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Ryan DeMarco Mystery #4

No Woods So Dark as These

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There are good reasons to fear the dark...

Former Sergeant Ryan DeMarco's life has been spent in defiance--he's defied death, loneliness, and betrayal all while fighting the worst parts of humanity. He's earned a break, and following the devastation of their last case, DeMarco and his girlfriend Jayme want nothing more than to live quietly in each other's company. To forget the horrors they've experienced and work on making each other whole again.

But dreams of a peaceful life together are shattered when two bodies are discovered in a smoldering car in the woods, and another is found brutally mutilated nearby. Much as he'd like to leave the case to his former colleagues, dark forces are at play and DeMarco cannot escape the vortex of lies, betrayal, and desperation. He and Jayme are dragged back into the fray, where they must confront the shady dealings of a close-knit rural community.

In the highly-anticipated fourth installment in his critically-acclaimed series, Randall Silvis returns with a case that might break Ryan DeMarco for good.

448 pages, Paperback

First published July 20, 2020

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Randall Silvis

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Randall Silvis is the internationally acclaimed author of over a dozen novels, one story
collection, and one book of narrative nonfiction. Also a prize-winning playwright, a
produced screenwriter, and a prolific essayist, he has been published and produced in
virtually every field and genre of creative writing. His numerous essays, articles, poems and short stories have appeared in the Discovery Channel magazines, The Writer, Prism International, Short Story International, Manoa, and numerous other online and print magazines. His work has been translated into 10 languages.

Silvis’s many literary awards include two writing fellowships from the National
Endowment for the Arts, the prestigious Drue Heinz Literature Prize, a Fulbright Senior Scholar Research Award, six fellowships for his fiction, drama, and screenwriting from the Pennsylvania Council On the Arts, and an honorary Doctor of Letters degree awarded for “distinguished literary achievement.”

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Profile Image for Meredith (Trying to catch up!).
878 reviews14.2k followers
October 21, 2020
Bleak

No Woods So Dark as These is the 4th book in the Ryan DeMarco series. This installment finds DeMarco and his partner, Jayme, investigating a brutal murder.


In the style of the other three books, the characters are filled with sadness. In this instance, they are in mourning for a loss related to book #3. Both DeMarco and Jayme are in a fragile state, going through the motions of life, while at the same time fighting for a ray of hope. Their investigation is a distraction not only from their recent loss but also from a current threat.

I love this series, but I found this installment to be uneven. It is different from the other 3 books, as DeMarco spends a lot more time philosophizing and remarking on the minutiae of life, which at times was interesting and others frustrating. For me, the characters and the crime were missing the edginess seen in previous books.

The story starts off strong, but the investigation drags. The final moments of the investigation, which ends with the killer behind bars, was anticlimactic. The pacing is SLOW. It took me over 2 weeks to read this, which is the equivalent of a year in my reading world.

There are some good parts. I enjoyed the addition of Flores, a young police trooper who is just as depressed as DeMarco. I loved the addition of Hero the dog! He provided some much-needed lightness and humor.

Then there is that ending. I am going to choose to look at it as a cliffhanger vs. it being the end (if you have read this book, you know what I am talking about!).

Even though I didn’t love No Woods as Dark As These, I still love these characters and I plan on reading book #5.


Thank you to Shauneice Robinson at Poisoned Pen Press for sending me an ARC of this book!
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1,779 reviews5,303 followers
January 15, 2022


2.5 stars

In this 4th book in the 'Ryan DeMarco Mystery' series, the former Pennsylvania State Trooper assists the police in the investigation of a particularly brutal crime. The book can be read as a standalone, but familiarity with the characters is a bonus.



Background: Ryan DeMarco isn't a stranger to tragedy. Years ago, when Ryan was a State Trooper, he and his wife Laraine lost a child, named Ryan Jr., in a tragic car accident. Inconsolable, Laraine left her husband, and DeMarco became an ugly drunk. Now, a reformed DeMarco and his current girlfriend - former State Trooper Jayme Matson - are private consultants who work with the police.



*****

As the book opens, a horrific crime scene is discovered in a Pennsylvania forest. Two charred bodies are found in a burnt car with the body of an African-American man nearby, nailed to a tree with three Rebar rods.

Private consultants Ryan DeMarco and Jayme Matson are called in to assist the police with their investigation.



The sleuths can use the distraction because they're both in a bad place. The couple recently lost their unborn child due to a criminal assault by sociopath Daksh Khatri, who's still on the loose. Moreover, Ryan still mourns his dead son, and continues to deplore his old alcoholic behavior.

DeMarco and Matson are required to have a uniformed officer along when they canvass homes and/or interview witnesses, so they pair up with a couple of young troopers: DeMarco with Trooper Daniella Flores.....



.....and Matson with Trooper Mason Boyd.



The investigators soon turn up a couple of persons of interest: a cantankerous, smelly old man who has a couple of big burly sons.....



.....and a huge bald 'antiques dealer' who seems very suspicious.



While DiMarco and Matson are investigating the crime, they take several young people under their wings. These include Trooper Flores, who has anxiety issues stemming from a difficult childhood; a drug addict/prostitute who wants out of the life;



and an up-and-coming journalist who asks to follow the case.



The investigation becomes very complex before the case is solved, and some surprises come to light. I don't want to say more because of spoilers.

A highlight of the book is the adoption of a rescue dog by DiMarco and Matson.



The pooch, who immediately becomes a treasured member of the household, gets a series of temporary names until the couple hits on the exact right one. 🙂 The dog wakes up DiMarco when he has to go; sits at Jayme's feet; likes take-out food; enjoys walks; and is a very endearing fellow.

I liked the detective aspects of the story, and the solution of the case.

That said, several things about this book bother me.

◆ First, the investigation sections of the book are LIBERALLY interspersed with scenes of DiMarco, Matson, and Flores having bad memories, sad thoughts, and anxiety attacks. DiMarco is obsessed with his abusive father, past alcoholic behavior, dead children, and estranged wife Laraine; Matson is consumed with her lost baby, which she thinks about night and day; and Flores is haunted by memories of her unhappy past. There's too much of this, and it detracts from the mystery.

◆ Second, the protagonists, especially DiMarco, are forever spouting bits of information and philosophy as well as quotes from authors, songwriters, poets, historical figures, movies, etc. These are out of context vis a vis the investigation, and seem to be thrown in to demonstrate the author's knowledge and/or research. I'll give some examples:

"Unfertilized frog eggs are round, simple, undifferentiated things. But the moment the egg is fertilized- the very moment - the egg begins to produce an electromagnetic field."



"The caduceus of Hermes....is in fact an ancient Greek alchemical symbol denoting the spine, with the pine cone-shaped top representing the pineal gland, and the two serpents, the life-force, entwined around the staff, which represents the spine."



"Confucius was asked for a single word that would ensure a good, happy life, and that was his answer: chu. It means forbearance. Tolerance and restraint. Patience and self-control."



"The song [Tupelo Honey] is about freedom. The first verse alludes to the American Revolution, the second verse to the Irish battle for independence. And the chorus is about [Van Morrison's] wife, Janet, who gives him the sweet freedom to be the best artist he can be."



"Max Planck, the father of quantum physics, had something to do with the discovery that photons and electrons sometimes behave like particles and sometimes like a wave....The experiment suggests that the observer influences, or in Planck's mind, creates reality."



◆ Third, DiMarco and Matson moon too much about their love for each other..... and about God and the soul. The philosophizing about religion takes on a preachy tone, which I don't welcome in my pleasure reading.

For me, Randall Silvis has gone off-script with this book, but it's still worth reading if you're a fan of the series.

Thanks to Netgalley, the author (Randall Silvis), and the publisher (Poisoned Pen Press) for a copy of the book.

You can follow my reviews at https://reviewsbybarbsaffer.blogspot....
Profile Image for Jennifer ~ TarHeelReader.
2,789 reviews31.9k followers
July 31, 2020
Silvis’ books have been recommended to me for a long time, and I finally took the plunge. This is book four in a well-loved series, and I have not read the others. No Woods So Dark as These stood on its own, but I am certain my experience would have been enriched if I knew more of the backstory with Ryan DeMarco.

DeMarco is a former detective, finally taking a break from the horrors he witnessed. His break doesn’t last long because several murders have occurred near his home, and he can’t watch from the sidelines while his former colleagues work. The pacing here is strong, and the book covers several heavy hitting topics, including infertility, drug abuse, and mental health. What stands out most for me is the writing. It’s rich and completely draws you into the story and its characters. I would definitely read more from this author and series.

I received a gifted copy. All opinions are my own.

Many of my reviews can also be found on my blog: www.jennifertarheelreader.com and instagram: www.instagram.com/tarheelreader
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795 reviews269 followers
August 3, 2020
An absolute must read for lover’s of the Ryan DeMaro series.

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

SUMMARY
Former State Trooper Jayme Matson and Former Sergeant Ryan DeMarco are spending some quiet time recovering from some recent cases and the loss of their unborn child. But the door bell rings and once again the two are dragged into another case.

Two bodies are discovered in a smoldering car in the Pennsylvania woods, and another body is found brutally impaled to a tree nearby. As much as Ryan and Jamye would like to leave the case to former colleagues, they just can’t say no. Who committed these heinous act? Why?


REVIEW
No Woods So Dark as These is the fourth book in the Ryan DeMarco series. If you have read the other three books you absolutely have to read this one. It will leave you speechless.

My favorite thing about this book, as well as the series, is Ryan’s character. He ponders of the meaning of life and love and forges ahead despite the horrendous experiences he has had in his lifetime. But even more than that he has tremendous respect and love for Jayme and he is not afraid to show it or to talk about the impact that their relationship has had on him. His emotions are real and raw.

It’s a fast moving and dark story of murder and mayhem. The short chapters make the book a fast read. The light in this dark story is Hero, the shepherd-mix puppy that Ryan rescues from an abusive dog-stealer. The descriptions of Ryan and Jayme’s interactions and relationship with the puppy are fun.

I have loved this series and this book is no different, although this one seems to have a few more rough edges, repetition and incongruent thoughts than in the past. Despite that it’s still worth the read, particularly if you have read the others.

Author Randall Silvis is an author of over a dozen novels most recently his Ryan DeMarco series which includes: Two Days Gone (2017), Walking the Bones (2018), and A Long Way Down (2019).

Thanks to Netgalley and Poisoned Pen Press for an advance reading copy of this book in exchange for an honest review.


Publisher Poisoned Pen Press
Published August 4, 2020
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Author 2 books117 followers
June 12, 2022
An excellent thriller which reads like a great police procedural until the end when the adrenaline gets ramped up and stays thumping through your system until the last sentence. Throughout the last chapter I was audibly gasping in surprise.

I really enjoyed all the characters (esp Hero, the dog) and the relationship between Demarco and Jayme. Their dynamic with Flores and the reporter and even old retired cops feels very authentic.

This is the 4th in the series but can be read as a standalone. Personally I will be going back and reading the ones I missed. Mr. Silvis has actually published quite a lot (at least 13 other novels). It's always a good day when you discover a new author who makes the time fly by and ensnares you in their world. Five stars!
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3,290 reviews442 followers
May 29, 2021
A favorite author, master storyteller, Randall Silvis returns following A Long Way Down, (Ryan DeMarco #3 - 2019) with his riveting Ryan DeMarco series NO WOODS SO DARK AS THESE (Ryan DeMarco #4)— and the title is just a glimpse into what is yet to come.

Former Sergeant Ryan DeMarco is a complex man. Each case pulls him into darkness.

As we pick up from the last installment, Ryan and Jayme (his love) and partner, former state trooper and PI, to escape work and for a much-needed rest to rejuvenate. They are a team both in work and personal.

However, a force more potent than they know always seems to be pulling them back into a hole of darkness and horror.

Presently, they are grieving over the losses. Jayme suffered a miscarriage pursuing their last case in A Long Way Down,. They both are trying to recover both physically and emotionally from their previous traumatic case.

They are trying to find a bit of happiness, peace, and healing in one another. Jayme cannot keep from thinking about the child that could have been. Ryan knows she wants to try again.

However, there is always another case. Ryan and Jayme are supposed to be retired or taking a break. The local authorities do not take no for an answer.

Two bodies (women) are found in a burned-out car in the woods, with another brutally mutilated nearby. A black man nailed to a tree, naked.

Maybe the case will help them both keep their minds from their grief.

And a loveable stray dog (they later name Hero) shows up and what they need right now to help their little family.

Ryan would like nothing more than to go home and pack up the RV and drive Jayme and Hero down to Key Largo or anywhere to leave the rest of the world behind. They had paid their dues. He did not want to be responsible for others.

However, Ryan is thinking of Jayme. She is ten years younger than him, and still wanted to make a difference. Maybe she needed another victory to wash away some of the stings from the recent defeat. Just one more, right?

He had to keep Jayme safe. She was his blessing.

As they become engrossed in the current case in this small rural town of Pennsylvania, things get complex and dangerous. Troopers Daniella Flores and Mason Boyd are working with them; however, there are other lies, secrets, and darkness in these woods.

Dark, gritty, sinister, and chilling!

We are left with a jaw-dropping, hold-your-breath cliffhanger and anxiously awaiting the next book in the series When All Light Fails (2021).

Once again, Silvis' writing is poetic and lyrical and a master at combining a gripping crime suspense thriller with literary fiction.

As a reader, you experience the senses, thoughts, feelings of the characters, and everything around them. William Shakespeare's quotes sprinkled among chapters were a nice touch.

Ryan is a complex, tormented character; however, we see the growth with each book and the internal strength he possesses. It was nice catching up with some characters from previous books and some not so much.

Readers: You must read the previous books to enhance your reading experience and get to know each of the well-developed characters.

One of my favorite authors! I highly recommend this series and all his books. Ryan DeMarco is an exceptionally developed suspense series. I cannot wait for more Ryan and Jayme and assured they will come out stronger than ever.

A special thank you to Sourcebooks/Poisoned Pen and NetGalley for an advanced reading copy.

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Two Days Gone (Book 1) | Top Books of 2017
Walking the Bones (Book 2) | Top Books of 2018
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No Woods So Dark as These (Book 4) | Top Books of 2020
When All Light Fails (Book 5) | Top Books of 2021
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3,812 reviews3 followers
August 3, 2020
No Woods So Dark as These by Randall Silvis is a slow-burn mystery that is quit intriguing. This fourth installment in the Ryan DeMarco Mystery series can be read as a standalone.

Ryan DeMarco and his girlfriend Jayme Matson are still recovering from the events that occurred during their last case.  Although they are taking a bit of a break, neither can refuse State Trooper Captain Kyle Bowen's request they assist on a gruesome triple homicide. Working alongside Troopers Mason Boyd and Daniella Flores,  Ryan and Jayme also agree to work with local reporter Chase Miller. The victims are almost impossible to identify so they are already at a bit of a disadvantage. However, after canvassing the town's residents, they quickly zero in on a suspect.   Will DeMarco and Matson find the evidence they need to prove their theory?

Ryan and Jayme are both quite reflective throughout their investigation. Ryan has never quite made peace his past and he remains haunted by memories from various time periods in his life. Jayme has yet to come to terms with a painful loss but she is making a conscious effort to try to move forward.  Both feel a sense of impending trouble since trouble appears to be headed their way.

The case moves a little slowly since there is no viable evidence at the scene of the crime. Despite Ryan's reservations, he agrees to allow Chase to assist their investigation. He proves to be a valuable asset as he uncovers a lead that could help identify the three victims. Locating a couple of possible witnesses, they are frustrated and saddened by events that unfold. Through good old fashioned detective work, DeMarco, Matson and the state troopers are soon closing in on the killer.

No Woods So Dark as These is an engaging mystery with an fascinating storyline. The characters are well-developed and they are quite contemplative throughout the story. The investigation is interesting and delves into the more unsavory aspects of life.  Although the case is quietly wrapped up, Randall Silvis brings the mystery to an absolutely jaw-dropping, cliffhanger conclusion. Old and new fans will enjoy this latest addition to the Ryan DeMarco Mystery series.
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Author 124 books165 followers
May 10, 2020
These series has run its course for me. I LOVED the first book, and it earned 5 stars from me. Then book #2 slid to 4 stars--still very good. But book #3 was 2 stars (maybe 2-1/2), and now book #3 is also 2 stars (maybe really 1-1/2).

There's way too much boring and inauthentic-sounding philosophizing from Ryan. And at one point, Silvis uses him to thumb his nose at the reader. Ryan says, "If this were a novel, the reviewers would be saying 'too many characters, too many plots.'" Yep, as a reader, that was exactly what I was saying. And the answer of "Ignore the reviewers. Life is messy," just sounds like an excuse. Yep, I know this novel is kind of a slog. Deal with it.

My favorite part of the book was the addition of Hero, the dog. The rest of the novel was just too much of a slog through too many people's brains. I don't care about Khatri, and by the end of the book, I just thought, "Are you kidding me?" when Ryan I thought, "What the heck is going on here? What happened?"

And then I realized...I didn't really care. So that tells me the book is just maybe too messy for me. Or maybe the author needs to respect the reader a bit more. The novel is too full of loose ends, and I no longer care enough about the characters to find out what happens in the next book. I no longer trust Silvis to tell a complete and satisfying story, which makes me sad, because this series was so strong in the first couple of books.

Review copy provided by the publisher via Netgalley in exchange for an honest review.
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October 18, 2020
Sergeant Ryan DeMarco decides he has earned a break after his last case. Both Demarco and Matson have retired from the police force after their last case which left them tired, worn out and devastated. DeMarco and his girlfriend, Jayme, are living a quiet live in each other's company working on healing. That doesn't last for long when two bodies are discovered and DeMarco and Matson are called back as private investigators. DeMarcos isn't really ready to go back so soon, but Jayne is really excited and seems too grow from being part of this mystery. Through out their investigation they meet people who are having hard times or just trying to find there way in life. DeMarcos and Matson don't have must confidence after their last case that ended badly. It is always in the back of their minds. Jayne is rearing to go. All three of them do a lot of fussing and arguing which is quiet entertaining. Throughout it all their true love and care for it other shines brightly. Well I don't want to spoil the ending. This book is so entertaining and you will not want to put it down. It is a series but you can start with this book even if you haven't read the other series. Two Days Gone is another great read. Randall Silvis is just a great author with a great imagination.

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930 reviews37 followers
June 4, 2020
Love Ryan Demarco Mysteries by Randall Silvis. Ryan and girl friend Jayme have retired from the police force for can't seem to escape being drawn into another gruesome murder that has taken place deep in the woods. Read the action and enjoy these characters as you turn the pages to an OH MY GOD ENDING!! "A copy of this book was provided by Poisoned Pen Press via Netgalley with no requirements for a review. Comments here are my honest opinion." This can be read as a stand-alone.
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148 reviews11 followers
July 22, 2020
I was fortunate enough to read an advanced copy of No Woods So Dark as These (A Ryan DeMarco Mystery) by Randall Silvis through NetGalley.com.

The fourth entry in this consistently excellent series, DeMarco is a former PA State Trooper asked to assist in the investigation of a triple homicide. Joining him in the investigation are his partner (both in business and life) Jayme, several current or former PA State Troopers, a young aspiring writer and a new member of the DeMarco family, an aptly named Hero the dog. All of them damaged in their own ways. DeMarco continues to be consumed by his perceived failings as a father, husband and son, trying his best not to repeat the sins of his past. He and Jayme use the new investigation to try and help them come to terms with, and get past, the tragic events of the prior book in the series.

While there are some lighter moments, Silvis tackles depression, remorse, insecurity and ambition in a tale that can only be described as gritty. This book could be read as a standalone however the emotional heft of the book comes from the reader fully understanding what DeMarco has experienced to get to this point. Though there are plenty of potential suspects and some red herrings that make the mystery compelling, it is the relationship between DeMarco & Jayme, and his continued emotional growth that sets this one apart.

This one gets 5 enthusiastic stars. Buy it when it comes out and plan on setting a couple of days aside … it’s that good.
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1,051 reviews81 followers
June 23, 2020
“He had learned to recognize this kind of childhood in others as well. He might not know the particulars of their unhappiness but he could see the damage it had done and the way it made them now as adults. When you have no warm and comforting memories into which to retreat, you are always pushing forward toward an imagined happiness that can never be achieved. You are always trying to prove yourself worthy of love and respect and worthy of existence. If you are lucky you will grow to have moments when you know that you are as worthy as anybody else, but those moments will be fleeting and you will find no comfort in them in the dark of the night.”*

A horrible murder scene in the woods kicks off the fourth installment of the Ryan DeMarco mystery series. Ryan and his partner, both on and off the case, Jayme join the local police in investigating the crime. As their case heats up, a killer from their past threatens their future.

This installment is a cornucopia of goodness. Silvis infuses the story with philosophy, psychology, art, suspense, musical references, relationship goals, and bookish delights as Ryan reminisces about his friendship with Thomas Huston, a writer featured in the first book of the series. Then there’s Silvis’s gorgeous literary prose, which adds a rich texture to the book.

The core of this series are the fantastic characters and their relationships with each other. Ryan has known much darkness and loss, yet he strives to be a better man for Jayme. The dangerous cases they investigate put their lives in peril yet both are driven by a greater purpose. For example, in this installment both have the opportunity to mentor several other characters including a young police officer who was inspired to join the force after interactions with Ryan. On the other end of the spectrum are the old timers on the police force, including a man who is a dark reflection of what Ryan could have become if not for Jayme.

This installment felt particularly personal to me. Ryan is considering how much time he has left on the planet and how he wants to spend that time. That whole calculation of years lived minus the average human life span. There’s a certain terror associated when one ponders how small the time left value seems. His recollection of his past involves so many things from my childhood, I felt an even deeper connection with Ryan’s character.

I absolutely adore Silvis’s lush writing style and phenomenal characterization. I love how Ryan explores his past, present, and the future he dodged through Jayme’s love. Like the other’s in this phenomenal series, NO WOODS SO DARK AS THESE deserves all the stars—every single one.

I voluntarily read and reviewed an advanced copy of this book. All thoughts and opinions are my own.

Thanks to NetGalley and Poisoned Pen Press, an imprint of Sourcebooks, for providing an Advance Reader Copy.

*Please note that my review is based on uncorrected text.
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5,646 reviews329 followers
April 10, 2020
From a horrifying explosive beginning to a heartwrenching conclusion, NO WOODS SO DARK AS THESE is an engrossing and twisted mystery starring former Pennsylvania State Police detectives Ryan DeMarcos and Jayme Matson, now "unofficial consultants" and privately investigating. In the midst of all their own personal turmoil, both shared and individual, past and present, the partners are called in to assist in the State Police investigation of a multiple crime scene in isolated woods. Author Randall Silvis possesses a noted gift for lyrical imagery and for depth psychology. The villain fooled me, in that I was focused on a certain avenue of villainy. I was incorrect, so that was a pleasant surprise as I didn't "know all" in advance; and discovering unexpected turns was certainly true of the ending as well. I anticipate learning where the author might take this Series from this point forward.
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726 reviews96 followers
September 27, 2020
One of the better aspects of this fine series has been the fact that Ryan has a dark side to him, full of sorrow, anger and pain that makes him rather introspective and gives him a substantive edge missing from a lot of these types of series. However, I think Silvis went a bit overboard in this one. Too much time spent on his and Jayme's troubles and tribulations and not enough time on the actual mystery plot, which is rather shallow and lacking of any real surprises. It becomes rather depressing at times, and Jayme is becoming too judgmental and humorless. It's just overkill at this point. The ending leaves a big question mark on the future of the series, which is a good thing. Silvis just needs to lighten up a bit on these two and get back to the terrific plots he's produced before.
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137 reviews2 followers
April 24, 2020
Former Sergeant Ryan DeMarco's life has been spent in defiance―he's defied death, loneliness, and betrayal all while fighting the worst parts of humanity. He's earned a break, and following the devastation of their last case, DeMarco and his girlfriend Jayme want nothing more than to live quietly in each other's company. To forget the horrors they've experienced and work on making each other whole again.
This is the first book I have read in the Ryan DeMarco Series of which this is the 4th This is something that I intend to revisit as it is a great read and I would like to find out some of the background behind this story. The main characters Ryan DeMarco and his partner Jayme, are both early retired police officers who are brought back to solve a gruesome multiple murder.
I have to admit that Ryan and Jayme are my new favorite crime partners and the most interesting since Dennis Lehanes Patrick Kenzie and Angela Gennaro. Both leads are wounded from prior work experiences but their relationship is well moulded and integral to the overall storyline. Two people from different backgrounds working hard to keep things together through pressing times. . The supporting cast on the police force and involved in the crime itself are interesting and add depth to this well thought out plot.
What I also thoroughly enjoyed is Silvis writing style. It is gritty yet poignant with regard to how people interact with each other. Overall a fantastic story with great cast. Look forward to Randall Silvis’s future novels.
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232 reviews8 followers
September 13, 2020
* SPOILER ALERT!! *

I am so pissed! I don’t typically like when a series goes on and on so I tend to not even start reading them. That being said, I did start this series and I am also glad it ended at 4 books, BUT REALLY? Why did it have to end with the death of DeMarco? What exactly was the point? The author could have written him into the sunset with his new outlook on life, Jayme, and their newly rescued pup. We could have made our own conclusions on their travels in their RV or their motorcycles. Instead, we have to yell at DeMarco for not only leaving Jayme in bed without saying goodbye but also leaving his phone and basically running head first into an ambush. Then we have to read about him actively dying alone. What happens to Jayme? In my head, she was next, along with Hero. Just senseless in my opinion. DeMarco grew emotionally throughout the entire series and was a pretty smart guy. To have him die because of a lapse of judgment just doesn’t make sense and honestly, was lazy.
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2,789 reviews131 followers
August 14, 2020
No Woods So Dark as These is the fourth book in the Ryan DeMarco mystery series. I enjoyed it as a standalone novel but did not feel that I was at any particular disadvantage not having read the first three instalments, though some familiarity with the characters might have enriched my reading experience.

Ryan DeMarco, a former Pennsylvania State Trooper, is asked to assist in the investigation of a triple murder. He is joined in the investigation by his girlfriend and work partner, former State Trooper Jayme Matson, and other young troopers, Daniella Flores and Mason Boyd. The victims are almost impossible to identify so they are struggling from the offset, however, after canvassing and interviewing the town's residents, they soon pinpoint a suspect. Can DeMarco and Matson find the evidence they need to solve the case? As DeMarco is consumed by his perceived failings as a father, husband and son, he and Jayme use the investigation to try and help them come to terms with recent tragic events.

The pacing in this terrific crime mystery is comfortable and strong. The book encompasses some hard hitting topics, such as infertility, drug abuse, and mental health. I relished in Randall Silvis' rich, outstanding writing - it completely drew me into the story and the characters lives. I will certainly be reading more of this fabulous author's work, checking out the first three books of this series.

I received a complimentary copy of this novel at my request from Poisoned Pen Press via NetGalley. This review is my own unbiased opinion.
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666 reviews114 followers
July 22, 2020
Thanks in advance for an eARC of this book in exchange for an honest review.

This is my first book from the author and given that it's a series, I may have been a bit at a disadvantage not having known the context of the previous book. However, overall I thought with was a good read, not without its problems, but certainly, a book fans of the series may appreciate in addition to anyone looking for a true detective / crime read.

Pros: The chapter pacing was helpful in keeping me engaged. The prose at times was very refined and I appreciated the author and story taking on some very heavy topics including miscarriage, infertility, family dynamics, the aftereffects of abuse, drug use and rehabilitation, and mental health. The crime itself also had a very neat and tidy ending, though anti-climactic.

Cons: I almost put the book down entirely after how we're introduced to Jayme and the way in which she describes abortion as the scraping of a child and dismembering of body parts. I can be empathetic entirely to her circumstances, but this passage comes before we really know what happened to her pregnancy and how it ended and completely contrasts with how we're told to view her character throughout the book. She views abortion in that manner but also cries when a junkie she never even met dies from heart failure brought on by an overdose. She's DeMarco's light, his positivity, his anchor to goodness, yet here she is effectively bashing abortion and perpetuating language that has been used to argue against a women's choice. Given the book deals with such heavy topics of good people losing their way and lives to drugs, I wonder how there's no empathy to consider the circumstances under which someone would need to have an abortion.

Moving on, the repeated discussion over neutering the dog veered on obsessive and at times felt like a dialogue filler that did not move the plot forward. To that end, I felt there was almost too much of Jayme and DeMarco's relationship vs. the larger plot itself. The perspective of Flores was interesting, though her depression seemed incredibly severe, and as quickly as we got to her story we then flitted away from it, never revisiting it again.

Then there's the issue of editing. There were some references to Captain Boyd vs. Trooper Boyd and Captain Bowen. Those are obvious errors that confuse the reader. There were also instances of commas where actual dialogue ended, which looks to me like the additional dialogue was cut out without cleaning up the surrounding language. Then there's the matter of Sully. Her mother tells us Sully received a message from a guy and left in a hurry then, but when we talk to Sonny, he indicates Sully called him and came to him in a panic. This seems like an obvious detail that perhaps Reddick was moving in on Sully to tie up loose ends, which Flores and DeMarco should have picked up on, but do not.

Now, to the Khatri element. I believe it was intended to provide an overarching sense of dread and foreboding, this ominous villain from the previous book in the series, but it never came across that way. I' would randomly remember him whenever he left a note of did something, but they were few and far between that the dread of him did not linger. In addition, a single chapter (again they're usually very short) to provide more backstory on the previous book would have been helpful as I didn't get the true grasp on how dangerous Khatri is, or why / how he would have disciples. With that context, maybe Khatri would have felt like a bigger presence to me.
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210 reviews3 followers
February 17, 2021
I’ve never read any other book by this author, or in this series, so I was coming in part-way through DeMarco’s story, although that didn’t seem to be a big deal. With that being said, I don’t know how the other books are written or anything about Silvis, the author, HOWEVER. I will say that there were enough annoying nuances about this book that I will never read another one of his books again.
Here’s the thing about this book. It was clearly written around the election (it was released in 2020) and the political commentary that was sprinkled throughout the book was SO irrelevant to the character development, plot, or any theme whatsoever. With that being said, I can only assume that Silvis is a salty republican looking for a platform to put-down members of the Democratic Party. THANKFULLY he didn’t throw in any “blue lives matter” garbage into his book (which is funny since it’s all about cops), but otherwise the his commentary was obnoxious. ALSO. I couldn’t help but be perturbed by some of the commentary from Jayme (DeMarco’s partner) and how she views DeMarco as her “big strong man”...really? She’s a cop and a specialist in human psychology and that’s how she describes her partner? Like a wobbly damsel in distress? Anyway. I am probably being nit picky, but, it doesn’t matter because I will not be revisiting this series or any other books by Randall Silvis. The end.
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1,074 reviews26 followers
October 2, 2021
Cliffhanger ending that makes me very happy I read it when #5 is already published. Silvis has created a complex, compelling CH ins Ryan Demarco. Also Jayne, and his cast of state troopers and police personnel. The bad guys in a Silvis can be one-notes but usually have great depth--as they do in this book. The author's style is a bit of a marriage of Connelly's Bosch-like CH depth and plotting and Penny's resonant writing style and framing--great food descriptions and he uses location to infuse the plot & CHs with layers of meaning and ambiance. Tone builds and pivots from mundane to terror, unease to fright. I saw the ending coming just as DeMarco does but I refuse to accept one interpretation. One minor criticism and maybe a Red Flag for some--the loss of a unborn child or any child is devastating and I comprehend why it permeates almost every page of this novel but there is a seeping into "tell not show" that I believe is something Silvis rarely does so overtly but very heavy-handed here. I understand the reader needs some of it but I believe the atmosphere he creates and the CH development already does the job making the immersion more painful than informative.
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10 reviews
July 17, 2023
Unintentionally started on the 4th book in this series so that probably didn’t help, but I’ve never struggled to get through a book like this. Very anticlimactic and I couldn’t stand the ending-so many questions left unanswered.
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728 reviews42 followers
August 25, 2020
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BOOKS THAT KEEPS YOU GUESSING UNTIL THE VERY END. i WISH THAT IT HAD A DIFFERENT ENDING BUT THE ENDING THAT IS THERE WORKS TOO. DEFINITELY WELL WORTH READING
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1,152 reviews27 followers
January 18, 2021
Beautifully written, but wandered a little bit.
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50 reviews
February 4, 2020
No Woods So Dark as These by Randall Silvis
No Woods So Dark as These

Ramblings:
Reading the earlier installments is not necessary to understand book four’s storyline. However, there are a few unanswered questions in DeMarco’s backstory. For example, Ryan’s still grieving Ryan Jr. What were the circumstances surrounding his passing? DeMarco’s father (a wretched man) also deceased. What happened to him? I may have to read the others to find out.

Reviewer Summary:
Some retirees seek out R and R in the sun. Others simply travel the world and commune with nature. Ryan DeMarco, on the other hand, is spending his retirement...back at work! Multitasking between dodging a homicidal killer and helping solve a triple homicide. And that’s not counting the evil day fast approaching, when failing to follow policies and procedures may cost him everything he holds dear.

Review:
No Woods So Dark as These is the fourth installment in the Ryan DeMarco mystery series, written by author Randall Silvis. Its official release date is August 4th, 2020. The first three stories in the series are currently available for purchase. The debut novel is titled, Two Days Gone, and is followed by books two (Walking the Bones) and three (A Long Way Down).

Silvis’s main characters (Ryan and his Gf Jayme) are trudging along on their grief journeys which sets a somber, often despondent tone to this novel. The introduction of my favorite secondary character, Chase Miller, uplifted the moodiness like a rainbow after a downpour. I loved the sting operation gone wrong, the door-to-door interviews of potential witnesses, and the story in general. I think Chase should ask out the new recruit (Daniella Flores) and that he should ditch journalism and join the force!

At times, the author has a tendency toward magniloquence noun. Using words such as sibilance, obdurate, excoriate, obfuscating, etc. I recommend using context clues or Vocabulary.com.

Overall, Silvis’s new release offers readers a dark mystery leading you along unlit paths. Eerie, dark, and shocking. I was slack-jawed at least twice. The ending being one instance. Where’s book five? After that ending: I need it!

You’ll like this novel if you:
#1 Read detective fiction novels
#2 Enjoy police procedurals
#3 Prefer detective “duos,” e.g., Vicki Nelson and Henry Fitzroy from Blood Ties (that’s what came to mind-sorry)
#4 Like mysteries (not cozy, the other kind)
#5 Favor slower-paced storytelling

Disclosure:
I received a complimentary trade paperback ARC of No Woods So Dark as These from Sourcebooks, Poisoned Pen Press. I’m thankful to the publisher and author for the opportunity to review this upcoming August 4th, 2020 release. My review is an honest reflection of my thoughts/ramblings.
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2,030 reviews67 followers
May 3, 2020
It was OK, not great. Disappointed. Foreshadowing is alternated with sentimentality that contributes to a depressing experience.

Their last case has left Ryan DeMarco and Jayme Matson emotionally exhausted, but just when they hope to have a peaceful recovery period, more bodies drag them into a new case.

I loved the first book in this series, but succeeding books have failed to match that experience, and this one was a no go for me. Maybe because the protagonist in the first book was (by necessity) followed by DeMarco as the lead, I've not felt as engaged with the characters. Could have been cut by about 100 pages of foreshadowing and foreboding.

NetGalley/Poisoned Pen Press
Mystery. Aug. 4, 2020. Print length: 448 pages.
Profile Image for Lori L (She Treads Softly) .
2,960 reviews117 followers
August 25, 2020
No Woods So Dark as These by Randall Silvis is a very highly recommended procedural and the fourth book in the Ryan DeMarco Series.

Ryan DeMarco, former Sergeant with the Pennsylvania State Police, and Jayme Matson, a former State Trooper, have earned a break. The two have decided to take time off to recover from the horror and devastation of their last case, including the loss of their unborn child. Their goal is for a peaceful life while they both recover mentally and emotionally. That goal is shattered when Ryan's old boss Capt. Kyle Bowen requests their help in the investigation of a horrendous crime scene. Two bodies are burned beyond recognition in a car while nearby a man is impaled with rebar to a tree. The leads take them into the world of a drug dealer. While they are helping to uncover clues and track down the main suspect, there is information a former colleague is trying to hint at that must be figured out and their old nemesis Daksh Khatri is clearly targeting both of them.

No Woods So Dark as These is absolutely riveting and held my rapt attention from beginning to end. The characters are well-developed and portrayed as very complex, humane, intelligent individuals. I loved everything about them. They are both in a pensive, reflective mood in the novel and are trying to leave the darkness of all their previous investigations and life experiences behind while looking for a peaceful existence and healing. They are both good people who have been conscripted into another investigation full of horror, lies, scheming, fear, and subterfuge. It will warm the hearts of dog lovers everywhere when they adopt a puppy and set about naming him. Not only does it lighten the darkness, it is endearing.

The plot is very well paced and the short chapters keep the narrative moving, making the investigation, clues, and action easy to follow. The story can be dark due to the nature of the case they are following as well as the people and the clues. This is a case that requires the careful, watchful experience of seasoned investigators who are used to uncovering clues and facts that people are desperate to keep hidden. The ending is a jaw-dropping, heart-stopping moment.

The four books in the Ryan DeMarco Mystery Series are: Two Days Gone (Book 1); Walking the Bones (Book 2); A Long Way Down (Book 3); and No Woods So Dark as These (Book 4). You can read this final book as a stand-alone, but, after lamenting your poor choices in life, you will want to immediately go back and read the first three leading up to the fourth.

Disclosure: My review copy was courtesy of Sourcebooks via Netgalley.
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Author 1 book11 followers
August 11, 2020
I suppose I should begin this review with full transparency. I've known Randy for almost 40 years. He was my 9th grade writing teacher at Knoch High School in Saxonburg, PA. And I starred in the world premieres of two of his plays: "The Riddle of the Sphinx" at the Butler, PA Little Theatre and "Driven to Acts of Kindness" at Clarion University (also in Western PA). Therefore, I hardly can be considered an objective reviewer.

Having said that, I objectively believe Randy is a brilliant writer. Unfortunately, he has never gained the notoriety he deserves because his writing falls between two genres - something he confesses to in the author interview that appears at the end of the first installment in the Ryan DeMarco series ("Two Days Gone"). Basically, his books are too intricate and plot driven for "literature." But they're also too literary for the "mysteries" genre.

The good news for Randy and his fans, myself included, is that he's finally getting the recognition he deserves thanks to this series, which I decided to reread in advance of the August release of this fourth novel in the series. Sergeant Ryan DeMarco is a Pennsylvania State Trooper with more demons than Hades. At the beginning of the first novel, he had not faced them for years. By its end, a new DeMarco was starting to develop. That development continued in the second and third novels in the series, as his relationship with fellow Trooper Jayme Matson intensified. And it further continues in this latest installment.

This fourth novel is different than the first three in that it read more like a traditional mystery novel and less like literary fiction (especially in the beginning). Consequently, it took me a little while to "get into" this book...it just felt so different from the first three DeMarco mysteries. However, it started to draw me in about halfway through. And by about three-quarters of the way in, I was really enjoying it.

I never like to go into plot details in these reviews to avoid spoilers. However, I will tell you that the ending of the book is quite a cliffhanger. In fact, I private messaged Randy to ask how close he is to finishing #5 in the series, because I'm so eager to read what follows this book's ending.

In general, I still highly recommend this book. But if I'm honest with myself and you, it's my least favorite in the series. Yes, the ending was captivating. However, the rest of the novel didn't quite match his first three in the series IMHO. I guess we'll see what installment 5 brings...
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654 reviews4 followers
July 22, 2025
Well, I asked for it. I have written in a few recent reviews that I found the recent trend toward pedophilia somewhat cringeworthy. Enter Randall Silvis. In the fourth installment of the Ryan DeMarco series, the crime entails a torched compact car with two corpses trapped inside, while nearby, a nude black man has been found impaled by rebar to a tree. Grody stuff, but it ain't pedophilia.

DeMarco and his ladylove, Jayme, have been kicking around the idea of RVing off to random places and just enjoying the sensual appeal of things new. But something about this case compels them to lend a hand. The road to a resolution is twisty and tortuous, but along the way, little doubt applies to the guilty party.

The characters in the DeMarco series are sympathetic and easy to root for. If the story goes awry anywhere, it's toward the end, when DeMarco's thoughts range perhaps a mile or so too deeply into existentialism. His character spends much time in thought about how he got to where he is, and whether or not he can ever truly abandon the influences that shaped him. Nothing wrong with that, on the face of it; I entertain those thoughts myself from time to time. However, I do spend time thinking of other things. I adore my wife Pat, for example, but I seldom gaze at her while she's doing nothing and contemplate how she saved me.

Also...Are there any readers out there who have watched a mystery on the small screen and berated one of the characters for doing something mind-numbingly stupid? All along, Ryan and Jayme have trod carefully, with weapons either drawn or close at hand, keenly on the lookout for threats to either themselves or each other. The story ends with two separate incidents in which Ryan leaves Jayme to her own devices to take on a task for which Jayme would brain him if she knew he were attempting to go it alone. His "What could possibly go wrong" attitude belies his character and is blatantly incongruous with the preceding story. It leads to an ending about which readers will wonder whether or not it's only the book that is ending. Author Silvis goes to great lengths to establish credible characters engaged in plausible behaviors. A suddenly divergent ending lessens the impact of what is otherwise a gripping mystery.
Profile Image for Kristin (Always With a Book).
1,877 reviews435 followers
August 22, 2021
Thank you Poisoned Pen Press for the gifted copy.

This is the 4th installment in the Ryan DeMarco Mystery series. I’ve really enjoyed these books and while I did get a bit behind, I am glad that I finally caught up. Now that I’ve read this one, I can pick up book 5 which just came out earlier this month!

I have really enjoyed these books and love that as much as they are mysteries, they are also character-driven plots. This one in particular is a good mix that keeps you engaged from start to finish. While this book can be read as a stand-alone, as the author does give just enough backstory to help you get by, you will have a much richer reader experience if you have read the prior books.

I love that both Ryan and Jayme are quite reflective in this book. It’s quite evident that what has recently happened has had a huge impact on them and they are still dealing with everything and trying to process it all. I like that the author has decided to show us their process of dealing with this instead of just sweeping it under the rug. They were going to try to take some time off, but a call from an old friend at the State Trooper’s office is hard to refuse and they find themselves in the middle of another case.

There is another character that completely steals the show and, in the process, helps both Ryan and Jayme, in more ways that they could have imagined. I’m talking about Hero, the dog Ryan rescues. He ended up being my favorite part of this story, and I had such a smile on my face every time he was mentioned!

This book has quite the ending and I’m so glad I already have the next book on hand…I’ll definitely be picking it up sooner rather than later to see where things go next! Endings like that stress me out!!!


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2,523 reviews47 followers
February 18, 2024
No Woods So Dark as These is the fourth installment in the Ryan DeMarco Mystery series by Randall Silvis, a master of literary thrillers.

In this story, former Sergeant Ryan DeMarco and his girlfriend Jayme are hoping to heal from their past traumas and enjoy a peaceful life together. But their dreams are shattered when they stumble upon a gruesome crime scene in the woods, involving two burned bodies in a car and another mutilated corpse nearby. DeMarco is reluctantly drawn into the investigation, which leads him to uncover the dark secrets of a close-knit rural community.

The audiobook is narrated by Graham Winton, who does a superb job of bringing the characters and the story to life. His voice is clear, expressive, and engaging, capturing the emotions, the suspense, and the twists of the plot. He also differentiates well between the various accents and tones of the characters, from DeMarco's gruff and weary voice to Jayme's gentle and soothing one.

The book is a gripping and compelling read, with a well-crafted plot, realistic and complex characters, and vivid descriptions of the setting. Silvis explores the themes of violence, corruption, betrayal, and redemption, as well as the psychological effects of trauma and loss. He also balances the dark and gritty aspects of the story with moments of humor, romance, and hope.

This book can be read as a standalone, but it also references and builds on the events and the characters from the previous books in the series.

No Woods So Dark as These is a must-read for fans of murder mystery books and suspenseful thrillers, as well as for those who appreciate the literary quality of Silvis's writing. It is a book that will keep you reading and leave you wanting more of DeMarco's adventures.
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