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Meleklerin Küllerinden: Günahkâr Bir Irkın Yasaklanmış Mirası
Melekler ve günahkar melekler mitolojik ülkelerin dışında var mıydılar? Onların gerçek kökenleri neydi, uygarlığın yükselmesinde nasıl bir etkide bulunmuş olabilirlerdi? Andrew Collins insanı rahatsız eden kanıtlarla şunları gösteriyor:
• Melekler, şeytanlar ve günahkar melekler, Batı uygarlığını kuran etten kemikten insanlardı.
• Eden, Cennet ve Paradise bir zamanlar Kürdistan’ın dağları arasında bulunan dünyevi yerlerdi.
• Musevi metinlerinde Gözleyenler ve Nefilim olarak bilinen bu insan melekler aslen Mısır’dan gelmişlerdi ve Büyük Sfenks’i ve diğer devasa yapıları kurmuşlardı.
• Hem Mısır’ın yüksek uygarlığı hem de Kürdistan’ın Gözleyenleri, dünyanın sorumluluğunu almadığı korkutucu bir miras olarak kaldı.
• Melekler, şeytanlar ve günahkar melekler, Batı uygarlığını kuran etten kemikten insanlardı.
• Eden, Cennet ve Paradise bir zamanlar Kürdistan’ın dağları arasında bulunan dünyevi yerlerdi.
• Musevi metinlerinde Gözleyenler ve Nefilim olarak bilinen bu insan melekler aslen Mısır’dan gelmişlerdi ve Büyük Sfenks’i ve diğer devasa yapıları kurmuşlardı.
• Hem Mısır’ın yüksek uygarlığı hem de Kürdistan’ın Gözleyenleri, dünyanın sorumluluğunu almadığı korkutucu bir miras olarak kaldı.
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First published August 29, 1996
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March 18, 2009
I picked this book up because I was researching angels for my book I'm writing. What I ended up with a the possibility that the basic premise of my book got totally blown away. Ok, so this book really rocked my philosophical world. It's amazing how many things I've believed merely on the word of my parents and/or teachers without any proof. Here we come on the heels of what the academic world says is the "truth" and then it's totally shot. Needless to say, I thought I was open-minded but this book really pushed the envelope. I enjoyed the experience and am now on the road to study this question even more.
It's a wonderfully well researched book and is not depending on the theory of "aliens"...not in the least. It's a great read but be warned, you will either love it, hate it, or be totally confused by it. Either way, it will change you.
It's a wonderfully well researched book and is not depending on the theory of "aliens"...not in the least. It's a great read but be warned, you will either love it, hate it, or be totally confused by it. Either way, it will change you.
January 11, 2011
Anyone who is interested in demon/angel/Nephilim mythos and secret societies (and MUCH more) needs to read this highly entertaining book. Fans of Z Sitchin in particular should find it pretty compelling. A lot of data has been compiled here and one read isnt enough! Helps to think outside the box a bit and be open to alternate possibilities.
September 26, 2012
This book is utterly astounding in it's reach for documentation, history, archeology, myth, legend, religion...I could go on and on.
August 8, 2017
Interesting subject, but premises and conclusions are completely wrong. The idea that both Jewish and Enochian texts have their footing in Persian traditions is far from new. Collins starts with the idea that angels are corporeal, and on that point I agree, but he then keeps stripping away angelic features from the angels until he's left with a human, but that does not explain the angelic tradition of Enoch; it explains a materialistic mind. The Enochian angels are to be regarded within the fields of demonology and mythology, not the particular traditions of story-telling in the ancient East.
He makes capital mistakes in the use and translations of Hebrew words, such as Hashem and Shemyaza. Hashem, means 'The Name' in Hebrew, as the Jews lost their name for God, and then referred to God as such. Collins however, wonders if the name Hashem refers to high places or heavens, and fantasizes that it could mean 'planted highlands'. Consequently, Shemyaza means in Hebrew 'He who knows the name', identifying him as the Adversary of God with certain 'knowledge'. Collins insists that the name because of its suffix 'yaza' has Persian roots, meaning 'angel'. Now this might technically not be wrong, but the meaning of the word Shemyaza is tied to the meaning of the word Hashem, not because of its emtymological Persian roots.
He also mentions that the Book of the Cave of Treasures is 'almost entirely the creation of an early Christian writer named Julius Africanus (AD 200-245) and written out of pure ignorance than deliberate design.' This perfectly demonstrated the writers own ignorance, as that book is basically a copy of the First and Second Books of Adam and Eve, which relates both to the downfall of the 'Sons of Seth' with the 'Daughters of Cain'. He should have known that both traditions, that of the Books of Adam and the Cave of Treasures, has a similar origin with roots deep in Jewish tradition and beyond. Both texts are likely to be seen as counterweights to the legacy of Enoch, as to explain the cause of the Flood to the sins of mankind themselves rather than the acts of Angelic Watchers and their Nephilim offspring.
To demonstrate that the legacy of Enoch is only to be found in the ancient Near East also overlooks the countless traditions of giants, demons, and angels all over the world, in all ages. Those who have studied demonology and fairy-faith, know that Enoch's story has immense implications for people of the old as well as for us today.
He makes capital mistakes in the use and translations of Hebrew words, such as Hashem and Shemyaza. Hashem, means 'The Name' in Hebrew, as the Jews lost their name for God, and then referred to God as such. Collins however, wonders if the name Hashem refers to high places or heavens, and fantasizes that it could mean 'planted highlands'. Consequently, Shemyaza means in Hebrew 'He who knows the name', identifying him as the Adversary of God with certain 'knowledge'. Collins insists that the name because of its suffix 'yaza' has Persian roots, meaning 'angel'. Now this might technically not be wrong, but the meaning of the word Shemyaza is tied to the meaning of the word Hashem, not because of its emtymological Persian roots.
He also mentions that the Book of the Cave of Treasures is 'almost entirely the creation of an early Christian writer named Julius Africanus (AD 200-245) and written out of pure ignorance than deliberate design.' This perfectly demonstrated the writers own ignorance, as that book is basically a copy of the First and Second Books of Adam and Eve, which relates both to the downfall of the 'Sons of Seth' with the 'Daughters of Cain'. He should have known that both traditions, that of the Books of Adam and the Cave of Treasures, has a similar origin with roots deep in Jewish tradition and beyond. Both texts are likely to be seen as counterweights to the legacy of Enoch, as to explain the cause of the Flood to the sins of mankind themselves rather than the acts of Angelic Watchers and their Nephilim offspring.
To demonstrate that the legacy of Enoch is only to be found in the ancient Near East also overlooks the countless traditions of giants, demons, and angels all over the world, in all ages. Those who have studied demonology and fairy-faith, know that Enoch's story has immense implications for people of the old as well as for us today.
November 16, 2013
A wonderful example of how the ancients could have gotten something the didn't understand misinterpreted as the Devine.
After reading this book you may either be angry and what you've been told about certain things in the bible or you'll just hate this book and put it under blasphemy. Either way you should read this with an open mind.
After reading this book you may either be angry and what you've been told about certain things in the bible or you'll just hate this book and put it under blasphemy. Either way you should read this with an open mind.
November 25, 2017
What I appreciated most of this book was how Collins when backwards through the ages, myths and cultures to strip down the historical idea of angels to it's most basic human possibility.
Fantastically researched, this is my favorite of Andrew Collins' works.
Fantastically researched, this is my favorite of Andrew Collins' works.
February 23, 2012
Entertainingly insane bizarro history.
December 24, 2012
This book was well written. I loved the amount of historical information that was provided in this book pertaining to the Watchers of Kurdistan. This book provides quotes, timelines, and specific beliefs and folklore from Semitic tribes to Cappadocian history from Turkey; including Egypt. This book was definitely hard to put down. Its a straight forward, no propaganda thesis that was well thought out. Loved it.
December 24, 2013
The book I read to research this post was From The Ashes Of Angels by Andrew Collins which is a very good book which I bought from Amazon. This book is the culmination of years of research into biblical history and in particular whether there was a race of people regarded as angels that walked among men. This time scale would have roughly coincided with the cataclysm that ended the last ice age about 9,600 years ago. This race had wings, white skin and were very tall. They mated with human women and this may have gone a long way into dissolving the bloodline. Atlantis may have coincidently existed at this time. Also modern day Kurdistan which is part of Iraq may have been where the Garden Of Eden and although nowadays is probably rather barren, at one time the weather cycles were different. Even the Sahara area was once the site of lush vegetation. Andrew tends to write books like this about what may or may not have happened with regard to ancient and biblical history. His books are interesting and I did enjoy this book.
September 25, 2013
Interesting though ultimately unprovable hypothesis that "angels" of old, commonly described as flesh and blood beings with human emotions, were actually a race of slanty-eyed albinos. If true, it would tie up some loose ends in ancient history; if not, the author is thoroughly but entertainingly crazy. Good read!
August 26, 2009
This was probably one of the first alternative history books I ever read. I sat enthralled through the entire thing. I looked at each of Collins' references and found them backed. It's a very very entertaining and thorough look at Biblical and Ancient History!
November 22, 2012
This book is thought-provoking, and thankfully ignores a lot of current politically-correct conventions in anthropology. To make most of it's vital conclusions, the evidence (archaeological and anthropological) has to be viewed in a comparative, linear light.
January 1, 2015
Well written. Author takes you thru his thought process and includes his sources. A good starting point for further research.
October 3, 2019
Excellent survey of history, myth, religion, archaeology, and more, as they pertain to the legends of “the Fallen Race” — some of whom may have seeded civilization after the catastrophes at the Pleistocene/Holocene boundary, and in the fifth or fourth millennium B.C.E.
Lots to mull over, though we are learning more about this all the time.
This is a good introduction to the subject, and a good follow-up to reading The Book of Enoch.
Lots to mull over, though we are learning more about this all the time.
This is a good introduction to the subject, and a good follow-up to reading The Book of Enoch.
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August 2, 2020Completely bonkers but highly entertaining.
August 19, 2009
An interesting concept and idea unconvincingly argued. What got me what that Collin’s regularly cautioned against other academies ‘assumptions’ but then goes on to make assumptions of his own. Why are his any more trust worthy than others?
June 16, 2015
Researching angels, fallen angels, and the like is a fun hobby for me. This was an interesting book. Some of the items within it were familiar to me, while other myths were new. It could be a great research tool for writers of paranormal fiction!
February 1, 2017
I picked up this book the day it came out. If you are stone set in your christian beliefs, this book is not for you. It talks about the fallen angels called The Watcher. Not to be confused with those who left with Lucifer.
January 14, 2009
Some interesting ideas on the original of angelic depictions and archetypes of various civilisations.
February 12, 2010
Extremely well researched and written. Whether you buy into it or not, it can certainly persuade you if you know your biblical and ancient historical references.
March 9, 2011
The book provides a host of information about angels that one might not have known before. A lot of it is pure speculation, but nevertheless, the book is an entertaining read.
April 19, 2011
Wow....this is quite intersting so far....
May 25, 2014
This is really great book and a must for those who find interest in Nephalim.
October 25, 2012
Utter nonsense, but what a hoot! 3 stars for entertainment value.
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January 22, 2015A travel through history with inciting detailes, rising new questions...
February 16, 2022
Probably wrong about everything.
November 19, 2019
love love loved this book. i don't agree with everything collins sets forth, but i don't agree with everybody or anything full force. i will say that collins gets A LOT of it right, or so it seems. we still really don't know.
this is a really, really hazy subject that collins decided to pull apart. i can't imagine the amount of research he has done putting this book together, but the things he has found are totally astounding.
after reading it, my head is spinning. i need time to integrate everything he has found and set forth. basically he figures out and sets an insane amount of circumstantial evidence forth that what we see as angels actually were beings in corporeal bodies who practiced bird shamanism and influenced the humans of the middle east. and, that the people closest to this line are the kurdish people.
he starts with biblical stuff then talks about how the biblical myths changed after the jews left their exile in susa... goes into the iranian myths and tracks everything until he ends up in kurdistan, basically.
with how they've been railroaded and don't even have a place to live... it makes sense.
this is a book you need to sit with. there is a wealth of information. i find myself going back a lot and refreshing myself on the iranian myths, which i want to get a good steady hold of myself.
i also never knew about the underground tunnels at cappadocia before this book! those tunnels had to have been dug out way back, with advanced tech we dont even know about...
this is a really important book everyone should read. it will give you a good framework on the clusterfuck of things in the middle east that need to be read through and understood in order to understand the society we live in. whether you like it or not, the basis was formed there and it's important to know what happened there. this book doesn't have everything, but it has a lot, and is a wonderful starting point for my biblical and theological research.
will voraciously read anything andrew puts out. i'm lucky to have met him at a conference and to be in correspondence with him - wonderful, lovely, humble and kind man. this book just got banned in turkey - all copies ordered to be destroyed. so you know he's doing something right.
this is a really, really hazy subject that collins decided to pull apart. i can't imagine the amount of research he has done putting this book together, but the things he has found are totally astounding.
after reading it, my head is spinning. i need time to integrate everything he has found and set forth. basically he figures out and sets an insane amount of circumstantial evidence forth that what we see as angels actually were beings in corporeal bodies who practiced bird shamanism and influenced the humans of the middle east. and, that the people closest to this line are the kurdish people.
he starts with biblical stuff then talks about how the biblical myths changed after the jews left their exile in susa... goes into the iranian myths and tracks everything until he ends up in kurdistan, basically.
with how they've been railroaded and don't even have a place to live... it makes sense.
this is a book you need to sit with. there is a wealth of information. i find myself going back a lot and refreshing myself on the iranian myths, which i want to get a good steady hold of myself.
i also never knew about the underground tunnels at cappadocia before this book! those tunnels had to have been dug out way back, with advanced tech we dont even know about...
this is a really important book everyone should read. it will give you a good framework on the clusterfuck of things in the middle east that need to be read through and understood in order to understand the society we live in. whether you like it or not, the basis was formed there and it's important to know what happened there. this book doesn't have everything, but it has a lot, and is a wonderful starting point for my biblical and theological research.
will voraciously read anything andrew puts out. i'm lucky to have met him at a conference and to be in correspondence with him - wonderful, lovely, humble and kind man. this book just got banned in turkey - all copies ordered to be destroyed. so you know he's doing something right.
April 23, 2025
From the Ashes of Angels: The Forbidden Legacy of a Fallen Race, a book by British writer Andrew Collins, where it follows the history of the "Watchers of Kurdistan" through an alternative path into history of the Middle East and the World, signifying the importance and the role of the Kurds, shedding the light on their mark in the development and evolution of the ancient civilisations of the region.
The topic starts to search for the meaning and origins of the Watchers, some heavenly or superior beings and their interactions with the humans in old texts, especially in texts that were not affected by change and censorship of the dominant religions, most importantly among them being the Book of Enoch.
A noteworthy aspect of the book is the nice trip into the three important indigenous religions of the Kurds, the Yazidis, the Yarsan (Kaka'i) and the Alevis. A dive into their meticulous history, their roots and interconnections.
Why this is important, is that unfortunately for the Kurds, we have lost a lot about these religions, due to oppression and persecution, leading to forgetting how authentic and meaningful they are, helping to preserve the national identity of Kurds and Kurdistan. Coming with those incorporeal losses, the worse losses of wealth, geography and even people, to the neighbouring Arabs, Persians and Turks. No surprise then that the Kurds are the largest nation without a country.
Then at the end, the character of the writer is completely drawn when he gives way to the possible root of the Kurds returning to ancient Egypt, long before the pharaohs, and the mysteries of the Pyramids and many other angles showing that a lot regarding our known history, is still doubtful with many revolutionary ideas looming in the horizon, that can turn our history upside down.
The book is very important for the Kurds; I don't know if there's an ongoing project to translate it into Kurdish. Even if the scientific matter of the book is not %100 agreeable, it can open many new panels for research and thinking, boosting the moral of a Kurdish nation, to fight for its existence.
The topic starts to search for the meaning and origins of the Watchers, some heavenly or superior beings and their interactions with the humans in old texts, especially in texts that were not affected by change and censorship of the dominant religions, most importantly among them being the Book of Enoch.
A noteworthy aspect of the book is the nice trip into the three important indigenous religions of the Kurds, the Yazidis, the Yarsan (Kaka'i) and the Alevis. A dive into their meticulous history, their roots and interconnections.
Why this is important, is that unfortunately for the Kurds, we have lost a lot about these religions, due to oppression and persecution, leading to forgetting how authentic and meaningful they are, helping to preserve the national identity of Kurds and Kurdistan. Coming with those incorporeal losses, the worse losses of wealth, geography and even people, to the neighbouring Arabs, Persians and Turks. No surprise then that the Kurds are the largest nation without a country.
Then at the end, the character of the writer is completely drawn when he gives way to the possible root of the Kurds returning to ancient Egypt, long before the pharaohs, and the mysteries of the Pyramids and many other angles showing that a lot regarding our known history, is still doubtful with many revolutionary ideas looming in the horizon, that can turn our history upside down.
The book is very important for the Kurds; I don't know if there's an ongoing project to translate it into Kurdish. Even if the scientific matter of the book is not %100 agreeable, it can open many new panels for research and thinking, boosting the moral of a Kurdish nation, to fight for its existence.
November 11, 2022
A complete and utter waste of time. The author spends over 300 pages showing “evidence” of fallen angels – stories of snake-faced men with feather cloaks who bring wisdom to various cultures in the middle east – only to finally pronounce that the fallen angels never existed, that God doesn’t exist, that the real wisdom givers were an advanced race of man who may or may not have looked like the snake-faced men with feather cloaks. Then why the heck did he spend over 300 pages trying to convince his audience that’s what they were?! And why did he spend an entire chapter recounting his visit to a Zoroastrian church service for no apparent reason? Complete waste of time.
The author’s “quest for the truth” is supported by a lot of supposition that doesn't even hold water through the end of each chapter. Examples: because multiple different ancient tribes displayed various birds in their religious symbols, that must mean they all worshipped angels. And not just any angels: ones who have fallen to earth and given their wisdom to man. And, hey, there were some tribes who worshipped snakes and this other tribe said the fallen angels had snake-like faces, so the snake-worshippers must have been worshipping angels, too. Let’s not even get into when he bring lion symbols into the mix. Because it’s not like those tribes could have just been worshipping animals, right?
The author’s “quest for the truth” is supported by a lot of supposition that doesn't even hold water through the end of each chapter. Examples: because multiple different ancient tribes displayed various birds in their religious symbols, that must mean they all worshipped angels. And not just any angels: ones who have fallen to earth and given their wisdom to man. And, hey, there were some tribes who worshipped snakes and this other tribe said the fallen angels had snake-like faces, so the snake-worshippers must have been worshipping angels, too. Let’s not even get into when he bring lion symbols into the mix. Because it’s not like those tribes could have just been worshipping animals, right?
November 5, 2017
Besides being research material, this is an interesting, informative book.
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