth of the time. It wasn’t just about picking up a guitar and strumming a song. There were all sorts of side-activities to get involved in. As one interviewee says: ‘we were morris dancing, clog dancing, playing instrumental music, singing ballads and songs, researching, going off to manuscript collections and working on material, original stuff that nobody else was working on.’

Clog dancing. If nothing else, you've got to admire their bravery.

It’s an impressive book. I have to say I enjoyed the first section the most, which traced the development of the idea of folk music from Cecil Sharp’s (and others’) transcribing of songs in-the-wild, to its adoption by the political left as the voice of the working classes in the 1950s and early 1960s, and then, finally, its use in more individualistic visions and interpretations in folk rock’s heyday. After that, the bulk of the book can’t help but lose that historical momentum and get a bit rock-journalistic, flinging around a lot of adjectives (‘Fishing about Architecture’, as Frank Zappa called any attempt to write about music) as it describes the key recordings. But anyway, at this point the historical narrative gets a bit diffuse with so many musicians moving between so many bands, marrying or splitting up with their fellows, going off to country houses to write new material, popping up in fellow musicians’ side projects, and so on. I lost my sense of the chronology. But this part of the story is perhaps too tangled to turn into anything except a series of individual studies.

Electric Eden is a big, thorough book that takes the influence of ‘Albion-centric, historically resonant folk-rock’ right up to the present day, with the likes of the Ghost Box label’s blend of synths and sound samples — a totally electronic music which should seem at odds with the acoustic-instrument authenticity of folk, but which certainly seems to share the same visionary spirit Young's talking about.

An excellent book. I’ll be referring to it a lot as I make my way through my now much-expanded list of albums to listen to.
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282 reviews63 followers
May 17, 2017
This is a rare gem of a book: a beautifully-written, passionately-argued history – and defence – of British folk music from its origins in the pastoral socialism of William Morris and classical composers Holst, Vaughan Williams and Delius, through to Kate Bush, Julian Cope and Talk Talk in the 1980s. The meat of the book, though, is a conversational, amusing and astute evocation of the British folk boom of 1965-74, with vivid, condensed portraits of the likes of Pentangle, Fairport Convention, John Martyn and the Incredible String Band, their origins, obsessions and place in the canon impeccably but accessibly explained and elucidated, alongside that of an abundance of odd, often forgotten contemporaries, from the bleak and furious art rock of Comus to, erm, a moonlighting Playaway presenter involved in naked pagan rituals (these sequences are occasionally laborious or tenuously linked, but far more often utterly fascinating).

Young does a simply extraordinary job of stripping away decades of murkiness and myth, tracing an elegant through-line from 1890 to the 1980s, and confronting and considering many of the questions and controversies that dog the genre, tackling supposed middle-class hijacking – and Victorian sanitisation – of working class song preserved in the oral tradition, dismantling the associated notions of ‘authenticity’ that dominated folk in the 1960s, and repeatedly defending Morris dancing (he’s a braver man than I). He writes brilliantly about music too. There are a few too many 'tendril's and 'brew's, but his ingenious use of the pastoral vernacular, and his creating of neologisms and metaphors by riffing on album titles, is a joy to read: colourful and ambitious but precise, without the meaningless pretension of, say, '80s NME, or the drab, dryly factual contextualisation which seems to serve as music journalism today. He also takes an enormous gamble (in non-fiction terms) by slipping into allegorical fiction during the Rocket Cottage chapter, a stylistic quirk that is, if not a total success, extremely memorable.

Though a few furious pedants have found errors in the book, I’d argue that it’s better to write a passionate, revelatory book casting extraordinary light on British culture than to not bother because some bores might get cross. And while – due to the subjective nature of music – it inevitably becomes at times a personal history (Young omits June Tabor, has little time for Sandy Denny’s extraordinary second album, and neglects to even mention Fotheringay’s ‘Banks of the Nile’, perhaps the towering achievement of the era), its forays into the wider cultural context are extraordinarily invigorating, with the inclusion of A Canterbury Tale, Bagpuss and the films of Humphrey Jennings – allied to the genre’s root in socialism and a pastoral, nostalgic vision of Albion – suggests that everything I like is in some way related to British folk music.

The greatest joy of this book is the wealth of wonderful music it has inspired me to investigate. Best of the lot is the Incredible String Band, whose outrageously original psychedelic folk is illuminating each walk to and from work. Here's your four-step guide to becoming a fan:

a) Put on 5,000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
b) Do not turn it off
c) Do it again
d) You are now a fan
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308 reviews300 followers
July 11, 2012
a reasonably good book about the history of folk and folk-rock music in the united kingdom. unfortunately, i found parts of the book to be downright tedious, and at over 600 pages, it was just too long. so i basically skipped through the last 100 pages or so. having said that, the book would definitely be of some interest to fans of that kind of music. and there are some great bands...fairport convention, pentangle and steeleye span, to name just a few. and there is a very useful discography at the end of the book, which lists the key albums from the uk folk genre.
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October 29, 2021

During the years 2009 - 2011, I was heavily invested in modern folk music: bands or solo artists such as Devendra Banhart , Woods , Six Organs of Admittance , Current 93, Joanna Newsom, Espers etc fascinated me. This led to an exploration of past folk artists so Nick Drake, John Martyn and Vashti Bunyan came into my radar . In order to gain more knowledge into folk, I bought Electric Eden in 2011 and for the past 10 years it's been sitting on my shelf.

Until now.

Electric Eden documents the story of contemporary British folk music, from it's roots in in the late 1800's, when researchers were trying to collect folk songs, to the artists who started to play these renditions and kept going strong, to the bands of the 60's and 70's such as Fairport Convention , Pentangle , the Incredible String band and the architect of that sound, Joe Boyd. Then the book delves into folk's crossover into psychedelia and then ending with the torchbearers such as Kate Bush , Julian Cope and Talk Talk.

What comes out in this detailed study is that contemporary folk is an attempt to recreate an ideal and idyll pastoral past; one of innocence and peace. In fact author Rob Young (who also wrote two fantastic books on the Warp and Rough Trade labels) documents folk artists trying their hardest to recreate the more nature based aspects of British society. Such as Pink Floyd's Piper at the Gates of Dawn being a homage to The Wind in the Willows, the insistence of gardens (hence the Eden of the title) or Vashti Bunyan's pilgrimage, Donavan's attempt to create a commune on an island and then recasting himself as a pied piper. This is all a return to innocence. Rob Young also includes pagan rites and rituals and how bands incorporated them into their image, with other references to films such as The Wicker Man and how that movie influenced a generation of magic seeking artists.

It's all fascinating and Rob Young writes in a down to earth style. True it does help to have some background knowledge but a scant one will be passable as Electric Eden will definitely deepen one's appreciation and learn new things about this genre. I also suggest seeking out Rough Trade's Psyche Folk compilation 9to see how folk has developed) and Island Records folk boxset (you get the roots: Traffic , which complement this book nicely.
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70 reviews24 followers
October 11, 2015
This book sent me down so many record collecting rabbit holes.

I spent many a night up past my bedtime because I couldn't put this down.
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July 2, 2011

Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain’s Visionary Music is an ambitious survey of British folk music that is also, sad to say, indulgent. Putatively a tuned-in “reading” of Britain’s Blakean strata of culture, the music writer (for The Wire) Rob Young’s book promises, in his collector’s enthusiasm for a distinct period of musical recording, to rescue a forgotten lore of liberating reflection on his country’s past, but what he offers, ultimately, ought to weaken our resolve to continue looking for it.


What, after all, have Britain’s fondness for its pagan (or pre-Roman) landscape, psychedelia, the occult, and folk music to do with one another? Maybe less than we think. That “unearthing” in the book’s subtitle is a bit of a ruse. The idea that post-war British folk music is chthonic, and autochthonous, or up from the native soil, is incredible, given the transformations in sound technology that permitted, in the Sixties, developments in the cassette-recording, the eight-track and long-form playing disc, and a corresponding permissiveness in the number of acts signed to record labels, the culture of listening, as well as in the business of publishing rights, distribution and performance. American readers of Young’s book will perhaps have heard of the Beatles, and the “new waves” of recorded British performance that transformed American popular music more than once.


The focus of fourteen chapters of Young’s book, the period between the first and second British New Waves was a boom period for boys and girls with guitars. Nonetheless, Young’s own thesis, blurrily argued throughout here, is that there’s a continuous tradition of music-making that stretches from the Sixteenth Century Border minstrels to Talk Talk. The poet-printmaker William Blake, Wordsworth, Yeats, Aleister Crowley, the modernist composers of British orchestral music, like Ralph Vaughn Williams, the folk-jazz fusionist John Martyn – they’re all in on it. British music, as Young hardly needs to tell us, is in on what he will then call “the loamy atavistic grit” that is “the Matter of Britain.” No one will blame him for his engagement in that inquiry. But no one should assume that British folk music is as “up from the soil” as all that, and Young doesn’t make his case. The “unearthing” here is of several stratum of cultural reproduction and its historiography, but Young’s book bollixes the relations.


By rights, the book ought to tell us something about British folk music, and at times it does do just this. After initially modeling what’s at stake in the recovery of the Sixties generation in the person of Vashti Bunyan, a folksinger who worked with the crucial producer-arranger Joe Boyd during the late Sixties, Young’s six hundred page history opens on a one-hundred page survey of the British modernist composers in their treatment of “the folk” – a frequently rehearsed theme, after all, in modernist and cultural studies. Next Young tracks the musicians and ethnographers in the post-war period who collected songs and revived performance in rural villages. While the relations of those two periods of activity are worth Young’s sorting through, he fails to represent the forces behind the ethnographical activity, or the performances themselves. Focusing on Bert Jansch, Shirley Collins, The Watersons, John and Beverly Martyn, Fairport Convention, Nick Drake, The Incredible String Band, Pentangle, Steeleye Span, Mr. Fox, Richard and Linda Thompson, and countless others, I read the book listening to the Bunyan, Martyn, Shirley Collins and the Watersons, Bert Jansch, and Bob and Carole Pegg for the first time – duly informed and pleased to so be. However, Young lacks a stylist’s eye for startling juxtapositions, and the readings of these performances blur the ground between what is the precursor’s achievement and what is an important information in “the Matter of Britain.”


My wife and I are Richard Thompson fans, have seen him perform many times over the years, as astounded by his moving voice as by his range and skill as a guitarist, and often quite taken by his songs, as well. But the musician Young has me thinking most about is John Martyn, the hunky singer-songwriter who worked with Thompson on two albums in the early Seventies, at the time of the break-up of Thompson’s first group, Fairport Convention, as well as in the duo Martyn was a part of with his wife of ten years, Beverly Martyn. Martyn and Thompson are an interesting pair, both depressive and soulful, both song writers who initially hung back behind their beautiful wives, but with their ears open to The Band’s music with Bob Dylan, as well as to their own country’s native traditions, and both, finally, guitar masters who needed to work on their own. Martyn is aptly contextualized by the bohemian coffee house scene of Les Cousins, a London folk club that was the center of English folk revival of the mid to late Sixties. He does not emerge in his musical maturity much away from the folk duo he and his wife formed; alcohol and drugs, as well as his own crusty recalcitrance, seem to have kept him from the career Thompson has enjoyed on both sides of the Atlantic (Martyn died in 2009), and which Thompson continues to enjoy without major label support. Martyn, by contrast, emerges through the patronage of Chris Blackwell, the founder of Island Records, who dropped him from the label in 1988.


A career like Martyn’s deserves more than Electric Eden’s contextualization, and despite having interviewed Richard Thompson for this book, Young has almost nothing to say about him (Thompson, tellingly, didn’t give him much). The chapter on Richard and Linda Thompson begins with a squib on Caedmon (England’s poet of legend), a squib on Milton, a squib on Teilhard de Chardin, a squib on the album cover of a band, Comus (after the Milton poem) that performed around the time the Thompsons were getting together. The chapter closes with a squib on Raymond Williams, the Marxist literary critic who wrote a book, The Country and City, all about “the Matter of Britain,” though Williams’ ideas – to say nothing of William Empson, or E. P. Thompson, or any of the cultural theorists of the pastoral, and popular culture, to whom Young might have looked to clarify his argument about why the one musician (Thompson) flourished while the other musician (Martyn) struggled – are not, finally, entertained. Electric Eden is a “popular” book without ever being a readable one.

348 reviews11 followers
June 8, 2014
To begin with some issues with the title. The author refers to Britain, but the book is almost exclusively about England. Secondly what is 'visionary music'? On the whole the book deals with music which is normally described as 'folk', but Rob Yoing does cast the net more broadly than that and discusses things like 'Strawberry Fields Forever' and Led Zepplin IV which aren't normally regarded as part of the folk cannon. Its best to take Jerusalem as your starting point. This is music which is inspired by 'England's green and pleasant land' and which has a mystical sense of what this means.

A conundrum: I read this book over a long period. I started with great enthusiasm, was delighted to find out more about the sometimes dubious activities of the Victorian and Edwardian folk song collectors, and then about the impact of traditional music on the likes of Vaughn Williams and Benjamin Brittain, before getting to the bit I really thought I was going to enjoy, the period from the late 50's through to the early '70's. But in the end I gave up feeling slightly numbed, and overwhelmed by the mass of details. Sure there was good stuff here - on The Incredible String Band, for instance, or on Nick Drake, on whom Young is particularly perceptive, making it clear that Drake is both the high point of the folk revival but also unique and standing apart from any movement. But there was just too much detail - too many bands I'd sort of heard of (Mr Fox anyone?), each of whom managed about 18 different changes in line up, each itemised, whilst recording two or three albums. Big themes were constantly alluded to like the politics of 'folk' (innately anti-elite or incipiently fascist?), the centrality of the erotic (especially a concern with female sexuality), and, especially, what the book likes to refer to as 'the occult meaning of the countryside' (magic to you or I). But they never seemed to be developed enough. Could the book see the wood from the trees?

So it was with slight trepidation that I returned to the book after a gap of two or more years and what did I find? That I thought Young writes excellent and loving vignettes, and that his determination to give full due to many of the foot soldiers is admirable. And moreover that his refusal to sub-ordinate the detail to a 'bigger picture' is a deliberate strategy. What he is writing about is an impulse - to draw on deep sense of place as the primary inspiration for your work - that cannot be repressed, but which produces an incredibly disparate body of work. He does also have a wonderful habit of referring to England as Albion. (Should have used the # England's Dreaming but I don't use #s).

So the 4 stars here are a combination of 3 stars for my first experience of the book and 5 stars for the second.

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42 reviews6 followers
July 22, 2011
American popular music, as Nik Cohn once said, is black beat or rhythm with white sentiment. In part he spoke of the recurrent British influence on American pop, or the multi-layered British invasion, that goes on up to the latest moment. In the late 50’s and early 60’s, however, the tide ran the other way and many of the blacklisted folk artists from the United States came to live and perform in Britain. (Guitars appeared for the first time in Britain in the 1950’s, imported from American manufacturers.) Rob Young has done popular musicology a service by writing his history of 60's and 70’s English folk music. There is lots more than anyone would know about the history of the Incredible String Band and too little about my favorite group in the history, Fairport Convention, but that is not the author's failing. He describes the promiscuous informality and immateriality of the players of the great English folk movement who freely borrowed from early Anglo and American folk tunes, had their go, and then provided inspiration to groups like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd-who made all the money. Fairport Convention, led by Sandy Denny and Richard Thompson, recorded the iconic “Liege and Leaf” and then flaked out. Sandy Denny possessed one of the great voices of any time and then died shortly thereafter as a rock causality. Richard Thompson became a Muslim with his wife Linda, retreating to a commune, and now survives as the most unsung British guitar hero…many years later.

I learned a great deal from Mr. Young’s book. I had never heard of many of the personalities who took Cecil Sharp’s collection of English folk songs to popular knowledge and sonic success and thereby revolutionized rock. The book, however, does read like a dissertation, and it could have been cut in half. Otherwise, indispensible for the fanatic.
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310 reviews16 followers
March 1, 2016
Daunted by the sheer numbers of excellent reviews on this book here, I'm going to keep this relatively brief. This is a really hard book for me to put my finger on. I love it's wealth of information on early twentieth century musical trends in Britain and the necessity of the music to look back in order to escape the platitudes of music hall and Gilbert and Sullivan and move forward. Young's take on the recurrence of "travelling" themes and a running pulse of paganism stirring Albion's musical pot is often compelling.
And then often it's not. After a while the cookie cutter approach to seemingly everything that uses an acoustic instrument (Talk Talk? Julian Cope?) being an unbreakable stream straight from King Arthur's loins starts to get unwieldy. Occasionally even a little ridiculous.
That said, though, the wealth of information about Pentangle, Shirley Collins, Nick Drake, Fotherinport Confusion... It's a wealth of smart loving commentary for people who love that particular brand of electric folk.
I also dig his branching commentaries about paganism in films and the use of electric folk in things like The Wicker Man, Penda's Fen, Quatermass and the Pit and The Witchfinder General. It might be excessive here, but it's an excessive I like.
That said, I'd call his extensive coverage of festivals and post-70s folk fusion forced and misguided. And the desperate wraparound to bring those sections, towards the end of the book, back into thematic lock step through the use of fantastical liner notes and hobbit stories, is truly weird.
Take the four stars with a grain of salt if you are not fairly fascinated with 60s/70s electric folk music from England. But if you are, it's a pretty enjoyable read.
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897 reviews82 followers
February 20, 2014
Rob Young bites off a daring to daunting sized mouthful of UK cultural history, from William Morris to Current 93, (with even a dip back to the English Civil War of the 17th century - a straight line from the Diggers to Maggie Holland).
While the bulk of the book is about the folk revival of the 1950s-60s and the folk-rock boom of the 1960s-70s, Young is interested in and capable of drawing together literature, visual arts, pre-Christian spiritual movements, forgotten Hammer horror films and more, to elucidate some general tendencies in the cultural history of the British Isles with a whole lot of quite specific, fascinating and well-written detail.
Even if you have the general outline of Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger, Bert Jansch, Shirley Collins, The Pentangle, Fairport, Steeleye Span, Vashti Bunyan et al (not to mention Vaughan Williams, Delius and Elgar before them), you'll probably find a lot you didn't know and a lot to consider. (You probably have to be at least passingly familiar with the core of musicians that start this paragraph to start in).
33 reviews1 follower
January 17, 2013
A comprehensive tome about the British Folk Revival that introduced me to a lot of great traditional and neo-traditional, hybrid electric-folk music that I’d never heard before. In addition to people like Mick Softley and Peter Bellamy (Young Tradition) and rediscoveries like John Renbourne, Shirley Collins and Anne Briggs, as well as old favorites like Bert Jansch (RIP, 2012), Pentangle, Fairport Convention and Sandy Denny, there were groups that I’d rarely heard, like The Watersons, a truly amazing family band reaching back into the farthest traditions of family bands, playing music from centuries ago and putting their own contemporary spin on it. I also rediscovered my love for the Incredible String Band and delved into British classical music including Delius, Vaughan Williams, Gustav Holst, Benjamin Britten, John Ireland, E.J. Moeran, and Peter Warlock. A treasure trove that I will keep coming back to.
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1,296 reviews23 followers
November 22, 2025
Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain’s Visionary Music

Excerpts focusing on themes of the occult, magic, the supernatural, and visionary/mystical elements in British folk and popular music culture.

Where the Bee Sucks

"The spirit of this movement was profoundly romantic: a revolt against the perceived mechanization and spiritual poverty of modern life, seeking instead a rootedness in local and national mythologies... and often touched by the occult revivals of the era."

"Folklorists were part-archaeologists, part-magicians, sifting through the material remnants of forgotten customs while simultaneously dreaming of the intangible, the magical undercurrents they suspected lay hidden within."

"The rural idyll it often conjured was less a realistic depiction of agricultural life than a psychological space, a ‘dreaming land’ susceptible to the influence of ancient deities and nature spirits—a landscape ripe for supernatural fiction."

"They were driven by the need to salvage the nation’s musical patrimony before it vanished beneath the tide of industrial modernity, a quest often imbued with the spiritual urgency of a grail hunt."

"A key aspect of this quest was the exploration of a 'deep England'—a terrain of ancient, non-Christian belief systems, from Druidism to witchcraft, which many believed were encoded in the very fabric of the music and ritual."

The Sound of the Sun

"The counterculture, in its pursuit of expanded consciousness, naturally gravitated to the mystical, the pre-Christian, and the pagan. For some musicians, this wasn't just aesthetic; it was a search for a viable magical tradition."

"They found spiritual ancestors in William Blake and the Romantic poets, whose work blurred the lines between the physical world and a visionary, supernatural realm, suggesting that the spirit world was accessible through art."

"Aleister Crowley’s legacy, too, filtered through—not always directly as a practice, but as a potent symbol of occult rebellion and the deliberate overturning of established religious norms in favour of personal gnosis."

"Music, especially when performed in specific, charged locations—stone circles, ancient hillsides—was conceived of as a kind of sonic spell, capable of opening up hidden conduits of power within the landscape."

"Their albums became grimoires of sorts, filled with cryptic lyrics and esoteric imagery, hinting at rituals and secret histories that were only partially revealed to the casual listener, suggesting a supernatural or hidden subtext."

The Great Beast and the Silver Wheel

"In the 1960s, the revival of the folk tradition coincided with a surge of interest in witchcraft, earth mysteries, and ceremonial magic. It was a convergence that made folk music the soundtrack to a quiet, often drug-fueled, spiritual revolution."

"The concept of the 'folk horror' film genre—where rural landscapes conceal terrifying, ancient, and often pagan evil—was mirrored in the sometimes unsettling, elemental themes found in the lyrics of the era’s most visionary bands."

"It was not merely nostalgia but a search for ancestral authority, a belief that older ways contained a forgotten power, a native British magic that could be resurrected through music."

"The lyrics often dealt explicitly with figures from folklore who straddled the natural and supernatural divide—the Green Man, fairies, witches, and mythical beasts—investing the English countryside with a sense of potent, living mystery."

"For musicians like Shirley Collins, collecting and performing older songs became a form of mediumship, bringing forth the voices and energies of the past, acting as a vessel for history's ghostly presence."

The Wild Wood

"As the genre evolved, it sought to capture the psychological and geographical resonance of the landscape, often interpreting woodlands and heaths as sites of initiation or supernatural encounter, much like in traditional Gothic fiction."

"The wild wood, in particular, symbolized the untamed, unconscious mind, where encounters with the sublime, the magical, or the frankly terrifying were always possible, far from the regulated world of modern rationality."

"They moved away from simple pastoralism towards a 'dark pastoral,' where the beauty of nature was inextricably linked to its deep, ancient cruelties and its capacity to act as a stage for magical events."

"References to séances, ley lines, and psychic phenomena began to appear with frequency, positioning the musicians not just as artists, but as psychics or seers attempting to map hidden energies."

"The influence of writers like Arthur Machen, whose tales detail the survival of ancient, sinister, pre-human forces in the Welsh borders, confirmed for many artists that the supernatural was a local, accessible reality."

The White Horse

"The ancient white horses carved into the chalk hillsides became powerful totems, connecting the musicians’ concerns directly to prehistory, acting as occult markers in a sacred, magical topography."

"These monumental earthworks were interpreted as gigantic sigils or magical diagrams, capable of influencing the spiritual climate of the surrounding area, a focus for intentional ritual and psychic work."

"The music itself began to adopt a processional, ritualistic feel, attempting to mirror the slow, seasonal rhythms of pagan ceremony, embodying the supernatural cycle of life, death, and rebirth."

"By drawing on the imagery of Albion—William Blake’s visionary name for Britain—they were invoking a deep, spiritual mythology, suggesting a Britain not merely geographical but fundamentally metaphysical."

"The pastoral mood often contained a disturbing undercurrent, a sense of something 'unheimlich'—the uncanny—suggesting that the familiar British landscape was merely a thin veneer over a powerful, occult, and older reality."
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87 reviews
October 31, 2020
For the folk and/or folk rock afficinado Rob Young's Electric Eden is totally immersive, and the narrative/'silver' thread of the search and longing for a "time locked pastoral heaven" travels not only the well trodden folk rock path from Pentangle through to Steeleye Span (focusing on the core years '68 - '72) but also takes in a number of detours into the more obscure territory of acid and psychedelic folk. It takes its time getting going, mind. Reading the opening chapters on the Victorian & Edwardian classical composers was a bit like sitting through a mediocre warm up act waiting for the headliners you've come for. I also felt it kept going a bit too long - to me seeing through the 70s as they unfolded for John Martyn, Richard Thompson and Steeleye felt like a natural conclusion to the narrative; the lengthy chapters on the birth of the music festivals seemed a bit superfluous and not especially related to the artists the book had been covering, and like other reviewers I felt extending the silver chain into the 80s and 90s via Kate Bush, David Sylvian, Talk Talk and Julian Cope was a bit of a stretch. Saying that, it was all fascinating and exceptionally well written. And a great bonus is I've added about 20 books that Young makes reference to to my reading list. There's one that the author doesn't mention, that I would add for anyone interested - Electric Eden frequently visits the 1973 film The Wicker Man, but doesn't mention David Pinner's novel Ritual, which has the seeds of the Wicker Man story. It's a great book if you can find a copy.
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776 reviews130 followers
December 6, 2017
OK, first point is I love 1960s/1970s British folk revival and folk rock (Watersons, Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Richard Thompson, etc., etc.), so I was excited to read a book that was apparently going to document that era. I'm not entirely sure this was that book, but I still found it interesting, and learned a fair bit.

It starts with the tale of Vashti Bunyan (a name I'd heard, but about whom I knew pretty much nothing) making her way across England to (if I'm remembering correctly) meet Donovan, who was trying to set up a little community on some island he owned. Then it actually jumps back to the turn of the century to show Cecil Sharp, Ralph Vaughan Williams and others who were going out and collecting folk songs, or composing music using folk motifs, and in a real way laying the groundwork for what was to come later.

We then progress through the war years, the 1950s and the 1960s, when everything really began to blossom.

The structure of the book isn't entirely chronological, especially when we get into the main years -- each chapter kind of focuses on a specific performer or group; because there was so much overlap between the various major players, we'll often go back to a time or place we've already visited, but follow a different person on a slightly different path. In many cases, though, the focus isn't so much on the group or the performer specifically, as on his (or her) (or their) impact on the audience at large. (And many, many albums or concerts are described as "lysergic" or "weed-mellowed" or the like -- surprise! plenty of chemical enhancement in the folk scene of the day.)

A lot of the information was actually new to me; I do have some familiarity, just from reading CD liner notes and old issues of Dirty Linen &c., but I was certainly no expert. (Speaking of which: Some reviews I've seen have pointed out at least a few errors of fact in the book, so caveat lector.)

As I said,I don't know if this was quite the book I wanted -- I would've probably preferred something with a bit more of a chronological narrative -- but this is probably the best thing you're going to find on the subject.

And as to why I was interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQEkX...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSnYJ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs9PM...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3dJH...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdzQJ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX3An...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8_eF...
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545 reviews13 followers
January 6, 2012
This was my favorite book of 2011. Being an old 60s hippie-earth mother-musician type who knew every song on the FM radio from 1965 until around 1978, I found this book absolutely fascinating. I lived through the 60s and 70s and listened to all the British folk and folk-rock albums, but I had no idea of most of the connections revealed in this book. For instance, a young British woman named Vashti Bunyan (her real name, in fact) dropped out of University in the early 60s, acquired a gypsy's wagon and horse, and set out with her artist boyfriend on a journey across Britain and Scotland. During this odyssey, she wrote charming pastoral folk songs on her guitar, singing in her wispy voice about fields, fisherman, dogs, horses, flowers, and just generally her feelings about life. Apparently, according to the author, she set off the folk revival and then faded away into the rural country side in Ireland and Scotland, living on Donovan Leitch's island, befriending the members of the Incredible String Band, growing a garden, and studying Gaelic. She recorded an album, but her producers did not promote her album sufficiently, so she lost interest and went off in another direction, only to resurface 30 years later, completely unaware that she had become a folk icon to musical historians. This is just one of many, many interesting stories.

This book will send you repeatedly to download songs, or order albums online, or if you are particularly old school, to run to your music store and actually buy a CD! I highly recommend this book if you love British music.
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26 reviews
March 30, 2024
If you're at all interested in British music of the 60s/70s, Electric Eden is probably an inevitable read. I know I certainly had it on my reading list for a while. However, while a worthy tale, I'm not convinced Young was the best person to tell it.

For a start, his writing is uninspiring at best and downright turgid at worst, not to mention the frequent factual errors and misapprehensions when venturing outside of music. He also somehow finds the most uninteresting things to discuss, which the inherently fascinating subject material can only rescue to an extent. His thesis on 'visionary music' is laid out clearly enough at the start but hardly developed throughout. The end is just a series of tedious lists, descriptions, and boring encounters that you'll have become all too familiar with by that point.

It's not totally without merit. Young certainly makes you question what the term 'folk music' really means. The most consistent definition reached is 'music of the people' - meaning literally whatever music emerges from and resonates with the crowd, which precludes acoustic guitars and bearded singers in sweatshirts as essential components. This has so many interesting implications for modern culture, but Young doesn't really explore any of them. He just floats the idea briefly, and then it's back to the mind numbing track by track album overviews.

The individual chapters of Electric Eden are entertaining, but it's a 600-page journey that leads you nowhere. Paring it down to 400 tightly written and narratively focused pages would have helped it immeasurably.
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53 reviews5 followers
January 28, 2016
Finally. That took forever. An excellent subject, and Mr. Young obviously knows even more than he shares about the history and scope of English folk music. The first couple hundred pages focus on Cecil Sharp and his first-hand research on the origins of English folk music as he travels the Midlands and northern reaches of the British Empire. This part was a hard slog for me. I really paid more attention once he got past Ewan Macoll and Peggy Seeger, and got into the bands and music of the mid 1960s and beyond, like Pentangle and Incredible String Band and Fairport Convention. The author can wax poetic on a number of offshoots and does not strictly stay on the Folk Music tract, as he touches on Led Zeppelin IV and some of the more popular strands and performers, such as Nick Drake. The last 100 pages he kind of just forgets he's writing a folk music book and starts delving into David Sylvain/Japan, Talk Talk, Kate Bush and Julian Cope. Interesting, but their link to Folk Music is tangential. I wish he had spent more time touching on the apocalyptic folk of David Tibet and Current 93 (of which Baby Dee is/was a customer of the bookstore I work at, talking about tangents!). Rob Young's blog has a number of interesting bands and links to more esoteric folk-friendly subjects. He gets a downgrade for not keeping a tighter focus, but the number of fascinating topics he touches on had me greatly enjoying this expansive (600+ pages) work.
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935 reviews11 followers
September 9, 2012
There is a breadth in this which is admirable, where the concepts underpinning British folk music are explored through time. The author has selected the key movers and shakers and people can disagree with some of his choices. You can't doubt the author's fascination and love of the music and that enthusiasm is what keeps the reader on board for quite a lengthy ride. I think the longer perspective takes this well above the usual hagiographic music tomes.
294 reviews11 followers
April 3, 2020
Not a big folk fan but this book was a great read – one of my favorite music books, up there with Rip It Up and Start Again and England’s Dreaming. Not only charted the evolution of folk, but also illustrated folk’s influence and kinship on some strains of modern music. The author definitely dipped into flights of fancy (I think Puck literally makes an appearance towards the end of the book!) but I accepted it as going along with the spirit of the project. And at the very least, there’s an excellent “Discographic Timeline” that gives the reader dozens of albums to explore – something sorely missing from Seasons They Change, another folk-focused read that followed it to American shores, where Young stays firmly in the UK.

I did appreciate Young’s explanations of folk traditions, how songs change as they are passed down through generations and singers, that the “original” is really only a draft of the song, which lives and breathes as it changes through time. I also liked Young’s succinct definition of the difference between “folk” and “pop.”

The Eden that the British folk artists were trying to capture – whether by utilizing archaic instruments or by writing songs harnessing the spirit of the older world – and the new communal living places and concerts (the history of the Glastonbury fest is told) was a good place to inhabit as the Coronavirus took over the outside world.
157 reviews1 follower
September 13, 2021
Very accomplished and broad ranging survey of British folk and folk related music through recent history. A lot of anecdotal information from interviews, and much research. Centrally about the 20th century folk revival and the broadly folk rock phenomenon, it also has much on the folk aspects of orchestral composers, and more recent music tangentially linked to the folk tradition.
For the most part absorbing and readable. A few paragraphs were rather dense and unclear due to a possible overload of detailed information, but overall highly recommended to almost anyone wanting to discover more about British music, or perhaps revive forgotten interests.
The author clearly has a broad musical knowledge and perspective beyond "folk music", encompassing jazz, rock, and classical. Also interesting ideas of the position of the music within wider society and social change, sometimes quite speculative, but well argued and illustrated.
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Author 2 books4 followers
December 2, 2025
Fantastic book! Went further back into the traditions of British folk music's various retrievals and revivals than I'd anticipated and was nicely coda'd by illuminating treatments of Kate Bush, David Sylvian, Talk Talk, and Julian Cope. Also nice to read about Boards of Canada in this context. Young is a great writer, well-researched into both the musicians and their larger historical, cultural, and mythological heritages. He digs into things with the right amount of sustained engagement, and avoids turning the whole book into a series of lists -- though with that said, one of my favorite parts was the list of provincial band names, with "Pyewackett" and "Figgy Duff" some of the keenest among them. Certainly, I've added some new composers, musicians, and bands to my playlists, with the Watersons quite enjoyable. Sadly, neither Pyewackett nor Figgy Duff, nor even Bodger's Mate for that matter, have made the list.

All in all, a perfect autumnal read. Highly recommended.
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1,336 reviews58 followers
December 1, 2018
A truly excellent history of the unearthing of English folk music and its transformation into popular music in the 1960s. Beginning with William Morris, the book traces the impulses that caused scholars, hobbyists, and obsessives to beat the backwoods of the island and save fragments of a fast fading past, and then tells the story of how those fragments became studio recordings and eventually modern music. Apart from biographies of principles both in the pre-electric era and the switched-on frenzy of amplification, Young sets the music beautifully in the context of its time with side trips into occult archaeology, the influence of Arthur Machen and The Wicker Man, and the early history of British music festivals. Potentially an expensive book; I think I've bought a record a day since I started reading it. Recommended without reservation for any music fan, even if you're not a folkie.
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1,237 reviews
February 25, 2024
Great slow read--I pieced my way through all the music discussed as I read. I had started this 5+ years ago, but got really dragged down by the Vaughan Williams et al. stuff, just because I don't hold much interest in that music. So glad I picked it up again--it sent me down some great rabbit holes of celebrating old faves and learning about artists I'd never heard of or never took the time to explore more thoroughly. It was interesting to consider a more expansive interpretation of the British folk ethic and what constitutes folk/folk-rock music. This has an excellent discography at the end, worth the price of admission.
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273 reviews5 followers
October 28, 2023
I have had this book on my shelves since it was published years ago. Finally I get round to reading it and it is as if it were written just for me. It touches on the deep heart of English music from Vaughan Williams to Kate Bush and all the folk rock in between. It has sent me down so many reading and listening rabbit holes it will take me years to catch up. I accept that it is a niche topic and not for everyone but it is definitely one of my best non fiction reads for years.
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366 reviews3 followers
September 19, 2024
This is another great book from Rob Young. Not as good as The Magic Box but I think I perhaps don’t love Folk Music enough to get as much out of this book. It really does have everything that you could need to know about UK folk music.

It is an incredibly dense book to read, paragraph after paragraph of facts about the development of UK folk music.

If you love folk you’ll love this book, if you like folk music it’s perhaps a harder read.
19 reviews1 follower
November 5, 2025
Written by an ex pupil from my brief inglorious teaching career! It’s a great story of English psychedelia’s roots in folk; or of folk music’s endless evolution into psychedelia. And then from 60s to present. Beautifully written, albeit sometimes losing the reader in its devotional level of detail. Wonderful compendium of minor artists: I went and bought Bill Fay’s last album after Rob’s eloquent description of his work
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