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Avengers: The Children's Crusade #1-9
MARVEL DELUXE. JÓVENES VENGADORES 3
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First published March 28, 2012
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December 21, 2023
This volume follows the Young Avengers lives; it ties their personal dramas to the search for the Scarlet Witch and includes appearances by the Avengers, X-Men, Magneto, Quicksilver, X-Factor and Dr Doom, and it's an interesting Marvel read. I read the comic books Children's Crusade #1-9 and Special. A 6 out of 12, Three Stars okay read, that promises a lot more than it delivers.
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April 15, 2021
The boys finally meet their mother!
Their original mother anyway. Both Speed and Wiccan were born (this time around) into other families. However, they were both originally born/created by Wanda's powers when she was married to Vision, and then disappeared into the ether due to Mephisto and Master Pandamonium.
It's a weird story in the way only a comic book story can be.
Ok. After the House of M debacle, Wanda just disappeared. Now Wiccan has a line on where she might be and he wants to go find her and figure out what exactly happened.
Alright. Another thing you should know is that everyone from the Avengers to the X-Men is absolutely furious with Wanda. Like, irrationally so. Well, not irrationally for a real-world scenario, but irrationally angry for a comic book setting. Yes. She killed a few people, wiped out their reality and replaced it with her own, and also kinda-sorta decimated the mutant population for several years.
BUT.
In her defense, she had literally lost her mind. Her powers were too much for her (or anyone else) to control and she eventually gave in to madness.
AND.
If you think about it, something along those lines has happened to almost every character in the Marvel universe that has a power set like hers, and they've all been forgiven for their fuck ups.
Not so in her case, as almost everyone feels like she needs to be put down. So the chase is on!
So while this is a Young Avengers story, it's also a Scarlet Witch redemption story.
And hey! Doctor Doom shows up! Gotta love any comic he shows up in, right?
Pretty coherent stuff for a comic that has so many different teams and characters colliding in one event. <--mini-event, maybe?
At any rate, this was the story I'd been trying to find since I first read the birth story in Vision and the Scarlet Witch #12. A big Thank You to everyone who helped me find all the titles I needed to get here.
Recommended.
Their original mother anyway. Both Speed and Wiccan were born (this time around) into other families. However, they were both originally born/created by Wanda's powers when she was married to Vision, and then disappeared into the ether due to Mephisto and Master Pandamonium.
It's a weird story in the way only a comic book story can be.
Ok. After the House of M debacle, Wanda just disappeared. Now Wiccan has a line on where she might be and he wants to go find her and figure out what exactly happened.
Alright. Another thing you should know is that everyone from the Avengers to the X-Men is absolutely furious with Wanda. Like, irrationally so. Well, not irrationally for a real-world scenario, but irrationally angry for a comic book setting. Yes. She killed a few people, wiped out their reality and replaced it with her own, and also kinda-sorta decimated the mutant population for several years.
BUT.
In her defense, she had literally lost her mind. Her powers were too much for her (or anyone else) to control and she eventually gave in to madness.
AND.
If you think about it, something along those lines has happened to almost every character in the Marvel universe that has a power set like hers, and they've all been forgiven for their fuck ups.
Not so in her case, as almost everyone feels like she needs to be put down. So the chase is on!
So while this is a Young Avengers story, it's also a Scarlet Witch redemption story.
And hey! Doctor Doom shows up! Gotta love any comic he shows up in, right?
Pretty coherent stuff for a comic that has so many different teams and characters colliding in one event. <--mini-event, maybe?
At any rate, this was the story I'd been trying to find since I first read the birth story in Vision and the Scarlet Witch #12. A big Thank You to everyone who helped me find all the titles I needed to get here.
Recommended.
February 10, 2015
In a cartoon, when someone rolls a perfectly round snowball downhill, the snowball ends up huge with rocks, trees and skiers all collected within and sticking out at odd angles. This storyline is a lot like a little snowball. What starts as a fairly simple story – two members of the Young Avengers, Wiccan and Speed* believe that they are the sons of the Scarlet Witch and with Magneto’s help hope to find her.
This is where you start pulling twigs, rocks, broken limbs and torsos out of the big snowball – The Scarlet Witch, was responsible for the House of M** and killing a few Avengers***, so the X-Men and the Avengers, both want to find her, but not for a happy, feel good reunion. If Wolverine wants to gut her, it’s serious.
A dreaded time travel plot thread is thrown in here too. I find time travel storylines give me constipation, light-headedness, bouts of nausea and hives, so I’m not a big fan. Hey look, its Iron Lad, from the future, who grows up to be Kang the Conqueror, or does he? He’s here to escort the kids around different points in the time stream and further muddy the storyline and get the reader's head a-shaking.
Bonus confusion points for Dr. Doom, who’s on a power-trip. Again. Doom is a whore for different cosmic power sources. I assume Galactus had a lunch date, otherwise he’d be in here as well.
You do get some clarification on the House of M storyline and the penultimate Scott Lang/Dr. Doom battle in FF, but it’s still a time travel-y slogathon.
*Because he’s fast. Really, really fast. Get it? Somebody wake up Stan Lee from his nap and tell him we need a better name.
**She altered reality and most mutants lost their powers.
***They’re dead.
This is where you start pulling twigs, rocks, broken limbs and torsos out of the big snowball – The Scarlet Witch, was responsible for the House of M** and killing a few Avengers***, so the X-Men and the Avengers, both want to find her, but not for a happy, feel good reunion. If Wolverine wants to gut her, it’s serious.
A dreaded time travel plot thread is thrown in here too. I find time travel storylines give me constipation, light-headedness, bouts of nausea and hives, so I’m not a big fan. Hey look, its Iron Lad, from the future, who grows up to be Kang the Conqueror, or does he? He’s here to escort the kids around different points in the time stream and further muddy the storyline and get the reader's head a-shaking.
Bonus confusion points for Dr. Doom, who’s on a power-trip. Again. Doom is a whore for different cosmic power sources. I assume Galactus had a lunch date, otherwise he’d be in here as well.
You do get some clarification on the House of M storyline and the penultimate Scott Lang/Dr. Doom battle in FF, but it’s still a time travel-y slogathon.
*Because he’s fast. Really, really fast. Get it? Somebody wake up Stan Lee from his nap and tell him we need a better name.
**She altered reality and most mutants lost their powers.
***They’re dead.
July 14, 2023
Allen Heinberg and Jim Cheung end their Young Avengers saga by bringing to a full circle their concept of teen heroes inspired by the Avengers legend that began in the aftermath of Brian Bendis' Avengers Disassembled.
In this ten-part miniseries, Heinberg attempted to redeem Wanda Maximoff, the reality altering chaos mage Scarlet Witch; whose nervous breakdown precipitated Disassembled. It was an appropriate story to tell and developed organically. After all, two of the Young Avengers, the mage Wiccan and speedster Speed were said to the long-lost children of the Scarlet Witch.
In this ten-part miniseries, Heinberg attempted to redeem Wanda Maximoff, the reality altering chaos mage Scarlet Witch; whose nervous breakdown precipitated Disassembled. It was an appropriate story to tell and developed organically. After all, two of the Young Avengers, the mage Wiccan and speedster Speed were said to the long-lost children of the Scarlet Witch.
September 23, 2021
TALK ABOUT EPIC!
This deals witht he return of Scarlet witch after Billy wants to find his mother and that brings him into conflict with Magneto and Quicksilver and then they go to Latveria and engage in a conflict with Doom, we learn of the fate of Wanda and the coming of Avengers and X-Men and also them fighting each other, enter Iron Lad aka Kang Jr. and finally them all battling each other and coming to blows and we find out about the life force and Doom getting powered up and its a massive story with them battling him, secrets, revelations, fate of characters, breaking up of some heroes and the prelude almost to AvX but its a story about a son trying to save his mother.
Its a great story and it is epic in all the sense of the world with like so many well known characters and giving them all their moments and also deals with the repercussions of House of M and maybe redeems WANDA Here. Plus I like how the story is centered on Wiccan and reunites him with his family. But the main reason is the art of Jim C and like its so good, each page almost a poster. So well worth it. Compliments wont be enough for the book so do read it as its one of the best Avengers stories period.
This deals witht he return of Scarlet witch after Billy wants to find his mother and that brings him into conflict with Magneto and Quicksilver and then they go to Latveria and engage in a conflict with Doom, we learn of the fate of Wanda and the coming of Avengers and X-Men and also them fighting each other, enter Iron Lad aka Kang Jr. and finally them all battling each other and coming to blows and we find out about the life force and Doom getting powered up and its a massive story with them battling him, secrets, revelations, fate of characters, breaking up of some heroes and the prelude almost to AvX but its a story about a son trying to save his mother.
Its a great story and it is epic in all the sense of the world with like so many well known characters and giving them all their moments and also deals with the repercussions of House of M and maybe redeems WANDA Here. Plus I like how the story is centered on Wiccan and reunites him with his family. But the main reason is the art of Jim C and like its so good, each page almost a poster. So well worth it. Compliments wont be enough for the book so do read it as its one of the best Avengers stories period.
January 31, 2016
Two of the Young Avengers Wiccan and Speed look like twins, have the same name as Wanda Maximoff's children, and have the same powers as the Scarlet Witch and her brother Quicksilver. Wishing to know the truth the Young Avengers set out to find the Scarlet Witch Wanda Maximoff.
The Children's Crusade continues the storyline started in Avengers Disassembled and continued in House of M. Wanda's powers got out of control and she altered reality harming millions and depowering the majority of the mutant population. I was vaguely aware that this was a large scale continuation of that story line so I was interested to see how things went and I have to say things were a bit crazy. I really appreciated the mocking comments made about Civil War. It was hard not to mention heroes fighting each other because it seemed to be happening practically ever issue in the volume.
A lot of information was revealed about Wanda and the what led up to Avengers Disassembled. It was helpful because it seemed crazy to me that Wanda's abiltiies went so over the top.
There were a few parts that were too convenient. Clearly there was some sort of plan in place to continue stretching out the events of M-Day. It was rather annoying the way things were explained and interfered with at times. It felt like someone decided Wanda had to be a hero again so some twisting of the facts was needed.
All in all the Children's Crusade was one enjoyable story.
The Children's Crusade continues the storyline started in Avengers Disassembled and continued in House of M. Wanda's powers got out of control and she altered reality harming millions and depowering the majority of the mutant population. I was vaguely aware that this was a large scale continuation of that story line so I was interested to see how things went and I have to say things were a bit crazy. I really appreciated the mocking comments made about Civil War. It was hard not to mention heroes fighting each other because it seemed to be happening practically ever issue in the volume.
A lot of information was revealed about Wanda and the what led up to Avengers Disassembled. It was helpful because it seemed crazy to me that Wanda's abiltiies went so over the top.
There were a few parts that were too convenient. Clearly there was some sort of plan in place to continue stretching out the events of M-Day. It was rather annoying the way things were explained and interfered with at times. It felt like someone decided Wanda had to be a hero again so some twisting of the facts was needed.
All in all the Children's Crusade was one enjoyable story.
December 24, 2021
Second read review:
Heinberg does a lot of reunions and “posing monologues” with soap opera words - “promise you’ll let me go without a fight” - “not even (Magneto) could make a promise that empty” that break the illusion of high stakes in this earth-shattering story.
Which makes it feel like a fait accompli - like of course no one is going to actually do lasting harm to one another, when even their tone of voice is so soft and grateful just to be around each other.
And yet…Heinberg manages to make this book matter. Not just because it’s turning a corner on some of the greatest “whoa” moments in comics of the preceding decade, and not just because he does a solid job of summarising all of what passed to reason out why the choices today matter - but because this shows how friendships and antagonisms are forged and re-forged to illuminate the characters.
Much as the “woe is me I’m an idiot baby supe“ doesn’t work as much for me anymore (it’s a predictable trope, well beyond the fun zeal of “holy shit I’m a supe and I have no idea what I’m doing yet” journey), I feel like I actually spent time getting to know the YA and not just as a band.
Original review:
A little stiff as a storyteller, that Heinberg. He's got that annoying old-school habit of trotting each member of a guest-starring team-up out to get their one line wedged in, then they disappear off stage right again. The guest stars do their cameo, then slink off again to regain their dignity after slumming in a book of lesser wonders.
Sad really - I didn't know anything about this mini-series when it first came out, and yet it's filling in a major missing piece of the puzzle of the 21st-century Marvel U. And it has the components of a great story - young people on a quest to find their secret destiny. What's not to like?
Man, I wish I didn't mind the "why show it when you can tell the reader all about it" style of storytelling. It's just that when the characters stand still in the heat of action and start expounding on the things that are clearly visible to everyone - or listing off all the facts that led them to this place - I just feel like the momentum has been totally blown every time.
And the many many panels in which the characters pose while announcing their intentions or history - it's like I'm reading a DC comic, or something from the 80's. These "movie poster" pose panels are just about the most momentum-killing thing in comics today, and we can thank Jim Cheung for keeping the tradition alive.
Once we get to the climax, there's the usual foolishness of "I'll take responsibility!" "No, *I* will!" that doesn't amount to shit except making me sick of these third-grade dramatics.
Oh but wait there's more. He's dead! No she's dead! He's healed! Now he's not! I've got pants on! Now I don't! Seriously guys, can we dispense with the cheap theatrics and just tell a story with some heart? Pacing people, pacing - when someone makes a life-altering vow, don't treat it like it didn't happen FIVE PANELS LATER. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to take big things a little more seriously than that.
I feel like this was worth it - just barely - to find out how they brought Scarlet Witch back into the Marvel U. The plot was certainly interesting and gave us something to think about. It sure had echoes that will ring harder after Avengers vs. X-Men. But holy hell was the execution bad - well, a throwback anyway, to the bombastic, leaden and painfully melodramatic comics that I thought we'd left behind.
Heinberg does a lot of reunions and “posing monologues” with soap opera words - “promise you’ll let me go without a fight” - “not even (Magneto) could make a promise that empty” that break the illusion of high stakes in this earth-shattering story.
Which makes it feel like a fait accompli - like of course no one is going to actually do lasting harm to one another, when even their tone of voice is so soft and grateful just to be around each other.
And yet…Heinberg manages to make this book matter. Not just because it’s turning a corner on some of the greatest “whoa” moments in comics of the preceding decade, and not just because he does a solid job of summarising all of what passed to reason out why the choices today matter - but because this shows how friendships and antagonisms are forged and re-forged to illuminate the characters.
Much as the “woe is me I’m an idiot baby supe“ doesn’t work as much for me anymore (it’s a predictable trope, well beyond the fun zeal of “holy shit I’m a supe and I have no idea what I’m doing yet” journey), I feel like I actually spent time getting to know the YA and not just as a band.
Original review:
A little stiff as a storyteller, that Heinberg. He's got that annoying old-school habit of trotting each member of a guest-starring team-up out to get their one line wedged in, then they disappear off stage right again. The guest stars do their cameo, then slink off again to regain their dignity after slumming in a book of lesser wonders.
Sad really - I didn't know anything about this mini-series when it first came out, and yet it's filling in a major missing piece of the puzzle of the 21st-century Marvel U. And it has the components of a great story - young people on a quest to find their secret destiny. What's not to like?
Man, I wish I didn't mind the "why show it when you can tell the reader all about it" style of storytelling. It's just that when the characters stand still in the heat of action and start expounding on the things that are clearly visible to everyone - or listing off all the facts that led them to this place - I just feel like the momentum has been totally blown every time.
And the many many panels in which the characters pose while announcing their intentions or history - it's like I'm reading a DC comic, or something from the 80's. These "movie poster" pose panels are just about the most momentum-killing thing in comics today, and we can thank Jim Cheung for keeping the tradition alive.
Once we get to the climax, there's the usual foolishness of "I'll take responsibility!" "No, *I* will!" that doesn't amount to shit except making me sick of these third-grade dramatics.
Oh but wait there's more. He's dead! No she's dead! He's healed! Now he's not! I've got pants on! Now I don't! Seriously guys, can we dispense with the cheap theatrics and just tell a story with some heart? Pacing people, pacing - when someone makes a life-altering vow, don't treat it like it didn't happen FIVE PANELS LATER. Maybe it's just me, but I tend to take big things a little more seriously than that.
I feel like this was worth it - just barely - to find out how they brought Scarlet Witch back into the Marvel U. The plot was certainly interesting and gave us something to think about. It sure had echoes that will ring harder after Avengers vs. X-Men. But holy hell was the execution bad - well, a throwback anyway, to the bombastic, leaden and painfully melodramatic comics that I thought we'd left behind.
April 2, 2025
5 Golden Stars
by every passing page, I liked Billy more and MORE! joy & grin!
Action-packed & Exciting with Surprises! Great Start! thrilling continual! *gasp*
many nostalgic Characters I loved, plus all these interesting new ones (which are not exactly new for me after I've read a few of the Young Avengers & knowing them, but i guess you know what I mean? the characters you might not yet find in the movies)
Funny (not comedy, but routine sarcasms & banters) & cute
I love his narrative. my cute boiiiiiiiiiii
& cool Artwork
this one was one of my most anticipated comics for a long time & finally I've read it & I'm so happy it was as fantastic as I expected!
loved it & it deserved 5 stars
by every passing page, I liked Billy more and MORE! joy & grin!
Action-packed & Exciting with Surprises! Great Start! thrilling continual! *gasp*
many nostalgic Characters I loved, plus all these interesting new ones (which are not exactly new for me after I've read a few of the Young Avengers & knowing them, but i guess you know what I mean? the characters you might not yet find in the movies)
Funny (not comedy, but routine sarcasms & banters) & cute
I love his narrative. my cute boiiiiiiiiiii
& cool Artwork
this one was one of my most anticipated comics for a long time & finally I've read it & I'm so happy it was as fantastic as I expected!
loved it & it deserved 5 stars
March 30, 2024
I really liked this story and the artwork was wonderful. Enjoyed getting to know these "Young Avengers" because I am more familiar with the old-school character list of the Avengers & X-Men. As new characters were introduced, a brief explanation of who they were & how they were connected to others was part of the text. I liked the idea of Scarlet Witch being the mother of Wiccan & Speed, and the dynamics of Magneto being the twins' grandfather. But I have a few nitpicks/questions: The adult Avengers make a big deal that the Young Avengers are only teens- well, so were Spider-Man, Ice Man, Rogue and Jubilee when they were introduced as characters. Vision being the father of the twins was only glossed over, and I needed to check Wiki pages for back stories on several of the superheroes and their family relationships to one another to better understand the connections to one another. The decades of stories with different authors have made the whole Super Hero Universe VERY convoluted. Plus, while I loved seeing so many of the heroes in this book, at times it was just a token appearance & throw-away dialogue-they didn't really connect to the story at all. But all in all, a great Avengers book.
This review can also be found on my blog: https://graphicnovelty2.com/2016/01/2...
This review can also be found on my blog: https://graphicnovelty2.com/2016/01/2...
April 23, 2015
Utterly brilliant. A fine example of the best that Marvel has to offer. Instant classic and essential reading for all Marvel fans. This is super-hero comics at the top of the game. Touching and heartbreaking writing. Superb artwork.
Every Marvel fan simply must read this book.
Every Marvel fan simply must read this book.
September 5, 2013
I have no idea why I picked this up. I've never read Young Avengers. Most of the characters I don't know at all, and haven't seen in any other titles that I can remember. I wasn't particularly invested in the Scarlet Witch storyline after House of M. And yet here I am, reading it anyway. Surprisingly, it was actually pretty good. I'm sure I would have gotten more out of it, much more, if I'd been invested in the cast of Young Avengers. But I liked what I saw here, and I believed their motivations and internal conflicts. I can see that this gives some closure to what must have been a long running storyline in Young Avengers (are Wiccan and Speed the sons of Scarlet Witch?) and I imagine that somebody who had that backstory would feel a lot more satisfied with the resolution.
I have to wonder, after reading this, if Marvel editorial had already decided to do Avengers vs. X-Men, because a lot of the conflict here foreshadows what's to come. Maybe I'm giving Marvel editorial too much credit with that, because this conflict actually made more sense to me. Notably, everybody here is a hell of a lot more reasonable than they would be in Avengers vs. X-men. But I won't rehash my argument that the entire thing was unnecessary here. I'm not sure the way the conflict is resolved makes that much sense, and it sure doesn't speak much to justice to me, but it is, at least, a resolution.
I have to wonder, after reading this, if Marvel editorial had already decided to do Avengers vs. X-Men, because a lot of the conflict here foreshadows what's to come. Maybe I'm giving Marvel editorial too much credit with that, because this conflict actually made more sense to me. Notably, everybody here is a hell of a lot more reasonable than they would be in Avengers vs. X-men. But I won't rehash my argument that the entire thing was unnecessary here. I'm not sure the way the conflict is resolved makes that much sense, and it sure doesn't speak much to justice to me, but it is, at least, a resolution.
June 10, 2021
vision in the nun costume was my favourite part
March 14, 2023
Поредната прераздута история с куп герои, доста от които се мяркат в панелите просто за масовка, колкото да те объркат допълнително... Едни умират, други възкръсват, трети пътуват като мухи без глави напред и назад във времето, в миналото са добри, в бъдещето са зли... изобщо кошмарен Marvel тюрлюгювеч от висша степен...
July 10, 2021
dude that was wild
April 6, 2015
An interesting, moderately important storyline affecting pretty much the entire Marvel Universe, which went oddly unspoken about at the time of its release. This is essentially the followup to the Avengers: Disassembled and House of M storylines from years ago, as well as just generally an important event in the X-Men side of things. Or, it should've been.
While the story unfolds in a gradual and ultimately pretty epic style, it never really feels as important as it portends to be. This has the feel of a book that was written to satisfy everyone who wanted to know what the hell was going on with the Scarlet Witch post-House-of-M, but without actually ruffling any feathers. There are a few relatively small deaths (that are barely dealt with), a few changes to minor characters, and the return of the Scarlet Witch, but it's all done in such a way that allows it to totally avoid any of the HUUUUGE problems the Scarlet Witch's return should cause. This is basically a zero sum adventure, which would normally be fine, but it shouldn't have a zero sum. This should've been a massive blockbuster crossover, but instead feels like an adventure in a minor side comic.
I mean, the Scarlet Witch wiped out nearly every mutant on the planet with 3 words. It's been the biggest plotline in the X-Men universe for YEARS. And, once she comes back . So, that's it. Status quo maintained. Despite the obvious repercussions this development should've had.
As for the story itself, Heinberg's characterization and dialogue are pretty good. His writing of the Young Avengers feels particularly seasoned, hitting all their voices very well, but most of the other characters feel pretty same-y. The plot is interesting and kept me hooked for a while, until the aforementioned emptiness of the story reared its head. There are also a few instances of other characters just showing up out of nowhere to save the day, which is always a frustrating way to keep from having to deal with anything in the moment. Overall, it feels a little too been-there-done-that for my taste.
I would say this is worth a read for anyone who loved Disassembled of House of M. It's good to finally see some lingering strings from those stories (relatively) resolved, even if they don't matter as much as they should. Others probably won't get much out of this, though.
While the story unfolds in a gradual and ultimately pretty epic style, it never really feels as important as it portends to be. This has the feel of a book that was written to satisfy everyone who wanted to know what the hell was going on with the Scarlet Witch post-House-of-M, but without actually ruffling any feathers. There are a few relatively small deaths (that are barely dealt with), a few changes to minor characters, and the return of the Scarlet Witch, but it's all done in such a way that allows it to totally avoid any of the HUUUUGE problems the Scarlet Witch's return should cause. This is basically a zero sum adventure, which would normally be fine, but it shouldn't have a zero sum. This should've been a massive blockbuster crossover, but instead feels like an adventure in a minor side comic.
I mean, the Scarlet Witch wiped out nearly every mutant on the planet with 3 words. It's been the biggest plotline in the X-Men universe for YEARS. And, once she comes back . So, that's it. Status quo maintained. Despite the obvious repercussions this development should've had.
As for the story itself, Heinberg's characterization and dialogue are pretty good. His writing of the Young Avengers feels particularly seasoned, hitting all their voices very well, but most of the other characters feel pretty same-y. The plot is interesting and kept me hooked for a while, until the aforementioned emptiness of the story reared its head. There are also a few instances of other characters just showing up out of nowhere to save the day, which is always a frustrating way to keep from having to deal with anything in the moment. Overall, it feels a little too been-there-done-that for my taste.
I would say this is worth a read for anyone who loved Disassembled of House of M. It's good to finally see some lingering strings from those stories (relatively) resolved, even if they don't matter as much as they should. Others probably won't get much out of this, though.
February 9, 2024
The Children's Crusade. When I first read this, I was disappointed. We'd been waiting five years for Heinberg to return and tell the story that he alluded to in his original Young Avengers run. Oh, the plot itself was always good enough: everything that could be hoped for given its foreshadowing. The problem was that it doesn’t contain surprises like the original series did (other than the somewhat gratuitous deaths at the end to make it “important”). There was just so much fighting instead of cleverness and often the Young Avengers weren't even there, as Avengers, Doom, Scarlet Witch, and even the X-Men took center stage.
I also think that several of the decisions in the book left a bitter taste. XXX's death was horrible. (Fortunately, retconned down the road.) The whitewashing of all the horrible things the Scarlet Witch had done was also subpar.
But what I didn't appreciate the first time I read it was how well this bookends the whole story of the Young Avengers. That's mainly focused on the return of Iron Lad (with the look at him and the Young Avengers in the future being the best issue of the arc). Because the hunt for the Scarlet Witch wasn't the only crucial element foreshadowed in the original series. We also had the question of whether Iron Lad would become Kang. And that's wonderfully answered here (and was obviously the reason behind XXX's death, which seemed so gratuitous at the time). [4/5]
I also think that several of the decisions in the book left a bitter taste. XXX's death was horrible. (Fortunately, retconned down the road.) The whitewashing of all the horrible things the Scarlet Witch had done was also subpar.
But what I didn't appreciate the first time I read it was how well this bookends the whole story of the Young Avengers. That's mainly focused on the return of Iron Lad (with the look at him and the Young Avengers in the future being the best issue of the arc). Because the hunt for the Scarlet Witch wasn't the only crucial element foreshadowed in the original series. We also had the question of whether Iron Lad would become Kang. And that's wonderfully answered here (and was obviously the reason behind XXX's death, which seemed so gratuitous at the time). [4/5]
November 1, 2021
This volume of "Young Avengers" mostly focuses on Wiccan's quest to find the missing Scarlet Witch so he can discover whether he and Speed are actually Wanda's long lost children.
I felt a little disconnected because a bunch of stuff has happened between these two volumes, and it's been a long time since I read "House of M" or "Avengers vs X-Men", so there are parts of this book I zoned out of because it is part of a big all-connected universe and that element of comics is one I care less and less about.
I KNOW that reading a Marvel or DC comics means you have to go in with the understanding that there are always crossovers but I just got so tired of it, so because of that I didn't enjoy this book as much as the first. It's nothing to do with the writing, it's just the unfortunate result of Wanda being so important to the Marvel universe of course the Avengers and X-Men have to rock up.
The highlight is still the relationship between Wiccan and Hulking for me, of course. A cute gay couple doing their thing. Hulking constantly referring to Wiccan as his "idiot boyfriend" is entirely appropriate.
I felt a little disconnected because a bunch of stuff has happened between these two volumes, and it's been a long time since I read "House of M" or "Avengers vs X-Men", so there are parts of this book I zoned out of because it is part of a big all-connected universe and that element of comics is one I care less and less about.
I KNOW that reading a Marvel or DC comics means you have to go in with the understanding that there are always crossovers but I just got so tired of it, so because of that I didn't enjoy this book as much as the first. It's nothing to do with the writing, it's just the unfortunate result of Wanda being so important to the Marvel universe of course the Avengers and X-Men have to rock up.
The highlight is still the relationship between Wiccan and Hulking for me, of course. A cute gay couple doing their thing. Hulking constantly referring to Wiccan as his "idiot boyfriend" is entirely appropriate.
January 1, 2025
Este cómic ha sido todo lo que esperaba, y más. Si ya de por sí estos Jóvenes Vengadores me están gustando mucho, imaginad entonces esta historia donde se embarcan en un viaje para descubrir el paradero de la Bruja Escarlata, tras los sucesos de Dinastía de M. Yo ya ❤️ Y si encima tenemos a los Vengadores, la Patrulla X e incluso al Dr Muerte de por medio, el locurón tan potente que ha sido esta cruzada ha sido épico.
De nuevo además, con un dibujo del que soy muy muy fan.
De nuevo además, con un dibujo del que soy muy muy fan.
September 28, 2025
i love love love the mcu (primarily the mystic side) and i feel like such a fake fan for not being into the comics so here i am.
the art style is amazing! i loved seeing wanda (i miss her, please come home the kids need you) and all the characters that haven’t been introduced in the mcu yet. the comics will be a great way to fill the void while i wait for my family to return on screen 💔
the art style is amazing! i loved seeing wanda (i miss her, please come home the kids need you) and all the characters that haven’t been introduced in the mcu yet. the comics will be a great way to fill the void while i wait for my family to return on screen 💔
September 19, 2013
"The Children's Crusade" is an event book, of sorts, and contrary to a lot of other event books, the story is FUN, flows organically and has true, lasting repercussions on the Marvel Universe - and not a single tie-in issue! Yay! There's some real character growth, a few deaths (of course! - but some unexpected ones) and, by the end of the book, a new status quo - at least, for the Young Avengers team.
I am under the impression that this mini-series was not given the exposure it so rightly deserved. This book's got everything: Doctor Doom, Magneto, the Avengers (old & new), the X-Men, X-Factor and the Young Avengers (naturally). Everyone's motivations make sense and are justified, and with each and every one of them thinking they are right (and the others wrong), it creates interesting conflicts - and foreshadows Avengers vs. X-Men: the X-Men and the Avengers come to blows over who gets to decide what to do with the Scarlet Witch. Writer Allan Heinberg and artist Jim Cheung have given us a wonderfully structured and beautifully illustrated epic - in fact, Cheung's done his career-best (so far, so far) work on this book - that is sure to become one of the gems of any comic book reader's bookshelf. Let's not forget colourist Justin Ponsor's simply fabulous work.
I'd been waiting for this book a long time: since the first issue was sollicited. A nine-part story arc with each part released every two months. Let's do the math: that's eighteen months, plus the delay for the hardcover collected edition to come out, and we're looking at about two years' waiting time. My expectations were so high for this book, it would've been easy for me to feel let down. Well guess what: It was even better than what I could've imagined.
I won't say any more about this book, for fear of spoiling it. Once in a long while there comes a book that's almost too awesome for words, and this is one of them.
I am under the impression that this mini-series was not given the exposure it so rightly deserved. This book's got everything: Doctor Doom, Magneto, the Avengers (old & new), the X-Men, X-Factor and the Young Avengers (naturally). Everyone's motivations make sense and are justified, and with each and every one of them thinking they are right (and the others wrong), it creates interesting conflicts - and foreshadows Avengers vs. X-Men: the X-Men and the Avengers come to blows over who gets to decide what to do with the Scarlet Witch. Writer Allan Heinberg and artist Jim Cheung have given us a wonderfully structured and beautifully illustrated epic - in fact, Cheung's done his career-best (so far, so far) work on this book - that is sure to become one of the gems of any comic book reader's bookshelf. Let's not forget colourist Justin Ponsor's simply fabulous work.
I'd been waiting for this book a long time: since the first issue was sollicited. A nine-part story arc with each part released every two months. Let's do the math: that's eighteen months, plus the delay for the hardcover collected edition to come out, and we're looking at about two years' waiting time. My expectations were so high for this book, it would've been easy for me to feel let down. Well guess what: It was even better than what I could've imagined.
I won't say any more about this book, for fear of spoiling it. Once in a long while there comes a book that's almost too awesome for words, and this is one of them.
February 28, 2023
A excellent send off from the creator of Young Avengers.
Heingberg carefully creates a suspenseful story of kids trying to find their mother, doctor doom thrown in the mix, end of the world type stakes, featuring multiple teams such as the Avengers, Young Avengers and X-Men. This is a must read for Young Avenger fans but also if you like epic mini-events that are somehow self contained without a million tie ins. Well worth it. A 4.5 out of 5.
Heingberg carefully creates a suspenseful story of kids trying to find their mother, doctor doom thrown in the mix, end of the world type stakes, featuring multiple teams such as the Avengers, Young Avengers and X-Men. This is a must read for Young Avenger fans but also if you like epic mini-events that are somehow self contained without a million tie ins. Well worth it. A 4.5 out of 5.
April 3, 2021
Curioso, esta ha sido una de las lecturas que recuerdo que me resultó increiblemente decepcionante en su día y que en esta segunda lectura no me ha parecido taaaaaaaaaaaaaan mala, y de hecho me ha parecido entretenida y hasta la voy a dar un aprobado, algo con lo que realmente no contaba cuando empecé a leerla.
Jóvenes Vengadores ha sido uno de los proyectos más interesantes que sin duda han aparecido en lo que llevamos de siglo, con Allan Heinberg al frente del proyecto y los dibujos de Jimmy Cheung, en los días siguientes a Desunidos. Los Jóvenes Vengadores, que al principio parecían tenerlo todo en contra (¿una colección de sidekicks en Marvel? ¿En serio?) sorprendió a todo el mundo por su planteamiento, su calidad, sus personajes... Y quedó tan metida en la cabeza de los fans que la propia Marvel decidió que no iba a continuarla sin su equipo titular, así que después de la primera serie limitada del equipo, les vimos por separado en Jóvenes Vengadores Presentan, y hacer equipo con los Runaways durante World War Hulk e Invasión Secreta.
Pero finalmente llegó el momento y Allan Heinberg y Jimmy Cheung volvieron a cuadrar sus agendas y lanzar al mercado La Cruzada de los Niños... ahora, con sus particularidades, porque tardaron como dos años y pico en lanzar los diez números que componen la serie. Y desde luego en este caso Heinberg se lanzó a un proceso ambicioso, metiendo a los Jóvenes Vengadores en medio de una serie de tramas que llevaban años desarrollándose: todo lo relacionado con Desunidos, Dinastía de M y la desaparición de la Bruja Escarlata. Así, aprovechando las sospechas de Wiccan de que Bruja Escarlata pudiera (de alguna manera) ser su madre y la de Veloz, los Jóvenes Vengadores se sitúan en el centro de un conflicto a cuatro bandas entre los Vengadores, la Patrulla-X, el Doctor Muerte y la propia Wanda Maximoff. El dibujo de Cheung es tan espectacular como siempre, y aunque el planteamiento no puede ser más guay (¿La Bruja Escarlata y sus gemelos? Para mí es una debilidad), lo cierto es que Heinberg está muy lejos del "estado de gracia" en el que escribió la primera etapa de Jóvenes Vengadores, y aquí parece que las mismas situaciones se repiten una y otra vez, con los Vengadores, Magneto, Muerte o la Patrulla-X apareciendo por sorpresa una y otra vez.
Y lo que sigue siendo lo peor de todo es la manera absurda en la que Muerte se achaca a sí mismo la responsabilidad sobre la manipulación de Wanda y la destrucción de los Vengadores en sus manos, en una reiteración del argumento que ya hemos visto docenas de veces en el que cuando un héroe hace algo malo es porque estaba poseído. Lo vimos con Jean Grey y Fénix, lo vimos con Hal Jordan y Parallax, lo vimos con Sue Richards y Malicia... y lo vemos de nuevo aquí, pero sujeto con alfileres.
Y con todo esto, aún así, me ha parecido entretenido. Y sale la Bruja Escarlata. Y Wiccan. Y... pues suficiente, ¿no?
Jóvenes Vengadores ha sido uno de los proyectos más interesantes que sin duda han aparecido en lo que llevamos de siglo, con Allan Heinberg al frente del proyecto y los dibujos de Jimmy Cheung, en los días siguientes a Desunidos. Los Jóvenes Vengadores, que al principio parecían tenerlo todo en contra (¿una colección de sidekicks en Marvel? ¿En serio?) sorprendió a todo el mundo por su planteamiento, su calidad, sus personajes... Y quedó tan metida en la cabeza de los fans que la propia Marvel decidió que no iba a continuarla sin su equipo titular, así que después de la primera serie limitada del equipo, les vimos por separado en Jóvenes Vengadores Presentan, y hacer equipo con los Runaways durante World War Hulk e Invasión Secreta.
Pero finalmente llegó el momento y Allan Heinberg y Jimmy Cheung volvieron a cuadrar sus agendas y lanzar al mercado La Cruzada de los Niños... ahora, con sus particularidades, porque tardaron como dos años y pico en lanzar los diez números que componen la serie. Y desde luego en este caso Heinberg se lanzó a un proceso ambicioso, metiendo a los Jóvenes Vengadores en medio de una serie de tramas que llevaban años desarrollándose: todo lo relacionado con Desunidos, Dinastía de M y la desaparición de la Bruja Escarlata. Así, aprovechando las sospechas de Wiccan de que Bruja Escarlata pudiera (de alguna manera) ser su madre y la de Veloz, los Jóvenes Vengadores se sitúan en el centro de un conflicto a cuatro bandas entre los Vengadores, la Patrulla-X, el Doctor Muerte y la propia Wanda Maximoff. El dibujo de Cheung es tan espectacular como siempre, y aunque el planteamiento no puede ser más guay (¿La Bruja Escarlata y sus gemelos? Para mí es una debilidad), lo cierto es que Heinberg está muy lejos del "estado de gracia" en el que escribió la primera etapa de Jóvenes Vengadores, y aquí parece que las mismas situaciones se repiten una y otra vez, con los Vengadores, Magneto, Muerte o la Patrulla-X apareciendo por sorpresa una y otra vez.
Y lo que sigue siendo lo peor de todo es la manera absurda en la que Muerte se achaca a sí mismo la responsabilidad sobre la manipulación de Wanda y la destrucción de los Vengadores en sus manos, en una reiteración del argumento que ya hemos visto docenas de veces en el que cuando un héroe hace algo malo es porque estaba poseído. Lo vimos con Jean Grey y Fénix, lo vimos con Hal Jordan y Parallax, lo vimos con Sue Richards y Malicia... y lo vemos de nuevo aquí, pero sujeto con alfileres.
Y con todo esto, aún así, me ha parecido entretenido. Y sale la Bruja Escarlata. Y Wiccan. Y... pues suficiente, ¿no?
July 15, 2025
Vingadores A Cruzada das Crianças, é uma minissérie em 9 edições que foca em contar, literalmente, a jornada dos Jovens Vingadores em busca da Feiticeira Escarlate, que estava desaparecida desde os eventos de Dinastia M. É importante mencionar que a trama acontece após Vingadores a Queda e Dinastia M, sendo um momento em que os X-Men estão em um momento crítico, e os Vingadores estão com uma formação diferente, tentando se reerguer após tudo que aconteceu com eles na fase do Bendis. De certa forma, a história consegue se sustentar por si só, ela menciona alguns fatos anteriores, mas nada que não seja explicado na trama, porém, para maior aproveitamento da obra, é legal ter lido ao menos os 2 eventos supramencionados.
E no meio dessa “bagunça” das principais equipes da Marvel, os Jovens Vingadores ganham um destaque interessante, com uma formação bacana, que possui desenvolvimento e interação entre membros bem-feita.
A Cruzada das Crianças começa com o Magneto descobrindo que Wiccano e Célere provavelmente são seus netos, e assim, ele começa a matutar a ideia de encontra-los. Enquanto isso, o Wiccano está em uma missão com seus companheiros, mas sem querer, seus poderes se manifestam de maneira que ele coloca todos em sua volta para dormir. Nisso, os Vingadores começam a associar seus poderes com os de Wanda, enxergando-o como uma potencial ameaça. Por isso, ele é levado à mansão dos Vingadores para “ficar sob observação”. No entanto, os Jovens Vingadores e o Magneto resgatam Wicanno, e partem para a Missão de busca da Feiticeira Escarlate.
Além desse ponto, contar como a trama se desenvolve acaba se tornando spoiler, por isso vou focar em falar algumas características da história. No geral, é uma boa trama, até o meio pelo menos, pois eu estava gostando bastante e estava preso na história. Porém, a partir das edições 5-6, a trama começa a tomar muitos rumos, algumas coisas se tornam repetitivas e a história perde força. Toda a busca pela Wanda, o protagonismo das crianças e o primeiro embate dos Jovens Vingadores com o vilão da minissérie é bem interessante, no entanto, em momentos envolvendo os Vingadores e os X-Men, eu achei que as “crianças” ficaram escanteadas, perdendo o foco na sua própria minissérie. Além disso, o Hulkling ficou muito repetitivo com sua única função de “proteger seu namorado”, assim como as motivações dos embates entre Vingadores vs X-men que se resumem a eles não conseguirem conversar, basicamente.
No entanto, é importante destacar temas trabalhados por meio dos membros dos Jovens Vingadores, tal qual compaixão, perdão, hipocrisia, justiça e confiança, que são bem desenvolvidos e destoam dos heróis adultos, que não conseguem resolver seus dilemas e são hipócritas demais para admitir. Essa inocência/pureza que os Jovens Vingadores passam, serve como algo que caracteriza bem essa nova equipe da Mavel.
Além disso, a trama me perdeu com as excessivas tentativas da Marvel e seu editorial em buscar justificativa e apontar um culpado para os poderes da Wanda terem se descontrolado e cometido o genocídio mutante. Somado a isso, o rapaz de ferro com toda aquela fixação em voltar no tampo e tentar alterar o passado, e consequentemente o futuro, acabou sendo confuso e repetitivo também.
E no meio dessa “bagunça” das principais equipes da Marvel, os Jovens Vingadores ganham um destaque interessante, com uma formação bacana, que possui desenvolvimento e interação entre membros bem-feita.
A Cruzada das Crianças começa com o Magneto descobrindo que Wiccano e Célere provavelmente são seus netos, e assim, ele começa a matutar a ideia de encontra-los. Enquanto isso, o Wiccano está em uma missão com seus companheiros, mas sem querer, seus poderes se manifestam de maneira que ele coloca todos em sua volta para dormir. Nisso, os Vingadores começam a associar seus poderes com os de Wanda, enxergando-o como uma potencial ameaça. Por isso, ele é levado à mansão dos Vingadores para “ficar sob observação”. No entanto, os Jovens Vingadores e o Magneto resgatam Wicanno, e partem para a Missão de busca da Feiticeira Escarlate.
Além desse ponto, contar como a trama se desenvolve acaba se tornando spoiler, por isso vou focar em falar algumas características da história. No geral, é uma boa trama, até o meio pelo menos, pois eu estava gostando bastante e estava preso na história. Porém, a partir das edições 5-6, a trama começa a tomar muitos rumos, algumas coisas se tornam repetitivas e a história perde força. Toda a busca pela Wanda, o protagonismo das crianças e o primeiro embate dos Jovens Vingadores com o vilão da minissérie é bem interessante, no entanto, em momentos envolvendo os Vingadores e os X-Men, eu achei que as “crianças” ficaram escanteadas, perdendo o foco na sua própria minissérie. Além disso, o Hulkling ficou muito repetitivo com sua única função de “proteger seu namorado”, assim como as motivações dos embates entre Vingadores vs X-men que se resumem a eles não conseguirem conversar, basicamente.
No entanto, é importante destacar temas trabalhados por meio dos membros dos Jovens Vingadores, tal qual compaixão, perdão, hipocrisia, justiça e confiança, que são bem desenvolvidos e destoam dos heróis adultos, que não conseguem resolver seus dilemas e são hipócritas demais para admitir. Essa inocência/pureza que os Jovens Vingadores passam, serve como algo que caracteriza bem essa nova equipe da Mavel.
Além disso, a trama me perdeu com as excessivas tentativas da Marvel e seu editorial em buscar justificativa e apontar um culpado para os poderes da Wanda terem se descontrolado e cometido o genocídio mutante. Somado a isso, o rapaz de ferro com toda aquela fixação em voltar no tampo e tentar alterar o passado, e consequentemente o futuro, acabou sendo confuso e repetitivo também.
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May 25, 2021not as satisfying as the original run but lots of good moments! a little too stuffed imo, like I didn't particularly need the avengers... and the x-men.... AND doctor doom and magneto. wish we cut some of that stuff for more character moments with the young avengers themselves since this is the last time (3) we'll see many of them. great art though! and billy and teddy kiss! hell yeah!
January 10, 2023
Well, I didn't expect that there were going to be some fine moments in this one, I was only expecting the typical cliché. Of course, it was mostly that last part.
July 22, 2013
Simply put, I love this book. The first volume of Heinberg and Cheung's Young Avengers was similarly flawless, to be honest, and it seems that whenever these two come together to create something with these characters, it's destined to be brilliant.
The story is relevant to the Marvel Universe, bringing back the Scarlet Witch, and involves a plethora of Avengers and X-Characters, all of whom are well written (bar Wolverine, who seems more bloodthirsty than usual), and the artwork is superb pretty much all the way through.
I do take issue with the way the issues are collected however. The prologue from Uncanny X-Men #526 is at the back of the trade for some odd reason, as is the one-shot that takes place between issues 5 and 6 or so. It just seems slapdash, and I think the fact that this trade was rushed out so that it would be available before Avengers Vs. X-Men began is a reason why.
Despite that, this remains one of my favourite books of all time, and with good reason. Viva Young Avengers.
The story is relevant to the Marvel Universe, bringing back the Scarlet Witch, and involves a plethora of Avengers and X-Characters, all of whom are well written (bar Wolverine, who seems more bloodthirsty than usual), and the artwork is superb pretty much all the way through.
I do take issue with the way the issues are collected however. The prologue from Uncanny X-Men #526 is at the back of the trade for some odd reason, as is the one-shot that takes place between issues 5 and 6 or so. It just seems slapdash, and I think the fact that this trade was rushed out so that it would be available before Avengers Vs. X-Men began is a reason why.
Despite that, this remains one of my favourite books of all time, and with good reason. Viva Young Avengers.
November 19, 2013
Children's Crusade is pretty awesome. It's not exactly a pure Young Avengers comic -- it's definitely a crossover comic -- but it does feature quite a lot of Billy being awesome, supported by the other Young Avengers, and a fair bit of Teddy being awesome. It also features their first (I think) on-page kiss, and is generally more blatant about their relationship than the other comics so far. There's some awesome dialogue, and some lovely funny geeky bits about Billy and Teddy.
It also pulls in the X-Men, the Avengers, backlash from House of M, and features quite a few characters we know and love (or hate).
It's also not without consequences, as even the Young Avengers lose people from their line-up.
On the other hand, I can see some other people's problems with it: it seems to go back on some previous Marvel events and erase their consequences, and it really is one gigantic squabble between various superhero groups, with the teenage Young Avengers coming out as maybe the most mature.
It also pulls in the X-Men, the Avengers, backlash from House of M, and features quite a few characters we know and love (or hate).
It's also not without consequences, as even the Young Avengers lose people from their line-up.
On the other hand, I can see some other people's problems with it: it seems to go back on some previous Marvel events and erase their consequences, and it really is one gigantic squabble between various superhero groups, with the teenage Young Avengers coming out as maybe the most mature.
March 30, 2021
An almost-perfect Marvel event, and I'm still surprised that I missed it. Heinberg and Cheung hit a lot of emotional notes with Billy and Tommy's quest to reunite with their mother, the Scarlet Witch, which eventually ropes in their teammates the Young Avengers, Magneto and Pietro, Dr. Doom, as well as the Avengers and X-Men, who have their own reasons for finding Wanda after she wiped out nearly all mutants. Even though most of the Young Avengers quickly recede to the background, and one of their own die -which frankly didn't feel nearly as emotional as it should have been - it's still an excellent event. Heinberg balances individual character struggles and growth within a really big story; and along with Hulkling and Wiccan being adorable, Heinberg also brings in Shatterstar and Rictor which is great. And Cheung might be one of my favorite artists, his work is so consistent and dynamic, along with great ink and color work by Mark Morales and Justin Ponsor.
December 2, 2012
Collects the 9-issue miniseries and accompanying couple of issues, focusing on the Young Avengers and two of their members -- Wiccan and Speed -- who want to confirm if they are really the lost children of the Scarlet Witch and the Vision.
But the Scarlet Witch is missing, and given her role in the "No More Mutants" genocide of mutantkind, some of the people also looking for her may have another agenda than a family reunion ... the Avengers ...the X-Men ... Magneto ... and Doctor Doom.
A great, intricate, delightfully crafted story, beautiful artwork helped by the oversize format (something I usually detests) -- and, alas, all rendered 85% obsolete by the whole Avengers vs. X-Men dust-up this past year and change. Bleah. But this book? Five stars.
But the Scarlet Witch is missing, and given her role in the "No More Mutants" genocide of mutantkind, some of the people also looking for her may have another agenda than a family reunion ... the Avengers ...the X-Men ... Magneto ... and Doctor Doom.
A great, intricate, delightfully crafted story, beautiful artwork helped by the oversize format (something I usually detests) -- and, alas, all rendered 85% obsolete by the whole Avengers vs. X-Men dust-up this past year and change. Bleah. But this book? Five stars.
May 2, 2018
Some points:
- Patriot is as insufferable and judgemental as his predecessor (Captain America)
- Steve Roger is such a fucking loser and his anti-mutant is showing
- I don't understand Logan's rage nor do I want to understand it
- Pietro's behavior is understandable
- Both the Avengers and X-Men are equally quick-to-judge and doesn't think things through
- Magneto is right as always. We love one (1) Marvel grandfather
- Patriot is as insufferable and judgemental as his predecessor (Captain America)
- Steve Roger is such a fucking loser and his anti-mutant is showing
- I don't understand Logan's rage nor do I want to understand it
- Pietro's behavior is understandable
- Both the Avengers and X-Men are equally quick-to-judge and doesn't think things through
- Magneto is right as always. We love one (1) Marvel grandfather
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