Vinland Saga, tome 23

ヴィンランド・サガ [Vinland Saga]

by Makoto Yukimura

La guerre de succession des Jomsvikings s'est achevée. Thorfinn et sa troupe s'apprêtent à repartir vers Miklagard, étape indispensable pour financer leur voyage vers le Vinland. De son côté, Sigurd, le mari de Gudrid venu jusqu'à Jomsborg pour la retrouver, s'apprête à rentrer en Islande. Gudrid a promis qu'elle rentrerait avec lui. De son retour dépend l'honneur de Sigurd. Pourtant, après avoir été au cœur d'une guerre sanglante, Sigurd a des doutes. Gudrid et lui doivent-ils vraiment vivre l'existence que Halfdan, le père de Sigurd, a choisie pour eux ?

Genres: Manga, Historical Fiction, Seinen, Historical, Drama, Comics, Comics Manga

192 pages, Paperback

First published November 22, 2019

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Reviews

[Andrei Stoian · Rating 4 out of 5]

Romanian review: Nu mă așteptam să spun asta, dar mă declar dezamăgit de acest arc narativ. Când vorbesc despre "Vinland Saga" și spun că sunt dezamăgit, nu înseamnă că a fost o poveste proastă. Povestea este în continuare interesantă, personajele sunt complexe, scenele de luptă sunt epice și intriga politică este palpitantă. Totuși, mă simt de parcă din punct de vedere filozofic seria și-a atins apogeul la sfârșitul arcului trecut, odată cu dezbaterea dintre Thorfinn și Canute.
În plus, sunt din ce în ce mai multe personaje cu o mentalitate mult prea modernă pentru Evul Mediu, ceea ce nu ar fi fost o problemă dacă seria pornea în felul acesta, dar, până acum, gândirea și mentalitatea personajelor se potrivea cu secolul al-XI-lea în prima jumătate a seriei.
Acest arc se concentrează pe conflictul pentru conducerea ordinului de vikingi Jomsviking, luptătorii divizându-se în două tabere: una care îl susține pe nepotul lui Floki, Baldr, și alta care, indiferent de voința lui, îl susține pe Thorfinn. Astfel, Thorfinn intră din nou în contact cu trecutul său, aflând, printre altele, că Floki este cel care l-a plătit pe Askeladd să îi ucidă tatăl. Mi-a plăcut momentul, dar parcă autorul trece mult prea repede peste partea asta, iar Thorfinn revine extrem de ușor la convingerile sale pacifiste. Aș fi vrut să văd un conflict interior mult mai puternic.
Povestea merge full circle în câteva privințe, ceea ce mi-a plăcut. Thorfinn o cunoaște pe Hild, un personaj nou, căreia i-a ucis tatăl pe vremea când făcea parte din banda lui Askeladd. Prin urmare, pentru un volum întreg, Thorfinn preia rolul lui Askeladd. De altfel, spre sfârșitul arcului, Thorfinn se folosește de lecțiile lui Askeladd pentru a-l învinge pe Garm, un tânăr luptător, a-l cărui unic scop în viață este să se lupte cu adversari din ce în ce mai puternici.
Thorkell este unul dintre punctele forte ale acestui arc, fiind la fel de amuzant și de interesant ca înainte. Lipsa sa de orice fel de interes politic și forța supraomenească îl fac un personaj mereu imprevizibil și imposibil de controlat. Thorkell face întotdeauna doar ce are chef, indiferent de interesele lui Canute sau a grupului de Jomsvikingi cu care se aliază.
Lupta pentru Jomsborg, fortăreața Jomsvikingilor, este epică, plină de adrenalină și conține un capitol profund, prezentat din perspectiva unui luptător oarecare, aflat pe moarte, pe câmpul de luptă. Însă finalul conflictului este puțin prea convenabil pentru mine.
Thorfinn evoluează în câteva privințe, se căsătorește cu Gudridși se confruntă cu câteva umbre ale trecutului său. Cu toate acestea, problema când revelația finală și cea mai impresionantă a protagonsitului se petrece la jumătatea poveștii, este că nimic din ce urmează nu mai are un impact la fel de puternic.



English review: I wasn’t expecting to say this, but I must admit I’m disappointed with this story arc. When I talk about "Vinland Saga" and say I’m disappointed, that doesn’t mean it was a bad story. The narrative remains engaging, the characters are complex, the battle scenes are epic, and the political intrigue is thrilling. However, I feel like the series reached its philosophical peak at the end of the previous arc with the debate between Thorfinn and Canute.
Additionally, there are increasingly more characters with a mindset that feels far too modern for the Middle Ages. This wouldn’t have been an issue if the series had started this way, but until now, the characters’ thoughts and mentalities matched the 11th century quite well in the earlier parts of the series.
This arc focuses on the power struggle within the Jomsvikings, with the warriors splitting into two factions: one supporting Floki’s grandson, Baldr, and the other supporting Thorfinn, regardless of his wishes. This leads Thorfinn to confront his past once again, learning, among other things, that Floki was the one who paid Askeladd to kill his father. I liked this moment, but it feels like the author rushes through it, and Thorfinn returns to his pacifist convictions far too easily. I would have preferred a much stronger internal conflict.
The story comes full circle in some ways, which I appreciated. Thorfinn meets Hild, a new character whose father he killed back when he was part of Askeladd’s band. For an entire volume, Thorfinn essentially takes on Askeladd’s role. Toward the end of the arc, Thorfinn even uses the lessons he learned from Askeladd to defeat Garm, a young warrior whose sole purpose in life is to fight increasingly powerful opponents.
Thorkell is one of the highlights of this arc, remaining just as amusing and intriguing as ever. His complete disinterest in politics and superhuman strength make him an unpredictable and uncontrollable character. Thorkell always does whatever he wants, regardless of Canute’s interests or those of the Jomsvikings he allies with.
The battle for Jomsborg, the Jomsvikings’ fortress, is epic, adrenaline-packed, and includes a deeply emotional chapter told from the perspective of a dying soldier on the battlefield. However, the resolution of the conflict felt a bit too convenient for my liking.
Thorfinn does grow in some respects, he marries Gudrid and faces a few shadows from his past. However, the issue with having the protagonist’s most significant and impactful revelation happen midway through the story is that nothing that follows can have the same emotional weight.

[Eressea · Rating 4 out of 5]

轉形成農夫戰記又出得慢
已經變成佛系追進度了
反正電子書出一本買一本

[Devero · Rating 5 out of 5]

Dopo la caduta di Jomsborg assistiamo ai chiarimenti tra i vari personaggi.
Siggy e i suoi amici tornano per primi in Islanda, portando notizie di Thorfinn. Non vuole restare, avendo mancato alla promessa fatta a suo padre Halfdan. Però lo prega di trattare bene Thorfinn, quando tornerà.
La vecchia amica e amante di Siggy si imbarca con lui, pestandolo un poco, e prende in pratica il comando di quel gruppo che se ne và dall'isola. Chissà dove, ma io penso che più avanti li rivedremo, sembrano i compagni giusti per una pacifica ma tribolata colonia nel Vinland.
Dopo due anni anche Leif e Thorfinn tornano in Islanda. Il viaggio a Miklangard (Costantinopoli) è andato bene, hanno fatto fortuna e Halfdan in fondo lo accoglie bene e ordina una festa nuziale visto che oramai Gudrid e Thorfinn sono marito e moglie, e hanno adottato il piccolo orfano.
Hilde è ancora con loro.
Adesso hanno sei navi, e la colonia nel Vinland non è più un miraggio.

Credo che tra cinque o sei anni vedremo la fine del manga, comunque prima del 2030. Adesso aspettiamo i prossimi volumi.
A questo, 5 stelle.

[Jelka · Rating 4 out of 5]

At first I was disappointed that this volume followed Sigurd. But his story had a really nice and satisfying ending for the moment.
I was somewhat surprised that they skipped the whole Constantinople arc but I see why they did it. But I would've loved to see that. I'm also disapponted that they fast forwarded the whole relationship between Thorfinn and Gudrid.
Nevertheless, I enjoyed this volume.

[⋆ ࣪˖ ִֶָ sel ་༘࿐ · Rating 5 out of 5]

Volume 23 is like a gentle sunrise after the storm. There's something so deeply human and tender about the way the characters grow, especially Sigurd! You expect him to remain a comic relief or antagonist, but instead he surprises you by being genuinely kind. It’s rare to see a character arc like that. Quiet, grounded, and full of heart.

They also finally finished their first journey! Safely coming home and reuniting with everyone in Iceland. And finally, the wedding! Thorfinn and Gudrid deserve this softness after all the pain. Surrounded by warmth, found family, and dreams of peace, Vinland is slowly becoming more than just a distant land. It’s a hope shared by all these beautifully flawed, evolving people. I'm so happy!

[Christina Pilkington · Rating 5 out of 5]

An amazing way to end this arc! I loved every moment of it :) I hope the next arc is just as good. I'm a little nervous about reading it now!

[Agnese Rosengren · Rating 4 out of 5]

Sta per iniziare il viaggio verso il Vinland e io sono tipo: AAAAAAA

[Ibtissem Kaouadji · Rating 4 out of 5]

La relation entre Thorfinn et Gudrid est approfondie dans ce tome, même si le véritable protagoniste de ce 23ème tome est Sigurd qui a pas mal évolué.
Il ne faut pas se fier à l'épaisseur du manga car l'auteur y a intégré un de ses premiers récits qui n'a absolument rien à voir avec la saga Vinland.
A part ce côté remplissage, le récit suit son cours et j’espère qu'on en saura plus sur les aventures de Throfinn à Miklagård.

[karla⁹ ⛈ · Rating 4 out of 5]

That woman is a seabird. A tern. And a caged wild bird makes a poor sight indeed. The best thing to do is to let it fly.

This is slow because it’s the beginning of a new and -the- final arc, but it’s hilarious and the last two chapters are so wholesome I may be crying again..

[Lashaan Balasingam · Rating 4 out of 5]

What an adorable volume, mostly dedicated to Sigurd's character and his complicated relationship with his father. It's only a bonus to see Thorfinn even more grown up and with a new family.

[Monica ✧♬•* · Rating 2 out of 5]

sometimes I feel like my heart is made of stone, but what can I do? It was just ok, and I couldn't care less

[N.E.C.C. · Rating 4 out of 5]

This was a very lay-back volume, liked it a lot.

Kinda slow but not boring at all, very entertaining and funny as hell. Can't wait to see what's gonna happen next. Sadly, this is the last volume that came out so now i do how to wait, and probably a lot. SO SAD!!!!

I ended liking Sigurd a lot, he grew so much in the last volumes and i love how his friends treat him, he's the boss but they just treat him like he's one of them.

I guess now i'll have to watch the anime, so not everything is bad :D

[David Sanz · Rating 5 out of 5]

Precioso.

[Katherine Sigarán · Rating 4 out of 5]

At first I thought it would be a Vol. about Sigurd completely but the last two chapters melted my heart. We go in parts in its entirety it's a very well written Vol. and quite relaxed after the closing of the arc, Sigurd is a secondary character who also had his protagonist so his character had an evolution the whole analogy of the chains and the fact that he was able to free himself from them is a brilliant narrative that is very common within the story of Vinland, we can also see that the relationship between Thorfinn and Gudrid is deeper than we thought and they are becoming one of my favorite couples that I have found while reading manga.

Very excited for what's coming in the next arc.

Al principio pensé que sería un Vol. sobre Sigurd completamente pero los últimos dos capítulos derritieron mi corazón vamos por partes en su totalidad es un Vol. muy bien escrito y bastante relajado después del cierre del arco, Sigurd es un personaje secundario que también tuvo su protagónico por lo que su personaje tuvo una evolución toda la analogía de las cadenas y el hecho de que él haya podido liberarse de ellas es una narrativa brillante que es muy común dentro de la historia de Vinland, también podemos ver que la relación de Thorfinn y Gudrid es más profunda de que lo pensábamos y se están convirtiendo en una de mis parejas favoritas que he encontrando leyendo manga.

Muy emocionada por lo que se viene en el siguiente arco.

[Sarfanee D. · Rating 4 out of 5]

*spoiler alert* ไม่ได้คาดหวังว่าจะได้เห็นการพัฒนาตัวละครของซิกยันเลย แถมยังเป็นพัฒนาการที่ก้าวกระโดดอีก เริ่มตั้งแต่แต่งงาน เมียหนี ออกเรือ โดนจับเป็นทาส ได้เข้าร่วมสงครามกับโทเคล อิรุงตุงนังสุดๆ แต่ผลที่ได้กลับเป็นฉากที่อิมแพคมาก สุดท้ายก็สลัดเงาของพ่อออก ปฏิเสธสงคราม และความรุนแรงตามแก่นเรื่องหลัก แล้วเล่มหลังๆมานี้โฟกัสที่ตัวละครหญิงมากขึ้นด้วย เล่นประเด็นบทบาทของความเป็นหญิง และกุสรีสกับคุณฮิลด์ก็คือตัวแทนของผู้หญิงที่ทำตัวไม่สอดคล้องกับบทบาทนั้น ชอบที่ทั้งซีรีส์นี้เล่าทุกมุมมองในโลกที่มีสงครามนี้ด้วย ตั้งแต่มุมมองของกษัตริย์ ทหาร ชาวบ้าน ทาส และผู้หญิง ให้เราเห็นบทบาทของแต่ละคน รวมถึงผลกระทบจากสงคราม ส่วนฉากที่ชอบในเล่มนี้ก็คงเป็นพาเนลที่คุณฮิลด์ดื่มเหล้าคนเดียวในงานแต่งของทอลฟิน ไม่มีแม้แต่บทพูด แต่ให้ความรู้สึก "อยู่ภายในใจเป็นหมื่นล้านคำ" มาก เหมือนว่าคุณฮิลด์ก็ไม่รู้จะรู้สึกยังไงกับทอลฟินที่เป็นฆาตกรฆ่าพ่อ มาเจออีกครั้งอีกฝ่ายดันเป็นคนดี ไม่เอาความรุนแรง แล้วยังปลดทหารโยมทั้งหมดอีก เดินทางกันมา เห็นได้ชัดเลยว่าคุณฮิลด์เป็นห่วงเป็นใยทอลฟิน(มั้ง) จากการตามติดไปทุกที่ที่มีอันตราย บอกว่าตัวเองเท่านั้นที่จะเป็นคนฆ่าทอลฟิน เหตุการณ์แบบนี้ก็รู้สึกคุ้นไปหน่อย คุ้นๆว่าไอ้ทอลฟินมันก็เคยเดินทางไปไหนมาไหนกับฆาตกรที่ฆ่าพ่อตัวเองเหมือนกัน ด้วยเหตุผลเดียวกัน สุดท้ายก็นับถือเค้า ร้องห่มร้องไห้ตอนเค้าตายอีก เอาเป็นว่าหลังจากนี้ก็จะรอติดตามความสัมพันธ์ของทอลฟินกับคุณฮิลด์ และตัวละครการ์มที่โผล่มาใหม่ก็น่าสนใจมาก เรื่องราวน่าติดตามขึ้นเรื่อยๆ

[Laura Coll · Rating 3 out of 5]

Estos tomos, en comparación con los anteriores, han sido un poco flojos, pero la historia sigue siendo muy buena. Me quedo con las reflexiones sobre el pacifismo y la crítica al ensalzamiento de la guerra y la violencia. Lo primero me parece mejor llevado, con situaciones orgánicas que ponen a Thorfinn contra las cuerdas; lo segundo se me ha hecho algo repetitivo y considero que las escenas de batalla se alargan demasiado y que el humor negro es excesivo. En lo que respecta a los personajes, me ha encantado el trabajo con los femeninos, al fin mujeres fuertes e independientes, aunque creo que Thorfinn acapara demasiado la atención y que los secundarios podrían tener más presencia fuera de sus propios arcos. Por lo demás, el dibujo sigue siendo magistral, lo único que empaña mi entusiasmo es el final, debido a que con el salto temporal se pierde toda la evolución de la relación de personajes que se acababa de establecer.

Reseña completa:
https://paseandoentrepaginas.blogspot...

[Sebastian Rodríguez Rivera · Rating 5 out of 5]

Tras el caos del cierre del arco del Báltico, el desarrollo y cierre de Sigurd, personaje espejo a Thorfinn en cuanto a que representa al individuo que vive a la sombra de un padre eternamente presente, con unos ideales pesados que le significan altas expectativas. Yukimura plantea que su salvación reside en encontrar al Otro antes de condenarse, saltándose la caída en la violencia que tuvo Thorfinn. También presenta una elipsis que daría pie a mini-aventuras, pero que permite al relato progresar hacia lo que le interesa a Yukimura: ¿cómo conseguir un mundo sin violencia? Me permito este volumen para mencionar que si algo tiene bueno Yukimura es su diseño de personajes, es muy consciente de los diversos temas que trata su historia y sabe encarnarlos en su esquema dramático con eficiencia.

[Angelika · Rating 4 out of 5]

Who would've thought that Sigurd and Halfdan's confrontation would make me all sobby? 😭

At this point, when even the most tyrannical character in the story is revealed to be motivated by a concern for the common good of his people, it seems to me that one of the main messages of the managa is that no human is inherently evil, they just resort to misguided means of achieving their goals.

The most naturally "evil" character out of all the antagonists so far seems to be Garm, but then it feels like it's hardly his fault – like he was just born sociopathic, or maybe autistic, and unfortunately it so happens that his "special interest" is combat.

Anyways, I just like stories with grey morality.

[Juho Pohjalainen · Rating 3 out of 5]

I'm very disappointed that the voyage to the east was off-screened. I do understand that it doesn't technically have anything much to do with the main story, the colonization of Vinland itself... but neither did the whole Baltic war, and we wasted so much time on that one! I'd rather have had it the other way around.

[Sofia · Rating 4 out of 5]

My dude Siggy is one of the best characters with a great development. I wish we could have seen more of Thorfinn and Gudrid's relationship tho, I feel like it was very fast-forward :(
Doesn't get 5 stars because I'm petty and wanted to see them kiss 😔

[Shannon · Rating 4 out of 5]

3.75

[Rafael Sampaio · Rating 5 out of 5]

4.5/5

[Drizztl · Rating 4 out of 5]

7,5/10

[Maria Manaia · Rating 5 out of 5]

delightful :')

[Josi · Rating 5 out of 5]

El epílogo de la historia del Mar Báltico es incluso mejor que la misma saga.

[Miriam · Rating 3 out of 5]

3.5
Sigurd, te amo.
No vi venir la boda, pero igual llore.😭
Estoy tan feliz por Thorfin.

[rion · Rating 5 out of 5]

his father is a scary man

[Silaart.b · Rating 5 out of 5]

Comme d’habitude j’ai adoré, mais voir Thorfinn et Gudrid fonder une famille ça m’a fait pleuré de joie 😭
Ils sont trop mignons ensemble 🥹

[nobody · Rating 3 out of 5]

(3,5)

[Paul Hiersemann · Rating 4 out of 5]

Großartige Story um Sigurd. Fand den Band fast perfekt. Es gab aber einen 2 Jährigen Timeskip, bei dem ich nicht weiß, ob er wirklich gut war oder lieber die Helden auf dieser Reise begleitet hätte.