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John the Eunuch #0.7

Velká kniha římských detektivek

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Některé události a osobnosti dějin starověkého Říma dodnes ožívají na stránkách knih i na filmovém plátně. V našem souboru povídek se ale i s nejznámějšími římskými hrdiny setkáte v jiné úloze, než jste zvyklí: Cicero tu např. vystupuje jako detektiv-amatér, Caesar se zjevuje jako hrůzostrašný duch, jehož tajemství se pokouší odhalit jiný slavný řečník Quintilianus, spisovatel Plinius Mladší se snaží přijít na kloub tomu, jak dokáže tajemný Muž s maskou zařídit, aby lidé vstávali z mrtvých. V dalších příbězích narazíme na Kleopatru, Marka Antonia, Nerona... ale poznáme i originální vyšetřovací metody předchůdců pozdějších profesionálních pátračů. Mezi detektivy najdeme i chytré otroky a propuštěnce... Prostředí povídek je rozmanité: odehrávají se nejen ve věčném městě Římě, ale zavádí nás i do temnými mýty opředené staré Británie, Jeruzaléma či Egypta. Tam všude se odehrávají tyto strhující detektivní příběhy.

480 pages, Hardcover

First published January 1, 2003

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Mike Ashley

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Michael Raymond Donald Ashley is the author and editor of over sixty books that in total have sold over a million copies worldwide. He lives in Chatham, Kent.

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July 2, 2022
Worth the Time.

I started reading this book a few months ago. It’s only 720 pages, but I put it down for awhile.

I’m glad I picked it back up because the stories became very interesting. The book is assembled around stories written during the nineties, but they are all historical mysteries. Based on the time of Ancient Rome.

The stories cover many different kinds of mysteries, but they are all good.

There are people from all walks of Roman life solving mysteries. One memorable story has a heroic slave. Many of the stories are located in the military. But they are still very good.

I’m sorry I put the book away after reading the first story because I ended up missing out on a great anthology.

The editor gives each story an introduction with information about the time period, the author and a hint about what the story will be about.

It’s a great combination. And a great book.
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October 8, 2011
Historical crime fiction is a very wide genre, and Roman crime fiction is one of the most difficult ones in my opinion- few get to give the stories both the intrigue of mystery and the classical flavour one would expect. But the selection here is very good- great authors of the genre like Steven Saylor, Peter Tremayne and Marilyn Todd offer entertaining and clever stories. The stories are ordained chronologically , from Caesar's times to the Fall of the Empire, which is great for those of us who love Roman history. Really good.
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April 23, 2023
Přiznávám, že mi to moc nesedlo a nebavilo mě to. Není to asi úplně pro mě, zdálo se mi často, že ty povídky neobstojí ani jako detektivky, ani jako historické příběhy.
Takže jsem přečetl a rychle zapomenu.
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January 2, 2024
review of
the Mike Ashley edited The Mammoth Book of Roman Whodunits
by tENTATIVELY, a cONVENIENCE - December 30, 2023 - January 1, 2024

The full review will be here: http://idioideo.pleintekst.nl/CriticR... eventually.

The 1st Roman historical bk I can remember reading was "The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius Antoninus" in a Harvard Classics edition that included Plato & Epictetus. I read that when I was confined as a research volunteer in a study 50 yrs ago. I remember finding it interesting.

After that I read Petronius's "Satyricon", no doubt inspired by witnessing Fellini's great movie based on it. Petronius had been sentenced to death by suicide & he would slit his wrists, not die, recuperate, write some more & slit his wrists again - folloiwng this pattern until he eventually died. That was amazing.

Finally, I read Suetonius's "Twelve Caesars". That, too, was excellent & quite an eye opener in its examination of the decadence of some of the Caesars.

Despite my finding all 3 of those bks completely engrossing, I've never become a Roman history buff. I reckon I prefer to concentrate on the more recent past, the present, & the near-future. Nonetheless, when I saw this Roman Whodunits I immediately figured it wd be a fun read - & it was! I really enjoyed it. The opening 2 paragraphs of Steven Saylor's Introduction are as follows:

"Towards the end of the last century (circa 1987), I took my first trip to Rome, and like many a traveller I was overwhelmed by the sensation of making visceral conact with the past. In no other city do so many layers of history coexist so palpably within such a small space. In a matter of hours one can follow Caesar's footsteps through the Forum, take a short rail excursion to the excavated ruins of Ostia, view the art of Michelangelo abd contemplate Papal intriques at the Vatican, gawk at the Fascist architecture at Mussolini's EUR, and even take a tour of the film studios at Cinecittá with their echoes of Fellini and La Dolce Vita.

"Inspired by that visit, and having developed an insatiable appetite for crime fiction, I found myself craving a murder mystery set in ancient Rome." - p xi

I wonder if there's porn set in ancient Rome? There's definitely SF.

I enjoyed all the stories but I wonder if the editor chose Tom Holt's "Never Forget" as the 1st story b/c of its particularly impactful twistiness. It worked for me as a great story to start off the collection w/.

""Fine," said Publius Cornelius Scipio, the World's Biggest Man, "but what does a philosopher actually do?"

"Your typical Roman question; ignorant, offensive and unpleasantly awkward to deal with. "We think about things," I said." - p 1

The philosopher is being asked to solve a murder.

""Marcus Vitellius Acer, Roman senator, sort of a second-cum-third cousin of mine. If you look closely, you'll see he's had his head bashed in. It'd be a great help to me if you could think about it, and tell me who did it."" - p 4

One of the main things I enjoyed about all the stories are the details of life at that time.

"It mean that Acer arrived at the place where he died and was killed in the short period of time between the senstries' last stroll down the alley, and the end of the nightwatch, which was when the body was found, according to Scipio. I worked out how long that period was by walking the route myself with my hand on my wrist, counting heartbeats." - p 10

Whoda thunkit? Timing something by counting heartbeats. It's not like they were using the stopwatch on their cell-phone.

On to "A Gladiator Dies Only Once" by Steven Saylor:

"The month was Junius, at the beginning of what promised to be a long, hot summer. The blue sky and undulating green hills were especially beautiful here in the Etrurian countryside outside the town of Saturnia, where Cicero and I, travelling separately from Rome, had arrived the day before to attend the funeral of a local magistrate." - p 27

I love those details: Junius, Etrurian, Saturnia, Cicero. Imagine a story written about where you live now but written by someone 800 yrs in the future. Everything in yr world wd seem 'exotic' & odd to the hypothetical future reader. 'Yes, this was once a city called "Pittsburgh" before the great razing, before it was turned into a giant demolition derby attraction & then flattened for cruiser-class spaceship landings. People of that time had individual buildings to live in before we realized how inefficient that was. Glory be that it was discovered that everyone could be inter-mattered & placed in storage altogether in a cylindrical container about 4 feet high & 2 feet in diameter when not working or being TV-fed!'

Of course, one of the things that most people know about ancient Rome is that there were gladiator matches. I recently read & wrote a review of Mack Reynolds's The Earth War ( https://www.goodreads.com/review/show... ) in wch he went into gladiator history. Not surprisingly, I'm on Spartacus's side. This story gives more history.

""Eventually, instead of simply strangling the captives, the Etruscans decided to have them fight each other, allowing the victors to live. We Romans took up the custom, and so developed the tradition of death-matches at the funerals of great men.["]" - p 31

What'll they think of next?!

On to Michael Jecks's "The Hostage to Fortune".

"They assume that their leaders are being held in foul conditions, because that's how they'd treat us; it's impossible to get them to realize the benefits of civilization. Well, how could they? They haven't the foggiest idea. Poor devils, living in their cold, draughty huts, sleeping on a pile of rags on packed earthy floors, if they were lucky . . . that's why we have a duty to invade them. It's their destiny – and ours. We have to lead them, and in the end they will learn to appreciate the benefits of Roman culture." - p 81

Yes, it's impossible to teach the Romans that not everyone wants their society imposed on them. Well, how could they? They've been raised with such an arrogant superiority complex that their heads are too far up their asses to be able to realize that not everybody thinks their shit smells like roses.

& then there's javelin design. Coincidentally, I was watching a Star Trek episode last night, after having rejected Star Trek for the last 60 years or however long it's been in existence, & it has Spock in charge of an exploratory mission that goes wrong. In it, he analyzes the construction of a javelin rather than mourning the person that's just been killed w/ it. Small world.

"They even tried to throw back our own javelins, but they were designed to stop that. Each point had a soft, deforming, section of steel behind the hardened tip, which made them fly badly once they'd been used, and we were safe from their return." - p 92

CLE-VER.

John Maddox Roberts's "The Will".

""I am Caesar's heir and I've come to claim what i[s] mine by right!" The way he said this was profoundly unsettling. In spite of myself, I was reminded of our recently deceased Dictator.

""You were Caesar's friend," Agrippa said. "You are married to his niece. You should want to see his will carried out."

""I would very much like to see the provisions of Caesar's will carried out," I told them. "He left me a generous bequest. But what I really, truly want abovve all is not to be murdered like he was. Bring murdered is a messy business and it can ruin a perfectly good toga. Defying Antonius is a good way to get murdered.["]" - pp 121-122

Now that people don't usually wear togas anymore what excuse do we have for avoiding being murdered?

""Clodius came of the family of the Claudia Nerones, who are insane. Octavian's heritage is that of Octavius and Atius and, most importantly, Caesar, all fine and sensible families." She had a patrician's grasp of family connections. She also had their blindness to the fact that it is wealth that determines any family's importance, not any splendid qualities they are fancied to have inherited." - p 126

So just who did Caeser leave everything to?

""Brutus!" Julia all but shrieked. "He left everyhting to Brutus! I can't believe it! He adopted Octavian!"" - p 139

Irony, anyone?

Marilyn Todd's "Honey Moon".

"Rome needed babies. As the Empire swelled, so did its population, but it was swelling with the offspring of slaves, not baby citizens."

[..]

"Widows of childbearing age had two years in which to find themselves a new husband. And if it wasn't a man of her choosing, then by Jupiter, she would be force to accept the choice of the State." - p 150

& WE complain?

Philip Boast's "Damnum Fatale".

"It was a windy night outside the Villa Marcia. The shutters rattled, setting the candles flickering as he bent over the books. Fascinating. A new invention, far easier to read than scrolls. A whole new class of book-writers had sprung up almost overnight, seizing the new medium to air crazy personal views about – anything. Anything at all."

[..]

"Books. Easy to hand round, quick to slip under clothes, small enough to be taken out and read aloud to men of the low sort, women, even slaves. Fashionable enough to impress the well-off, often written in the form of personal letters to increase the reader's sense of self-importance, of being party to a privleged communication." - p 171

Lest we forget.

"She said: "I have come because you're the one man in Rome who is not afraid."

"He said nothing for a while. This could be a very dangerous conversation. The Emperor Nero was subtle and devious and believed himself all-powerful; his mother his mother had murdered his adopted father the Emperor Claudius, and Nero himself had murdered Claudius's young son, and then his own mother, then his wife. No doubt he had not stopped there. Any man in Rome with sense was afraid. "Am I unafraid?" he said. "Perhaps you know more than I do."" - p 176

If you find that sort of thing interesting I highly recommend the afore-mentioned Suetonius's Twelve Caesars.

Simon Scarrow's "Heads You Lose".

"Even this chance to slake their bloodlust and taste for booty had failed to rally the legions. They knew that they would pay a high price before the seige was over. The surviving factions of the Judean rebels were a game lot, and knew that they could expect no mercy from the Romans. The would fight with the frim desperation of the already dead, each one determined to take as many legionaries as possible with them to whatever afterlife the Jews believed in." - p 199

Michael Kurland's "Great Caeser's Ghost".

One thing that caught my attn right away was this part of the intro bio:

"Michael Kurland has established a solid reputation in the fields of science fiction, crime fiction and rock music – he edited the music paper Crawdaddy for some years." - p 222

Crawdaddy! That's almost as ancient as the Roman times in this bk! Well, ok, not quite, it folded in 1979 after being a pretty successful rock magazine for 13 yrs. I'm shocked to find that I don't seem to have a single issue of it in my aRCHIVE.

I hearken back to Petronius again:

"If my mentor had somehow incurred the emperor's displeasure, would Vespasian throw him into a dungeon, or send him home to commit honorable suicide" - p 224

Gotta love it:

""When the improbable passes over into the impossible, the wall of truth has been breached," he said.

""I can't write it down," I told him. "Very nice, whatever it means, but I can't write it down."

""But it doesn't have . . . yes, I suppose you're right. See if you can remember it to include in my collection of aphorisms for the young."' - p 247

If I had an amanuensis hanging about I think they'd have a nervous breakdown w/in a wk. It just wdn't be fair to them.

Caroline Lawrence's "Bread and Circuses".

"But Nubia was not looking at the trough. She was looking at the place where years of donleys' hooves had worn a ring into the stone floor.

""See the flour coming out?" Porcius was saying to her. "This millstone makes the finest flour for our best rolls."

""He seems wretched," whispered Nubia. "Behold where his fur is rubbing off his shoulders."

""It doesn't hurt them much." Porcius said. "Animals don't feel pain like people do. Come on, Nubia. I'll show you where we mix the flour with water to make the dough."" - p 291

I particularly like the above touch. Some young people are trying to solve a crime so they've tricked another young person to show them around a bakery where a donkey is being used to turn a grindstone. One of the young people notices the donkey's suffering. So true, eh? One imagines that it wd've been true in ancient Rome as much as it wd be today.

"Porcius nodded. "Pater beat the slaves yesterday to see if they knew anything about some missing bread rolls." He noticed the look on Nubia's face. "It doesn't hurt them much," Porcius said. "Slaves don't feel pain like other people."" - p 297

& then the bakery boy uses the same rationalization to justify abuse of humans that he did for abuse of animals.

More historical details of interest to me:

"Flavia lingered at the top of the stairs, and ntoiced that the slave girl carried a bath-set: a bronze ring with strigil, tweezers, ear-scoop and oil-pot attached." - p 293

After I was arrested for & made infamous for my "Poop & Pee Dog Copyright Violation Ceremony" in Sept, 1983, I was approached by a Jewish mystic who challenged me to decipher this 'magic square' that I was already familiar w/ but that didn't really mean anything to me:

"SATOR
AREPO
TENET
OPERA
ROTAS" - p 305

Now I encounter it in "Bread and Circuses".

""Your magic square was the clue I needed," said Flavia. "The palindrome." Flavia opened her wax tablet and held the clay oil-lamp up to it. "I realized that if you arrange the letters in the shape of a cross, they spell out PATER NOSTER twice with an A and an O left over. Alpha and omega: the beginning and the end."

[..]

""Is Arepo another name for your god?"

"He nodded. "It's a secret name for God's son, whom we worship."" - p 318

There're many stories that feature the way Christianity was 1st outlawed & then adopted by the Roman Empire. This contributed to my realizing that the Roman Empire never exactly fell, instead it transformed into the Catholic Church & is still with us.

"The Missing Centurion" - Anonymous.

In the intro to this story I learned that crime stories set in ancient Roman times are a modern invention:

"If it really does date from 1862 then it's the earliest crime story with a Roman setting that I have read." - p 321

Now I'll be on the lookout for earlier examples.

Darrell Schweitzer's "Some Unpublished Correspodence of the Younger Pliny".

More historical detail of interest to me:

"Tragically for the Flavian emperors, under whose rule it started so promisingly with Vespasian, it ended all too familiarly with the reign of terror of Domitian's final years. But thankfully better days were to come and after the brief reign of the elderly Nerva, Trajan became emperor. He would be both popular and successful." - p 341

This story has Christians operating in secret.

"they secreted themselves, night after night, to a necropolis outside the city, where they participated in the abominable rites of the Chrestianoi. The leader of the cult seemd to be some awesome personage, a thaumaturge called the Masked One, who promised, among other things, that his followers would live forever in the flesh and need never fear death. This presumably would allow them to continue in carnal rites until the end of time" - p 347

In another review I probably described a cartoon that I saw once that showed Christians in all black robes worshipping the crucified Christ. In the next panel the same people were ridiculing some mostly naked black people worshipping a statue of a man w/ a huge erect penis. Do you ever think about how weird & occult Christian beliefs are? Christ was born to a virgin who was inseminated by God?! How many Christian cults have there been run by megalomaniacs out for all sorts of demented thrills?

"under a variety of assumed names, and presenting himself to his followers in a mask, claiming that his face was too holy to look uponand that he was an actual contemporary of Jesus — which would make him more than a hundred years old, unaged and (so he asserted) immortal.

"This much I learned mostly from him during his interogation, after which he proved quite mortal when I had him executed.

"Therefore I am writing to you, sir, to assure you that this time the pestilence of Chrestianoi has been eradicated" - p 360

Jean Davidson's "A Golden Opportunity".

Enter the Druids, or something.

""Sir — in my opinion his throat was cut and his blood drained. Look how pale he is. His blood was taken from him."

[..]

""It's said that that is the way their priests – wild men called Druids – carry out their sacrifices. Others say that they never made human sacrifice but only worshipped trees and rivers."" - p 375

"We are going to build a wall. The greatest the world has ever seen, with towers and forts all along it to protect our land. It will stretch from one sea to the other, either side of this island and we, men, are going to help build it." - p 380

Hadrian's wall, I don't think I'd ever heard of it before. The extremely shallow that I did about it after reading this section taught me that the ambition of having be such'n'such a size & all stone apparently had to give way to more practical methods in which part of the wall was turf. I think it's interesting. Apparently the wall's been mostly scavenged since the Romans left Britain & that makes sense but I sortof wish it's stayed intact. I wonder if Rump, The Idiot King, modelled himself after Hadrian w/ his wall between the US & Mexico, one of the stupidest things, IMO, that Rump ever put forth. Why, it's obvious that the US needs a force field bubble around it instead. If the Romans had only held out a little longer they wd've come up w/ that. But, 1st, they wd've had to refine their time-keeping a bit further.

The full review will be here: http://idioideo.pleintekst.nl/CriticR... eventually.
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May 16, 2021
I continue on my kick of reading short-story anthologies featuring historical detective fiction, most recently with “The Mammoth Book of Roman Whodunnits,” edited by Mike Ashley, which covers the history of the Roman Empire from Octavian to the so-called Dark Ages. Most of the 20 stories here are original to this 2003 anthology, aside from one from 1952, another from 1966 and a third, anonymous tale that might have been published as early as the 1860s. As ever, readers will differ on their favourites, but here are mine: “A Gladiator Dies Only Once,” by Steven Saylor, featuring Gordianus the Finder; the 1952 tale “De Crimine,” by Miriam Allen deFord, in which Cicero saves the day; a John Maddox Ford entry in his SPQR series, “The Will”; Michael Kurland’s “Great Caesar’s Ghost,” in which Orator Quintilian solves Vespasian’s ghost problem; the anonymous tale from, possibly, the 1860s, “The Missing Centurion”; the long-titled “Some Unpublished Correspondence of the Younger Pliny,” by Darrell Schweitzer, an epistolary story concerning early Christians and a conman; “The Lost Eagle,” by Peter Tremayne, featuring Sister Fidelma, who is asked to find the lost Eagle of the Ninth; and my favourite overall, Marilyn Todd’s “Honey Moon,” wherein wine seller Claudia exacts appropriate revenge. Mike Ashley’s introductions to each story are entertaining and useful, providing information about the authors and the time period in which they have set their story, and while the above are my personal favourites, there really isn’t a bad story in the batch; recommended!
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November 8, 2009
I loved this collection of short stories! My favourite would have to be Marilyn Todd's "Honey Moon", featuring her detective, Claudia Seferius. That was the story that introduced me to her wonderful Claudia novels.
Profile Image for TammyJo Eckhart.
Author 23 books130 followers
February 18, 2019
I love the mysteries from Steven Saylor and Rosemary Rowe so I thought this would be a great collection. They each have a story in this collection. Both are good, Rowe's better than Saylor's. I was also very impressed with Wallace Nichols older story; it made me want to try and find his other work. Caroline Lawrence's children's story was also interesting but I didn't think it did the period justice. In fact, maybe because I study ancient history (and just taught a college level Roman History course in the spring of 2004) I couldn't get over some of the historical problems with several of the stories in this collection. For example Michael Jecks' piece was full of very odd words that just did not fit in the context of his chosen time period and that made it very difficult for me to read. Other stories just didn't have main characters that grapped me. *shrug* Large collections are generall so-so in quality so I guess I should not have been very surprised.
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November 17, 2019
As with any anthology, there are going to be winners and losers; not all of the stories are going to be must-reads. However, Mike Ashley does a pretty good job presenting Roman-themed stories from different eras and across the Roman world. Two of my favourite characters were represented: Gordianus the Finder and Sister Fidelma (yes, I know Fidelma is from Ireland which was never Roman but this adventure places her in England dealing with the Eagle from a lost Legion)
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February 29, 2020
This book does an excellent job of sampling "the extraordinary reach of Rome across both seas and centuries". The variety of detectives helped carry those one or two stories that weren't as fresh as the rest. The introductions to each story were the perfect amount of information (and easily skipped if that's your preference) to give the reader a direction to look for more reading material from each author/time period for the piece(s) that you fancy best.
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April 29, 2015
I used this to get an idea of which authors of Roman mysteries I liked. It didn't have my favorite Lindsey Davis, but got me started on a few I will keep reading.
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