Shy Miwa has always dreamed of finding love, but living in small-town Japan made finding the right match difficult—especially since she likes girls! Even going away to college didn’t seem to help, until one day her outgoing classmate Saeko suggests they might as well start dating each other since it’s not like either of them has other options.
Miwa and Saeko are loving the couple life, but a miscommunication in the bedroom proves to be more of a threat to the easy rhythm of their relationship than either thought possible. After all, the past is hard to leave behind, especially when Miwa is invited to a reunion with some of her high school friends, including the first love she never really got over.
Miwa and Saeko are dating, which means that things should be nothing but sunshine and roses… right? Well, it turns out that they’ve both brought a lot of baggage with them on this journey and they’re none too excited to start unpacking it, especially Saeko. So the answer to How Do We Relationship?, as it turns out, happens to be ‘poorly’.
During my review of the second volume, I commented that I had seen some other reviews suggesting that Saeko and Miwa were better off apart and disagreed with them. Well, that was then and this is now. I still think there’s a future for these two, but it’s going to require a lot more work than we traditionally see in a romance title.
Saeko, despite her easygoing demeanour, turns out to be so easygoing because she simply won’t deal with anything that upsets her and just shoves it to one side or just puts up with it. We get the first inkling of this when she and Miwa are at Saeko’s house and her entire set of middle school yearbooks are missing. There’s clearly a lot more to that story than the little tidbits we get.
Then there’s their sex life and, well, this is another situation I didn’t see coming. It turns out that Saeko is a giver, but not much of a receiver, which doesn’t sit very well with Miwa, who doesn’t want to be the sole beneficiary of the couple’s private time. It’s an interesting turn - you’d have thought the inexperienced Miwa would have been more uptight about this, but Saeko is super upset about Miwa’s insistence that they try. When she gives in and actually puts up with it, well, that goes about as well as you’d expect.
The back part of this book involves Saeko’s jealousy flaring out of control again and her just biting her tongue and taking it, as Miwa is off to her high school reunion. We get a very extended, very eye-opening digression into Miwa’s origins and that whole thing ends with one hell of a proposition. Not to be outdone, somebody new is starting at Saeko’s workplace and they seem to be hitting it off just fine.
Yeah, we’ve entered the double rival situation and for once it’s very hard to say whether our two leads are actually going to come through this. There’s that little bit of doubt that some books eke out, and then there’s this whole situation that’s already gotten completely out of hand because people aren’t being up front about anything (arguably Miwa is, but she’s now pushing too hard because Saeko can’t seem to say what she wants).
Unlike many yuri, I particularly like this one because it feels a lot more realistic and doesn’t just seem to be going for the happy ending. There’s some real emotion behind this and between all of the above and one disastrous bowling night with the band (ugh, that one guy who likes Miwa, knows she’s gay, but CANNOT let it go is just the worst), there’s plenty of high drama this time around.
4.5 and I think we’ll bump it up. The art is a little too same-y with the faces, but this book knows how to go for the feels like few others, between Miwa’s sexual awakening (thanks mom), her awkward relationship with Saeko, and Saeko’s excessive baggage, it’s hard to say where this could be heading, but I know I’ll be here to find out.
I'm still really interested in the arc of their relationship, but this volume didn't seem to have any of the positives of them together--which makes sense for this part of this story, but didn't make for a read I really enjoyed.
edit: okay I can write a real review now. I just... This manga! The topics it touches on are so much deeper than anything I would expect from a licensed yuri.
This volume talks about dissociation during sex, trying to deal with sex-aversion while in a relationship and all-in-all discusses sex in such a complex and meaningful way that was a delight to read. There's a lot of other things happening in the plot that are also well-written, such as coping with unrequited crushes. The extent of trust and openness in relationships is explored as well, with multiple perspectives on the "right" way to handle a relationship when it comes to past trauma or other skeletons in the closet.
It's just so refreshing to see a lesbian relationship handled with the same thought and care as a straight relationship in a romance manga. It's not all focused on homophobia, but homophobia is also not completely ignored. I don't know how many times I can say this, but PLEASE read this series if you haven't already.
Not sure if I'll continue this series. It's fine, but there are so many of their problems that could be solved by just one to two sentences of communication.
In the first half of the book, Miwa and Saeko encounter a snag in the physical part of their relationship resulting from a communication breakdown in how much of their pasts they want to share or keep secret. A timely high school reunion invite kicks off an extended flashback in the second half to Miwa's high school years and her first crush, letting the audience in on her secrets and how they are going to crash into the present day.
I’m not sure what’s happening. What I know is that they’re only together bc they were the first lesbians each other met. Their sex scenes make me uncomfortable bc neither girl is really into it. And basically one girl keeps talking about how bad the other girl is at everything. Like teach her then. Stop making yourself do things that you don’t want to do.
Look, I tried my hardest to like How Do We Relationship? but I just can't warm to a story about a couple that is so ill suited, and then such a large portion of this instalment was about Shiho who I just don't care about at all.
I gave it a red hot go, but I'm calling it quits on this manga, unless I find someone who can lend me the rest of the series.
not quite 2.5 but not 3. ok saeko you better not start pissing me off bc your stone top ass is on thin ice. you wanna be a stone top, fine whatever i dont honestly care. The problem is you aren't being open with Miwa. If you explain to her why you feel this way, everything would be better instead of her trying to please you and you just being judgmental the whole time. My favorite thing about this series was how open they are and that was just thrown out the window this time. I like Tsuruta's growth arc and realizing he can change his love for Miwa into a platonic admiration relationship instead of romantic. I think it would be cute if he got with Usshi. I totally understand this first love thing with Shiho but I just know its gonna cause problems and I dont wanna deal with the aftermath.
update july: buna da yazmayı unutmuşum review. pride için tatlış bir mangaydı. ayrıca bir tık daha adult olmasını beğendim, hep cık cık romance okuyacak değiliz ya. çiftin uyumu bence MÜKEMMEL. ancak büyüüüük red flag’ler var ve gerçekçi olarak gittikçe daha belirgin olmaya ve ilişkiye zarar vermeye başlıyorlar. bir sonraki vol. de büyük ihtimalle ayrılacak yani çiftimiz. sırf bu nedenden dolayı okumayı bırakıyorum sorry not sorry NDKDKFKFKFKF
PS: beeeelkiiii gelecekte buradan devam edebilirim. ama bunun gerçekleşme oranı %3 falan.
abort mission! retreat!!! I DONT LIKE THIS. what is going on I am scared. No because Saeko is gonna have her heart broken fr I am scared of this development
This is probably the strongest volume yet of the series. Although I have some quibbles, such as the hoary plot device of suspiciously precise timing (a character expresses a desire to avoid a certain subject when, lo, people involved in that very topic materialize despite being heretofore unseen), there is quite a bit of verisimilitude to the developments and interpersonal interactions. For our two protagonists, we see substantially increased depth, as insecurities and unexpected strengths are explored. Side characters, both old and new, are also given solid attention as well. The last few chapters especially were quite the page turners.
c'est d'une justesse que j'ai rarement vu en manga pour parler de relation lesbienne. obsessed. beaucoup plus deep que le premier volume de que le deuxième. hâte de lire la suite.
We get a glimpse of Saeko's youth, and we get a flashback story about Miwa's first unrequited (? Or is it?) Love. Saeko still is having issues sexually, and it's becoming a problem between her and Miwa. It seems she's got MAJOR skeletons in her closet! It's almost alluded to, a male figure is referenced, but we get no further details. There's still a lot Saeko isn't able to talk about. Ooh, this girl is really hurting BAD! She needs professional help, before she breaks Miwa's heart! Then later, Miwa has decided to go to her high school reunion. Her first love, Shiho, is there. She spends the whole night reminiscing with Miwa, keeps getting her alone, and makes a number of comments that insinuate that maybe Miwa's first love wasn't as one-sided as she thought it was. Now, at the end of the night, Miwa has told none of the girls, including Shiho, that she is gay and has a girlfriend. Then suddenly,, Shiho finally comes straight out with it, and we realize that Miwa is going to be tempted like she never has before. Why now? After all this time? What is Shiho up to? Especially since she basically ghosted Miwa for several years... Let's hope none of this gets back to Saeko, she's already insecure too much as it is...
Oof, the conflict in this book hits so much harder than in the previous one. The flashbacks to a character in Miwa's past were really emotionally rough, but I thought the story handled them well. I love how Miwa and Saeko's relationship doesn't play out totally smoothly, but it's still sweet and they care so much about each other. Their problems feel rooted in realistic flaws, not the kind of romcom mistakes where you can't believe someone would act so poorly.
Miwa and Saeko has been dating for four months now?! Things are going pretty good except Saeko is not being entirely honest about her feelings..
In general I don’t like it when a romance stories start to focus so much on sex, instead of the actual romance. Saeko’s situation also feels rather hypocritical, she was somewhat pushy about getting physical with Miwa in the beginning (although, thankfully, the consent was entirely Miwa’s) but now that Miwa would like to touch her as well, Saeko is getting uncomfortable. I completely get that someone doesn’t want to be touched or isn’t interested in sex, that is absolutely fine.
But seeing that Saeko put so much emphasis on being able to touch Miwa in the beginning and even pondered about dumping her if she didn’t put out, and now she is upset that Miwa would want to do the same things to her.. it all just feels real hypocritical. If she had these issues why wasn’t she more understanding with Miwa in the beginning? Like Saeko said, things are starting to feel a bit one sided between them. Miwa is getting pretty comfortable in their relationship, meeting the parents, doting on baby photos and wanting to open up and share about past heartbreaks. However, Saeko is pulling away and keeping her at a distance. There is definitely something deeper going on in the background, some hang up Saeko has from her teenager years but the girls are bound for a disaster without proper communication.
In the previous volume it was questioned if Saeko and Miwa are really right for each other and I feel like this volume and the next will put that to test. Saeko got a new, cute coworker so I expect some factor of jealousy and drama happening later on there. At the same time Miwa just reunited with her highschool crush and it turns out.. her feelings weren’t so unrequited.
I don’t want to speak against Saeko but after the flashbacks I definitely am rooting for Shiho. Her memories shared with Miwa were really heartfelt and they share a much deeper connection than the half-hearted “let’s go out bc we’re both into woman” idea of Saeko’s and Miwa’s relationship.
I know I am definitely going to pick up the next volume hoping for more Shiho, but, even if something happens with her and Miwa I just hope it won’t involve cheating.
3.75 stars Diesen Band fand ich leider nicht so stark wie die ersten beiden. Es mag aber uch an den Themen, die angesprochen wurden, liegen. Etwas,, womit ich persönlich in Beziehungen Probleme habe ist, wenn jemand offensichtlich lügt bzw. etwas verbirgt. In der Hinsicht kann ich Miwa verstehen, denn ich würde an ihrer Stelle Saeko auch gerne mehr kennenlernen und das, was sie verbirgt, wirkt sich halt auch auf ihre Beziehung aus. Andererseits verstehe ich auch Saeko, dass sie kein trauma dumping betreiben will, vor allem, da sie offenbar selbst noch nicht damit klar kommt. Ich hätte mir hier mehr eine Mitte erhofft, dass Saeko einfach sagt, dass es zwar was gibt, sie aber (noch) nicht drüber sprechen kann oder will. Anstelle immer nur einen auf happy go lucky zu machen und sich zu etwas zwingen - was halt dann auch für Miwa nicht schön ist. Miwa jedoch … idk. Ich bin froh, dass wir ihre Vergangenheit erfahren, aber trotzdem gibt mir diese ganze Situation mit Shiho leider possible minimal cheating vibes. Es ist vollkommen okay, dass sie ihren Oberschulfreunden nichts von ihrer sexuellen Orientierung sagen möchte, aber es ist schon offensichtlich, dass Shiho mehr von ihr will, und da sollte sie die Schlusslinie ziehen, anstatt total flustered zu werden. Ich bin gespannt, wie sie das löst. Denn sie denkt zumindest an Saeko. Trotz all diesem, finde ich die Reihe weiterhin wirklich gut, weil sie die Dinge doch ziemlich realistisch darstellt und nicht, wie in anderen Reihen, alles sofort seine Lösung hat. Bin gespannt, wie es nun weitergeht, denn ohne das sich etwas ändert, wird es schwierig.
Zusammenfassung Sae ist relativ verschlossen Miwa gegenüber und will ihr nicht von ihrer Mittelschule erzählen / bestimmte Dinge nicht erzählen und „belügt“ sie. Ebenfalls möchte sie nicht den passiven Part beim miteinander Schlafen übernehmen, weil es sie selbst anwidert an sich zu denken (don’t know how to explain). Sie möchte lieber aktiv sein und Miwa Lust bereiten, statt selber diese zu erfahren. Beim Bowling mit ihren Freunden landen Miwa und Tsuruta (er mag Miwa) in ein Fotobooth und Tsurata gesteht ihr wieder seine Liebe und bekommt wieder eine Abweisung. Miwa geht zu einem Klassentreffen und ihr damaliger Crush ist auch da. Sie unterhalten sich und sie will mit Miwa noch die restliche Nacht verbringen. Während ihrer Unterhaltung denkt Miwa zum Beispiel daran sie zu küssen, denkt generell viel an sie auf eine romantische Weise.
Was ich nicht mochte ist Tsuratas Ansicht gegenüber Miwa, dass sie keine Männer lieben kann. Er kann das nicht verstehen und fragt sie (nach Abweisung, Erklärung und während sie in einer Beziehung mit einer Frau ist) ob sie denn nie wieder Männer lieben würde, was ich ziemlich respektlos finde. Sae könnte vielleicht im Ace-spec sein, was ich ziemlich cool fände. Insgesamt nervt mich aber Sae‘s Charakter ein wenig, obwohl ich mich selbst in ihr sehr wieder erkenne.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
Forget everything positive I said about Saeko in my volume 2 review... I completely DISLIKE her now. For real. She doesn’t want being touched (sexually) but pretty much pushed Miwa into being touched herself?? Couldn’t even show some kind of sympathy/empathy and understand that Miwa isn’t ready to be touched?? And even had the audacity to ask what’s so bad about sex?? Dude, you don’t even want someone to do you yourself!! Geez, people like that are such f*cking a**holes. Treat others how they want but if they get treated like that, they suddenly get emotional or find that it’s not okay. Screw you.😤🤬
I hope Miwa ends up with someone else because Saeko surely is a total douchebag. I feel sorry for Miwa for having lost her virginity to someone like Saeko. Makes me sick. 😷
I really love that we got the backstory of miwa’s first love tho! It was really refreshing, not to have Saeko in it. At first I was like, yea i could ship Miwa with Shiho. But then... well, I guess it was just that between them. A first. Not that they’re not shippable, just that it was a lot going on back then and a relationship probably would’ve been too stressful.
Although, if Miwa wouldn’t be together with Saeko, I think I could see a potential romance between Shiho and Miwa. (I mean, Shiho is totally flirting with Miwa at the present...)
I really enjoyed this volume for the complexities of sexuality it portrays. The first half is focused on Miwa and Saeko's exploration of sex in their relationship, and the complications surrounding it--specifically regarding Saeko. I could definitely relate to Saeko's insecurities around feeling out of her body and out of control.
We're also introduced to another conflict: other potential love interests. I usually hate this trope in romance media because it just seems like unnecessary drama, but Tamifull does it well here. In the second half of the volume, we meet Shiho, Miwa's crush from high school. Their relationship back then was actually really sweet. (And I personally like Shiho more than Saeko... Shhhhh.) Shiho and Miwa meet again at a high school reunion, and their chemistry is definitely still there. I'm interested to see where their relationship goes. I hope they can at least stay in each other's lives, because it's clear that they mean a lot to each other.
I also think it's freaking hilarious that Miwa's lesbian awakening came from watching an American high school drama. That really parallels my experience watching Glee.
Both Miwa and Saeko are keeping secrets about their past relationships that are causing conflicting series for the present, and we jump into a flashback about Miwa's past and her first crush. It informs a lot of who she is today as a fundamental development of her personality, and makes sense considering the arc she's gone through so far in her relationship with Saeko.
I find it interesting that this volume doesn't have much of Miwa and Saeko's relationship, or what we do see is stressed and having them both confused. I'd like to say it's because we're starting to see some of the pieces of themselves that they try to keep secret, either out of embarrassment or shame or maybe just because each of them doesn't fully understand that part of themselves yet. And there are more outside forces and third parties testing their relationship (some not entirely on purpose), something they'll need to overcome and grow from. But the lies they're telling themselves and each other (and other people) might start building up soon because this isn't looking very sunshine and rainbows and butterflies.
Pros - LGBTQ representation - Cute art style - Deals with difficult subject matter in a mature, non-fetishizing way (e.g. self-image and sex, parental and societal expectations, etc) - Shows a side character deal with unrequited love in a mostly healthy way
Cons - The "antagonist" from the previous volume doesn't even appear in this one (though the character is briefly alluded to). It's not that I want them to have more screen time, I just found it a bit odd. - Just like in the previous volume, there are times when I just wanted the protagonists to have an honest talk; some of the work's conflict could've been resolved more easily if they did. It's not that this doesn't make sense in context (they've only been together for 4 months, for example); it can get a bit emotionally draining to see it happen chapter after chapter, though.
Conclusion It didn't hit me as hard as the past two volumes, but I enjoyed it enough to finish and I'll likely pick up the next volume.
Getting an in depth look into Miwa's first crush and the realization she likes women was the strongest part of this volume. Tamifull once again brought up some great points about society's framing of relationships, and the importance of letting one build at your own pace vs. how the world wants to paint it. In getting a chapter from Shiho's perspective and also seeing more from her, I understand the importance of her friendship with Miwa from her side, and how it might have led to feelings on her end she didn't know how to deal with at the time. Her family situation sounds horrific.
Despite this expanded development, I will not be continuing this series due to the main relationship framing. The lack of communication between Miwa and Saeko is starting to bug me. I agree with Jordan's review in that regard. Looking ahead at the direction How Do We Relationship? is going, I also don't think I'll enjoy it as much, especially since its side characters are now becoming more engrossing, and I want more content with them.
Again, not sure how to rate this, but I did enjoy it more than the previous volume! In particular, the struggles around sexual shame were written really well, oof. It was nice getting to see a more vulnerable side of Saeko, but ugh she still needs to be upfront about her emotions. She’s making me anxious! Probably because I do the same shit irl! Oh god! someone tell her abt stone tops🥀🥀
And Miwa backstory reveal!! Obviously I’m scared with how her highschool friend is going to complicate things with Saeko, but I do love the context about how she discovered her sexuality, and the panels of her gradually falling for her classmate as a teen (those were adorable and brought back so many memories of my first love as a baby gay).
TL;DR: This series raises my blood pressure, but I do love how it tackles different issues I experience on a regular basis as a college age queer w/ little relationship history😅