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She Likes Gays, But Not Me (Manga) #1
Io e Mr. Fahrenheit: She likes homo, not me, Vol. 1
Un ragazzo colpevole di nutrire sentimenti proibiti.
Una ragazza che nasconde un segreto. E un incontro.
Tutta la differenza tra come il mondo ci vuole e ciò che siamo veramente.
Il romanzo di Naoto Asahara che viaggia sulle potenti note dei Queen si sposa con la letteratura disegnata in un manga che dona alla vicenda di Jun Ando nuove sfumature.
Edizione italiana a cura di Elena Zanzi
Lettering: Lara Iacucci
Una ragazza che nasconde un segreto. E un incontro.
Tutta la differenza tra come il mondo ci vuole e ciò che siamo veramente.
Il romanzo di Naoto Asahara che viaggia sulle potenti note dei Queen si sposa con la letteratura disegnata in un manga che dona alla vicenda di Jun Ando nuove sfumature.
Edizione italiana a cura di Elena Zanzi
Lettering: Lara Iacucci
200 pages, Paperback
First published May 2, 2019
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About the author
Naoto Asahara
5 books6 followersName (in native language) : 浅原 ナオト
Naoto Asahara is a Japanese author of Light novels. He started publishing his works on Kakuyomu, a Japanese online publishing platform.
His first novel in paper format is 彼女が好きなものはホモであって僕ではない [Kanojo ga Suki na Mono wa Homo deatte Boku de wa nai], published by Kadokawa on February 2018. Stunning success, this novel was adapted in April 2019 into a TV series, on the NHK channel, and also into a manga.
Naoto Asahara is a Japanese author of Light novels. He started publishing his works on Kakuyomu, a Japanese online publishing platform.
His first novel in paper format is 彼女が好きなものはホモであって僕ではない [Kanojo ga Suki na Mono wa Homo deatte Boku de wa nai], published by Kadokawa on February 2018. Stunning success, this novel was adapted in April 2019 into a TV series, on the NHK channel, and also into a manga.
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October 15, 2024
I picked this up from the library based on the odd title and a cover image that seemed to promise some sort of odd teen romance or friendship.
"Don't judge a book by its cover" applies here in full force. Oh, but I sometimes regret my habit of not reading a book's description and/or back cover before diving in.
This is a depressing and frustrating teen drama crammed full with homophobia, infidelity, an age gap relationship, HIV, and suicide. Closeted teen Jun Andou is flailing about in his life, troubled that he cannot live an openly gay life, ashamed about his desires, and jealous of straight people who get to have a life of marriage and children. Already involved with an older, married man, when he is faced with a girl who may like him, he chooses what he himself calls the "jerk route" and keeps his real self a secret while pursuing a romantic relationship with her. As if all that's not enough, he also has an online friend who brings another keg of misery to the party.
It hurts to watch a hurting person hurt an another person.
I read this too soon after the similar and equally upsetting Parallel by Matthias Lehmann. That book was able to win me over in the end, so I may come back to this series to read the final two volumes, but I'm not eager to do that right at this moment.
Note: This is the first volume of a three-part manga adaptation of the first novel in a prose series of the same name by the same author. I have not read the novel.
"Don't judge a book by its cover" applies here in full force. Oh, but I sometimes regret my habit of not reading a book's description and/or back cover before diving in.
This is a depressing and frustrating teen drama crammed full with homophobia, infidelity, an age gap relationship, HIV, and suicide. Closeted teen Jun Andou is flailing about in his life, troubled that he cannot live an openly gay life, ashamed about his desires, and jealous of straight people who get to have a life of marriage and children. Already involved with an older, married man, when he is faced with a girl who may like him, he chooses what he himself calls the "jerk route" and keeps his real self a secret while pursuing a romantic relationship with her. As if all that's not enough, he also has an online friend who brings another keg of misery to the party.
It hurts to watch a hurting person hurt an another person.
I read this too soon after the similar and equally upsetting Parallel by Matthias Lehmann. That book was able to win me over in the end, so I may come back to this series to read the final two volumes, but I'm not eager to do that right at this moment.
Note: This is the first volume of a three-part manga adaptation of the first novel in a prose series of the same name by the same author. I have not read the novel.
January 22, 2022
Ein wirklich guter Manga der viel über den Umgang mit Homosexualität in Japan offenbart. Mir hat gut gefalle wie mit vielen Vorurteilen umgegangen wird. Es gab ein paar Aufklärungsaspekte aber hierbei wurde genau die richtige Menge gefunden.
May 20, 2024
The title for this is ridiculous, so I wasn’t expecting much.
However, it ended up being an extremely serious manga. It covers the conflicting feelings someone may feel when they realize they feel nothing for the opposite sex. It also covers the feelings of disgust and the longing someone may feel to be “”normal.””
Being queer myself, that feeling really hit home. I also spent years rejecting who I was and trying to fit in. Beyond that though, there’s some disturbing themes going on. Aka a relationship between a highschool boy and an older man. It’s gross and predatory… this story can either be very good and informative or bad. I’m interested to see how the mc handles things going forward. He has two options after all… Accepting who he is or living a lie.
There’s also undertones of more serious problems pertaining to HIV and suicide. So read only if you’re okay with that.
However, it ended up being an extremely serious manga. It covers the conflicting feelings someone may feel when they realize they feel nothing for the opposite sex. It also covers the feelings of disgust and the longing someone may feel to be “”normal.””
Being queer myself, that feeling really hit home. I also spent years rejecting who I was and trying to fit in. Beyond that though, there’s some disturbing themes going on. Aka a relationship between a highschool boy and an older man. It’s gross and predatory… this story can either be very good and informative or bad. I’m interested to see how the mc handles things going forward. He has two options after all… Accepting who he is or living a lie.
There’s also undertones of more serious problems pertaining to HIV and suicide. So read only if you’re okay with that.
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April 3, 2022
~*See below for review in English*~
04.2022:
4 Sterne für die ganze Reihe.
Nur ein paar, allgemeine Gedanken zu Band 1-3: Zunächst wollte ich den Manga gar nicht lesen, weil mich der Titel irgendwie abgeschreckt hat, aber ich konnte ihn dann gebraucht kaufen und bin froh, dass ich ihn nun doch gelesen habe, auch wenn die Geschichte überwiegend schon ganz schön harter Tobak war. Einige der Themen, die hier behandelt werden sind schwierig, aber wichtig. Der Manga ist eine Slice-of-Life, Coming-of-age Geschichte mit LGBTQIA+-Thematik und kein BL-Titel.
Jun als Charakter fand ich gut gelungen, seine Zerissenheit und Verzweiflung waren spürbar, nachvollziehbar und fühlten sich für mich realistisch an - so sehr, dass mich seine ganze Lage wirklich extrem mitgenommen hat (und ganz besonders seine Beziehung zu und das Schicksal von Mr. Fahrenheit).
Sae mochte ich im Großen und Ganzen auch, auch wenn sie sich teilweise sehr unangenehm verhalten hat: zum Beispiel, dass sie (und ihre Freundin) ihre Liebe für BL auch auf reale Männer projiziert hat - ein Problem, welches auch im echten Leben besteht und daher in der Darstellung zwar durchaus realistisch sein kann, aber kritisch ist. Dies war auch, was ich hinter den Titel so ein bisschen vermutet hatte und weswegen ich auch gezögert habe. Letztendlich ist dies aber nur ein Teil einer Geschichte, in der es um sehr viel mehr geht.
Themen / Inhaltswarnungen (Liste ggf. nicht vollständig):
- Selbstfindung
- (Selbst-)Akzeptanz
~*~*~*~*~
4 stars for the series as a whole.
Just a few general thoughts on volumes 1-3: At first I didn't want to read the manga at all because the title kind of put me off, but then I was able to buy it second-hand and I'm glad I read it now, even though most of the story was pretty heavy stuff. Some of the issues dealt with here are difficult but important. The manga is a slice-of-life, coming-of-age story with LGBTQIA+ themes, not a BL Manga.
Jun as a character I think was well done, his inner conflict and desperation were palpable, understandable, and felt realistic to me - so much so that I was really moved by his whole situation (and especially his relationship with and the fate of Mr. Fahrenheit).
Sae I also liked for the most part, even if some of her behaviour was questionable. For example, her (and her friend's) projection of her love for BL onto real men - a problem that exists in real life as well, so while it's realistic in its portrayal, the behaviour's not okay. This was also what I somewhat suspected was behind the title and why I was hesitant to pick it up. In the end, however, this is only one part of a story that is about much more.
Themes/content warnings (list may not be complete):
- self-discovery
- (self-)acceptance
04.2022:
4 Sterne für die ganze Reihe.
Nur ein paar, allgemeine Gedanken zu Band 1-3: Zunächst wollte ich den Manga gar nicht lesen, weil mich der Titel irgendwie abgeschreckt hat, aber ich konnte ihn dann gebraucht kaufen und bin froh, dass ich ihn nun doch gelesen habe, auch wenn die Geschichte überwiegend schon ganz schön harter Tobak war. Einige der Themen, die hier behandelt werden sind schwierig, aber wichtig. Der Manga ist eine Slice-of-Life, Coming-of-age Geschichte mit LGBTQIA+-Thematik und kein BL-Titel.
Jun als Charakter fand ich gut gelungen, seine Zerissenheit und Verzweiflung waren spürbar, nachvollziehbar und fühlten sich für mich realistisch an - so sehr, dass mich seine ganze Lage wirklich extrem mitgenommen hat (und ganz besonders seine Beziehung zu und das Schicksal von Mr. Fahrenheit).
Sae mochte ich im Großen und Ganzen auch, auch wenn sie sich teilweise sehr unangenehm verhalten hat: zum Beispiel, dass sie (und ihre Freundin) ihre Liebe für BL auch auf reale Männer projiziert hat - ein Problem, welches auch im echten Leben besteht und daher in der Darstellung zwar durchaus realistisch sein kann, aber kritisch ist. Dies war auch, was ich hinter den Titel so ein bisschen vermutet hatte und weswegen ich auch gezögert habe. Letztendlich ist dies aber nur ein Teil einer Geschichte, in der es um sehr viel mehr geht.
Themen / Inhaltswarnungen (Liste ggf. nicht vollständig):
- Selbstfindung
- (Selbst-)Akzeptanz
~*~*~*~*~
4 stars for the series as a whole.
Just a few general thoughts on volumes 1-3: At first I didn't want to read the manga at all because the title kind of put me off, but then I was able to buy it second-hand and I'm glad I read it now, even though most of the story was pretty heavy stuff. Some of the issues dealt with here are difficult but important. The manga is a slice-of-life, coming-of-age story with LGBTQIA+ themes, not a BL Manga.
Jun as a character I think was well done, his inner conflict and desperation were palpable, understandable, and felt realistic to me - so much so that I was really moved by his whole situation (and especially his relationship with and the fate of Mr. Fahrenheit).
Sae I also liked for the most part, even if some of her behaviour was questionable. For example, her (and her friend's) projection of her love for BL onto real men - a problem that exists in real life as well, so while it's realistic in its portrayal, the behaviour's not okay. This was also what I somewhat suspected was behind the title and why I was hesitant to pick it up. In the end, however, this is only one part of a story that is about much more.
Themes/content warnings (list may not be complete):
- self-discovery
- (self-)acceptance
May 26, 2024
Well, that was incredibly depressing.
It's...good storytelling? I certainly felt Jun's emotions at the end, particularly regarding his online, HIV-positive friend, Mr. Fahrenheit. And while I do expect the next two (?) volumes to wrap things up in similarly thought-provoking, gut-wrenching ways, I don't have that much desire to read it. I don't know. I think I'm just really past tragic gay storylines, and I'm a little frustrated with myself for wavering and not cancelling my preorder.
Jun is also a really difficult main character. There's an incredible amount of self-loathing, massive internalized homophobia, and a deep-rooted sense that being gay means being ostracized by society and unable to ever have a "normal" family life. He's pretty much decided to stay closeted, to continue sleeping with men, but to find a woman with whom to have children and a home. That's the only way he sees to fulfill both of the things he wants in life.
Part of this is probably because the man he's currently sleeping with embodies this lifestyle: he's 30 years older and has a wife and kids and no intention of ever changing that. There's some interesting stuff in there about the bat not fitting into the world of the birds or the mammals - as an allegory for being a closeted gay man with a wife who will eventually be left out of a world where straight and gay finally get along. While they see the world changing, and heading in that more inclusive direction, they aren't ready to choose a side just yet.
Jun also has no network to help him figure any of these things out. He's out to the older married men he's been sleeping with, to Mr. Fahrenheit (but no one else on any online messageboards), and to the woman who runs the bar where he and his "boyfriend" meet up. That's it. And since Mr. Fahrenheit (spoilers for volumes past this one, which I read about on wikipedia) , he's quite frankly been receiving incredibly terrible advice from everyone.
There is such a sense of isolation and self-hatred throughout this volume; I don't recommend it for anyone feeling wobbly with their emotions, really. I also get the impression it'd be pretty important to read the whole thing in one go, because this volume ends on a very dark note that's left dangling until...whenever the final volume's out in print in English.
I'm not saying there aren't important messages in this series. There are. I think I'm just too old and sad to be the right audience for it anymore.
The whole relationship between Jun and his girlfriend, Miura, bothered me, too. Art aside - the gigantic balloon breasts were wildly excessive - it's just an awful situation for both of them to be in. Jun knows from the start that he's being cruel to her by agreeing to date, and he certainly did not have to come out to her in order to turn her down. He even had an easy out because his childhood best friend was in love with her, so he could've played the bro card. But no. I honestly think he treated her horribly.
A lot of people in this volume were terrible, though. Like Miura's fujoshi friend's homophobic boyfriend, who worried about getting AIDS from sharing an onsen with gay men, and thought even sitting next to one was gross.
Realistic people, yeah. But hard to read.
The one thing I would've liked to see would be Jun's support network expanding once he does eventually come out - or is outed, which I think is more accurate from what I've seen. It sounds like his mom and his best friend, and eventually Miura, all back him up. I'd like to see more of his friend, especially, who seems like a kind person who might've understood earlier.
So maybe I'll try getting the other volume(s) from the library eventually. But I don't know. I kind of want to be reading happier stories about people who don't have to feel miserable about their own existence.
It's...good storytelling? I certainly felt Jun's emotions at the end, particularly regarding his online, HIV-positive friend, Mr. Fahrenheit. And while I do expect the next two (?) volumes to wrap things up in similarly thought-provoking, gut-wrenching ways, I don't have that much desire to read it. I don't know. I think I'm just really past tragic gay storylines, and I'm a little frustrated with myself for wavering and not cancelling my preorder.
Jun is also a really difficult main character. There's an incredible amount of self-loathing, massive internalized homophobia, and a deep-rooted sense that being gay means being ostracized by society and unable to ever have a "normal" family life. He's pretty much decided to stay closeted, to continue sleeping with men, but to find a woman with whom to have children and a home. That's the only way he sees to fulfill both of the things he wants in life.
Part of this is probably because the man he's currently sleeping with embodies this lifestyle: he's 30 years older and has a wife and kids and no intention of ever changing that. There's some interesting stuff in there about the bat not fitting into the world of the birds or the mammals - as an allegory for being a closeted gay man with a wife who will eventually be left out of a world where straight and gay finally get along. While they see the world changing, and heading in that more inclusive direction, they aren't ready to choose a side just yet.
Jun also has no network to help him figure any of these things out. He's out to the older married men he's been sleeping with, to Mr. Fahrenheit (but no one else on any online messageboards), and to the woman who runs the bar where he and his "boyfriend" meet up. That's it. And since Mr. Fahrenheit (spoilers for volumes past this one, which I read about on wikipedia) , he's quite frankly been receiving incredibly terrible advice from everyone.
There is such a sense of isolation and self-hatred throughout this volume; I don't recommend it for anyone feeling wobbly with their emotions, really. I also get the impression it'd be pretty important to read the whole thing in one go, because this volume ends on a very dark note that's left dangling until...whenever the final volume's out in print in English.
I'm not saying there aren't important messages in this series. There are. I think I'm just too old and sad to be the right audience for it anymore.
The whole relationship between Jun and his girlfriend, Miura, bothered me, too. Art aside - the gigantic balloon breasts were wildly excessive - it's just an awful situation for both of them to be in. Jun knows from the start that he's being cruel to her by agreeing to date, and he certainly did not have to come out to her in order to turn her down. He even had an easy out because his childhood best friend was in love with her, so he could've played the bro card. But no. I honestly think he treated her horribly.
A lot of people in this volume were terrible, though. Like Miura's fujoshi friend's homophobic boyfriend, who worried about getting AIDS from sharing an onsen with gay men, and thought even sitting next to one was gross.
Realistic people, yeah. But hard to read.
The one thing I would've liked to see would be Jun's support network expanding once he does eventually come out - or is outed, which I think is more accurate from what I've seen. It sounds like his mom and his best friend, and eventually Miura, all back him up. I'd like to see more of his friend, especially, who seems like a kind person who might've understood earlier.
So maybe I'll try getting the other volume(s) from the library eventually. But I don't know. I kind of want to be reading happier stories about people who don't have to feel miserable about their own existence.
December 28, 2024
I think I found a new sub genre in manga: self discovery through BL. Though, honestly, I don’t know why I’m so surprised by that because it’s exactly the path I took. I discovered a lot of my queerness through slash fandom with 90's shows like Xena: Warrior Princess, Sailor Moon and countless other shows and I still find ways to express and understand myself through the manga and queer media I consume. Still it’s really nice to see that journey portrayed in what I consume, even if it’s not always pretty. Though, to be fair Jun doesn't actually read any BL, instead he’s presented with a chance at ‘normality’ because of it? Maybe? It becomes a very interesting mirror held up to his life comparing expectations and 'reality.'...
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Read the full review at Well, Are They? A Queer Review Blog:
https://wellarethey.blogspot.com/2024...
August 11, 2020
I really liked this one. I could see how the main character could annoy people though. He doesn't make the best decisions throughout the story. While this can be frustrating, his decision all make sense. None of his choices seem out of character or come out of nowhere. This one also made me cry, I don't think I ugly cried, but I did shed a few tears.
November 19, 2021
She likes gay boys but not me ist mal wieder einer dieser Titel, bei denen mir so viel durch de Kopf geht, dass ich mich überhaupt nicht sortieren kann.
Ich empfinde es als sehr interessant Juns inneren Konflikt mitzuverfolgen. Denn er selbst hat so widersprüchliche Wünsche und Gefühle, dass er einige fehlgeleitete Entscheidungen trifft. Dass er sich dessen auch bewusst ist, macht Jun erst recht zu einem greifbaren Protagonisten.
Der einzige, mit dem er offenen reden kann, ist eine anonyme Internet Bekanntschaft, die viele sehr gute Fragen an Jun richtet und selbst eine dramatische Geschichte durchleben musste, die einen schon ganz schön überrumpeln kann. Dennoch ich werde das Gefühl nicht los, dass mir dieser Handlungsstrang bekannt vorkommt. Nur woher, ich habe keinen Schimmer.
Es gibt irgendwie drei Handlungsstränge, die von Jun ausgehen und seine Geschichte voranbringen. Und ich habe so ein leises Gefühl, dass das Märchen der feigen Fledermaus, welches in Band erwähnt wird noch Wahrheit werden wird.
Insgesamt hat mir der erste der drei Bände sehr gut gefallen, es gibt viel was mich aufgewühlt habt, vor allem, weil mich Juns handeln einerseits mitfühlen lässt und andererseits sehr wütend macht. Ich bin schon sehr gespannt, wohin seine Reise noch führt und ob er es schaffen kann, sich selbst zu akzeptieren.
Ich empfinde es als sehr interessant Juns inneren Konflikt mitzuverfolgen. Denn er selbst hat so widersprüchliche Wünsche und Gefühle, dass er einige fehlgeleitete Entscheidungen trifft. Dass er sich dessen auch bewusst ist, macht Jun erst recht zu einem greifbaren Protagonisten.
Der einzige, mit dem er offenen reden kann, ist eine anonyme Internet Bekanntschaft, die viele sehr gute Fragen an Jun richtet und selbst eine dramatische Geschichte durchleben musste, die einen schon ganz schön überrumpeln kann. Dennoch ich werde das Gefühl nicht los, dass mir dieser Handlungsstrang bekannt vorkommt. Nur woher, ich habe keinen Schimmer.
Es gibt irgendwie drei Handlungsstränge, die von Jun ausgehen und seine Geschichte voranbringen. Und ich habe so ein leises Gefühl, dass das Märchen der feigen Fledermaus, welches in Band erwähnt wird noch Wahrheit werden wird.
Insgesamt hat mir der erste der drei Bände sehr gut gefallen, es gibt viel was mich aufgewühlt habt, vor allem, weil mich Juns handeln einerseits mitfühlen lässt und andererseits sehr wütend macht. Ich bin schon sehr gespannt, wohin seine Reise noch führt und ob er es schaffen kann, sich selbst zu akzeptieren.
May 2, 2024
"Junete, ¿te acuerdas de que una vez que me dieron calabazas estuviste consolando en el parque?
—Es verdad
—Me gustaría que volvieras a consolarme, Junete... Aunque me hayas robado a la chica que me gusta."
Qué bonita historia, al principio uno piensa que la trama será adolescente, con mucha comedia y un poco de romanticismo cliché. Pero no es es así.
Es una historia profunda, con personajes reales que tienen problemas y que van de la mano de temas muy fuertes.
Este es el solo el primer tomo adaptado de la novela y les puedo decir que desde el inicio... Una ya esta llorando 🤧
—Es verdad
—Me gustaría que volvieras a consolarme, Junete... Aunque me hayas robado a la chica que me gusta."
Qué bonita historia, al principio uno piensa que la trama será adolescente, con mucha comedia y un poco de romanticismo cliché. Pero no es es así.
Es una historia profunda, con personajes reales que tienen problemas y que van de la mano de temas muy fuertes.
Este es el solo el primer tomo adaptado de la novela y les puedo decir que desde el inicio... Una ya esta llorando 🤧
July 9, 2024
I genuinely did not expect this one to get as dark as it was. I also was expecting a totally different story but regardless I’m hooked! this is very interesting and deals with rather heavy subjects. Definitely a series that will stick with me.
December 11, 2024
A sad, upsetting look at internalized homophobia and self-loathing as teenaged Jun passes for straight at school, where the guys are typically gross and casually homophobic teen boys (one of his buddies' signature greetings is to sneak up behind Jun and grab him by the crotch -_-), while secretly having an affair with a middle-aged married man on weekends, hoping he can someday have a respectable white-picket-fence future with home and kids of his own but knowing to do that he'd have to have a relationship (and sex) with a woman...except he can't force his body to respond to women. When he bumps into a female classmate buying BL manga (raunchy gay romance manga aimed at female audiences) he wonders if maybe a gay guy *could* be accepted...but it soon becomes apparent that the BL fangirls are fetishizing gay guys for their own entertainment, rather than accepting them as three-dimensional people - talking about them like some rare, exotic species that they 'obviously' have never encountered ("Hello, there's one right here...").
I was put off for the first bit with the clearly exploitative affair and even the lesbian bartender 'friend' giving him just as much creepy boy-toy treatment at one point while you're thinking 'noooo dammit protect your baby-gay!', and by the crotch-grabbing friend (omg quit it already!), but by the second half when we get into Jun's conversations with his older, wiser chat-room friend, we get more dimension to him and his internal struggles. Jun, being a teen, makes some selfish and immature decisions, but he is *a teen* so they're believable in that light, and he does think about them after the fact and beat himself up about some of them, with internalized homophobia telling him he doesn't deserve any better. His fear of being rejected holds him back from coming out to friends who might help him feel better about himself. The dehumanizing way he views girls/women as tools for his dream of having kids is upsetting, especially considering the way he sees other guys dehumanizing gay people (therefore HIM), but again he's still an immature teenager, so there is the possibility that he might still grow into a decent human being with some experience and maturity.
This is a difficult read for many reasons, but a realistic look inside a troubled teen's head, and I think I will look into vol.2, if only to find out what happens with his chat-room friend.
Content concerns: glimpses of explicit scenes in the girl's BL manga, in straight porn Jun watches to try to 'train' himself to respond to female bodies, and scenes of Jun having his affair with a creepy adult man; homophobia (so, SO much casual homophobia -_-), casual misogyny (using women for one's own gain, horny teen boys being gross), internalized homophobia, self-loathing, thoughts of self-harm/suicide, mention of HIV/AIDS and related deaths; fake relationships, exploitative relationships, controlling relationships; female characters drawn in sexualizing ways (ugh, why does *everyone* have balloon-boobs)
I was put off for the first bit with the clearly exploitative affair and even the lesbian bartender 'friend' giving him just as much creepy boy-toy treatment at one point while you're thinking 'noooo dammit protect your baby-gay!', and by the crotch-grabbing friend (omg quit it already!), but by the second half when we get into Jun's conversations with his older, wiser chat-room friend, we get more dimension to him and his internal struggles. Jun, being a teen, makes some selfish and immature decisions, but he is *a teen* so they're believable in that light, and he does think about them after the fact and beat himself up about some of them, with internalized homophobia telling him he doesn't deserve any better. His fear of being rejected holds him back from coming out to friends who might help him feel better about himself. The dehumanizing way he views girls/women as tools for his dream of having kids is upsetting, especially considering the way he sees other guys dehumanizing gay people (therefore HIM), but again he's still an immature teenager, so there is the possibility that he might still grow into a decent human being with some experience and maturity.
This is a difficult read for many reasons, but a realistic look inside a troubled teen's head, and I think I will look into vol.2, if only to find out what happens with his chat-room friend.
Content concerns: glimpses of explicit scenes in the girl's BL manga, in straight porn Jun watches to try to 'train' himself to respond to female bodies, and scenes of Jun having his affair with a creepy adult man; homophobia (so, SO much casual homophobia -_-), casual misogyny (using women for one's own gain, horny teen boys being gross), internalized homophobia, self-loathing, thoughts of self-harm/suicide, mention of HIV/AIDS and related deaths; fake relationships, exploitative relationships, controlling relationships; female characters drawn in sexualizing ways (ugh, why does *everyone* have balloon-boobs)
October 14, 2024
I understand the MMC as being LGBTQ in society is hard and super confusing. However, I don't like his character at all and I think it's intentional. He's a gay teenager living in Japan which has more homophobia than the U.S. and is struggling to come to terms with how his sexuality will determine the outcome of how society and his relationships will treat him. In no way do I excuse his actions but I can see why he's reluctant on coming out.
I do feel disgusted by the added grooming elements... like why was that added? What purpose does it hold? To make us feel more pity for the MMC? Why? If anything it makes me dislike the author and the character even more. However, if its supposed to symbolize real life... I suppose I get it but not really though because why is a old man going after a high schooler? A pedo is in no way relatable, gay or not. it's just gross.
Then there's also the added element of the MMCs girlfriend (idrc to remember any character names because I didn't like the manga) as there's the added issue of women oversexualizing gay men and projecting fantasies onto them. I appreciate how to author comes across it because reading gay romances isn't a bad thing at all but when people are projecting those stereotypes onto real people, it demonizes them and creates a whole new issue within the LGBTQ community. I hope to see more of that in future volumes, if I even decide to pick those up but if I see it up on edelweiss.... than maybe.
Overall rating: 2.5/5
I do feel disgusted by the added grooming elements... like why was that added? What purpose does it hold? To make us feel more pity for the MMC? Why? If anything it makes me dislike the author and the character even more. However, if its supposed to symbolize real life... I suppose I get it but not really though because why is a old man going after a high schooler? A pedo is in no way relatable, gay or not. it's just gross.
Then there's also the added element of the MMCs girlfriend (idrc to remember any character names because I didn't like the manga) as there's the added issue of women oversexualizing gay men and projecting fantasies onto them. I appreciate how to author comes across it because reading gay romances isn't a bad thing at all but when people are projecting those stereotypes onto real people, it demonizes them and creates a whole new issue within the LGBTQ community. I hope to see more of that in future volumes, if I even decide to pick those up but if I see it up on edelweiss.... than maybe.
Overall rating: 2.5/5
March 29, 2025
Dieser Manga hat mich mit seiner Tiefe und Relevanz wirklich überrascht.
Er taucht tief in die gesitig Welt eines homosexuellen Jungen ein, der damit kämpft "anders" zu sein.
Die Gefühle werden so authentisch und lebendig herüber gebracht, dass man auch als Erwachsener Leser über die Stellen, an denen es etwas zu erklärend und lehrend wird, absolut hinwegsehen kann.
Der Manga richtet sich eindeutig an junge Leser um ihnen Homosexualität und die Erlebenswelt der Betroffenen näherbringen.
Dadurch, dass die Handlung in Japan spielt, einer Gesellschaft, die (noch) wenig offen für alternative Lebensstile ist, werden die Entscheidungen, vor denen der Protagonist steht, noch drängender.
In Japan ist es (noch) ungleich schwieriger, alles zu haben.
Die Zwänge, die Selbstabwertung, der Versuch "normal" zu sein, all das hat mir schier das Herz gebrochen mit anzusehen.
Einzig der Umgang mit HIV mutet etwas seltsam an. Heutzutage können Infizierte ein weitgehend normales Leben führen. Im Manga wird dies les Thema jedoch wie in den 90er Jahren behandelt, als eine Infektion einem Todesurteil gleich kam.
Mit dieser Entwicklung der Medizin im Kopf, tut dies der Geschichte jedoch keinen Abbruch.
Er taucht tief in die gesitig Welt eines homosexuellen Jungen ein, der damit kämpft "anders" zu sein.
Die Gefühle werden so authentisch und lebendig herüber gebracht, dass man auch als Erwachsener Leser über die Stellen, an denen es etwas zu erklärend und lehrend wird, absolut hinwegsehen kann.
Der Manga richtet sich eindeutig an junge Leser um ihnen Homosexualität und die Erlebenswelt der Betroffenen näherbringen.
Dadurch, dass die Handlung in Japan spielt, einer Gesellschaft, die (noch) wenig offen für alternative Lebensstile ist, werden die Entscheidungen, vor denen der Protagonist steht, noch drängender.
In Japan ist es (noch) ungleich schwieriger, alles zu haben.
Die Zwänge, die Selbstabwertung, der Versuch "normal" zu sein, all das hat mir schier das Herz gebrochen mit anzusehen.
Einzig der Umgang mit HIV mutet etwas seltsam an. Heutzutage können Infizierte ein weitgehend normales Leben führen. Im Manga wird dies les Thema jedoch wie in den 90er Jahren behandelt, als eine Infektion einem Todesurteil gleich kam.
Mit dieser Entwicklung der Medizin im Kopf, tut dies der Geschichte jedoch keinen Abbruch.
April 17, 2024
This story follows Highschooler Atsushi Andou, a young student who hides the fact that he is gay, and his classmate Miura. Atsushi catches Miura buying BL, causing her to freak out and make him promise to keep her love of gay men a secret. The two soon become budding friends, and one day Miura confesses her feelings to Atsushi. Atsushi panics and agrees to enter a romantic relationship with Miura. Soon though, the guilt sets in as he navigates not being attracted to women, but longing for a mundane life with a wife, house, and children of his own. As Atsushi learns more about himself, he soon finds that maybe he doesn't really know what "love" can truly mean.
Despite its title, this first volume has heavy tones that touch on the realities of young adults exploring their sexuality. Atsushi and Miura and very similar in that they seek online chatrooms for other like-minded people. But what happens when Atsushi's online support system is taken away? I hope we find out in volume 2. 4/5 stars.
Despite its title, this first volume has heavy tones that touch on the realities of young adults exploring their sexuality. Atsushi and Miura and very similar in that they seek online chatrooms for other like-minded people. But what happens when Atsushi's online support system is taken away? I hope we find out in volume 2. 4/5 stars.
December 27, 2024
I picked up this book randomly because of a youtube video I watched long ago that had this title as a recommendation, even if I didn't know what I'd get into.
I usually just consume and read fast when it comes to my usual mangas, but this one took a lot of time for me to read. It wasn't bad, rather, it was really heavy. This manga talks a lot about internal homophobia and the struggle of finding and living your own identity when it contradicts what society deems normal. The characters are flawed, especially our main character. The manga shows a lot of the darker themes when it comes to queer spaces most especially when it's contrasted by some people's romanticization of BL media. There were scenes that I found uncomfortable, but I think that's because I'm not used to reading this type of manga. All in all, this is a good manga that I would probably recommend.
Would I read volume 2? Absolutely. But I'd probably have to read some lighter stuff before I get back to this series.
I usually just consume and read fast when it comes to my usual mangas, but this one took a lot of time for me to read. It wasn't bad, rather, it was really heavy. This manga talks a lot about internal homophobia and the struggle of finding and living your own identity when it contradicts what society deems normal. The characters are flawed, especially our main character. The manga shows a lot of the darker themes when it comes to queer spaces most especially when it's contrasted by some people's romanticization of BL media. There were scenes that I found uncomfortable, but I think that's because I'm not used to reading this type of manga. All in all, this is a good manga that I would probably recommend.
Would I read volume 2? Absolutely. But I'd probably have to read some lighter stuff before I get back to this series.
July 24, 2022
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Io e Mr Fahrenheit – She likes homo, not me è un manga concluso in tre volumi disegnato da Akira Hirahara e tratto dall’omonima light novel scritta da Naoto Asahara. Entrambe le opere sono state pubblicate in Italia da Planet Manga, rispettivamente nel 2019 e nel 2020, dopo aver debuttato in patria l’anno precedente.
https://www.goresetgo.it/io-e-mr-fahr...
Io e Mr Fahrenheit – She likes homo, not me è un manga concluso in tre volumi disegnato da Akira Hirahara e tratto dall’omonima light novel scritta da Naoto Asahara. Entrambe le opere sono state pubblicate in Italia da Planet Manga, rispettivamente nel 2019 e nel 2020, dopo aver debuttato in patria l’anno precedente.
October 29, 2021
Wow... Knallhart realistisch und ehrlich. Nichts für zarte Gemüter, die auf süßes BL oder Yaoi stehen. Denn hier ist nicht der Sex krass, sondern die Situationen und Denkweisen. Wirklich teils traurig realistisch. Da könnte ich mich gleich wieder über die engstirnige Menschheit aufregen! Und ich denke wie Mr. Fahrenheit über das Wort "normal" - schon sehr lange.
January 21, 2025
Give it a 2.5/3. It was okay. Different to most BLs I’ve read and more in tune to reality. Read in one sitting but mostly because it is short. Maybe the series gets better, but I am not interested enough after this first volume to purchase the second one. If I see the second volume on a table somewhere and I have absolutely nothing to do I’ll probably pick it up.
January 22, 2025
This is just not for me I think. I'm kind of impressed by just how many heavy topics are brought up here with varying degrees of nuance, but I just couldn't really get myself to like the main character.
Also what's with the truly bizarre decision to have one character's form of greeting be grabbing someone's genitals repeatedly?
Also what's with the truly bizarre decision to have one character's form of greeting be grabbing someone's genitals repeatedly?
May 28, 2025
This surprised me, a much more complex and mature treatment of the issue a closeted gay youth might face in Japan. Also touches upon the problems faced by someone with "unacceptable" hobbies, HIV/AIDS, Japanese dating culture and age/power differentials in a relationship. Quite nice art too.
I picked up this book at a whim at the library, but wil definitely try to read further
I picked up this book at a whim at the library, but wil definitely try to read further
June 15, 2025
Definitely an intense read. If you're expecting this to be cute and funny then guess again. it's got some harsh truths in it. About the MC's gay lifestyle and hiding his sexuality and faking a relationship with a girl to fit in. it's not easy for him. The ending is very sad as well. I'm interested to see where the next volume takes us. I hope it'll be more lightheaded but we'll see.
September 8, 2023
Questo primo volume mi ha lasciato col desiderio di avere immediatamente gli altri due. Diversità e paura di mostrarsi al mondo per quello che realmente si è, conformandosi al "socialmente accetabile" tematiche centrali. Decisamente non buonista ma appunto crudo e realistico.
August 23, 2024
This book deals with so much! The title but me fun and quirky but my God do you go through the emotional wringer for all these chapters. Just wanna hug our boy. He’ll figure it out! Check for Trigger Warnings!
July 28, 2020
Simplemente conmovedor
November 19, 2021
Ich wünschte, die Geschichte wäre aus der Sicht von Mr. Fahrenheit oder Makoto geschrieben worden, denn Jun ist eine nervige Person, der hauptsächtlich von nervigen Personen umgeben ist...
April 13, 2022
J‘adore c‘est un sujet actuel avec une histoire bien à part
May 1, 2023
3,5/5 🌟
July 7, 2023
MR FAHRENHEIT DID WHAT????
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
May 27, 2024
a sinopse já me deixou meio desconfiada mas o conteúdo conseguiu ser pior
September 18, 2024
girl that was depressing
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