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My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness #3

Diario de intercambio (conmigo misma) vol. 2

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Para Kabi Nagata, soy Kabi Nagata. Ha pasado algo muy gordo, y paro de contar.

Tras publicar 'Mi experiencia lesbiana con la soledad' y 'Diario de intercambio (conmigo misma)', Kabi Nagata continúa la historia de su vida narrando cómo es vivir sola, su relación con nuevas amistades, los conflictos que tiene con sus padres... ¡¿y la razón por la que ingresa en una clínica?!

¡Por fin tenéis en las manos la última entrega de este notorio y descarnadamente sincero manga de ensayo! Nagata continúa en este tomo relatando sus esfuerzos por mejorar en su salud mental, aunque termina cayendo en un pozo más profundo. Incluye como extra una historia corta, 'La melancolía de Chika', un manga original de Nagata.

176 pages, Paperback

First published February 12, 2019

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Nagata Kabi is a Japanese manga artist best known for My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness. Nagata has been drawing for as long as she can remember.

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Profile Image for Dave Schaafsma.
Author 6 books32.2k followers
September 12, 2021
Reread 9/21

So, I read the first book by Kabi Nagata, My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness, about the clinically shy/introvert/lonely Nagata trying to make human connections, trying to come out, going to an escort service. But from the first I thought this wasn't primarily a story about LGBTQ issues, as her social anxiety and depression seemed foremost. In the process of sharing her very personal (and articulate) story online she--this very private and largely isolated and deeply lonely woman--became famous, which was both confirming that her life had value, and also. . . complicated, anxiety-producing.

I thought this book was the immediate sequel to the above title, but this is actually the second part which I just happened tp pick up and read. And now I have read the first solo exchange diary volume. In this one vol. 2, things get worse before they get better. In it she begins to develop insights about how supportive and loving her family has always been (and she regrets what she sees as her having been mean and ungrateful about them), even as she becomes hospitalized (twice) for substance abuse, cutting, and so on. The core issue here is her anxiety/depression, which she begins to realize.

When I was reading this I thought about that book I read and never reviewed about the loss of community and increasing isolation, Bowling Alone. I thought about the study I recently read in the Washington Post, "It's Not Just You" by Lisa Bonos and Emily Gurkin about how 51% of young Americans don't have a steady romantic partner. I thought of the Lawrence Block crime novels I am reading where almost every character including the main one, the detective Matthew Scudder, is desperately alone (as opposed to comfortably alone, which of course happens). I thought about the rising suicide rate among young people as I read about the sometimes suicidal Nagata.

On almost every page Nagata cries, and so you can see she is not just lonely, and it's not just about her sexual identity, but she's this deeply depressed person who also happens to be sharing all of these issues--her life--online and in these three books. So it's raw, raw, raw, raw, but also often beautifully articulated and insightful and so useful for literally thousands of people, judging by her continued popularity. And she makes it clear that she is making some progress in her life, finally. I enjoyed it more than the first book because that one was ostensibly about this kind of weird escort service moment, and this one clearly just centers on her core issue, depression. In spite of all the tears we come to like her and appreciate her struggle.

From Maria Popova's Branipickings, on loneliness:

https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/07...
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231 reviews1,146 followers
March 4, 2019
This is a type of book that can't be judged or evaluated because it is about the author's personal life.
How can one evaluate the life of another and give stars through it?
This is one of the topics the author deals with in this volume. As she realized that in writing her life she ended up selling herself and putting not only her but her family in spotlight.
In this volume the depression of Kabi appears with all its force again. Her anxiety about thinking about the future and her career leads to a deep state of depression resulting in some major decisions.
One is that she decides to go back to live in her parents' house and after a while she realizes that this shouldn't be cause for shame. Another decision is to look for a clinic and stay for a while there.
The times spent in the clinic are difficult and troubled, but she learns important things in this place.
Anyway ... I really liked this volume and I don't know if there will be a continuation, but if there is one I would definitely like to read. Kabi inspires me and brings me hope that it is possible to live, to survive even when everything inside you seems to tell you otherwise.
PS: The oneshot within this volume was great too, bringing interesting and critical reflection on society and its judgments.
Profile Image for Ria.
577 reviews75 followers
November 29, 2020
''You've bullied yourself plenty already. Don't bully yourself anymore.''

ha ha ha ha.. i'm sad now... anyways, can't wait for My Alcoholic Escape from Reality!!

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Profile Image for Jessica.
139 reviews4 followers
November 14, 2020
I really respect Nagata Kabi for putting herself out there and talking so openly about her anxiety and depression. I understand that mental illness is a painful thing to live with, especially in a place like Japan where seeking therapy is still fairly frowned upon. But I still found it hard to read about this woman doing little more than running circles in her own little pit of despair. I hope she can get out someday and find happiness.
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768 reviews101 followers
February 10, 2020
Czytam komiksy zamiast pracować :D

Podobało mi się równie mocno, co pierwsza część, chociaż teraz wiedziałam już, czego się spodziewać i nie popłakałam się przy lekturze. Ale porobiłam mnóstwo zakładek w momentach, gdy miałam "och, it's so me". Tym razem narra(u)torka bierze na warsztat swoje otoczenie, dużo dosadniej uderza w problemy rodzinne, brak wsparcia i miłości ze strony rodziców, toksyczne relacje w rodzinie. I jej introspekcja jest głębsza, jakby wcześniej omówiła widoczne problemy, a teraz analizowała przyczyny. Komiks coraz bardziej przypomina sesję terapeutyczną i prace Alison Bechdel. W dobrym sensie. To osobista, przenikliwa narracja na granicy nieprzyjemnego naruszania granic prywatności. Introspektywna narracja w najlepszym wydaniu.
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563 reviews20 followers
February 18, 2019
Progress, as they say, is a spiral.

I am deeply grateful to these books and their honesty about the mundane nature of recovery, the struggle within success, and how sometimes all the love we crave is already present in our lives -- we only need to become the version of ourselves who is ready to experience it.

I won't be surprised if this volume gets lower ratings than the first two. The cultural dissonance about the treatment of mental health and the importance of family probably won't go over easily if a reader is unfamiliar with Japanese attitudes. (I am familiar with them, but it was still stressful to read at times.) Moreover, there's less the air of triumph about this volume -- more setbacks than victories, more confusion than conclusions.

The theme of this book, in contrast, is perseverance. And maybe that doesn't make for as enthralling a read -- something Nagata Kabi addresses textually in the second epilogue: "But it's still my life." And that's why I'm so grateful for it, for the fact the books conclude on that note of still needing to strive, still getting knocked down and back up again. So many stories about mental health and self-acceptance give the reader a pat narrative arc, but that's not life.

Stories of success are essential; they give us hope. But life -- which My Solo Exchange Diary tries to honestly record -- can be more complicated, and with so many of us struggling there is the need for empathy and recognition just as much as hope. These journeys to happiness are long and many people think a lack of concrete achievement means failure, day after day after day. But Nagata is so very good at sketching a picture, out of dismissable and even miserable details, that convalesces into a portrait of self-forgiveness. Even unhappiness and setbacks can teach us, is the moral of these painful episodes, and I'd rather that message be broadcast out into the world: the message that struggle is not failure. You are worth fighting for, even when you feel like you can't win for losing.

Five stars, and not because of love for previous volumes or because I admire the author's overall effort. This book earns every one of them.
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January 5, 2024
I would go to school if Nagata Kabi was the teacher, loneliness was the uniform, lesbian experiences were the bus, and My Solo Exchange Diary Vol. 2 (My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness) was the textbook
Profile Image for Rod Brown.
7,384 reviews284 followers
March 22, 2019
This entry is more frustrating than the previous two as the author mostly sets aside LGBTQ issues and focuses on the anxiety and depression which eventually result in her voluntary hospitalization following a strong bout of substance abuse.

Outside forces seem to be affecting the narrative as the author recounts how her family reacts to their depictions in the early volumes and realizes she is under some pressure to bring the series to a conclusion for the publisher. Some of the developments felt like backtracking to mend hurt feelings or exaggeration of progress for a happy ending.

Finally, there is the intriguing inclusion of one of the author's works of fiction. It was interesting to see the change of her art style to portray a sci-fi dystopia and to pick up on themes from her life evident in the story. That said, it wasn't a particularly good story.
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660 reviews21 followers
May 17, 2021
I am not always great about trigger warnings, but Nagata Kabi commits herself to mental health hospital in this book and commits some self harm. Her art is simplistic enough that nothing is graphic, but the text is very open about both of these. Also, hand to god, I am only just realizing that she's been having a conversation with herself on the cover of the last 2 books. Not a proud moment for me.

This book shows maybe some of the best progress for Nagata's mental health we've seen yet in this series. She's making more connections about her family and their relationship, she's reframed the role her parents play in her life and she's starting to appreciate the way her home life works. There are still stops and starts in her journey and the title of the next book, My Alcoholic Escape from Reality, is telling about the work still to do.

I am genuinely invested in the little author who could. She doesn't pull punches and she doesn't shy away from her faults. She is still open about the struggles and starting to show some optimism. The art is incredibly simple and it's not the selling point for the books. It's watching someone strive to be a complete person and grow up right in front of us. It's oddly compelling considering how hard some her journey is to read. Keep getting better Nagata Kabi, you have stories left to tell.
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297 reviews107 followers
May 17, 2023
it takes so much to be able to just rip yourself open and pour it out on a massive scale. not only that but seeing people critique it…truly could never be me and i applaud this mangaka. i think i’m forming a bit of a parasocial friendship with her lmao. i just want the best for her and i appreciate how she shows that although you may want the best for yourself, “recovery” isn’t this linear easy process. it’s a lot. but the fact that she’s still trying is inspirational!
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60 reviews8 followers
December 20, 2018
Wow, I still admire Nagata for being able to put so much of herself on the page; I really found it interesting that she included the repercussions of her first book in this one. I mean, considering this is a memoir, it makes sense, but she could have just as easily left things out to help with her relationship with her family.

Kudos for being so candid and honest, and frankly, brave.
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229 reviews2 followers
August 29, 2023
I really enjoy reading her Memoir comics. She shares very vulnerable times in her life, and shows us how she continues to change and grow as a person. Honestly, it feels real and true. Her struggles are ones that many people across the world can relate to in some way, and it just gives you the feeling of I’m not alone. I always recommend her stuff for this reason.
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Author 7 books97 followers
December 7, 2025
Bu kitabın eleştirilerinde çok gördüğüm bir şey var. Yazarın kendi hayatını anlatması, kitabı yargılarken hayatını yargılamış olmaz mıyız sorusuna yol açıyor. Aslında çok doğru bir değerlendirme olmakla beraber, bu deneyimi nasıl anlattığımız önem taşıyor günün sonunda. Herkesin benzer deneyimlerden geçebileceği bir durumu anlatırken seçtiği çizgiler, depresyonunun en dibini bir estetiğe dönüştürebilme becerisi Nagata Kabi’ye hayran olmamızı sağlıyor.
Profile Image for MarinaLawliett.
549 reviews54 followers
September 3, 2020
Me ha gustado muchísimo.... No quería que acabase nunca😭💔😭
A veces sentía que lo que leía no era real y no era más que una historia de ficción, pero cada vez que recordaba la experiencia de Kabi Nagata me sentía súper triste y sobretodo impotente. Espero que la autora esté pudiendo lograr sus objetivos y felicidad poco a poco✨


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La historia de La melancolía de Chika, que han incluído al final del tomo, me ha sorprendido muchísimo! Tenía mucha curiosidad por leer algo de ficción de la autora y me ha sorprendido para bien! Ojalá poder leer más 😊
Profile Image for elif sinem.
843 reviews83 followers
August 16, 2023
Man... Nagata goes through so much. I think a highlight of this volume and edition is the frank discussion about how writing about your own life and your own family, even with a pseudonym, can affect your quality of life and family. Of course it all gets too much when you are your own character in your own story. The loneliness... the intensity of it... you really do feel for her.

Okay, that being said... the one-shot... um... yeah I can see why Nagata feels more comfortable writing about herself lol
Profile Image for Fenriz Angelo.
459 reviews40 followers
July 2, 2019
If you relate to her struggle, it makes you think about your own wrongdoings that you didn't notice while in a bad emotional state...
Profile Image for Larakaa.
1,052 reviews17 followers
February 5, 2020
Tough to digest but very honest and true
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365 reviews38 followers
February 26, 2024
Lol i finished this ages ago and just forgot to say so. I didn't like this as much as volume 1 but it was still pretty good
Profile Image for Raquel.
21 reviews1 follower
February 19, 2019
I relate too much to the endless cycles of depression and anxiety, that it makes me a little scared tbh. Her realizations about her family also hit too close to home for me. I felt the same way not too long ago about what she felt about her mom about my dad. Almost made me cry but I had to stop because I already had a headache. ✌️
Profile Image for César Galicia.
Author 3 books365 followers
December 17, 2019
Otra exploración profunda de la depresión, esta vez no desde el daño que puede ocasionar, sino desde la reconciliación. Si la saga de "My lesbian experience..." terminara acá, sería suficiente.
Profile Image for Jon Ureña.
Author 3 books121 followers
June 9, 2019
The third entry in a series that started with "My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness". There the author opened up about dealing with severe mental issues for her entire life, which led her to seek her first intimate human contact with a prostitute. In this third volume, I'm saddened to see that Nagata has only gone further down the spiral. Her worsening depression doesn't allow her to enjoy or feel accomplishment for anything, and the few people that get her out of the house do it sparingly, though sweetly, and as if for charity. Otherwise, she can't handle the loneliness of living on her own, despite being able to pay the rent through her books, and decides to move back with her parents. Although Nagata maligned her parents in a general "I hate my life and you created it" kind of way, she comes to appreciate how much they put up with her. The author visits a therapist semi-regularly, as well as some other dubious practices. Nothing seems to be helping significantly. There's virtually at least a panel in every page in which the author cries for some reason. She reaches her thirties during this time, and she implies a couple of times that she believes her life has effectively ended.

Spoilers for the biggest stuff that happens in this volume: Nagata falls into .

This volume disturbed me more than anything, in part maybe because it reminded me of my worst times in the hole. It has that diluted effect of having been created under the influence of untreatable depression. Some years ago, when I was failing to get a job because nobody wanted an autistic programmer (who actually intended to write for a living although I had no contacts and nobody would tolerate me for long) with more holes in his resume than in his fabricated personality, I joined a group of people with disabilities that was supposed to help us reintegrate into society. The first day there I met an older, around 45 years old woman who after a few seconds explaining her reasons for being there, she burst into tears, and kept crying for the remaining minutes until she left the room and quit the course. The main thing I learned attending those circles is that virtually everyone in the "real world" only comes in contact with the success cases: those who are too far gone are crammed into holes so they won't perturb those whose worldview depends on kindness and hope.

Around the middle of this volume, the author reads some manga and admires the cohesive plots other people are able to create. She feels that she's losing her ability to weave coherent stories, to make sense out of things. Beyond that, she can't come up with new plotlines. I'm afraid Nagata at this point has a single compelling story to tell: that of her own disintegration. I don't know if a person can do much to get out of that situation when therapy nor pills work. It feels out of your hands whether you end up on some solid shore or you sink to the bottom.
Profile Image for Mateen Mahboubi.
1,585 reviews19 followers
May 19, 2019
A powerfully honest book about mental illness/depression. Nagata really opens up and gives us a glimpse into how debilitating parts of her life can be. I hope that she finds the stability and care that she needs.
Profile Image for Alex Richey.
563 reviews22 followers
February 14, 2019
I really enjoyed Nagata's previous work, but I can only handle so much paralyzing, debilitating depression before it starts to rub off on me. She's brutally honest, which I can respect, but I just had a hard time enjoying the book.

Also, I'm not sure what's up with the cover illustration. This book didn't really have any sex in it like the last two did. It seems to be following the trend of the previous two books, but it's really out of place in this volume.
Profile Image for Ivette.
38 reviews
April 8, 2021
The individual books are good by themselves, but the full experience can only be reached by reading the entire series. Kabi's story can become dark and repetitive at times, but that's what concretely represents her mental state. Definitely recommend for those trying to understand the mind of friends and family who seem 'not to care' or 'to be lazy' and 'selfish' - depression is real, and it affects people physically and psychologically in ways that are particular to each individual.
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April 17, 2019
I think her openness and vulnerability is very brave, but this is not something I want to reread or a series I can continue reading. It reminds me too much of how I feel at my worst and just makes me feel scared for my future.
Profile Image for Ariel ✨.
193 reviews98 followers
August 12, 2022
I think I was more patient when I read her last two books. Now that I'm closer to her age here, I can't help but think, "Holy hell, get yourself together." She got help. She seems fine now. That's good.
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980 reviews5 followers
January 18, 2019
I was a bigger fan of the first book but still related to her desire for independence.
Profile Image for Nicolas Lontel.
1,253 reviews92 followers
March 22, 2019
Ainsi que le volume précédent My Solo Exchange Diary Vol. 1 et My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness, ce manga autobiographique explore la vie de l'autrice à travers sa dépression, la navigation des limites, la solitude, mais aussi l'amour et les moments de bonheur qui peuvent parfois émerger. Cette fois-ci, Kabi Nagata semble décidément avoir trouvée une meilleure voix, une meilleure manière de naviguer ses limites et ses interactions avec sa famille (avec laquelle elle est retournée vivre) et comprend comment se défaire de sa solitude. Ce n'est évidemment pas sans problème, ni anxiété qui remonte à la surface ou des moments vraiment sombres, mais la fin laisse présager une meilleure connaissance d'elle-même et de comment faire face à sa dépression.

Le volume 2 reprend exactement là où il avait été laissé dans le volume 1 et Nagata parle de sa consommation d'eau excessive, de boissons alcooliques, de son hospitalisation, mais aussi d'une meilleure compréhension de ce qui l'entoure (ami·es et membres de sa famille). Les thèmes de l'amour de soi et des autres, mais aussi de la communication (écoute) et de l'empathie sont explorés comme bénéfiques pour sa santé mentale. Peut-être parce qu'il s'agit là du dernier volume, la fin est beaucoup plus optimiste et pensée comme telle.

La couverture est très évocatrice du format du manga sous le thème l'échange journalistique avec elle même: une Kabi buvant (beaucoup) de l'alcool converse avec une Kabi blessée (bien qu'ayant reçu un pansement depuis).

Deux épilogues et un manga complètent le volume. Dans les épilogues, elle détaille un peu les étapes de sa sobriété après son hospitalisation et comment elle prend l'alcool dorénavant. Le second, plus méta, explore la réaction critique, qu'elle a perçue comme beaucoup plus négative que son premier manga, et des effets que cette critique a eu sur elle, mais comment la formation d'un meilleur réseau l'a toutefois aidé à passer mieux au travers (ça, et de nouvelles philosophies de vie).

Le manga, Chika-Chan's Depression est une métaphore de la dépression à travers une protagoniste, aidée d'une amie, qui combattent une organisation surpuissante appelée la société. On y découvre un style de dessin complètement différent et beaucoup plus détaillés que le style auquel on a été habitué (sans aucun doute motivé par plusieurs éléments présentés dans ses mangas, surtout ce volume-ci). La métaphore est bien représentée et on y retrouvera des "solutions" (l'amitié, la confrontation, la distanciation, etc.) qui sont aussi bien représenté dans ses échanges journalistiques comme l'ayant personnellement aidé (et elle est très claire à plusieurs reprises que ce sont des choses qui l'aident elle, mais que ce n'est pas nécessairement le cas pour tou·tes).

Dans l'ensemble, c'est encore un manga extrêmement touchant et profond, qui arrive, dans un dessin très simple, à communiquer un éventail d'émotions que peut d'auteur·es arrive à créer chez son lectorat. On a hâte à ses futurs projets que le manga final nous laisse entrevoir et on souhaite sincèrement le meilleur pour elle.
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