The Fool and the Heretic: How Two Scientists Moved beyond Labels to a Christian Dialogue about Creation and Evolution

by Todd Charles Wood, Darrel R. Falk, Rob Barrett (Foreword)

The Fool and the Heretic is a deeply personal story told by two respected scientists who hold opposing views on the topic of origins, share a common faith in Jesus Christ, and began a sometimes-painful journey to explore how they can remain in Christian fellowship when each thinks the other is harming the church. To some in the church, anyone who accepts the theory of evolution has rejected biblical teaching and is therefore thought of as a heretic. To many outside the church as well as a growing number of evangelicals, anyone who accepts the view that God created the earth in six days a few thousand years ago must be poorly educated and ignorant--a fool. Todd Wood and Darrel Falk know what it's like to be thought of, respectively, as a fool and a heretic. This book shares their pain in wearing those labels, but more important, provides a model for how faithful Christians can hold opposing views on deeply divisive issues yet grow deeper in their relationship to each other and to God.

Genres: Science, Theology, Religion, Christian, Nonfiction, Christianity, Evolution

191 pages, Kindle Edition

Published February 5, 2019

Reviews

[Jeremy Gardiner · Rating 5 out of 5]

I loved this book so much. It's the story of two Christian scientists. Both have PhD's in biology but vehemently disagree on the mechanism that God used to create this world and everything in it. Falk is the past President of Biologos and believes in Theistic Evolution. Wood is a Young Earth Creationist.

This book chronicles their meetings together as they learn to dialogue on important topic while still being one in Christ (John 17:21). They each have a chapter explaining why the other person is wrong (and why it matters), they talk about the evidence for each position (and critique the other view), but this is not really a debate book. It is a story of their relationship with a focus on how to dialogue honestly and lovingly as Christians.

What I loved was that this book didn't sugar coat the issues. Each person believes that each others view hurts the gospel and leads people away from faith. I love such honesty where convictions are strong, yet there is a unity because of their shared faith that overshadows their views.

Personally, I hate theistic evolutionism, believing it is an adapting of the Naturalistic worldview to Christianity. Theistic evolutionists say "focus on the message" (of the gospel) not the details (a refrain Falk numerous times in the book). But if I can't trust the details, I don't see why I'd trust the message. Having said that, I have a love for theistic evolutionists. I have had good Christian fellowship with them and I look up to and benefit from their teaching in other areas (like Tim Keller and Bruce Waltke).

North American culture has forgotten how to disagree. One group looks at everything tribalistically. If you hold the opposite view from them, you must hate them. The other group won't discuss anything contentious and has a false sense of unity where nothing important is ever discussed. This book bridges that gap in approach, and is a great apologetic for the faith as we get to witness ideological enemies (their words) showcase: "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another" (John 13:35).

[Mike Bright · Rating 5 out of 5]

This book is the result of ongoing meetings between a Christian evolutionist and a creationists. Both are Ph.D.'s in biological fields; both are published scientists. The Colossian Forum is a group that (among other things) fosters real conversations on hard issues. Dr. Wood (the creationist) and Dr. Falk (the evolutionist) were reluctant to take on this challenge. They both feel the other is wrong and in a dangerous way. However, they both accept each other as brothers in Christ and feel a commitment to treat the other with respect and keep the debate civil. This type of encounter is one we all long for, but very rarely see. Kudos to the Colossian Forum for instigating and supporting this.

The book is not overly technical, but the discussions and disagreements are real and deep. Both men expressed pain at various points. They identified and focused on key issues, without being bogged down in irrelevant details. Both clearly recognized that the way one interprets Scripture is critical to this debate.

I appreciate that Dr. Wood understands that a lot of "creation science" is not science. He also understands the evidence for evolution is substantial. His desire is to find holes, then collect data and run experiments to support young earth creation. He knows that based on current knowledge, evolution wins. However, he also knows that science itself is constantly evolving, so current theories will be revised and perhaps discarded when we know more.

This was a delight to read.

[Josiah Richardson · Rating 2 out of 5]

The theory behind this book is that if you would call yourself a young earth creationist, then you likely have been called a fool at some point in your life for holding to that view. And if you hold to really any other view than young earth creationist (as a professing Christian), then you have likely been labeled as a heretic.

So this book brings a fool and a heretic together to discuss their views and where they differentiate themselves from one another. This sounds like a good idea at first, but I was actually really disappointed with the result. While I was expecting some really good dialogue between these two men, it came across as one of those Hallmark movies where a hillbilly visits the big city and meets a city boy and while they come from very different backgrounds, they come to find out that they aren’t so different after all and can’t we all just get along?

Regardless of which side you may find yourself on this issue, outside of the idea that we ought not to call the other side fools or heretics, there is no real theme here in this book and it almost felt like I was just reading a Facebook discussion.

[Zac Reeves · Rating 2 out of 5]

This is a book about dialogue between two Christians, one is a six-day creationist (the fool) and the other holds to theistic evolution (the heretic). This book was underwhelming for a few reasons. First, there’s a large spectrum between six-day creation and theistic evolution that is not represented in this book. Second, they never really get into the issues. This is more of a book about two Christians disagreeing (regardless of the topic) than about creation vs. evolution. Finally, I felt like the interpretive issues were largely boiled down to the common trope of “literal vs. poetic.” Some positives of the book: it was easy to read, it kept my attention, and both Wood and Falk are well trained scientists.

I respect Wood’s credentials (perhaps one of the only six-day creationists with a Ph.D in Biochemistry) and his honesty throughout the book. I wish this book had spent more time talking about the actual issues at hand rather than discussing the discussions or dancing around the issues.

[Mickey Lax · Rating 4 out of 5]

This book is challenging. I am a YEC but one who has struggled with my beliefs before. I have seen that evolution is a compelling theory, and there’s even some truth to it, in my estimation. I can see it’s coherence and why so many believe in it. I, like Todd Wood in this book, see all of this, and yet hold to YEC. Why? Because of my reading of scripture. This book is challenging because it sees two believers on polar opposite sides of the origins debate dialogue with each other and recount their experiences of being together. They show an example of how two people can be in unity even though they are far apart on the origins issue. I want to model this type of love in my own life. It’s certainly risky, but from what it sounds like from their story, worth it. I commend this book to all who want to see an example of love in the midst of sharp disagreement.

[Abby Fulmer · Rating 5 out of 5]

Phenomenal. A story of two scientists - both extremely intelligent - who intensely disagree on how the world came into being. Todd, the young-earth creationist & Darrell, the evolutionary creationist have a dialogue throughout the book on why they believe what they believe..and why the other is wrong. But the way in which they go about it is so Christ-like and extremely unheard of in today’s climate. Ultimately, they conclude that their issues on origins are secondary compared to their unity in Christ- because at the end of it all, they know that they will be kneeling arm in arm at the foot of the cross.

[Nazatoru · Rating 3 out of 5]

A simple read about two Christians with varying standpoints talking about creation & evolution. Todd was very adamant on the Bible being literal and Darell wasn’t. The way they talked about each other made me think I was reading yaoi for a second.

[KJ · Rating 4 out of 5]

“If these passages, which seem so clear (referencing the great flood, genesis, exodus, etc…) don’t really mean what they say, how in the world can we know that any part of the Bible means what it says?” This was coming from the young earth creationist in the first portion of the book. For a moment, I thought I was being trolled. I came into this book as a non-religious person, and initially thought the book to be a conversation between god-believing and atheist scientists. I did keep an open mind, but found myself needing to pause the book a bit here and there to take a break. I’ve read and studied plenty about mysticism in various religions and different parts of the world, but many of them separate their mystic beliefs from reality, often discussing mysticism as a different, but personal realm, and used as a way to explain the unknowable. What I wasn’t prepared for in this book was the absolute belief in miracles, Adam and Eve, creationism, etc…being discussed as if it were present in every day life, and based firmly in reality. It’s discussed that even among biologists, belief in a god that actually affects our world is quite low, so to have two Christian scientists debate which fringe belief should be used going forward, in Christian universities, schools, and the church, was a tad bizarre for my non-religious self. That’s not to say the book isn’t an honest exchange.

I do think, however, that a fundamentalist and literal view of the Bible is a bit (a lot, let me be honest) silly, but also that the non-YEC was trying to convince us (himself?) that he was still a Good Christian™, despite thinking that the Bible shouldn’t be taken literally. On multiple occasions, he emphasizes how similar their views are, and that he, too, believes in the truth of the Bible, and on and on. Large portions of his opening statements in each section are about how the two agree (they don’t, clearly), that he accepts the Bible, and how the doubts he had in scripture when he was younger and his turning away from faith as an adult were “innocent.” This becomes a bit of a drag, as the debate is halted until he’s finished.


The mountains of evidence from the scientific community supporting the current view of evolution and the Earth as being billions of year old is mentioned in nearly every chapter, but we’re meant to agree with the YEC, at least in his portions of the debate, that the truth just hasn’t been revealed yet. Honestly, this take on creationism is surprisingly refreshing. I didn’t even realize this was a view held by scholars of his ilk. Instead of trying to bend science to his will (god’s will?), he takes the position that more research should be done in order to find the “truth,” which he admits hasn’t gotten him anywhere just yet. Now, this really ins’t how the scientific method usually works. Typically, if a model isn’t falsifiable, then the hypothesis is considered untestable. I think including a divine being, something outside the realm of being observable to people, in a hypothetical model of the origin of the universe makes the YEC science bunk from the jump. It’s like thinking giant purple unicorns exist, but because there isn’t any scientific evidence of such a creature, you keep studying and researching and waiting for some to show up. Is this better than someone who bends science or cherry picks some obscure texts to try to prove they do exist? I don’t know.

[Leticia · Rating 3 out of 5]

"Jesus could have prayed for correct teaching and doctrine, which are important. Jesus could have prayed that false doctrine would be rooted out of the church, which is also important. Instead, Jesus prayed that we would stick together." - Todd Charles Wood

In John 17:9-11, Jesus prays,
"I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one."

I am so thankful that my sister and brother-in-law gifted me this book. As a Biology major, I'm required to take a semester of evolution, which I did last year, and it was a very challenging class. I found myself going back to the Bible to try to answer questions whose answers have not been revealed to us in scripture nor in science. At the end of the day, I agree with Todd that the Bible is irrefutably the objective truth.

And John 17:17 says,
"Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth."

[Phillip Matthew · Rating 2 out of 5]

3/10 Messaging, 3/10 depth on the issue 7/10 usefulness in exploring a couple perspectives.
Took one day-session in the library to read while taking notes, not a candidate for my shelf but worth the time.

This book mainly consists of two people just giving their life story and sharing their opinions. There's practically no actual "dialogue", but rather it's a Christian geneticist and a Christian young-earth biochemist swapping chapters to write about themselves, their beliefs, and how they feel about the other guy.

This book is essentially arranged by the Colossian Forum, which is what you get when you try to turn Jesus quotes into a tax-exempt conflict resolution & teambuilding firm.

Both are certainly believers of their faith, but despite their constant sense that the holy spirit must be involved in their meeting and attempts to reconcile, by the end of the book they still consider eachother enemies making mean blog posts about eachother and have made practically no progress towards solving the basic roots of their disagreement.
Todd is still a biblical literalist who rejects the idea that Genesis is a metaphor, pursuing a very explicitly stated god-of-the-gaps despite being fully aware that his fellow creationists are prone to supplementing it with folklore when they try and fail to find it.
Darrell still believes in theistic evolution without presenting much compelling evidence for his faith other than surface level fine-tuning arguments and his existentially desperate desire for community as a father.

There's many things Todd and Darrel have in common. One of these things, which they bond over, is a common fear of losing members of the faith. Todd fears that allowing for poetic reinterpretation of some parts of the bible would cause a slippery slope that untangles the entire faith. Darrel fears that the stringent and false boundaries of biblical literalism push out Christians interested in the sciences and keeps them away. The book is chock-full of consequential arguments like this, not just in their fears, but also as motivation in their life stories.

Practically nowhere in the book is it ever questioned whether Christianity might be the very thing separating these two curious, passionate, and caring people. There's actually nothing stopping them from becoming friends and allies if they weren't beholden to maintaining the popularity of the religion that is supposed to unify them, especially as they come to wildly different conclusions in how to maintain it.

The narrative that the Colossian forum endorses here is one that very specifically tries to appeal to the social aspect of Christianity in looking at their conflict. Perhaps it's a useful case study for things that commonly occur for their company when working with confused, cognitively dissonant Christians trying to make sense of their faith. Perhaps the goal is to sweep up those Christians having an all-too-common crisis of faith when overwhelmed by these ideas one way or the other by simply making it about Jesus rather than the factual matter at hand.

This book leaves a LOT to be desired in it's lack of dialogue but is a useful glimpse into the messy creationism and evolution feelings many churches are having. Do not expect much direct dialogue, new arguments, detailed analysis, or subject matter for either view. Around page 130-145 Darrell goes over the basics of geological and genetic evidence for evolution and that's about as much as you're gonna get in that department, while Todd vaguely gestures about creationist colleagues picking at sandstone geology and not much else to actually support any scientific view of creationism.

[Lucas G. · Rating 3 out of 5]

This book was written by two people - both Christians with PhDs in biology - who couldn't be further apart on the creationism/evolution divide. Wood is a Young Earth Creationist while Falk is a Theistic Evolutionist. The book started as a series of meetings between the two authors - organized by a ministry called The Colossian Forum - in which they had the opportunity to discuss their differences. Throughout this book, they reflect on those meetings.

This book provides a unique and encouraging example of how disagreement ought to look within the Christian community. This isn't a superficial "agree to disagree" type of discussion. Both authors clearly demonstrate why they think the other is wrong. They even take it a step further and argue that the other person's ministry is harmful to the Christian church as a whole - at times referring to each other as "mortal enemies" since their ministries are directly opposed to one another. Despite this significant divide, the friendship and community that exists between Wood and Falk jumps off of every page. Wood doesn't accuse Falk of heresy for accepting evolution. Falk doesn't consider Wood an idiot for defending Young Earth Creationism (in fact, he even admits that Wood is probably more knowledgeable about evolutionary biology than he is). Instead, because they had the opportunity to disagree together with regular meeting and prayer time, they were able to see each other for who they truly were: people trying their best to follow Christ and make Him known.

While this book is an excellent example of how to disagree within the Christian church, it doesn't go into too much detail on the disagreement itself. Anyone who is expecting a debate book will surely be disappointed. Nevertheless, it is an important read - one that can be completed in the course of an afternoon or two - that will help shape how we all look at doctrinal disagreements for the better, hopefully allowing us to draw closer together despite our differences. My biggest concern is that I wanted more technical substance to the discussion, and therefore I felt like the book is lacking something important.

[Nathan Meyers · Rating 4 out of 5]

I'm grateful this book exists, and it makes for a very quick read. The book is not a deep-dive of scientific evidence for human origins (if you want that, I highly recommend Darrel Falk's Coming to Peace with Science), but is rather a primer on young-earth creationism versus theistic evolution. The book is structured as an ongoing, multi-year conversation between Todd who advocates for young-earth creationism (YEC) and Darrel who advocates for theistic evolution. The book has a very natural flow, starting with their initial meeting, allowing each to explain how they became scientists, and then briefly describing their theologies followed by their science. The book gives each scientist space to find the the theological ground that unites them, while allowing each to strongly disagree. Todd thinks Darrel is 100% wrong on origins and that this view is actively harmful to reading and understanding the Bible. Darrel believes the exact opposite, and that the science Todd is doing is not actually science. The two pull no punches and come to no scientific agreement. Yet this book offers so much hope for discussion across battle lines and sympathetic understanding of 'the other.'

I think this book is a necessary resource for students, like me, raised in Christian homes and taught YEC. While the majority of Christians believe in YEC, most of the major Christian colleges teach a form of theistic evolution. It is resources like this book (and the excellent Biologos) that will help students reconcile science with faith, appreciate the poetic beauty of the first couple chapters of Genesis, and strengthen their faith.

[Shannon · Rating 5 out of 5]

WOW. Just wow. I stumbled across this book on Audible looking for something to read on the debate between creationism and evolution. I fully expected to find either an atheist scientist’s view on evolution and why Christians are stupid to even entertain anything else, or a conservative evangelical’s take on creationism with possibly poor understanding of science and why evolution can’t be true.

This book blew me out of the water and was really exactly what I was looking for. 2 well-educated scientists, both who love God and live for Jesus, take on this divisive topic. Guided by a conflict resolution expert at The Collosian Forum, this book concisely retells their many conversations over the years with interjections from the man from The Collosian Forum who helped facilitate their discussions, yet more importantly helped them to keep their faith and Jesus as the center of the debate.

Truly an inspired book, this feels like mandatory reading for any believer who struggles with hot debates, cultural clashes, divisive discussions, or anyone who wants to know how to engage with others, especially other believers, who fundamentally disagree with them.

[Timothy Lenko · Rating 5 out of 5]

Christian dialogue... rarely does it truly work to just tack the adjective *Christian* on something other than a person, but the conversation these two had was truly Christian: (1) it was all about how mortal enemies could genuinely love one another and (2) about how their vocations could be a benefit to the body of Christ.

The two most valuable things in "The Fool and Heretic" for me were (1) seeing two men recognize Jesus in the other who they believe to be dangerous (2) finding a new kind of young earth creationist. Todd Charles Wood is an evolutionary biologist. He admits that the evidence for evolution is true science and really quite compelling. He is committed to a literalistic understanding of Genesis 1-11 which motivates him NOT to spread false rhetoric about evolution's scientific weakness but instead to ACTIVELY SEEK scientific evidence for a young earth. By the end of the book, I found myself really respecting him and wishing more of my dogged young earth brothers and sisters thought as clearly as him.

[Glen Heise · Rating 5 out of 5]

This book was not a page turner. However, real life often is not super exciting. I gave the book 5 stars because of its honesty and because of what I think is its importance. In today’s divisive atmosphere, I think one of the most important challenges for Christians is to truly love each other, even those who are on the opposite side of significantly emotional issues: immigration, sexuality, guns, origins, abortion, others. This book tells the story of two very intelligent scientists, both strongly committed Christians, who dared to talk with each other about their intense differences, rather than avoid the discomfort of confrontation. From the epilogue, titled “What have we accomplished?”: “If Christians have been given a ministry of reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:18), we couldn’t live in a more opportune moment of history in these days of polarized conflict.” I want to love for the long haul, not fight for a quick “win”. I want to learn to speak the truth in love, and to listen more than I speak.

[Nate Norberg · Rating 5 out of 5]

I thought this was an excellent book modeling disagreement between Christians. The topic of origins is a secondary issue to Christians, but it's still very important and affects both how we read the Bible and how we see the world. There is a bit of debate on the issue itself in this book, but the focus is more on how we can seek to understand one another better, move past caricatures, and build bridges within Christian communities even when important differences aren't fully resolved.

The disagreement in this book is about the topic of how God created the world, but many of the lessons would apply to many other sources of conflict for Christians. What brought the two authors together wasn't a new way of framing their disagreement. Instead, they saw how each other resembled Christ and lived out their shared faith. My hope is that this book is also a catalyst that would allow more Christians to show authentic love for one another, especially across difficult disagreements.

[J. Hord · Rating 5 out of 5]

Goes beyond the simplistic 'agree to disagree' to the heart of what it means to love your enemies.
I must admit, I was not expecting much from this book. However, once I started reading, I could not put it down. I have been involved in this very discussion myself and it seldom ends well. These two respectable scientists changed my view of this debate. The scientist with the view that opposes my own won my admiration and respect as much as the one that agrees with me. It is a lesson in learning to appreciate a brother or sister that disagrees with you on an emotionally-charged issue and still finding a way to get past the differences. Even when we disagree and cannot resolve the question, we can find a way to fulfill the command to love one another. Very well done and highly recommended for anyone seeking help in dealing with confrontation in the church or family over any volatile issue.

[Melissa · Rating 5 out of 5]

Two sides of the same coin

It is refreshing to have a balanced discussion about the origins topic. I was a young earth creation believer for most of my life, some 30 plus years, but after reading "Language of God" by Collins, as well as Faulk's book, "Coming to Leave with Science" and even a book or two from Polkinghorn, I have come to accept evolution as the process by which humans arrived in earth. I still have a lot to learn and understand about how the new to me idea "fits" with the Bible, but all things are possible through Christ. I am impressed with the open honesty of these two scientists as well as their commitment to continue walking in the love of Christ toward each other. All we Christians need to learn how to do this and be more effective in reaching others whose ideas are very different than our own.

[Bible Gateway · Rating 5 out of 5]

The topics of creation and evolution can be divisive in today’s church. How can followers of Jesus who worship together but differ in their views on these topics get along with each other? How can they demonstrate the practice of loving one another, friendship, and mutual respect despite arriving at opposite scientific conclusions?

Bible Gateway interviewed Todd Charles Wood (@CoreacadInfo) and Darrel R. Falk about their book, The Fool and the Heretic: How Two Scientists Moved Beyond Labels to a Christian Dialogue About Creation and Evolution (Zondervan, 2019). Read our interview with Todd and Darrel here- https://bit.ly/2DY7Fdh

[Jake · Rating 3 out of 5]

An easy introduction into the ongoing, ever diverse conversation of creationism and evolution. The first half of this book acts as a guide to “Christian conflict resolution”, while the second half barely grazes the the actual topics themselves (which I was disappointed about).
Although this book left me wanting, I found it a delightful, easy read that helped me feel more at ease having contrary views to most my friends. This book left me feeling proud while reading about two men who deeply disagree with one another could come together in their disagreement displaying the kind of unity Christ expects of the body.

[Rick · Rating 3 out of 5]

Interesting premise: what will happen when you take two eminently educated Christian scientists; one of whom is an evolutionist, the other a young earth creationist, and have them dialogue honestly with each other over a period of several years? Although the book touches on the arguments supporting each view, it is more about loving someone who vehemently disagree with you. Not a bad topic in today's highly polarized culture.

Although I did enjoy reading this book it did not quite capture me enough to award more than three stars.

[John Kirkwood · Rating 4 out of 5]

A wonderful book! Don’t expect a lot of back and forth on the details of the differences, there are really only a couple chapters on that directly, but a splendid example of true civility and Christian generosity. My respect grew for both men and while I side with Darrel Falk I have nothing but good things to say about Todd Wood. Would love to see more of this take place but sadly, much of this conversation is stunted by bullies and brawlers.

[Susan · Rating 5 out of 5]

I really liked this book. I am kind of on the fence about what I think about Creation, but the thing that really impressed me is how two people who are passionate and strong about their own opposing viewpoints can relate to each other in a Christian manner. I feel like God must be very proud of their behavior. The world could use a lot more human kindness as we disagree with each other. Well done!

[Jennie Webb · Rating 4 out of 5]

At first, I was very skeptical about this book, and was tempted to quit reading it. However, I persevered, and I must say that it was worth it! It hasn't changed my beliefs, but it has made me think of things in a different way. It gives an interesting perspective. It also reminds me of how important are unity and harmony in the body of Christ. Whether you agree with Young Earth Creationism or Evolution, you can learn something from this book.

[Jessica · Rating 4 out of 5]

An interesting discussion between two people, who believe very differently about the origin of humanity, earth, etc. The book was OK – I did appreciate hearing how both people (who are well respected in their fields) could come together and appreciate their similarities and differences. I’m not sure how much this book moves the needle in one direction, but it is important to see people disagree respectfully.

[Peter · Rating 4 out of 5]

Interesting short book. An easy read but documents a crucial dialogue. How to talk with someone who you call your enemy BUT you acknowledge is a Christian?! The book features chapters by each on a common topic with a moderator from the Colossian Forum providing interludes. Nothing gets resolved but rather demonstrates meaningful dialogue and understanding can build friendships.

[Caroline · Rating 3 out of 5]

this book has grown my familiarity of creationism, and understanding for potential of evolution in christianity. I was desiring more factual backup and resolution in this debate on origins, but overall understanding the sides and how they interacted with one another [as christians] made it worth the read.

[Josh Long · Rating 4 out of 5]

An interesting story of contradictory views in dialogue. I thought the structure & dynamic of the book was particularly entertaining. I wouldn't go here for any deep understanding of either 6 day creation or creation evolution - but a satisfactory introduction. Worth the read if you've never touched the subject!

[Jeremy · Rating 5 out of 5]

Astounding. As someone thoroughly convinced of an evolutionary account of human origins who grew up reading young earth creationist literature and convinced of its veracity, I found this dialogue remarkable. May we see more of this charitable engagement that allows our conversations to be grounded in love.

[Brandon H. · Rating 3 out of 5]

I enjoyed this story about two Christian scientists who differ in their views regarding Genesis, evolution, and the subject of origins. The book is more about getting along with other believers when we share different perspectives and how challenging that can be at times. I'd give it a 3.5-star rating.