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Элеазар или Источник и Куст, Жиль и Жанна
Мишель Турнье (родился в 1924 г.) — известнейший французский писатель, член Академии Гонкуров. В романе “Элеазар или Источник и Куст” он повествует об ирландском пасторе, увезшем свою семью в Америку. Сорок дней, полных лишений и мук, длилось это путешествие, подобное сорокалетним странствиям пророка Моисея, ведущего свой народ в землю Обетованную.
Светлый образ народной героини Жанны д’Арк вдохновлял многих писателей. Мишель Турнье описывает историю дружбы таких разных людей — крестьянской девушки Жанны и знатного сеньора Жиля де Ре, их ратных подвигов и ужасного конца.
Светлый образ народной героини Жанны д’Арк вдохновлял многих писателей. Мишель Турнье описывает историю дружбы таких разных людей — крестьянской девушки Жанны и знатного сеньора Жиля де Ре, их ратных подвигов и ужасного конца.
240 pages, Paperback
First published January 1, 1996
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Michel Tournier
185 books271 followersMichel Tournier was a French writer.
His works are highly considered and have won important awards such as the Grand Prix du roman de l'Académie française in 1967 for Vendredi ou les limbes du Pacifique. and the Prix Goncourt for Le Roi des aulnes in 1970. His works dwell on the fantastic, his inspirations including traditional German culture, Catholicism, and the philosophies of Gaston Bachelard. He lived in Choisel and was a member of the Académie Goncourt. His autobiography has been translated and published as The Wind Spirit (Beacon Press, 1988).
His works are highly considered and have won important awards such as the Grand Prix du roman de l'Académie française in 1967 for Vendredi ou les limbes du Pacifique. and the Prix Goncourt for Le Roi des aulnes in 1970. His works dwell on the fantastic, his inspirations including traditional German culture, Catholicism, and the philosophies of Gaston Bachelard. He lived in Choisel and was a member of the Académie Goncourt. His autobiography has been translated and published as The Wind Spirit (Beacon Press, 1988).
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March 28, 2016
Ούτε καν στα δέκα πιο πολυδιαβασμένα βιβλία που έγραψε ο Τουρνιέ δεν ανήκει το συγκεκριμένο βιβλίο που μόλις τελείωσα, και η αρκετά μέτρια βαθμολογία του στο Goodreads δείχνει ότι, μάλιστα, είναι από τα μέτρια του. Το τσίμπησα από την Πολιτεία σε αρκετά χαμηλή τιμή, έτσι, για να γνωρίσω και αυτόν τον συγγραφέα, που έχει μια κάποια φήμη. Δεν μπορώ να πω ότι ενθουσιάστηκα.
Βρισκόμαστε στα 1845 και παρακολουθούμε τον πάστορα Ελεάζαρ να εγκαταλείπει την πατρίδα του, την Ιρλανδία, μαζί με την γυναίκα και τα δυο του παιδιά, και να μεταναστεύει στην Αμερική, όπως δεκάδες χιλιάδες άλλοι συμπατριώτες του. Ξεμπαρκάρει στην Βιρτζίνια και ξεκινάει το μεγάλο ταξίδι για την Καλιφόρνια. Κάποια στιγμή βλέπει τον εαυτό ως άλλο Μωυσή, στην επικίνδυνη Άγρια Δύση, και έτσι πορεύεται μέχρι το τέλος.
Το θρησκευτικό υπόβαθρο της ιστορίας με κούρασε λιγάκι (δεν τα πάω και πολύ καλά με όλες αυτές τις αναφορές), και η ιστορία εδώ που τα λέμε δεν μου φάνηκε και κάτι το ιδιαίτερο. Το γουέστερν κομμάτι είχε μια κάποια φάση (όντας λάτρης του είδους), όμως ήταν μάλλον κάπως χλιαρό και επιπλέον δεν πείστηκα από ορισμένα γεγονότα. Όσον αφορά την γραφή, θα την χαρακτήριζα καλή και ευκολοδιάβαστη, με λίγο βάθος σε νοήματα.
Ίσως αν η ιστορία ήταν μεγαλύτερη σε μέγεθος, με περισσότερο βάθος στην πλοκή και τους χαρακτήρες, πιθανότατα τα πράγματα θα ήταν αλλιώς. Όμως, με την συγκεκριμένη έκταση που έχει το κείμενο, ο συγγραφέας δεν με έκανε να δεθώ ούτε με την ιστορία, ούτε με τους χαρακτήρες. Πάντως στο μέλλον θα διαβάσω και άλλο βιβλίο του, πιο γνωστό και καλύτερο αυτή την φορά.
Βρισκόμαστε στα 1845 και παρακολουθούμε τον πάστορα Ελεάζαρ να εγκαταλείπει την πατρίδα του, την Ιρλανδία, μαζί με την γυναίκα και τα δυο του παιδιά, και να μεταναστεύει στην Αμερική, όπως δεκάδες χιλιάδες άλλοι συμπατριώτες του. Ξεμπαρκάρει στην Βιρτζίνια και ξεκινάει το μεγάλο ταξίδι για την Καλιφόρνια. Κάποια στιγμή βλέπει τον εαυτό ως άλλο Μωυσή, στην επικίνδυνη Άγρια Δύση, και έτσι πορεύεται μέχρι το τέλος.
Το θρησκευτικό υπόβαθρο της ιστορίας με κούρασε λιγάκι (δεν τα πάω και πολύ καλά με όλες αυτές τις αναφορές), και η ιστορία εδώ που τα λέμε δεν μου φάνηκε και κάτι το ιδιαίτερο. Το γουέστερν κομμάτι είχε μια κάποια φάση (όντας λάτρης του είδους), όμως ήταν μάλλον κάπως χλιαρό και επιπλέον δεν πείστηκα από ορισμένα γεγονότα. Όσον αφορά την γραφή, θα την χαρακτήριζα καλή και ευκολοδιάβαστη, με λίγο βάθος σε νοήματα.
Ίσως αν η ιστορία ήταν μεγαλύτερη σε μέγεθος, με περισσότερο βάθος στην πλοκή και τους χαρακτήρες, πιθανότατα τα πράγματα θα ήταν αλλιώς. Όμως, με την συγκεκριμένη έκταση που έχει το κείμενο, ο συγγραφέας δεν με έκανε να δεθώ ούτε με την ιστορία, ούτε με τους χαρακτήρες. Πάντως στο μέλλον θα διαβάσω και άλλο βιβλίο του, πιο γνωστό και καλύτερο αυτή την φορά.
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February 10, 2021mustafa balel’in fransızca’dan çevirdiği ve ayrıntı yayınları tarafından basılan bu roman yaşayan bir mitin hikayesi.
çocukluğundan beri eski ve yeni ahit teolojisiyle büyümüş eleazar irlanda’dan kaliforniya’ya sürüklenen bir kutsal yolculuğun hikayesi. yoğun dinsel anlatımın birey üzerinde etkisi bir yana, anlatılan mitlerin güncel hayata olan etkisinin azımsanmayacak bir ölçüde olabileceğini görüyoruz.
musa peygamberin mısır’dan başlayan ve yahudileri kurtarmaya yönelik o büyük göçünün, çıkışın hikayesi eleazar’ın kendini musa peygamber ile özdeşleştirmesiyle adeta yeniden yaşanıyor. eleazar musa peygamberin yaşadıklarına çok benzer şeyler yaşıyor, ya da bizim kafamızdaki mitler bu ikisi arasında ilişki kuruyor. eleazar’ın bir süre sonra musa peygamberi “idol” olarak görmekten öteye geçtiğini adeta kendisini bir musa peygamber yaptığını görmemek mümkün değil. üstelik küçük kızı başta olmak üzere çevresindeki her şeye atfettiği ruhani hava da gözlerden kaçmıyor.
musa peygamberin kenan diyarına yasaklanmış olmasının eleazar’ın hayallariyle bağlantısı nedir? aslında şu dikkat çekici bir detay: gördüğümüz şeylera, yaşadıklarımıza bize anlatılan dinsel mitlerle bağlantılar kuranlar yine bizleriz. aslında eleazar’ın hikayesi ile musa peygamber hikayesi arasındaki bağlantı yine kolektif bilincin eseri olan bir dinsel farkındalık.
eleazar’ın çevresindeki her şey, tıpkı ilkel dönemdeki bireyin nesne ile yaşadığı yabancılığın örneği olabilececk şekilde adeta “fetiş” haline geliyor. eleazar’ın bastonu, arabaya saplanan ok vs. hepsi birer anlam kazanıyor ve şu gerçekle yüzleşiyoruz: kişi anlamsızlık ile karşılaştığında kendisine en yakın anlamı bulmakta zorluk çekmeyecektir. evet protestan katolik ayrımının üstüne gelen büyük irlanda kıtlığının yarattığı travma; eleazar’ın üzerinde böyle sonuçlanır. ester’in lirine sığınması gibi, eleazar’da kutsal davasına sığınır.
kitabın yan karakteri jose, adeta harun peygamber olur. eleazar’ın soyu ise ibranilerin soyu olacaktır.
usta bir yazar olan tournier’in yer yer acelece ve özensiz betimlemeleri olduğunu düşünüyorum. “böyle istedi, öyle de yaptılar” gibi hızlı geçişler dikkatimi çekiyor. bunlara rağmen kütüphanelerde bulunması gereken bir kitap.
(Mehmet Baran)
çocukluğundan beri eski ve yeni ahit teolojisiyle büyümüş eleazar irlanda’dan kaliforniya’ya sürüklenen bir kutsal yolculuğun hikayesi. yoğun dinsel anlatımın birey üzerinde etkisi bir yana, anlatılan mitlerin güncel hayata olan etkisinin azımsanmayacak bir ölçüde olabileceğini görüyoruz.
musa peygamberin mısır’dan başlayan ve yahudileri kurtarmaya yönelik o büyük göçünün, çıkışın hikayesi eleazar’ın kendini musa peygamber ile özdeşleştirmesiyle adeta yeniden yaşanıyor. eleazar musa peygamberin yaşadıklarına çok benzer şeyler yaşıyor, ya da bizim kafamızdaki mitler bu ikisi arasında ilişki kuruyor. eleazar’ın bir süre sonra musa peygamberi “idol” olarak görmekten öteye geçtiğini adeta kendisini bir musa peygamber yaptığını görmemek mümkün değil. üstelik küçük kızı başta olmak üzere çevresindeki her şeye atfettiği ruhani hava da gözlerden kaçmıyor.
musa peygamberin kenan diyarına yasaklanmış olmasının eleazar’ın hayallariyle bağlantısı nedir? aslında şu dikkat çekici bir detay: gördüğümüz şeylera, yaşadıklarımıza bize anlatılan dinsel mitlerle bağlantılar kuranlar yine bizleriz. aslında eleazar’ın hikayesi ile musa peygamber hikayesi arasındaki bağlantı yine kolektif bilincin eseri olan bir dinsel farkındalık.
eleazar’ın çevresindeki her şey, tıpkı ilkel dönemdeki bireyin nesne ile yaşadığı yabancılığın örneği olabilececk şekilde adeta “fetiş” haline geliyor. eleazar’ın bastonu, arabaya saplanan ok vs. hepsi birer anlam kazanıyor ve şu gerçekle yüzleşiyoruz: kişi anlamsızlık ile karşılaştığında kendisine en yakın anlamı bulmakta zorluk çekmeyecektir. evet protestan katolik ayrımının üstüne gelen büyük irlanda kıtlığının yarattığı travma; eleazar’ın üzerinde böyle sonuçlanır. ester’in lirine sığınması gibi, eleazar’da kutsal davasına sığınır.
kitabın yan karakteri jose, adeta harun peygamber olur. eleazar’ın soyu ise ibranilerin soyu olacaktır.
usta bir yazar olan tournier’in yer yer acelece ve özensiz betimlemeleri olduğunu düşünüyorum. “böyle istedi, öyle de yaptılar” gibi hızlı geçişler dikkatimi çekiyor. bunlara rağmen kütüphanelerde bulunması gereken bir kitap.
(Mehmet Baran)
November 29, 2012
Eleazar, jeune prêtre de la foi protestante, quitte l'Irlande et ses vertes prairies, en compagnie de sa jeune épouse pour le nouveau monde. Sa bible sous le bras, en compagnie de sa famille, le voilà qui traverse les Etats-Unis pour trouver son but dans la Californie, terre promise à ses yeux.
Le talent de Michel Tournier réside dans sa capacité à saisir dans le moins de mots possibles des sensations et des sentiments. Malgré la petite taille de cet ouvrage, voilà un livre qui se révèle riche de différents degrés de lecture. Mythe brodé sur celui de la bible, ce héros revit la destinée de Moise qui a du lui aussi choisir entre la source et le buisson, l'appel de ses semblables et l'écoute toute aveugle en la parole de Dieu. C'est donc à la fois un exil historique vers le rêve américain, mais aussi un voyage initiatique, une quête de soi (de foi?). Le départ de cette Irlande mythique vouée au déclin nécessite cependant le renoncement, le doute et la mort. Apparemment méconnu, ce livre mérite donc de trouver sa place dans nos lectures, car Tournier est un formidable conteur de l'éphémère et de l'universel.
Le talent de Michel Tournier réside dans sa capacité à saisir dans le moins de mots possibles des sensations et des sentiments. Malgré la petite taille de cet ouvrage, voilà un livre qui se révèle riche de différents degrés de lecture. Mythe brodé sur celui de la bible, ce héros revit la destinée de Moise qui a du lui aussi choisir entre la source et le buisson, l'appel de ses semblables et l'écoute toute aveugle en la parole de Dieu. C'est donc à la fois un exil historique vers le rêve américain, mais aussi un voyage initiatique, une quête de soi (de foi?). Le départ de cette Irlande mythique vouée au déclin nécessite cependant le renoncement, le doute et la mort. Apparemment méconnu, ce livre mérite donc de trouver sa place dans nos lectures, car Tournier est un formidable conteur de l'éphémère et de l'universel.
December 17, 2012
This short novella was interesting but a bit too obvious to be enjoyed. I have greatly enjoyed reading other Michel Tournier books, especially the Ogre, because he seemed to be using theory to create his stories. It was as though he was using structuralist literary theory, which was meant to be used to explain the relation of the characters and the events of the novel to the author's thoughts, as a guideline by which to construct the characters and events. In other words, he wrote to fit the pattern.
In Eleazar, Exodus to the West, he uses the Biblical story to provide the outline and provides many metaphors along the way which serve a markers. My problem with the story is that, part way through the story, the central character, Eleazar, stops and sums up all of these metaphors for the reader. There is no need to think about it. Later, he even tells us that the reformed bandit, José, is Josuah. Nothing left for me to do.
In Eleazar, Exodus to the West, he uses the Biblical story to provide the outline and provides many metaphors along the way which serve a markers. My problem with the story is that, part way through the story, the central character, Eleazar, stops and sums up all of these metaphors for the reader. There is no need to think about it. Later, he even tells us that the reformed bandit, José, is Josuah. Nothing left for me to do.
June 2, 2023
Uma obra-prima. Tournier absorveu o melhor da tradição do romance francês reformulado por Flaubert, a ver: muita imagem, muita ação, transições perfeitas entre cenas, atenção a detalhes, psicologia complexa das personagens, múltipos pontos de vista, coesão narrativa etc. Tudo isso com o adendo de uma dimensão religiosa ou metafísica que transcende o mero realismo. Lerei todos os livros que encontrar desse autor.
April 11, 2021
M.Tournier, Irlanda’li bir ailenin Amerika‘ya gocunu Musa peygamberin yahudileri Misir koleliginden kurtarmak icin baslattigi buyuk gocun paralelinde ve baglantili olarak kurgulayip, son derece buyulu bir anlatim diliyle yazmis bu kitabi. Bir solukta okunan 96 sayfalik son derece etkileyici kisacik ama guclu bir kitap...
Turkce kitap isim cevirisi „Kaynak ve Cali“ Ingilizce cevirisi „Exodus to the West“den cok daha basarili bir ceviri olmus...
Turkce kitap isim cevirisi „Kaynak ve Cali“ Ingilizce cevirisi „Exodus to the West“den cok daha basarili bir ceviri olmus...
May 5, 2018
Michel Tournier Büyülü Gerçeklikle yazıyor eserlerini. Anlatılanları önemsesem de anlatı dilini çok beğenmedim. Kutsal Kitap göndermeleri keşke okura bırakılsaydı. Oysa Tournier, sınıfta ders anlatır gibi; Bak bu Musa’nın yaşadığı bu da Eleazar’ınki” diyor. Tournier çok uzun zamandır tanıdığım bir yazar ama bu yapıtı sadece kurgusal olarak güzel.
May 31, 2022
Як ж мало слів знадобилось Турньє, щоб інтегрувати біблійський міф у шлях молодого священника разом з дружиною з Ірландії до США.
Елеазар протягом всієї книги намагається шукати паралелі свого життя з життям пророка Мойсея, а автор хоче доказати нам що розмір книги не впливає на форму та зміст.
Елеазар протягом всієї книги намагається шукати паралелі свого життя з життям пророка Мойсея, а автор хоче доказати нам що розмір книги не впливає на форму та зміст.
March 7, 2024
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July 11, 2011
"On the plains of the afterlife, the souls of the dead do not endlessly abound and multiply, as one might think. No....For the dead live on in the beyond only as long as there are living people on earth who think about them. ...In the underworld, souls radiate a life that is but the reflection of the thoughts of the living...Or more humbly, there is a woman, a shadow of an old woan tinted by a timid reflection of color: at that moment a child has placed a flower on her grave." Wonder if David Eagerman read this--of course he came up with 40 "Tales From the Afterlives."
Unconvincing in character and argument (Catholic vs. Protestant culture stereotyped, Irish & Native American culture romanticized). introduction by the translator is more illuminating than the sparse but mannered mininovel, explaining its place in Tournier's preoccupations & use of biblical themes throughout his career.
Unconvincing in character and argument (Catholic vs. Protestant culture stereotyped, Irish & Native American culture romanticized). introduction by the translator is more illuminating than the sparse but mannered mininovel, explaining its place in Tournier's preoccupations & use of biblical themes throughout his career.
April 14, 2011
Lesser Tournier, still packed with sentence-to-sentence information that bespeaks great research, curiousity, and a Flaubertian interest in both the "what" and "how" of the material world. Unfortunately, T seems to have taken too much to heart his doctrine of readerly engagement: reading Eleazar, I wasn't just writing the book I was reading, I was writing the book I wasn't reading: a rich hymnody to the American dreamscape, think Lucky Luke crossed with Un Coeur Simple. T, you nailed the novella fable with the Four Wise Men. For Hermina (purported novel in the works, about Vampires), go juicy.
December 13, 2008
A beautiful translation of one of France's leading writers. Tournier is not well known by the general public in the USA This book give us an opportunity to read his work and is especially interesting as the main character immigrates to the USa from Ireland.
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