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The Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide
Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide Vol. 9: Go Down Swinging
GO DOWN SWINGING! Norman Osborn has finally found a way to become a Goblin again and is funning for Spider-Man in the biggest way possible. His new weapon? THE CARNAGE SYMBIOTE!!! There's never been a bigger tougher Goblin/Spider-Man story than this one, so strap in, True Believers!
COLLECTING: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 797-801
COLLECTING: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 797-801
136 pages, Paperback
First published December 11, 2018
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Dan Slott
2,001 books454 followersDan Slott is an American comic book writer, the current writer on Marvel Comics' The Amazing Spider-Man, and is best known for his work on books such as Arkham Asylum: Living Hell, She-Hulk, Silver Surfer, The Superior Spider-Man, and Ren & Stimpy.
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October 23, 2023
After TEN - yes TEN years, it has come to Dan Slott's final arc on Amazing Spider-Man, and I couldn't have asked for more - Peter Parke, unmasked, friends at risk, Red Goblin, Venom, Spider-Slayer, Doc Octopus, Miles Morale, Cash, Silk, Human Torch and J Jonah Jameson (trying to put out fires! )!. A wonderful finale that left me further respecting for Slott, now the writer to have written the most Spidey books ever. Too many Marvel creators end their runs on a low point and/or with cancellation, but Slott leaves with one of the best Osborn stories ever. Thank you :) 9 out of 12, Four Star finale.
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March 3, 2019
A strong finish to Dan Slott's epic run on Spider-Man. Red Goblin looked a bit goofy, especially that tail that made no sense, but the writing more than made up for it. Slott did a great job of bringing Spider-Man's supporting cast into the book and making them all feel threatened. That surprise ending has me a little ticked, just because I'd really grown to like him/her/it. I'm glad Slott didn't completely reset Spider-Man's world before he left which is what the whole fall of Parker Industries felt like. He should give Spencer some things he needs to work through on his run. I'm going to miss Dan Slott on the book. He made me really enjoy Spider-Man again after decades of mediocrity. I have always been a loyal fan but Amazing Spider-Man hasn't been really good before Dan Slott's run since the 80's.
December 25, 2018
Probably more like 4.5 stars but, what the heck, it’s Christmas Day and I’m feeling generous.
So, ASM 800, eh? I can’t believe I’ve been reading this book for 576 issues... I’d say it makes me feel old but, every time I crack open a Spidey book, I’m seven years old all over again.
Happy Christmas, webheads, and remember:
with great power there must also come great responsibility!
I’ve got to go now; my mince pie sense is tingling...
So, ASM 800, eh? I can’t believe I’ve been reading this book for 576 issues... I’d say it makes me feel old but, every time I crack open a Spidey book, I’m seven years old all over again.
Happy Christmas, webheads, and remember:
with great power there must also come great responsibility!
I’ve got to go now; my mince pie sense is tingling...
August 11, 2018
What's cool with Dan Slott imho is that he's constant. Some runs are better than others, some not so great, but on the long run it's good, decent, stuff.
Cool thing, his -sadly- last run on ASM is part of the "better than others". After a mild building-up last volume waiting for the 800th issue, everything is set loose in this final-until next time-confrontation with Norman Osborn, now "carnage-symbioted".
All-out action on almost every page, tension, cool lines, emotions; everything that makes a good Spidey story is here. Of course it's open-ended enough to pave way for future runs. Of course we'll see Norman Osborn again. But what the heck, as much as I'm open to mind-bending new stuff and all as much I also take comfort in good ol' fashioned stories. When it's good it's good, period.
In all honesty I found Slott's very last issue (#801) a bit lackluster. Pov from a civilian "saved" it tries to enhance the "friendly neighborhood" side of Spidey but falls a bit short. That doesn't undermine Slott's excellent tenure of the title over the years.
Bonus for everyone: artist extraordinaire Stuart Immonen-I'll never praise him enough- pencils most of the run and the others (Ramos, Camuncoli, Martin...) are no small-timers themselves so just treat yourself.
I look forward to read Slott's run on FF.
Cool thing, his -sadly- last run on ASM is part of the "better than others". After a mild building-up last volume waiting for the 800th issue, everything is set loose in this final-until next time-confrontation with Norman Osborn, now "carnage-symbioted".
All-out action on almost every page, tension, cool lines, emotions; everything that makes a good Spidey story is here. Of course it's open-ended enough to pave way for future runs. Of course we'll see Norman Osborn again. But what the heck, as much as I'm open to mind-bending new stuff and all as much I also take comfort in good ol' fashioned stories. When it's good it's good, period.
In all honesty I found Slott's very last issue (#801) a bit lackluster. Pov from a civilian "saved" it tries to enhance the "friendly neighborhood" side of Spidey but falls a bit short. That doesn't undermine Slott's excellent tenure of the title over the years.
Bonus for everyone: artist extraordinaire Stuart Immonen-I'll never praise him enough- pencils most of the run and the others (Ramos, Camuncoli, Martin...) are no small-timers themselves so just treat yourself.
I look forward to read Slott's run on FF.
June 23, 2018
It has to be said - Goblin Carnage is dumb.
Yeah okay combine two villains together to make an ultimate super villain. Or not because they're both as formidable alone.
I get Slott was trying to do something different for his last arc, maybe? But I'm so bored of a Symbiote being thrown on a character and us being told that this is a story. It's rarely it works (Flash Thompson is an example of when it's been great).
But now that I've said that, Slott's last volume, for me anyway, was a hit! Though I didn't like the Goblin Carnage concept, there was still a lot here I enjoyed. Green Goblin is my favourite (or sometimes tied with Doc Ock) as my favourite Spidey villain so chances are I'm going to enjoy a story he's in. And I'm also a big Stuart Immonen fan.
And the last couple of issues (I've reviewed 801 on its own) have some of the best Spider-man moments I've ever read.
And so we say farewell to Dan Slott. It has been a ride. Interesting side note, I started buying Amazing Spider-man regularly in singles a few months before Dan Slott took over because I was excited for his run. I didn't know at the time it would last 10 years (I would have been 20 when he started and I'm now 30). When a writer is on something that long, it's going to be inconsistent at times. I have reviewed some of his volume on here, and often it's "not one of the better arcs" or "SO GOOD BEST SPIDEY EVER" and that's how I'll look back on his run. The lows were bad at times but the highs were so good.
So thanks for the Spidey comics, Dan. I'll see you in Fantastic Four!
Yeah okay combine two villains together to make an ultimate super villain. Or not because they're both as formidable alone.
I get Slott was trying to do something different for his last arc, maybe? But I'm so bored of a Symbiote being thrown on a character and us being told that this is a story. It's rarely it works (Flash Thompson is an example of when it's been great).
But now that I've said that, Slott's last volume, for me anyway, was a hit! Though I didn't like the Goblin Carnage concept, there was still a lot here I enjoyed. Green Goblin is my favourite (or sometimes tied with Doc Ock) as my favourite Spidey villain so chances are I'm going to enjoy a story he's in. And I'm also a big Stuart Immonen fan.
And the last couple of issues (I've reviewed 801 on its own) have some of the best Spider-man moments I've ever read.
And so we say farewell to Dan Slott. It has been a ride. Interesting side note, I started buying Amazing Spider-man regularly in singles a few months before Dan Slott took over because I was excited for his run. I didn't know at the time it would last 10 years (I would have been 20 when he started and I'm now 30). When a writer is on something that long, it's going to be inconsistent at times. I have reviewed some of his volume on here, and often it's "not one of the better arcs" or "SO GOOD BEST SPIDEY EVER" and that's how I'll look back on his run. The lows were bad at times but the highs were so good.
So thanks for the Spidey comics, Dan. I'll see you in Fantastic Four!
July 26, 2018
بالاخره بعد از 7 سال و 100 شماره کمیک باید به خداحافظی با دن اسلات برسیم که انصفا ایده های عالی هم داشت ولی با اجرای ضعیف
ولی اعتراف میکنم آرک پایانی غالی بود و دیوانگی جوکر رو بیاد می اورد
ولی اعتراف میکنم آرک پایانی غالی بود و دیوانگی جوکر رو بیاد می اورد
July 27, 2021
This was epic!
Norman osborn has rediscovered who Peter really is and with the help of the carnage symbiote he has become the Red Goblin and no one is safe and he targets Peter on all fronts and all his loved ones and it will take Peter the help of his close allies to save them and he confronts Norman multiple times and finally when he targets his god child and all and when one of his friends is lost, Peter and Norman go at it one last time for he will go down swinging.
This was just epic in every way possible like the writer holds nothing back, all things that have been there in his run is here from Venom to Doc Ock to even the death of a major supporting character and all, and the fight is brutal and Norman is just ruthless. He won't stop and the way it ends is just so awesome and will make you love Spidey again.
Finally the part which is the last issue of Slott, he tells how awesome Spidey is through a man named Kenneth and its so sweet. Its a perfect way to end an epic run and deserves all the accolades. Just great ending to Slott's long run!
Norman osborn has rediscovered who Peter really is and with the help of the carnage symbiote he has become the Red Goblin and no one is safe and he targets Peter on all fronts and all his loved ones and it will take Peter the help of his close allies to save them and he confronts Norman multiple times and finally when he targets his god child and all and when one of his friends is lost, Peter and Norman go at it one last time for he will go down swinging.
This was just epic in every way possible like the writer holds nothing back, all things that have been there in his run is here from Venom to Doc Ock to even the death of a major supporting character and all, and the fight is brutal and Norman is just ruthless. He won't stop and the way it ends is just so awesome and will make you love Spidey again.
Finally the part which is the last issue of Slott, he tells how awesome Spidey is through a man named Kenneth and its so sweet. Its a perfect way to end an epic run and deserves all the accolades. Just great ending to Slott's long run!
March 3, 2019
"Yeah, every day, Spider-Man saves somebody's uncle."
Dan Slott's decade-long reign as a Spidey writer may have its share of detractors, but let nobody say that he didn't have an absolute love and understanding of Peter Parker the man and the wide cast of characters around him, nor did he ever find himself short of unique and exciting ideas for challenges to throw at him.
I always thought of Slott as something of an anti-Mark Millar; Millar truly writes some of the worst dialogue and character work you can find in mainstream comics, but the pacing and tempo of his plotting is so nature that it most often makes the read worthwhile, or at least bearable, and is probably a huge contributing factor to seemingly everything he writes getting a movie adaptation. While I wouldn't say Slott's plots are as bad as Millar's dialogue, the words he puts in his characters' mouths, and how they illuminate the characters that speak them, are what makes him something truly special to behold for the comics industry, and very often justification for the price of admission in a way the situations he puts his characters in don't always achieve.
This coda to his epic-length run on Amazing Spider-Man goes a long way toward fixing that problem; the final volume is action-packed and breakneck in its inertia, but never feels rushed, and leaves the reader wanting more but knowing that even the best stories need their conclusions.
January 13, 2019
I had grown quite tired of Slott's run and I'm ready for him to move on (which he has). Reading the conclusion to his 10 year run on Amazing made me sit up and take notice though. It's a much more serious run, with Osborn sinking to some very deep lows to get his revenge. Goblin has made some heinous plans and to solve it it's going to take the entire Spider-Man team to get out of it while still throwing in a few surprises. This story brings together just about everybody from Spidey's new supporting cast to resolve the conflict and even set up a couple more things for the next writer. There are a few things (status of characters) that I wasn't aware of, which led to a little bit of conclusion, and if it's the same for you, you will just have to go with it because there is no explanation.
Unfortunately, Immonen wasn't able to draw all of the main story, but what he does draw looks spectacular. A few issues are drawn by Ramos and Camuncoli, other artists from Slott's recent run.
The last issue is a bittersweet goodbye to Spider-Man, taking the reader back to the beginning of his career to once again show why Spider-Man is the most self-less hero and inspires the most good in others, beautifully rendered by Marcos Martin to mimic the Ditko style.
In the end, a nice conclusion which helps to wash away some of the bitterness which had built-up from Slott's extended stay. There were some outstanding spots along the way, bringing new things to the life of Peter (his own multi-national corporation comes to mind), but there were spots of corniness too. In the end though, Slott's tenure will stand the test of time as one of the best eras for Spider-Man.
Unfortunately, Immonen wasn't able to draw all of the main story, but what he does draw looks spectacular. A few issues are drawn by Ramos and Camuncoli, other artists from Slott's recent run.
The last issue is a bittersweet goodbye to Spider-Man, taking the reader back to the beginning of his career to once again show why Spider-Man is the most self-less hero and inspires the most good in others, beautifully rendered by Marcos Martin to mimic the Ditko style.
In the end, a nice conclusion which helps to wash away some of the bitterness which had built-up from Slott's extended stay. There were some outstanding spots along the way, bringing new things to the life of Peter (his own multi-national corporation comes to mind), but there were spots of corniness too. In the end though, Slott's tenure will stand the test of time as one of the best eras for Spider-Man.
March 10, 2019
Good god Slott, had to write your philosophical treatise on the psyches of Peter Parker and Norman Osborn, did you? Couldn’t wait to pour out every overbaked angle on why Spider is better than Goblin? Thank god you had 80 pages of overstuffed wordsmithing to try it out a few ways, in case one of them didn’t land.
(Geesh, I think working with Christos Gage all these years has infected you with the Non-Subtle Gene.)
Monologuing while punching. Isn’t that a misdemeanour in some jurisdictions? I’m thinking this book gets your charges upgraded to a felony.
No, I’m not “uplifted” or “enthralled” at the sight of Spidey fighting alongside all his sidekicks, or getting the mother-of-all-battles against his Uber-arch-nemesis. It’s fun, and it’s got some weight, but it also feels like a complete repeat of so many climactic face-offs l have forgotten more than I remember. Deaths, oh so many deaths that will be reset - not once has any one of these fine folks died before and not been resurrected - zombies, you’re all a bunch of shamblers, don’t know when to walk out of the scene.
I *am* a little torn up about one thing though - after this long with some of the oddballs who Slott created, its gonna be hard to let them go when future creators don’t have time to keep them on life support, once they start cranking out their own way weirdos. Maria Marconi most of all - she was always the upgraded stand-in for the shit that was slung by MJ at Monsieur Parkour, and even though she’s taken a second-string position lately, she’s still a rock-solid contribution to Spider-mythos. Bye-bye Marconi, see you in the next all-spiders team-up.
(Geesh, I think working with Christos Gage all these years has infected you with the Non-Subtle Gene.)
Monologuing while punching. Isn’t that a misdemeanour in some jurisdictions? I’m thinking this book gets your charges upgraded to a felony.
No, I’m not “uplifted” or “enthralled” at the sight of Spidey fighting alongside all his sidekicks, or getting the mother-of-all-battles against his Uber-arch-nemesis. It’s fun, and it’s got some weight, but it also feels like a complete repeat of so many climactic face-offs l have forgotten more than I remember. Deaths, oh so many deaths that will be reset - not once has any one of these fine folks died before and not been resurrected - zombies, you’re all a bunch of shamblers, don’t know when to walk out of the scene.
I *am* a little torn up about one thing though - after this long with some of the oddballs who Slott created, its gonna be hard to let them go when future creators don’t have time to keep them on life support, once they start cranking out their own way weirdos. Maria Marconi most of all - she was always the upgraded stand-in for the shit that was slung by MJ at Monsieur Parkour, and even though she’s taken a second-string position lately, she’s still a rock-solid contribution to Spider-mythos. Bye-bye Marconi, see you in the next all-spiders team-up.
June 20, 2021
A true, shivering, love letter to Spidey.
Must read. By everybody.
Dan Slott wrote comic history. Sir, I bow to you.
Must read. By everybody.
Dan Slott wrote comic history. Sir, I bow to you.
January 1, 2019
Go Down Swinging (797-800). Slott's last major arc for Spider-Man is a strong one: it focuses on Peter's biggest foe, Norman Osbourne, but simultaneously returns to many of the peoples that were important on his run. The 800th issue runs a little long, but the surprise returns (and shock ending) make up for it. All around, this is a fine capstone to Slott's run, and even though there's been way too much reset button in these last years, it's good to see some things stick around, like Peter's new relationship with Jonah. [4+/5].
There for You (801). A nice, short coda reminding us who Spider-Man is [4+/5].
October 18, 2018
I liked it.
It was ok most of the time, the artwork was great, but some things got me cringing, I get why would Slott do all them homages and whatnot, throw some stuff that happened before and hola at older scenes/dialoges from classic spidey issues, but it was.. eh.. like, yeah yeah we know.. yeah little Osborn threw the glider on his father.. and Spidey yells out CLASSIC.. and everything and everyone around is cringing.
Stuff like that made me rate it lower, the villain, Norman Osborn on drugs.. um I mean Norman Osborn with a Symbiote... and that is Carnage! Meh
Like let's Venomize someone and call it a new threat! Oh well..
I didn't like the idea, I liked the dialogue. No matter what Slott is constant on fun writing. Even after the things that I didn't like, I like most of it. And that's all on Slott.
I fucking loved his Superior Spider-Man and his Spidey before that and his spidey after that. Dunno how the new one's gonna be but if it's half as good as Slott was all these years I'm gonna be buying Spidey for sure!
It was ok most of the time, the artwork was great, but some things got me cringing, I get why would Slott do all them homages and whatnot, throw some stuff that happened before and hola at older scenes/dialoges from classic spidey issues, but it was.. eh.. like, yeah yeah we know.. yeah little Osborn threw the glider on his father.. and Spidey yells out CLASSIC.. and everything and everyone around is cringing.
Stuff like that made me rate it lower, the villain, Norman Osborn on drugs.. um I mean Norman Osborn with a Symbiote... and that is Carnage! Meh
Like let's Venomize someone and call it a new threat! Oh well..
I didn't like the idea, I liked the dialogue. No matter what Slott is constant on fun writing. Even after the things that I didn't like, I like most of it. And that's all on Slott.
I fucking loved his Superior Spider-Man and his Spidey before that and his spidey after that. Dunno how the new one's gonna be but if it's half as good as Slott was all these years I'm gonna be buying Spidey for sure!
November 18, 2025
J'ai l'air d'avoir lu deux fois de suite le même comic mais l'autre c'était l'issue #797 seulement et celui là c'est de 797 à 800. C'est la première fois que je lisais un arc complet et sûrement pas la dernière.
J'ai googled quel arc était un des meilleurs et j'ai aussi souvent vu la carte de Red Goblin dans Marvel Snap sans savoir d'où elle venait. Je suis pas déçu de l'histoire, mais comme un autre lecteur a dit: c'est un peu easy de throw un symbiote sur un villain pour avoir une version upgradé mais bon.
J'ai googled quel arc était un des meilleurs et j'ai aussi souvent vu la carte de Red Goblin dans Marvel Snap sans savoir d'où elle venait. Je suis pas déçu de l'histoire, mais comme un autre lecteur a dit: c'est un peu easy de throw un symbiote sur un villain pour avoir une version upgradé mais bon.
December 31, 2020
Took me a while to get to this one, but it was a phenomenal finale to Dan Slott's Spider-Man run. I enjoyed it, beginning from end; Slott has penned a great many of my favourite Spider-Man stories (how could he not, he was the one writing ASM when I began reading it and was still writing it when I took a long break from Marvel comics). It's been a good era for Spider-Man fans, this one. I look forward to seeing what Nick Spencer has done with this character since 2018.
It's a pleasing
It's a pleasing
January 27, 2019
Collects Amazing Spider-Man (2015) issues #797-801
This is the big conclusion to Dan Slott's long, long run on "Amazing." I've thoroughly enjoyed reading Slott's work, and this epic story was a great way for him to go down swinging. The Spider-Man vs. Red Goblin story was very solid, and Issue #801 was a heart-warming conclusion to this 10-year Slott run.
This is the big conclusion to Dan Slott's long, long run on "Amazing." I've thoroughly enjoyed reading Slott's work, and this epic story was a great way for him to go down swinging. The Spider-Man vs. Red Goblin story was very solid, and Issue #801 was a heart-warming conclusion to this 10-year Slott run.
January 16, 2019
Somehow, just didn't feel as epic as it should have, somehow. Decent enough.
December 17, 2021
Thanks for lending me this one Mariolini. It was a quick, fun read.
July 6, 2021
Dan Slott's run on Spider-Man will always be iconic, and I don't think it could've ended any better than this!
Osborn has always been my favorite Spidey villain, which made me love this one all the more. And yes, I can agree with a lot of y'all that his new look is a bit ridiculous, but there's no denying his very presence keeps me on the edge of the seat. After all, the guys has arguably done a lot of physical and emotional damage to Peter compared to the other villains.
And yes, being a finale, expect a lot of characters to make their appearances, and a lot of carnage and action. The artists too are ready for the task, and they've done a fabulous job here.
All in all, The Amazing Spider-Man run may have had it's ups and downs, but this one delivers. I'm definitely gonna miss Slott, but I can't wait to see what Nick Spencer has in store for our favorite wall-crawler.
Recommended for all Spidey fans, and anyone just looking for a good comic to read.
4/5
Osborn has always been my favorite Spidey villain, which made me love this one all the more. And yes, I can agree with a lot of y'all that his new look is a bit ridiculous, but there's no denying his very presence keeps me on the edge of the seat. After all, the guys has arguably done a lot of physical and emotional damage to Peter compared to the other villains.
And yes, being a finale, expect a lot of characters to make their appearances, and a lot of carnage and action. The artists too are ready for the task, and they've done a fabulous job here.
All in all, The Amazing Spider-Man run may have had it's ups and downs, but this one delivers. I'm definitely gonna miss Slott, but I can't wait to see what Nick Spencer has in store for our favorite wall-crawler.
Recommended for all Spidey fans, and anyone just looking for a good comic to read.
4/5
January 13, 2022
ENGLISH and SPANISH review:
<<<<>>>>SPANISH
Saltee dos volumenes porque me estaba aburriendo de Worldwide y entré en este porque es el final,además leí que es bueno.
Antes de hablar de este último volumen,hablemos de Dan Slott en Spider-Man. Gran parte de su etapa no la disfruté,pero es la etapa del héroe que más leí (ya voy a enmendar esto). Creo que Slott no es un mal escritor,es más,tuvo la monumental tarea de levantar al personaje después de el DESASTRE que es Un Día Más,escribiendo desde ahí hasta estos últimos volúmenes al personaje. En lo personal disfruté de Un Nuevo Día y de varias de sus ideas como Superior,Anti-Venom,Isla araña,Spider-Verse (uno de mis eventos favoritos) y este Red Goblin. También me gusta cómo es capáz de plantar desde mucho tiempo previo a los eventos semillas de lo que pasará,por ej: el hijo de Harry estando celoso (EDDDDDGYYY) el asesino de los rastreadores y esos goblins raros. Y quiero destacar que disfruté de varias partes de su etapa: además de Un Nuevo Día,Gran momento me enloquece,me encanta Asuntos de vida y muerte y Superior Spider-Man.
Ahora,creo que lo que Slott es incapaz de hacer es engancharme o tensionarme en sus historias. Aprecio su esfuerzo de agregar nuevos personajes a este mundo pero nunca llega a interesarme o preocuparme por ellos. Muchas de sus etapas son bastante aburridas y Dan,por alguna razón no logra emocionarme en escenas importantes y creo que es culpa de su prosa,puede que sea bueno planeando eventos e ideas,pero no le sale bien desarrollar la acción en sí.
Terminado esto,vamos a este volumen:
¿Qué cosas cambiaron despues de el salto? No mucho. Peter es pobre de vuelta,Flash Thompson siendo nuevamente Agente Anti-Venom (lo de Anti es nuevo) y Norman Osborn,el cuál perdió su suero de duende consigue hacerse con Carnage el cuál terminó en una base que Norman robó (ni idea que hacía ahí). Este nuevo Red Goblin recupera su memoria acerca de la identidad de Spider-Man y se decide a terminar con él.
Es una lástima que cómo siempre,esta idea interesante se quede ahí,la historia se desarrolla sin demasiados desafíos,Peter se la pasa corriendo de acá para allá (incluso de negro) perdiendo contra un Osborn sin debilidades debido a la fusión,excepto la de verse estupidísimo con esa cola rara y diseño feo,yo hubiera optado por algo cómo la portada,no esa cosa fea. Hablando de debilidades,pierde por su propio ego ¿Me gusta ese descenlace? Nah,tiene un poco de sentido pero esta llevado de manera torpe y es demasiado predecible. Casi me olvido de GOBLIN CHILDE TAM TAM TAM,un concepto tan estúpido que me sorprende haya llegado a ver la luz. A pesar de esto me entretuve mucho leyendo esto,y el último issue logró encariñarme con Dan Slott.
Lo único rescatable acá es que al fin alguien se encargó del tarado de Urich,nos quedamos sin un héroe que seguramente reviva así que me da igual y el beef que le tiró Liz Allan a Industrias Parker.
<<<<>>>>ENGLISH
I skipped two volumes because I was getting bored of Worldwide and I read this one because it is the end, plus I read that it is good.
Before we talk about this latest volume, let's talk about Dan Slott's in Spider-Man. I didn't enjoy much of his run,but it's Spidey stage I read the most (I'll make amends for this). I think that Slott is not a bad writer, in fact,he had the monumental task of lifting the character after the DISASTER that is One More Day,writing from there until these last volumes about the character. Personally,I enjoyed A New Day and several of his ideas such as Superior,Anti-Venom,Spider Island,Spider-Verse (one of my favorite events) and this Red Goblin. I also like how he is able to plant seeds of what will happen long before the events,eg: Harry's son being jealous (EDDDDDGYYY) the tracker's killer and those weird ass goblins. And I also want to emphasize that I enjoyed various parts of his run: in addition to A New Day,Big Time drove me crazy,I love Life and Death Matters and Superior Spider-Man.
Now,I think that what Slott is incapable of doing is hooking or exciting me bout his stories. I appreciate his effort to add new characters to this world but he never really made me care or intrigue me about them. A lot of his stages are pretty boring and,for some reason he can't get me emotional on key moments. I think it's his prose's fault rather than lazy writing,he may be good at planning events and ideas,but he's not good at developing the actual action.
After this prelude,about the actual volume:
What things changed after the volume jump i made? Not much. Peter is back again at being poor, Flash Thompson being Anti-Venom Agent again (Anti is the new thing) and Norman Osborn,who's lost his goblin serum powers,managed to get Carnage whose ended up in a base that Norman heisted (no idea what he was doing there). This new Red Goblin gets his memory back about of the Spider-Man's identity and decides to finish him off.
It is a pity that as always, this interesting idea stays as that,an idea,the story unfolds uneventfully, Peter spends most of the time chasing around and (even in black) losing against an Osborn without any weaknesses due to the merger,except that of looking stupid with that weird ass tail and ugly design,I would have gone for something like the cover,not that ugly thing. Speaking of weaknesses, he loses because of his own ego. Do I like that descent? Nah,it makes a bit of sense but it's awkwardly run and too predictable. I almost forgot about GOBLIN CHILDE DUM DUM DUM, a concept so stupid that I am surprised it has even seen the light of day. Despite this, I had a lot of fun reading this, and the last issue made me feel attached to Dan Slott.
The only memorable thing here is that finally someone took care of Urich's moronic ass,that we were left without a hero who will surely revive so I don't care and the that Liz Allan beefed the shit outta Parker Industries.
<<<<>>>>SPANISH
Saltee dos volumenes porque me estaba aburriendo de Worldwide y entré en este porque es el final,además leí que es bueno.
Antes de hablar de este último volumen,hablemos de Dan Slott en Spider-Man. Gran parte de su etapa no la disfruté,pero es la etapa del héroe que más leí (ya voy a enmendar esto). Creo que Slott no es un mal escritor,es más,tuvo la monumental tarea de levantar al personaje después de el DESASTRE que es Un Día Más,escribiendo desde ahí hasta estos últimos volúmenes al personaje. En lo personal disfruté de Un Nuevo Día y de varias de sus ideas como Superior,Anti-Venom,Isla araña,Spider-Verse (uno de mis eventos favoritos) y este Red Goblin. También me gusta cómo es capáz de plantar desde mucho tiempo previo a los eventos semillas de lo que pasará,por ej: el hijo de Harry estando celoso (EDDDDDGYYY) el asesino de los rastreadores y esos goblins raros. Y quiero destacar que disfruté de varias partes de su etapa: además de Un Nuevo Día,Gran momento me enloquece,me encanta Asuntos de vida y muerte y Superior Spider-Man.
Ahora,creo que lo que Slott es incapaz de hacer es engancharme o tensionarme en sus historias. Aprecio su esfuerzo de agregar nuevos personajes a este mundo pero nunca llega a interesarme o preocuparme por ellos. Muchas de sus etapas son bastante aburridas y Dan,por alguna razón no logra emocionarme en escenas importantes y creo que es culpa de su prosa,puede que sea bueno planeando eventos e ideas,pero no le sale bien desarrollar la acción en sí.
Terminado esto,vamos a este volumen:
¿Qué cosas cambiaron despues de el salto? No mucho. Peter es pobre de vuelta,Flash Thompson siendo nuevamente Agente Anti-Venom (lo de Anti es nuevo) y Norman Osborn,el cuál perdió su suero de duende consigue hacerse con Carnage el cuál terminó en una base que Norman robó (ni idea que hacía ahí). Este nuevo Red Goblin recupera su memoria acerca de la identidad de Spider-Man y se decide a terminar con él.
Es una lástima que cómo siempre,esta idea interesante se quede ahí,la historia se desarrolla sin demasiados desafíos,Peter se la pasa corriendo de acá para allá (incluso de negro) perdiendo contra un Osborn sin debilidades debido a la fusión,excepto la de verse estupidísimo con esa cola rara y diseño feo,yo hubiera optado por algo cómo la portada,no esa cosa fea. Hablando de debilidades,pierde por su propio ego ¿Me gusta ese descenlace? Nah,tiene un poco de sentido pero esta llevado de manera torpe y es demasiado predecible. Casi me olvido de GOBLIN CHILDE TAM TAM TAM,un concepto tan estúpido que me sorprende haya llegado a ver la luz. A pesar de esto me entretuve mucho leyendo esto,y el último issue logró encariñarme con Dan Slott.
Lo único rescatable acá es que al fin alguien se encargó del tarado de Urich,nos quedamos sin un héroe que seguramente reviva así que me da igual y el beef que le tiró Liz Allan a Industrias Parker.
<<<<>>>>ENGLISH
I skipped two volumes because I was getting bored of Worldwide and I read this one because it is the end, plus I read that it is good.
Before we talk about this latest volume, let's talk about Dan Slott's in Spider-Man. I didn't enjoy much of his run,but it's Spidey stage I read the most (I'll make amends for this). I think that Slott is not a bad writer, in fact,he had the monumental task of lifting the character after the DISASTER that is One More Day,writing from there until these last volumes about the character. Personally,I enjoyed A New Day and several of his ideas such as Superior,Anti-Venom,Spider Island,Spider-Verse (one of my favorite events) and this Red Goblin. I also like how he is able to plant seeds of what will happen long before the events,eg: Harry's son being jealous (EDDDDDGYYY) the tracker's killer and those weird ass goblins. And I also want to emphasize that I enjoyed various parts of his run: in addition to A New Day,Big Time drove me crazy,I love Life and Death Matters and Superior Spider-Man.
Now,I think that what Slott is incapable of doing is hooking or exciting me bout his stories. I appreciate his effort to add new characters to this world but he never really made me care or intrigue me about them. A lot of his stages are pretty boring and,for some reason he can't get me emotional on key moments. I think it's his prose's fault rather than lazy writing,he may be good at planning events and ideas,but he's not good at developing the actual action.
After this prelude,about the actual volume:
What things changed after the volume jump i made? Not much. Peter is back again at being poor, Flash Thompson being Anti-Venom Agent again (Anti is the new thing) and Norman Osborn,who's lost his goblin serum powers,managed to get Carnage whose ended up in a base that Norman heisted (no idea what he was doing there). This new Red Goblin gets his memory back about of the Spider-Man's identity and decides to finish him off.
It is a pity that as always, this interesting idea stays as that,an idea,the story unfolds uneventfully, Peter spends most of the time chasing around and (even in black) losing against an Osborn without any weaknesses due to the merger,except that of looking stupid with that weird ass tail and ugly design,I would have gone for something like the cover,not that ugly thing. Speaking of weaknesses, he loses because of his own ego. Do I like that descent? Nah,it makes a bit of sense but it's awkwardly run and too predictable. I almost forgot about GOBLIN CHILDE DUM DUM DUM, a concept so stupid that I am surprised it has even seen the light of day. Despite this, I had a lot of fun reading this, and the last issue made me feel attached to Dan Slott.
The only memorable thing here is that finally someone took care of Urich's moronic ass,that we were left without a hero who will surely revive so I don't care and the that Liz Allan beefed the shit outta Parker Industries.
August 14, 2020
En realidad eran tres estrellas, pero el número #801, aunque un poco cursi, para mí dio en el clavo perfectamente y nos susurra un poco acerca, de manera muy sutil, de la lucha interna que tiene Spidey y que al salvar un "tío", salva a todos, incluso al suyo.
En sí el final del run de Slott es un poco turbulento. Entiendo la necesidad de qué Slott finalice sus arcos grandes con Spidey vs. Goblin, pero se me hizo muy repetitivo más al compararlo con el final de Superior. De nuevo Spidey gana con estrategias sacadas de la manga y tiene varios momentos muy anti climáticos como por ejemplo la maniobra de Flash con los rehenes, eso rompió el flujo de la historia para mí.
La historia se siente épica y tensa al principio, cuando Norman le dice a Spidey que no matara a sus seres queridos si renuncia, se siente muy interesante y más porque Spidey envía a sus amigos a pelear por él. Lamentablemente eso dura un número y de ahí tenemos las mismas andadas de Spiderman contra Norman de siempre.
La idea de fusionar a Norman con el simbionte de Carnage se me hizo interesante pero creo que al final no la explotaron tanto. Debió de haber habido más matanza, más violencia, y eso sólo pasa al final.
Como este tomo marca el final de la era (poco más de diez años) de Slott escribiendo al lanza redes, creo que vale la pena dar un comentario sobre el run de este autor. Es bueno. Aún con sus altas y sus bajas, Slott se arriesgó a llevar a Peter a terrenos en los que no lo habíamos visto, pero siempre cuidando la esencia del personaje. Aún siendo el CEO de Parker Industries, veíamos el sentido de responsabilidad fuertemente arraigado; aún siendo dominado por la mente de Dr. Ock, los recuerdos de Peter lo hacían querer ser un héroe y encontrar su propia responsabilidad. En fin, creo que hubo arcos muy buenos que pasarán a ser clásicos del personaje.
Gracias por todo Slott.
En sí el final del run de Slott es un poco turbulento. Entiendo la necesidad de qué Slott finalice sus arcos grandes con Spidey vs. Goblin, pero se me hizo muy repetitivo más al compararlo con el final de Superior. De nuevo Spidey gana con estrategias sacadas de la manga y tiene varios momentos muy anti climáticos como por ejemplo la maniobra de Flash con los rehenes, eso rompió el flujo de la historia para mí.
La historia se siente épica y tensa al principio, cuando Norman le dice a Spidey que no matara a sus seres queridos si renuncia, se siente muy interesante y más porque Spidey envía a sus amigos a pelear por él. Lamentablemente eso dura un número y de ahí tenemos las mismas andadas de Spiderman contra Norman de siempre.
La idea de fusionar a Norman con el simbionte de Carnage se me hizo interesante pero creo que al final no la explotaron tanto. Debió de haber habido más matanza, más violencia, y eso sólo pasa al final.
Como este tomo marca el final de la era (poco más de diez años) de Slott escribiendo al lanza redes, creo que vale la pena dar un comentario sobre el run de este autor. Es bueno. Aún con sus altas y sus bajas, Slott se arriesgó a llevar a Peter a terrenos en los que no lo habíamos visto, pero siempre cuidando la esencia del personaje. Aún siendo el CEO de Parker Industries, veíamos el sentido de responsabilidad fuertemente arraigado; aún siendo dominado por la mente de Dr. Ock, los recuerdos de Peter lo hacían querer ser un héroe y encontrar su propia responsabilidad. En fin, creo que hubo arcos muy buenos que pasarán a ser clásicos del personaje.
Gracias por todo Slott.
December 3, 2024
Bardziej 3.5/5, niemniej nie można zabrać autorowi, że dwoił się i troił, aby to jakoś dobrze domknąć. I pod względem akcji wyszło mu to naprawdę dobrze, tylko czemuż znów piłuje tegoż Normana Osborna. Ulepszonego, ale to zawsze Goblin, nawet w innym kolorze.
Okładka nie ukryje tego, że w ręce jednego z "firmowych" wrogów trafił symbiont. I to nie byle jaki. Sam Carnage, więc można oczekiwać istnej jatki. Mała jest, ale to nadal tytuł dla nastolatków, więc złol tylko mruga ze stronic i grozi, że coś zrobi. A na cel bierze samego Spider-mana, ponownie zresztą odkrywając jego tajną tożsamość (początkujący czytelnik na pewno zdziwi się kto tu ma taką wiedzę...).
Aby jednak najboleśniej dopiec Pajęczakowi to bierze na cel wiele bliskich mu osób i nie oszczędza nawet własnej rodziny, która się od niego odcięła, próbując normalnie żyć. Na szczęście Peter może liczyć na wsparcie przyjaciół, choć w starciu z ulepszonym Goblinem pomoc większości może okazać się niewystarczająca. Trzeba będzie sięgnąć po ostateczności...
Slott ma tu swoje chwile, których nie zdradzę, bo sprawiają prawdziwą przyjemność. Szkoda tylko, że poza jedynym momentem, kiedy dochodzi do tragedii, całość jest mocno zachowawcza. Niemniej i tak chylę przed nim czoła, bo jego praca rozpoczęła się nad serią dziesięć lat wstecz, gdzieś przy numerze 550, a dotrwał z przerwami do numerka osiemsetnego.
Budzi podziw nawet jeżeli serię Worldwide nie zapamiętam szczególne ciepło, by była zwyczajnie przeciętna, nie oferując nic poza kilkoma dobrymi pomysłami i toną spulchniaczy-wypełniaczy, w dodatku takimi, które lubiły wtórnie czerpać z przepastnej historii Parkera.
Ale otrzyjcie łezki. Umarł król, niech żyje król. W szafeczce czeka na mnie ponad dziesięć tomów kontynuacji spod pióra Nicka Spencera. Oby było lepiej.
Okładka nie ukryje tego, że w ręce jednego z "firmowych" wrogów trafił symbiont. I to nie byle jaki. Sam Carnage, więc można oczekiwać istnej jatki. Mała jest, ale to nadal tytuł dla nastolatków, więc złol tylko mruga ze stronic i grozi, że coś zrobi. A na cel bierze samego Spider-mana, ponownie zresztą odkrywając jego tajną tożsamość (początkujący czytelnik na pewno zdziwi się kto tu ma taką wiedzę...).
Aby jednak najboleśniej dopiec Pajęczakowi to bierze na cel wiele bliskich mu osób i nie oszczędza nawet własnej rodziny, która się od niego odcięła, próbując normalnie żyć. Na szczęście Peter może liczyć na wsparcie przyjaciół, choć w starciu z ulepszonym Goblinem pomoc większości może okazać się niewystarczająca. Trzeba będzie sięgnąć po ostateczności...
Slott ma tu swoje chwile, których nie zdradzę, bo sprawiają prawdziwą przyjemność. Szkoda tylko, że poza jedynym momentem, kiedy dochodzi do tragedii, całość jest mocno zachowawcza. Niemniej i tak chylę przed nim czoła, bo jego praca rozpoczęła się nad serią dziesięć lat wstecz, gdzieś przy numerze 550, a dotrwał z przerwami do numerka osiemsetnego.
Budzi podziw nawet jeżeli serię Worldwide nie zapamiętam szczególne ciepło, by była zwyczajnie przeciętna, nie oferując nic poza kilkoma dobrymi pomysłami i toną spulchniaczy-wypełniaczy, w dodatku takimi, które lubiły wtórnie czerpać z przepastnej historii Parkera.
Ale otrzyjcie łezki. Umarł król, niech żyje król. W szafeczce czeka na mnie ponad dziesięć tomów kontynuacji spod pióra Nicka Spencera. Oby było lepiej.
January 20, 2019
Dan Slott brings his lengthy Spider-Man epic to its conclusion with the final volume of the Worldwide saga. Determined to finally squash the bug that has foiled him at every turn, Norman Osborn has upped the ante. He's kidnapped J. Jonah Jameson to uncover Spidey's secret, murdered the latest Hobgoblin Phil Urich, and now added the Carnage symbiote to his twisted arsenal. Forced into a corner by this dealy new Red Goblin incarnation, Spider-Man finds himself teaming with friends and former foes alike to keep his loved ones safe. The volume signs off with a simple reminder of how much Spider-Man can influence the people around him with everyday acts of heroism. Dan Slott brings everything together for this final blowout tale. His Norman Osborn is the right mix of deadly and crazy, enhanced with the violent tendencies of Carnage to finally put Osborn in a class by himself. The return of Flash Thompson brings both smiles and tears as Slott brings his character arc to a worthy conclusion; the return of the symbiote - albeit briefly - to Peter just adds that extra dimension of nostalgia and excellence. The final battle does leave a bit to be desired, but it does fit with the egocentric villain bring about his own failure. Stuart Immonen does a great job of capturing the insanity of a Red Goblin, while still filling panels with eclectic details across the hectic volume. Amazing Spider-Man: Worldwide brings the wall-crawler back home to his friendly neighborhood - exactly where he operates best.
April 16, 2024
Dan Slott's 10 year run on ASM ends on a strong note. Norman joins with the Carnage symbiote to form the ridiculous (and in my view, poorly designed) Red Goblin. Still, it led to some unhinged chaos and death, including on significant (certain to be short lived) death of a character who has recently come back into the fray. There's strong focus on the important members of his closest friends and allies and he has some lovely moments with Flash near the end. Seeing Spidey Venom out was admittedly cool. Little Normie...the least said, the better.
The final episode felt a little weak, every writer seems to try something similar and this time it just had little impact but I appreciate the sentiment.
In total, I've really enjoyed Slott's run even if we are ending much where we started (the sad nature of current comic book writing - new writer, new status quo, eventually reset and start again). I think for me, the JMS run is still my favourite (he was my 'first' Spider-Man writer) but Slott has navigated a lot of peaks and really dug into Pete, challenged us with the excellent Superior Spider-Man and had a lot of fun. It hasn't all worked and I think ending prior to Worldwide may have been better but in all it's been a blast.
I've decided to keep reading through Nick Spencer's run as I've generally heard good things but before I get to that, I'm really keen to read Zdarsky's run on Spectacular. Onward, forever.
The final episode felt a little weak, every writer seems to try something similar and this time it just had little impact but I appreciate the sentiment.
In total, I've really enjoyed Slott's run even if we are ending much where we started (the sad nature of current comic book writing - new writer, new status quo, eventually reset and start again). I think for me, the JMS run is still my favourite (he was my 'first' Spider-Man writer) but Slott has navigated a lot of peaks and really dug into Pete, challenged us with the excellent Superior Spider-Man and had a lot of fun. It hasn't all worked and I think ending prior to Worldwide may have been better but in all it's been a blast.
I've decided to keep reading through Nick Spencer's run as I've generally heard good things but before I get to that, I'm really keen to read Zdarsky's run on Spectacular. Onward, forever.
January 4, 2019
And so Dan Slott's truly prolific run with Spider-Man ends in the same fashion as much of his previous work, with a "meh". I've always found his Spidey stuff to be fine, not often great, but usually not outright bad either. That holds with this final volume. It's a perfectly serviceable Spider-Man story, but it's nothing I'll be interested in revisiting.
The Red Goblin arc brings to a conclusion a lot of things that have been building throughout Slott's work, and it's a pretty satisfying ending as far as that goes. I don't think that it ended with the emotional weight that Slott intended it to, but maybe that's different for those who have been more invested.
Having Stuart Immonen on art helps, as he's fantastic as always. I also must say that I found the final issue (with art from Marcos Martin) genuinely touching and it was a good endcap for Slott's run. Kudos to an end to an incredibly long, if not incredibly profound, run on one of comics' biggest characters.
The Red Goblin arc brings to a conclusion a lot of things that have been building throughout Slott's work, and it's a pretty satisfying ending as far as that goes. I don't think that it ended with the emotional weight that Slott intended it to, but maybe that's different for those who have been more invested.
Having Stuart Immonen on art helps, as he's fantastic as always. I also must say that I found the final issue (with art from Marcos Martin) genuinely touching and it was a good endcap for Slott's run. Kudos to an end to an incredibly long, if not incredibly profound, run on one of comics' biggest characters.
June 28, 2018
One of the best finales to a run that I've ever read in my life as a superhero comics nerd. In a monthly book like this it's difficult to weave multiple subplots together, but characters like Doctor Octopus and Flash Thompson who have risen in prominence during Dan Slott's run twine well into the latest Norman Osborn disaster. The original Green Goblin is back, and has bonded with the Carnage symbiote, creating a monster that is every sort of nightmare Peter Parker has ever experienced. His strikes are unnerving, finding ways around symbiote rules, and knowing every vulnerable spot in Peter's life. It's physical, frenetic, and culminates in a battle that deserves to go down as one of Spidey's iconic fights.
In all of it, J. Jonah Jameson manages to get the best character development. You don't see that every day.
In all of it, J. Jonah Jameson manages to get the best character development. You don't see that every day.
October 20, 2022
I’d never got round to finishing Slotts run on Spider-Man; I think I loved it so much I just didn’t want it to end. But now that he’s coming back to write for my favourite hero I finally pulled the pin and read Go Down Swinging.
Just wow.
A perfect encapsulation of who Peter Parker is and why he fights till his very last, with the highest feeling stakes I’ve ever read in a Spider-Man comic and some tremendous character moments.
Just about everyone I’ve loved in Slotts run gets a small chance to shine, and it was wonderful saying so long to these takes on so many wonderful characters.
The art is stunning too, with more names than I can list working on making issue 800 looks perfect from cover to cover.
I’m glad I finally finished this run, and I can’t wait to jump back in soon.
Just wow.
A perfect encapsulation of who Peter Parker is and why he fights till his very last, with the highest feeling stakes I’ve ever read in a Spider-Man comic and some tremendous character moments.
Just about everyone I’ve loved in Slotts run gets a small chance to shine, and it was wonderful saying so long to these takes on so many wonderful characters.
The art is stunning too, with more names than I can list working on making issue 800 looks perfect from cover to cover.
I’m glad I finally finished this run, and I can’t wait to jump back in soon.
March 26, 2019
Finally took the time to read this last volume of the Dan Slott run on Amazing Spider-Man and it wasn't as crazy as I thought it would be given the premise of Norman Osborne with the Carnage symbiote. But the resulting story had some great beats to it and managed to do what Slott has always done best - find new ways to celebrate Spider-Man's history while still giving things a fresh, refreshing spin. And this book really hits at the core of what makes Spider-Man who he is - the need to try to save everyone, especially those closest to him.
January 10, 2019
Big. Fairly fun. I was put off a little by Peter a little not acting like Peter, I thought . In particular . Excellent work from the supporting characters, though, especially Flash Thompson and Norman Osborne.
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