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ده روز با داعش از درون دولت اسلامی
An alarming and enlightening firsthand account of what’s really going on behind the borders of the Islamic State.
ISIS, IS, the ISLAMIC State. It's an organisation that has taken on chilling associations due to the horrific deeds committed in its name. ISIS beheads journalists — and yet one, Jurgen Todenhofer, was invited to visit its fighters in Mosul, after months of negotiations. Accompanied by his son, Frederic Todenhofer, who photographed the journey, he asked them to explain their beliefs, motivations, and goals. This book, the most in-depth research conducted on the terror group so far, is the result of those conversations. My Journey into the Heart of Terror shows how the organisation grew from its al-Qaeda roots and the role the West has played, both past and present. Along the way, Todenhofer offers startling insights into what ISIS thinks, what it wants — and how it can be defeated. Only by understanding our enemies, Todenhofer believes, can we combat ISIS’s radical, un-Islamic vision and the terror and destruction it brings.
ISIS, IS, the ISLAMIC State. It's an organisation that has taken on chilling associations due to the horrific deeds committed in its name. ISIS beheads journalists — and yet one, Jurgen Todenhofer, was invited to visit its fighters in Mosul, after months of negotiations. Accompanied by his son, Frederic Todenhofer, who photographed the journey, he asked them to explain their beliefs, motivations, and goals. This book, the most in-depth research conducted on the terror group so far, is the result of those conversations. My Journey into the Heart of Terror shows how the organisation grew from its al-Qaeda roots and the role the West has played, both past and present. Along the way, Todenhofer offers startling insights into what ISIS thinks, what it wants — and how it can be defeated. Only by understanding our enemies, Todenhofer believes, can we combat ISIS’s radical, un-Islamic vision and the terror and destruction it brings.
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January 22, 2020
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August 7, 2021
خیلی مطالب خاصی نداشت بر خلاف اسمش که بنظر میرسه خیلی جنجالی و پر محتواست ، چیز خاصی نداره و یک سوم کتاب فقط درباره رفتن به این سفر صحبت میکنه و بعدش هم که میره بر خلاف انتظار با شخص مهمی صحبت نمیکنه بلکه با همون شخصی که قبلا تلفنی با هم تمام حرفاشونو زده بودن ملاقات میکنه و در نهایت هم دست خالی بر میگرده و برای مهم جلوه دادن سفرش میگه به نظرم شخصی که توی این چند روز با ما بود و میزبان به حساب می امد همون جان جهادی قاتل معروف داعش بوده و این فقط در حد حدس و گمان باقی میمونه که بعدها داعشی ها تکذیبش میکنن
این توضیح رو لازم بود بنویسم که توی این چند روز صورت این شخص پوشیده بود و یه لحظه تونسته بود صورت این شخص رو ببینه که این شک براش بوجود امده بود که این شخص جان جهادی قاتل معروف داعشه که سر یه خبرنگار رو برید و البته توی این کتاب حتی یک صفحه هم درباره موضوعات مهم بحث نمیشه و فقط درباره عقیده شخصی یه داعشی بحث میشه ... واقعا برام عجیبه که چرا بعضی از دوستان ۵ تا ستاره بهش اختصاص دادن
این توضیح رو لازم بود بنویسم که توی این چند روز صورت این شخص پوشیده بود و یه لحظه تونسته بود صورت این شخص رو ببینه که این شک براش بوجود امده بود که این شخص جان جهادی قاتل معروف داعشه که سر یه خبرنگار رو برید و البته توی این کتاب حتی یک صفحه هم درباره موضوعات مهم بحث نمیشه و فقط درباره عقیده شخصی یه داعشی بحث میشه ... واقعا برام عجیبه که چرا بعضی از دوستان ۵ تا ستاره بهش اختصاص دادن
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January 22, 2018a travelogue of the Islamic State back in the period when they still held territory in Iraq. I expected the account to be something extraordinary, given the amount of risk (they were entering a state that specialized in beheading journalists and foreigners) and the amount of opportunity (they were the first journalists specially, even cordially, invited by the professed caliph of ISIS to document realities on the ground). Instead this is pretty much a near-leisurely account, written in short, clipped sentences, of a rather limited and sanitized access. The author and his companions are not allowed to conduct interviews with high-profile leaders or prisoners of war. They are not allowed to truly roam around and record their observations beyond a few well-chosen spots that present the best image of the ISIS state.
As for what they are able to record, the summary of what it tries to present is that ISIS ran a somewhat normal state. Markets selling raisins and fish are open in Mosul, restaurants serving appetizers before main dishes are open in the same city, hospitals tend to the wounded and road traffic is controlled the same way as any functioning city. ISIS joiners they meet run the gamut from personable to brutal. And I suppose this is what the ISIS propaganda office, startlingly proficient if their social media and viral video records are to be judged, wanted exactly to be produced from the authorship of Jurgen Todenhofer.
However, as he points out, normalcy is nothing but expected in totalitarian states. A well-controlled if peaceable status quo allows them to funnel their focus on war at their boundaries. The veneer is thin and could drop from the charade at any time. Their societal laws have internal logic, but brutality is what keeps the peace. Extreme punishments, like hand chops and executions, are routine. Rape and slavery occur without turning heads. The host ISIS chaperones are affable, until their beliefs are pushed against questioning a little too uncomfortably, then they are not, and the threat of a painful death hangs always.
Whenever they are asked about the more shocking actions in their arsenal, including Yazidi enslavement and the beheadings, the ISIS linemen turn to two things: a)the underdog in war must be ferocious, or b) they are excused by Islam and the Quran, which they say holds them to be implacable against enemies, like democracy or the Shias. Jurgen attempts to contradict them by pointing out the Prophet's progressive and forgiving nature and the Quranic suras for mercy, but these men have grown hard of hearing. The heinous irony is that far too many of the ISIS retinue the author encounters are foreigners- Germans, British, blonde Swedes and Finns, Trinidad and Tobagoan-- claiming the clothing of Islam to justify their misguided and cruel adventure for "meaning".
ISIS soldiers are quick to point out their status of victimhood and oppression through the policies of the USA, and its Western and Arab partners. It is true that Western politicians and unforgivable military careerists have done grievous things in long imperialistic rampages. American policy of intervention must meditate long and hard on the consequences of its history before attempting meddling again,even for initially good intent. But Americans have never celebrated the death of innocents, women, children, journalists, believers of other religions in their meddlings. Americans excel in mocking and criticizing their own moral failures; it is hard to imagine a pundit like Noam Chomsky flourishing in ISIS territory. The time has come for everyone to be held up to an equal, highest standard when treating other states. Only then can this whataboutism come to an end.
As for ISIS, they have been defeated by a hard-fought defense by the incredibly resilient Iraqi people, so not much is left to say about them. Except for an excerpt from one ISIS soldier in this book: that ISIS may often retreat, but they never surrender, and they will keep regrouping and coming back. Our struggles to win hearts and minds among the young and the zealous that often coalesce to such fanatical groups is one we have to keep fighting every generation, and that is how it always might be.
As for what they are able to record, the summary of what it tries to present is that ISIS ran a somewhat normal state. Markets selling raisins and fish are open in Mosul, restaurants serving appetizers before main dishes are open in the same city, hospitals tend to the wounded and road traffic is controlled the same way as any functioning city. ISIS joiners they meet run the gamut from personable to brutal. And I suppose this is what the ISIS propaganda office, startlingly proficient if their social media and viral video records are to be judged, wanted exactly to be produced from the authorship of Jurgen Todenhofer.
However, as he points out, normalcy is nothing but expected in totalitarian states. A well-controlled if peaceable status quo allows them to funnel their focus on war at their boundaries. The veneer is thin and could drop from the charade at any time. Their societal laws have internal logic, but brutality is what keeps the peace. Extreme punishments, like hand chops and executions, are routine. Rape and slavery occur without turning heads. The host ISIS chaperones are affable, until their beliefs are pushed against questioning a little too uncomfortably, then they are not, and the threat of a painful death hangs always.
Whenever they are asked about the more shocking actions in their arsenal, including Yazidi enslavement and the beheadings, the ISIS linemen turn to two things: a)the underdog in war must be ferocious, or b) they are excused by Islam and the Quran, which they say holds them to be implacable against enemies, like democracy or the Shias. Jurgen attempts to contradict them by pointing out the Prophet's progressive and forgiving nature and the Quranic suras for mercy, but these men have grown hard of hearing. The heinous irony is that far too many of the ISIS retinue the author encounters are foreigners- Germans, British, blonde Swedes and Finns, Trinidad and Tobagoan-- claiming the clothing of Islam to justify their misguided and cruel adventure for "meaning".
ISIS soldiers are quick to point out their status of victimhood and oppression through the policies of the USA, and its Western and Arab partners. It is true that Western politicians and unforgivable military careerists have done grievous things in long imperialistic rampages. American policy of intervention must meditate long and hard on the consequences of its history before attempting meddling again,even for initially good intent. But Americans have never celebrated the death of innocents, women, children, journalists, believers of other religions in their meddlings. Americans excel in mocking and criticizing their own moral failures; it is hard to imagine a pundit like Noam Chomsky flourishing in ISIS territory. The time has come for everyone to be held up to an equal, highest standard when treating other states. Only then can this whataboutism come to an end.
As for ISIS, they have been defeated by a hard-fought defense by the incredibly resilient Iraqi people, so not much is left to say about them. Except for an excerpt from one ISIS soldier in this book: that ISIS may often retreat, but they never surrender, and they will keep regrouping and coming back. Our struggles to win hearts and minds among the young and the zealous that often coalesce to such fanatical groups is one we have to keep fighting every generation, and that is how it always might be.
March 29, 2020
ده روز با داعش، کتاب خیلی جالبی بود و دوستش داشتم.😍
اما بذارین از نویسنده اشم براتون بگم که آقای تودنهوفر خبرنگار آلمانی تباره، که بارها و بارها به خاورمیانه سفر میکنه و از نزدیک شاهد جنگ های متعددیه و در هر جنگی که شاهده با دو طرف جنگ صحبت میکنه و ازشون دلیل و استدلال میخواد.
اما این کتاب خیلی جالب تر از این حرفاست و از فصل اول با گفتن تاریخچه شکل گیری داعش که برمیگرده به حضور آمریکایی ها در عراق شروع میکنه و پله پله پیش میره تا به موضوع اصلی برسه که گرفتن امان نامه از ابوبکر بغدادی و رفتن به مقر داعشه.
تودنهوفر با پسرش به صورت غیرقانونی از مرز ترکیه عبور میکنن و جالب ترین نکته کتاب اینجاست که این دونفر با جلاد معروف داعش همسفر میشن ولی خودشون نمی دونستن.
بحث داعش و شکل گیریش موضوعیه که در بیشتر مواقع با جانبداری توضیح داده شده و تشریح میشه اما این کتاب به نظرم اومد که بدون جانبداری باشه.
زمانی که سفر ده روزه تموم میشه و به آلمان برمیگردن، اقای نویسنده نامه ای خطاب به ابوبکر بغدادی می نویسه و با استناد به آیات قرآن، به رهبر داعش میگه که کارش ضد اسلامیه و بهش توصیه میکنه که دست از فعالیت هاش برداره که فصل آخر کتاب، راجع به این نامه است.
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پ.ن: از این کتاب یه ترجمه دیگه هم هست، نمیدونم از کدوم نشره دقیقا ولی من این کتاب رو به پیشنهاد فروشنده کوله پشتی خریدم و متن روونی داشت.
اما بذارین از نویسنده اشم براتون بگم که آقای تودنهوفر خبرنگار آلمانی تباره، که بارها و بارها به خاورمیانه سفر میکنه و از نزدیک شاهد جنگ های متعددیه و در هر جنگی که شاهده با دو طرف جنگ صحبت میکنه و ازشون دلیل و استدلال میخواد.
اما این کتاب خیلی جالب تر از این حرفاست و از فصل اول با گفتن تاریخچه شکل گیری داعش که برمیگرده به حضور آمریکایی ها در عراق شروع میکنه و پله پله پیش میره تا به موضوع اصلی برسه که گرفتن امان نامه از ابوبکر بغدادی و رفتن به مقر داعشه.
تودنهوفر با پسرش به صورت غیرقانونی از مرز ترکیه عبور میکنن و جالب ترین نکته کتاب اینجاست که این دونفر با جلاد معروف داعش همسفر میشن ولی خودشون نمی دونستن.
بحث داعش و شکل گیریش موضوعیه که در بیشتر مواقع با جانبداری توضیح داده شده و تشریح میشه اما این کتاب به نظرم اومد که بدون جانبداری باشه.
زمانی که سفر ده روزه تموم میشه و به آلمان برمیگردن، اقای نویسنده نامه ای خطاب به ابوبکر بغدادی می نویسه و با استناد به آیات قرآن، به رهبر داعش میگه که کارش ضد اسلامیه و بهش توصیه میکنه که دست از فعالیت هاش برداره که فصل آخر کتاب، راجع به این نامه است.
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پ.ن: از این کتاب یه ترجمه دیگه هم هست، نمیدونم از کدوم نشره دقیقا ولی من این کتاب رو به پیشنهاد فروشنده کوله پشتی خریدم و متن روونی داشت.
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February 12, 2021In this book, Jordan Todenhöfer describes his efforts as a brave Journalist seeking for the truth and reporting on the (Non-)Islamic state. In December 2014, Todenhöfer embedded with ISIS for 10 days. He got access to the Islamic State after months of Skype negotiations (With a German Jihadist called Abu Qatada) and a public guarantee from ISIS leadership that he would return alive!.
The book shows a deep picture from inside ISIS (A brutal Military group which killed around 30,000 innocents , around 3 times of what Al-Qaeda killed since 2010 till 2014 .
In this book, Todenhöfer tells the story about how the organization grew from its al-Qaeda roots and takes a harsh look at the West’s role in its past and today. Along the way, offers startling insights into what ISIS thinks, what it wants and what must change if it is to be defeated.
The First reaction Todenhöfer got once he entered Mosul, is that it is “ a vibrant, lively city with lots of traffic and countless people in the street, it is not exactly the picture of a terrorist town the way we had imagined” (P 175). And in another page P(172) he says .“If it is not the ISIS flag you wouldn't know we were in a city occupied and governed by ISIS. Mousel looks damn normal to us. Just like other cities in the middle east”. . Nothing looks as though it comes from .“IS Stone Age''. P(181) isn't that the way it is in all totalitarian states?!”..
How does the system look from inside?
The real Capacity of ISIS is around 15,000 to 20, 000 between police officers, Sharia police, administrative judges, fighters. These tens of thousands are controlling territory of 6 million people!.
As one of the fighters (Said Salim/P.45) described to Todenhöfer, ISIS is a dream .“We can get married. You can even live here with kids. It’s just that planes are flying over all the time bombing us. But other than that, we live a completely normal life”.. I think this answer is enough to describe what kind of mentality we are dealing with here. ISIS fighters don't consider themselves as extremists or Terrorists, they are not more than dreamers who want to achieve the Islamic dream, In another way, as Todenhöfer says in the last chapter .“All the terrorists I met maintained they were fighting a nobel war of liberation for their people “Who lie in chains”..
The reality of course looks different, ISIS was never a place where anyone can live in, a place surrounded by fear, violence and blood. A place where civilians inside .“feel safe only once it gets dark except when the Americans start their bombing raids”. (P. 167)
Motivation
You may ask yourself , what is the kind of motivation that lets someone join ISIS?, What is the driven force that makes a young soccer player who played on the German national youth soccer team join ISIS as a fighter?. Or the guy from Trinidad and Tobago , who passed the state law exam in his home country and joined ISIS. Others from Egypt, Syria , Finland, Israel, Sweden, England...etc. After reading the book you will recognize that there is no one answer to this question, there are many (None of them is related to Islam itself). It varies from one to another, some went to help Muslims in Syria and free them from Dictatorship. The guy from Trinidad and Tobago made it clear that he finds the western values empty , tedious. Another Finn and a swede blonde fighter claimed that they came to fight with Kurds . Some have real family issues like Salim, the ISIS Morocon-German fighter who mentioned that he has never met his father, he only lived his whole life with his mother in Germany with a temporary resistance permit , she doesn't even have a passport (P. 44). You have also Christian (Or Abu Qatada) who never had a direct normal relationship with a father, and always felt that he doesn't belong to the society he lived in, even after he converted to islam, he always felt that there is something missing, till he decided to join ISIS with 8 other men from Solingen (The place he grow up in). The reasons also have nothing to do with poverty or with any social discriminations, we have for example an English fighter who is a son of a famous English banker . another one from texas whose father is with the american military. You have also examples like Abu martium (P. 179) who claimed that he fights for IS to protect his religion!. The common thing between all these people is that they don't feel that they fit in their societies for different reasons, and after they joined ISIS the theoretical idea of a state that fits their mind started to grow till it became reality!.
Who Funds all of that?
As Jorgen witnessed during his journey There were fighters carrying American M16, others with German MG3 machine guns. ISIS literally uses arms and ammunition from at least 25 different countries . Among ISIS’s arsenal are portable air defence systems, guided anti-tank missiles and armoured fighting vehicles, as well as assault rifles like the Russian AK series and Bushmaster. These Weapons reached ISIS free of charge!!. They didn't even need to put one cent in any of it.
The truth is, These weapons flooded to Iraq over the years since 2003 since Iraq war, beside that, there were many rebel groups against ISIS or Bashar funded by different powers.
Many of these groups are small and operate on a local level, but a number have emerged as powerful forces with affiliates across the country or formed alliances with other groups that share a similar agenda.
For example:
- The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is funded by the US and Emirates.
- Jabhat Al-Nusra and Ahrar Al-sham are funded by the US and Saudi Arabia.
- The Kurdish Regional Governorate’s (KRG’s) Peshmerga military forces.funded by the US National Defense Authorization
- Other groups in details can be found here Guide to the Syrian rebels
Once ISIS took control over a city, fighters simply seized vehicles and weapons as spoils of war!.
Beside that, the largest source of income for ISIS is from Oil . ISIS SELLS OIL FOR US $12 a barrel. In 2014, Dubai-based energy analysts put the combined oil revenue from ISIL's Iraqi-Syrian production as high as US$3 million per day. An estimate from October 2015 indicated the production to be about 34,000–40,000 barrels per day, sold at US$20–45 at the wellhead and generating an income of US$1.5 million per day. Another 2015 estimate put the monthly income at US$40 million
The Solution for the current situation
In Jorgen’s opinion, Bombing 5000 ISIS fighters in Mosul for example is impossible without killing up to 3 million innocent civilians as victims. That is why the only way to fight against ISIS is to fight with Moderate Arab Sunnis (As they did before in Iraq in 2007). Unfortunately, The Moderate Arab Sunnis in Iraq are currently oppressed and discriminated under the rule of the Iraqi's shia (anti-Sunni) regime. However, In page 245, Todenhöfer claims that “ Many times, sunnis, including Baathists, offered the shias reconciliation and peace in exchange for a return to political life on an equal footing. This will give both of them enough power to fight against IS”
The book in my opinion is a great work, and the good thing about it is Jordan Todenhöfer himself. Todenhöfer is not just a journalist, he knows to whom he is speaking to . For example, The verses he used from from the Quran in his arguments with ISIS fighters along his journey , his explanations in the last two chapters about Islam and Muslims shows that he didn't only read the book but he has a clear understanding of Islam. Beside that, the book is fair, Todenhöfer stands exactly in the middle, he blames both sides and accuses ISIS and the west (Read the last two chapters). He did it in a brave way which I really admire. I will borrow from him the last sentence in the last chapter “ George W Bush killed more than a million people in the war in Iraq alone, this is not supposed to be said publicly in the west , but life is too short to keep talking around the truth”.
I would actually give 5/5 stars to this book
The book shows a deep picture from inside ISIS (A brutal Military group which killed around 30,000 innocents , around 3 times of what Al-Qaeda killed since 2010 till 2014 .
In this book, Todenhöfer tells the story about how the organization grew from its al-Qaeda roots and takes a harsh look at the West’s role in its past and today. Along the way, offers startling insights into what ISIS thinks, what it wants and what must change if it is to be defeated.
The First reaction Todenhöfer got once he entered Mosul, is that it is “ a vibrant, lively city with lots of traffic and countless people in the street, it is not exactly the picture of a terrorist town the way we had imagined” (P 175). And in another page P(172) he says .“If it is not the ISIS flag you wouldn't know we were in a city occupied and governed by ISIS. Mousel looks damn normal to us. Just like other cities in the middle east”. . Nothing looks as though it comes from .“IS Stone Age''. P(181) isn't that the way it is in all totalitarian states?!”..
How does the system look from inside?
The real Capacity of ISIS is around 15,000 to 20, 000 between police officers, Sharia police, administrative judges, fighters. These tens of thousands are controlling territory of 6 million people!.
As one of the fighters (Said Salim/P.45) described to Todenhöfer, ISIS is a dream .“We can get married. You can even live here with kids. It’s just that planes are flying over all the time bombing us. But other than that, we live a completely normal life”.. I think this answer is enough to describe what kind of mentality we are dealing with here. ISIS fighters don't consider themselves as extremists or Terrorists, they are not more than dreamers who want to achieve the Islamic dream, In another way, as Todenhöfer says in the last chapter .“All the terrorists I met maintained they were fighting a nobel war of liberation for their people “Who lie in chains”..
The reality of course looks different, ISIS was never a place where anyone can live in, a place surrounded by fear, violence and blood. A place where civilians inside .“feel safe only once it gets dark except when the Americans start their bombing raids”. (P. 167)
Motivation
You may ask yourself , what is the kind of motivation that lets someone join ISIS?, What is the driven force that makes a young soccer player who played on the German national youth soccer team join ISIS as a fighter?. Or the guy from Trinidad and Tobago , who passed the state law exam in his home country and joined ISIS. Others from Egypt, Syria , Finland, Israel, Sweden, England...etc. After reading the book you will recognize that there is no one answer to this question, there are many (None of them is related to Islam itself). It varies from one to another, some went to help Muslims in Syria and free them from Dictatorship. The guy from Trinidad and Tobago made it clear that he finds the western values empty , tedious. Another Finn and a swede blonde fighter claimed that they came to fight with Kurds . Some have real family issues like Salim, the ISIS Morocon-German fighter who mentioned that he has never met his father, he only lived his whole life with his mother in Germany with a temporary resistance permit , she doesn't even have a passport (P. 44). You have also Christian (Or Abu Qatada) who never had a direct normal relationship with a father, and always felt that he doesn't belong to the society he lived in, even after he converted to islam, he always felt that there is something missing, till he decided to join ISIS with 8 other men from Solingen (The place he grow up in). The reasons also have nothing to do with poverty or with any social discriminations, we have for example an English fighter who is a son of a famous English banker . another one from texas whose father is with the american military. You have also examples like Abu martium (P. 179) who claimed that he fights for IS to protect his religion!. The common thing between all these people is that they don't feel that they fit in their societies for different reasons, and after they joined ISIS the theoretical idea of a state that fits their mind started to grow till it became reality!.
Who Funds all of that?
As Jorgen witnessed during his journey There were fighters carrying American M16, others with German MG3 machine guns. ISIS literally uses arms and ammunition from at least 25 different countries . Among ISIS’s arsenal are portable air defence systems, guided anti-tank missiles and armoured fighting vehicles, as well as assault rifles like the Russian AK series and Bushmaster. These Weapons reached ISIS free of charge!!. They didn't even need to put one cent in any of it.
The truth is, These weapons flooded to Iraq over the years since 2003 since Iraq war, beside that, there were many rebel groups against ISIS or Bashar funded by different powers.
Many of these groups are small and operate on a local level, but a number have emerged as powerful forces with affiliates across the country or formed alliances with other groups that share a similar agenda.
For example:
- The Free Syrian Army (FSA) is funded by the US and Emirates.
- Jabhat Al-Nusra and Ahrar Al-sham are funded by the US and Saudi Arabia.
- The Kurdish Regional Governorate’s (KRG’s) Peshmerga military forces.funded by the US National Defense Authorization
- Other groups in details can be found here Guide to the Syrian rebels
Once ISIS took control over a city, fighters simply seized vehicles and weapons as spoils of war!.
Beside that, the largest source of income for ISIS is from Oil . ISIS SELLS OIL FOR US $12 a barrel. In 2014, Dubai-based energy analysts put the combined oil revenue from ISIL's Iraqi-Syrian production as high as US$3 million per day. An estimate from October 2015 indicated the production to be about 34,000–40,000 barrels per day, sold at US$20–45 at the wellhead and generating an income of US$1.5 million per day. Another 2015 estimate put the monthly income at US$40 million
The Solution for the current situation
In Jorgen’s opinion, Bombing 5000 ISIS fighters in Mosul for example is impossible without killing up to 3 million innocent civilians as victims. That is why the only way to fight against ISIS is to fight with Moderate Arab Sunnis (As they did before in Iraq in 2007). Unfortunately, The Moderate Arab Sunnis in Iraq are currently oppressed and discriminated under the rule of the Iraqi's shia (anti-Sunni) regime. However, In page 245, Todenhöfer claims that “ Many times, sunnis, including Baathists, offered the shias reconciliation and peace in exchange for a return to political life on an equal footing. This will give both of them enough power to fight against IS”
The book in my opinion is a great work, and the good thing about it is Jordan Todenhöfer himself. Todenhöfer is not just a journalist, he knows to whom he is speaking to . For example, The verses he used from from the Quran in his arguments with ISIS fighters along his journey , his explanations in the last two chapters about Islam and Muslims shows that he didn't only read the book but he has a clear understanding of Islam. Beside that, the book is fair, Todenhöfer stands exactly in the middle, he blames both sides and accuses ISIS and the west (Read the last two chapters). He did it in a brave way which I really admire. I will borrow from him the last sentence in the last chapter “ George W Bush killed more than a million people in the war in Iraq alone, this is not supposed to be said publicly in the west , but life is too short to keep talking around the truth”.
I would actually give 5/5 stars to this book
May 17, 2021
"IS er en morderisk terrororganisation. Dens eksistens kan forklares, men aldrig retfærdiggøres."
Med dette citat afslutter Jürgen de sidste sider af sin fremragende reportage. For IS's eksistens kan nemlig godt forklares, og den vestlige verdens krigsførelse i Mellemøsten bærer en stor del af skylden. Dermed ikke samtidig sagt, at den brutalitet vi se fra IS er acceptabel, ligeså lidt som enkeltstående vestlige terroristers brutalitet er det.
Under Jürgens rejse får man en indsigt i de tanker, der går igennem hovederne på de mennesker, som af den ene eller anden grund, har tilsluttet sig IS, mest af alt dem, der er opvokset i Europa. Det er skræmmende læsning, og indoktrinering fra sin værste side, hvor folkemord omtales som legitimt i Allahs navn.
Jürgen gør meget ud af at understrege, at den islam som IS praktisere kun er en brøkdel af den islam der praktiseres i verden i dag, men ikke desto mindre ser vi, hvordan Sharia får lov til at tage over flere og flere steder.
Jeg tager hatten af for Jürgen og hans søns, samt sønnens kammerat, der turde at bevæge sig ind på fjendens territorium, og dokumentere hvor organiseret IS rent faktisk er.
Spændende læsning, som giver et nuanceret syn på IS, terrorisme og samspillet mellem den arabiske verden og den vestlige verden.
Med dette citat afslutter Jürgen de sidste sider af sin fremragende reportage. For IS's eksistens kan nemlig godt forklares, og den vestlige verdens krigsførelse i Mellemøsten bærer en stor del af skylden. Dermed ikke samtidig sagt, at den brutalitet vi se fra IS er acceptabel, ligeså lidt som enkeltstående vestlige terroristers brutalitet er det.
Under Jürgens rejse får man en indsigt i de tanker, der går igennem hovederne på de mennesker, som af den ene eller anden grund, har tilsluttet sig IS, mest af alt dem, der er opvokset i Europa. Det er skræmmende læsning, og indoktrinering fra sin værste side, hvor folkemord omtales som legitimt i Allahs navn.
Jürgen gør meget ud af at understrege, at den islam som IS praktisere kun er en brøkdel af den islam der praktiseres i verden i dag, men ikke desto mindre ser vi, hvordan Sharia får lov til at tage over flere og flere steder.
Jeg tager hatten af for Jürgen og hans søns, samt sønnens kammerat, der turde at bevæge sig ind på fjendens territorium, og dokumentere hvor organiseret IS rent faktisk er.
Spændende læsning, som giver et nuanceret syn på IS, terrorisme og samspillet mellem den arabiske verden og den vestlige verden.
April 1, 2020
این کتاب شامل گزارش مشاهدات یک روزنامهنگار آلمانی از شهرهای رقه و موصل در زمان سیطره داعش بر این نقاط است. نویسنده سفرهای زیادی به سرزمینهای جنگزده خاورمیانه و آفریقا داشته و نگاهش به اسلام نیزمثبت ارزیابی میشود. وی به شدت با افراط گرایی داعش مخالف است و با ارائه چهره غیرواقعی از اسلام به جهانیان توسط این گروه مخالفت میورزد؛ با این حال نویسنده (به روش کاملا علمی)گزارشها و مصاحبهها را عینا نقل کرده و تصرفی در آنها ندارد.
در مورد محتوای کتاب میتوان گفت دادههایی که این کتاب درمورد اعتقادات مذهبی داعش ارائه میدهد کاملا قابل استناد است؛ با این حال واقعیتهایی هم در مورد روابط سیاسی و نظامی داعش با غرب وجود دارد که داعشیها در این مصاحبهها منکر آن میشوند و البته دلیل آن نیز ارائه چهره مستقل و پرقدرت از این گروه به جهانیان میباشد.
بر همین اساس خواندن کتاب Hard Choices هیلاری کلینتون بعد از این کتاب توصیه میشود.
در مورد محتوای کتاب میتوان گفت دادههایی که این کتاب درمورد اعتقادات مذهبی داعش ارائه میدهد کاملا قابل استناد است؛ با این حال واقعیتهایی هم در مورد روابط سیاسی و نظامی داعش با غرب وجود دارد که داعشیها در این مصاحبهها منکر آن میشوند و البته دلیل آن نیز ارائه چهره مستقل و پرقدرت از این گروه به جهانیان میباشد.
بر همین اساس خواندن کتاب Hard Choices هیلاری کلینتون بعد از این کتاب توصیه میشود.
July 12, 2016
ممتاز الكتاب، يكتب تدنهوفر رحلته داخل أراضي تنظيم الدولة الإسلامية "داعش" في سورية والعراق. الكتاب يسرد تفاصيل الرحلة ويومياته، بالإضافة إلى لقاءات مطولة مع أعضاء في تنظيم داعش.
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May 31, 2016
Fuck ISIS
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