ГОСТИНИ У ЧОРТА! Щороку, в ніч перед літнім сонцестоянням, Віктор фон Дум сходиться у битві з силами пекла в надії врятувати душу своєї матері. Та лише заручившись поміччю Доктора Стренджа, Дум нарешті отримує шанс на перемогу. Ці двійко неочікуваних союзників мають вирушити до царства Мефісто… та чи готові вони заплатити за душу ту ціну, яку вимагатиме Князь Темряви? Під обкладинкою ви знайдете одну з найкращих оповідей про Доктора Дума, дві додаткові історії про Дума й Стренджа, які виступають прологом, а також кілька коротких мальсторій про Неймора Підводника з малюнком легендарного Майка Міньйоли!
Збірка містить графічний роман «Доктор Стрендж і Доктор Дум: тріумфи й муки», мальопис «Доктор Стрендж №57», а також матеріали з мальописів «Дивовижні Історії №8» та «Чудесні фанфари №16» і №43, сценаристами яких виступили Роджер Стерн, Джеррі Конвей та Білл Ментло, а художниками — Майк Міньйола, Кевін Ноулан та Джин Колан.
Let's kick start this one with all the bad catchphrases I made up for this review! *Clears throat*
Get ready, kids....A Strange Doom is coming your way!
Be patient.... The Doctors will see you now!
Hell has never been this hot! Because, the doct.. Okay, I'm gonna stop now.
Day of Magic Every hundred years, the magic realm holds a magician's fight club to recognize the most powerful sorcerer among them.
The first rule of the Fight Club: You DO NOT talk about the fight club in any realms. The second rule of the Fight Club: Winner have to offer his services to the runner-up.
Hey, don't look at me. The magicians are weird peoples. Their game, their rules!
Anyways, guess which doctor won and which doctor came second.
As the runner-up, Doctor Doom demands Doctor Strange go to hell..... with him to save his mother's soul which has been imprisoned by none other than the master of Hell, Mephisto! *A picture of Mephisto nailing evil laugh*
This is my new favorite Marvel graphic novel from the 80's. The story offers a striking characterization for one of the coolest Marvel Villain and creates an awesome team-up while doing that. I enjoyed Roger Stern's writing immensely. It was the perfect "Sympathy for the Devil" story arc. As for the art, Mike Mignola did a great job in certain panels. The rest were average.
Now, this edition contains some extras. One of them is a spectacular segment from 1971 featuring Doom's failed attempt to save his mother. The rest of the segments are just fillers to pad this edition. ---------------------------- Someone give the poor man a cookie!
There is something awesome about a good magic based comic. Roger Stern, someone I am not familiar with, does a wonderful job with this truly masterful tale of power and magic. Mike Mignola is the artist and while his art style isn't as polished as what it later becomes, it is still quite good.
In many ways this is an origin story. We will see how Doom and Strange both came to be the men they became. An incredible old and extremely powerful Sorcerer known as the Aged Genghis sends out a mystical signal. Only mages of the highest caliber even hear the call. The are instructed to gather at a lost temple to attend the call of the Aged Genghis. The last two to arrive are Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom. The Test is designed by the godlike Vishanti to determine the next Sorcerer Supreme. Dr. Strange ends up winning the contest and earns the title. But, all is not done! The "runner-up" and the only one, other than Dr. Strange, left standing is Dr. Doom. According to the laws of the test, Dr. Strange must grant Dr. Doom a boon. It is at this point, an already wonderful tale of magic and sorcerer's takes the next step and moves into the truly cosmic levels of power and the story becomes truly epic. Dr. Doom wants Dr. Strange's help in going to Hades and rescuing his mother-whose soul is in the hands of Mephisto. What follows is an epic battle between Doom and Strange against the forces of Mephisto and then, the Lord of Hades himself.
The writing was very well done and the story is well crafted. This is a great portrayal of Doom, Strange and Mephisto. All three characters are done phenomenally. Doom does come off as arrogant but brilliant. Mephisto is also very well done. I like the version of Mephisto where he looks like the Devil, and not Romita's version. Mignola's art isn't as polished as what he later churned out for Hellboy. But, that being said, it works well for this tale. Some of the splash pages are very well done. Mignola's Strange, Doom and Mephisto are all well illustrated. Stern's interpretation of Doom's origin is excellent, as is his portrayal of Doom as the benevolent ruler of Latveria.
All in all this is how great tales of magic, betrayal, power and the Devil Himself ought to be written. A tight, exciting tale with some good twists make this is wonderful one shot. If you are a Dr. Doom, Dr. Strange or Mephisto fan this is a must read. Even if you don't count any of those three among your top characters, this is still a good read because of the great story Stern writes. A great version of the Strange/Doom interactions.
Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom; or is it Doctor Doom and Doctor Strange? The Fantastic Four's once and future arch-nemesis is a complex and layered character that needs to be released from the mediocrity of recent Fantastic Four movie adaptations. The Latverian monarch can be a compelling villain as Tom Hiddleston's Loki in Joss Whedon's The Avengers.
The growth of Doctor Doom as multi-faceted character can be attributed to the many writers that have handled the scripts of the Fantastic Four comic books through the years. A hint here, a panel there, until there was enough interest to merit a single issues. Through the decades, these backstories accumulated until writer Roger Stern took these snippets of Doom's past and melded them as an integral plot point in this graphic novel. The gypsy roots, his parents' tragic ends, his science, his magic and the lonely annual ritual he undergoes to save his mother's soul. Stern never loses track of his Doom and effectively hijacks the top billing away from Doctor Strange.
Writer Stern is aided superbly in this story by the talents of Mike Mignola, who does the pencils and the layouts, and Mark Badger, who inks and paints. It is fitting that in this edition of the graphic novel, early Doom and Strange stories are included, as well as early rarely seen Mignola Marvel work.
If you're new to the character of Dr. Strange and looking for more stories after being introduced to it because of the Benedict Cumberbatch, the Sorcerer Supreme is pretty good here. Still, don't mistake the order of their names in the title, this is a Doom book.
This “book” is actually a series of comic book issues that cover the encounter between these two significant characters in the Marvel “universe.”
Fear not it you are unfamiliar with one or both of these guys; this book has plenty of backstory included to make sure you understand how rare and unique their “partnership” is. In deciding to help Doom rescue his mother’s soul from Hades, Strange is aware of the risks.
“I never thought I would be instructing the world’s most infamous despot in the ways of the mystic arts. It is necessary if we are to succeed in our mission.”
The pencil and coloring should please traditionalists. The story is very typical of what Doctor Strange comics were about at this time. The plot of the rescue is nicely done. Satisfying
Addendum Doctor Viktor Von Doom, the despotic ruler of Latveria, has been one of the greatest comic book villains for more than 50 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_... Doctor Stephen Strange, the “Sorcerer Supreme,” has been a force for what’s good and right for a similar period of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_...
My very first Doom/Strange comic. As most people here know, I came to these comicbook characters through the popular Marvel movies. I don't think I'll ever be a completionist, but some volumes I get recommended and strike my fancy so I read them. This was such a volume.
The story is of how Doom learned some mystic arts and how those were nevertheless in no way enough to save his beloved mother's soul. So he needs the help of Dr. Strange which he gets after an interesting contest. Not exactly a team-up one would expect (and yes, Strange was not really happy in the beginning). (Yes I went with the movie version of Strange, sue me.)
Though this story can in no way compete with Sean's wonderful rendition, it is quite good. A deep exploration of two very interesting characters that, thankfully, doesn't just show a bad guy vs. a good guy, but gives both of them real depth. Most notably it is about Doom, who combines mystic powers with science (I really like that) and has learned a lot through time, changing with his responsibilities, having not only a remarkable intellect but also a remarkable heart despite being a so-called baddie. His background story and the story of his people and mother were very interesting indeed.
The art isn't 100% to my liking, but it was really good too, which shouldn't come as a surprise since it's Mike Mignola's (though some early work) and I have yet so see something of his that I don't like.
Читати старі супергеройські комікси — це завжди для мене якийсь особливий момент, тому що вони кардинально відрізняються, як у побудові сюжету, так і в стилістиці малюнку. Слова оповідача, які постійно вводить нас у курс справи та описує події на кадрах є завжди якимись такими вишуканими, що змушує сприймати прочитане й побачене зовсім по-іншому. Можливо, менш розважальним і більш глибоким.
«Доктор Стрендж та Доктор Дум: Тріумф і муки» — збірка коміксів, яка вперше була видана в 1989 році та, насамперед, розповідає про таких персонажів у світі Marvel, як Доктор Стрендж та Доктора Дум. Але також є збіркою із художніми роботами раннього Майка Міньйоли, стиль якого тоді був геть інший, аніж тепер. Тому, окрім основних історій тут знайдуться комікси й про Неймора Підводника, де Майк займався малюнком.
Хоча назва збірки містить імена Стренджа й Дума, але я б назвав це історією про Доктора Дума. Комікс занурює нас у спробу розуміння складної людини за залізною маскою. У цій історії всі герої представляють свою точку зору через об’єктив Віктора фон Дума, без різниці чи ти наймогутніший чаклун на Землі, чи помічник, чи навіть диявол. Усі вони грають другорядну роль в історії трагедії і спокути Віктора фон Дума. Чи краще сказати Доктора Дума, адже своє справжнє ім’я він воліє не згадувати.
З цього коміксу ми можемо зрозуміти, чому Доктор Дум такий захоплюючий і загадковий персонаж. Він настільки розумний, що став майстром багатьох галузей науки, навчився бути дуже майстерним у мистецтві містики, а його сила волі робить його одним із найнебезпечніших істот у всесвіті Marvel. Він — сила природи, і навіть Мефісто не може перешкодити йому досягти своїх цілей. Так про що ж цей комікс і до чого тут Мефісто?
У ваншотному коміксі «Тріумф та муки» Роджер Стерн, сценарист, майстерно розповідає історію про те, як Доктор Дум хитро звертається за допомогою до Доктора Стренджа, щоби врятувати душу своєї матері з лап Мефісто. Читається все чудово, а малюнок Майка Міньйоли, хоч ще й не із його виточеним фірмовим стилем, гарно доповнює все задумане Стерном. Далі нас чекає #8 випуск серії мальописів «Дивовижі історії», де Доктор Дум пост��йно б’ється з Дияволом за душу своєї матері, та #57 випуск рану «Доктор Стрендж», де Роджер Стерн уже закидує гачок і розповідає історію про те, як Доктор Дум роздумує над тим, як стати учнем Доктора Стренджа. І це за кілька років до виходу ваншоту «Тріумф та муки». І на останок у збірку увійшли два комікси із журналів «Чудесні фанфари» номерів #16 і #43, які малював, як я вже згадував, Майк Міньйола й розкажуть вони трішки про пригоди Неймора Підводника.
Мені сподобалися тут виключно всі історії. Тому збірка коміксів «Доктор Стрендж та Доктор Дум: Тріумф і муки» вийшла для мене чудовою. А ще, це не просто чудова демонстрація складності Доктора Дума, як персонажа, а й хороша можливість показати читачам деяких класичних оповідачів Marvel, як Роджер Стерн, Білл Мантло, Джеррі Конвей, а також чудових художників, як Майк Міньола та Джин Колан.
I love victor von doom as a villain. He's kind of unique because he has a code of honour and he always fucks people over in a uniquely intelligent way.
This story gives you the origin of doom as well as some other traits I was not aware of, par example, he's a gypsy and his mother was a witch who made a bargain with Mephisto.
Dr strange owes doom a boon and so he collects by asking him to help him fight mephisto for his mothers' soul.
Again some great twists and turns and a really well written story.
З одного боку, мальописи в цій збірці — типові представники жанрових геройських коміксів кінця 80-х, з усіма супутніми атрибутами на кшталт яскравих плащів і щільних (не менш яскравих) трусів, з іншого — Стерн прагнув уникати класичного протистояння “хороші хлопці проти поганих” і розлого та з подробицями вводить читача в курс справи, показуючи інший бік обох Докторів. До того, як Віктор фон Дум став гоноровим та жорстким, але шляхетним правителем Латверії, він, будучи нащадком циганського роду, провів дитинство у вигнанні й поневіряннях разом зі своїм народом. Віктор дитиною втратив батьків і лише завдяки наполегливості та блискучому розуму створив себе сам. В історії з Доктором Стренджем усе навпаки: той хто мав у людському світі ВСЕ, втратив це в одну мить, та навіть пізнавши просвітлення Стівен Стрендж схильний до людських слабкостей та пороків. Звісно ж, вибираючи основу для сюжету та достойне обох Докторів випробування, Стерн спокусився на одну з найпопулярніших у літературі тем — подорож до царства мертвих, і не помилився, адже ніхто ліпше за багатоликого володаря Пекла не знається на людських пороках і слабкостях.
This is a really great Doom story. It cuts to the essence of what makes his character unique. Doom acts like Doom and does whatever he wants to achieve his ends and yet manages to be weirdly honorable (especially when it comes to Latveria).
One odd thing about this book: during the scenes with all the sorcerers Mignola included this random punk woman who seemed to be wearing a leather jacket and a thong and that's it. Not so unexpected for a late-80s/early 90s comic, but very much unexpected from Mignola. You never see anything like that once Hellboy gets going.
Curio piece, really. A half length graphic starring the titular Docs, an old solo story for each of them, finished off with a random pair of Namor stories?? STRANGE r things have been collected I guess, but even if I DOO My best I can't come up with any examples.
Superb Doom story. This is what old school Doom is. These type of stories help really bring to life why Dr Doom is the way he is. The story was very well developed with intricate detail. The characters that were brought into this story were fantastic. The animation and drawings were so well done bringing the two main characters into the depths of hell.
I've been wanting to read this literally for decades and I wasn't disappointed.
The basic plot is that Doom enlists Dr. Strange's aid in rescuing his mother's soul from Mephisto. Along with this you get the origin of Strange, the origin of Doom, and you see just how Strange becomes the Sorcerer Supreme, which I had always taken for granted. You also have a strong emotional motivation from Doom wanting to rescue his mother, that gives the story some weight and adds another dimension to Doctor Doom.
Mignolia's art is still a little raw and doesn't contain quite as much of the hard angles and heavy inks of his Hellboy work.
This TPB has a reprint of an early Doom story establishing his ritual in trying to rescue his mother. There are also a couple Namor stories by Mignolia as well as a number of pinups of both Doom and Dr. Strange.
In a year where a live action Dr. Strange movie is going to be released, this is a strong, solid story to help build an understanding of the character.
Amazing artwork and a story that kept drawing me in. This was originally released in 1974 and could still go toe-to-toe with comics today. It's aged wonderfully, and is without a doubt a work of art every step of the way.
(Note: this review applies only to Triumph and Torment, not the other page filler comics included)
Доктор Стрейндж та Доктор Дум укладають союз, щоб врятувати душу матері Дума. У коміксі частково пояснюється складна особистість визначного науковця, чаклуна та найголовніше - одного із найвідоміших поганців всесвіту Марвел. Тож, два Доктори вступають у бій з одним із наймогутніших демонів пекла, щоб вирвати з його пазурів душу жінки.
I bought the Fantastic Four Epic Collection specifically for this story. I've heard only good things about this graphic novel and it didn't disappoint. The story by Stern is really appealing, and I miss thinking that magic played a larger part in the big two superhero universes (they're more a side lore than mainstream lore in the modern day). If you're looking for magic this story won't disappoint. Strange is required to take Doom to hell to save his mother from Mephisto, the devil of the Marvel Universe. Its because of the fact that Doom was closest to being the Sorcerer Supreme out of all the other sorcerers at the time, and so the second runner up can ask any favor of the current Sorcerer Supreme. This actually reminds me of the Wonder Woman Hiketeia plot line from the early 00s, and I'm sure there's some level of inspiration from this. For an older comic, this doesn't feel as dated as other books I've read of that era. Sure, there are some bits and pieces that have been left to the past, such as thought bubbles and some of the over explanation dialogue, but it doesn't get in the way of the story. I love the writing between Doom and Strange, especially because it captures both so well. I've always found Doom an interesting character, I'd say he's probably one of my top 10 villains in all of fiction. He's so complex but ruthless but also loving towards his subjects, and he really shows the complexities and oxymorons of humans. I love that Strange points out that Doom has only showed him one of the more prosperous sides of Latveria, and didn't point out all the flawed parts of his country. Stern really wrote something that felt compelling. I especially like that the reason Doom wants to save his mother's soul is so that he doesn't owe anyone anything. Not Strange since he goes out of his way to save him from Mephisto's clutches, and not his own mother's since she sees it as a betrayal of Strange and she wants no part of it. Its just such a really good way to make Doom try and become a more heartless and ruthless person, and he's so fucking petty which I love. Mignola's art is good here. Not his best, but its still top tier. If I didn't know it was Mignola I probably would like it more, but the problem is that I DO know that it's Mignola, and his style hasn't evolved into the Hellboy type art that he'd create a few years later into his career. All of the heavy shadowing and line work is muted here, which is disappointing, but the book is still dynamic and engaging. It abandons realism in favor of good storytelling, which his other contemporaries sometimes struggle with such as Alex Ross (no hate on Ross but sometimes his figures can look very still or statue-esque instead of feeling like they're alive and real like he wants us to think). I thought it was a really good story. I did force myself to read the rest of that Epic Collection since I spent like $20 on it, but it was still less than getting the copy of this book on its own so I'm not too upset about it. Hoping to find more magic books in the Marvel and DC Continuity, lmk if anyone has good recommendations, always looking for more comics to read.
This was something I read through for the first time back in 2023, as part of Spooky Month celebrations then. Mephisto is one of my favorite Marvel villains, and one of my favorite horror/horror-adjacent characters in general. So I partly spent that year by starting a new October tradition, where in addition to watching as many horror movies as I can, I will also read through a piece of horror literature. To start things off, I went with a thick volume of Mephisto comics (“Mephisto: Speak Of The Devil”) that contains several single issues and extended storylines that range from the late 1960s to the early 2010s; including his comic debut. Out of everything I read from that volume, this and the four-part “Mephisto Vs.” storyline were my favorites.
While I’m not sure exactly how well-known this particular comic storyline is in comparison to others, I can say that it’s definitely earned every bit of praise it’s received. Without giving away too much, the story involves Dr. Doom forming a temporary alliance with Dr. Strange (another one of my favorite Marvel characters) to traverse down to Mephisto’s Realm, and liberate the soul of Doom’s mother, Cynthia Von Doom, from Mephisto’s grasp. Because of this premise, the story allows for various intimate moments between Doom & Strange, both individually, and when working together. Through these, we often get to see their development expressed through exploration of their ideologies and personal lives, and how they clash or meld when working together. Mephisto feels at his most pure evil here, where he is especially cruel, sadistic, and violent; making an already dramatic premise even more intense. Not only is this supported through his dialogue, but his physical actions also greatly highlight this, as shown through the stylized and striking artwork; this storyline has some of my favorite panels in any comic.
Overall, I personally thought this was a great storyline that I would highly recommend to anyone who is interested, whether you’re a fan of any of these particular characters, or Marvel in general.
This is probably the Dr. Doom I like second-most, the one who's nuts and trying to save his mom from Hell, and it's such an ambitious, audacious thing to attempt that you can't help but respect him. This is the Dr. Doom I can take most seriously.
The Dr. Doom I like MOST is the one you can't take seriously at all, the one who calls himself "Doom" all the time, the one who does as he pleases and toots a horn that makes a giant, lazily drawn sea creature come out of...somewhere. The one who says a line like, "What? Doom, using a door? Like a peasant?"
I like the Doom who has declared Doom's Day a national holiday in Latveria, a holiday with no set, regular date, it's celebrated whenever the fuck Doom FEELS LIKE IT.
Дуже Молодий Міньйола, на стільки молодий, що на обкладинці він не Майк, а Майкл. Сам же комікс теж олдскульний, тобто будьте готові до великої кількості тексту. Розповідь про подорож Дума і Стренджа в пекло, щоб визволити звідти матір Дума. Це не онґоінґ, а одна закінчена історія, графічний роман, якщо бажаєте. Найцікавіше що тут є - це арт Майка, такий ще не визначений і дивний. Видно серйозний вплив Кірбі, є момент де прорізається міньйолівська фішка - акцентуалізація на невеличких об'єктах - метелик душа. Коли дивлюсь на трійцю Вішанті відразу виникає асоціація з трійцею демонів із Хеллбоя. Майк ще не навчився віртуозно володіти своїм трюком - тінями, але непогані спроби є. Загалом комікс сильно перевантажений текстом, але цікавмй буде фанатам Майка і художникам зокрема, щоб знати, що всі з чогось починали.
An essential read for any Dr. Strange or Dr. Doom fan. This is an origin tale like no-other whose ramifications are being felt into today with recent Marvel events Blood Hunt and One World Under Doom being a climactic moment for a rivalry that begins in these very pages. As the Doctors journey together, first as rivals, then as teammates, and finally as rivals again, we journey alongside them to hell and back (literally!) The battle for mystic supremacy and the title of Sorcerer Supreme begins here!
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Really good co-Doctor graphic novel. The Vishanti, the gods of sorcery call the greatest sorcerers on Earth to partake in a challenge to be named Sorcerer Supreme. And Doom is one of the ones to answer the call. And he uses th3 opportunity to manipulate the whole contest to his benefit.
Really enjoyed this. Love Strange and Doom working together. It builds off an old 70s Doom story from Astonishing Tales by Conway/Colon.
Не так багато коміксів, які розкривають лиходіїв всесвіту Marvel, і хоча данний випуск називається "Доктор Стрендж та Доктор Дум", цей комікс скоріше про Дума, і дуже круто розкриває його як песонажа. В історії не дуже вдалий початок, але якщо його перетерпіти, та пристосуватися до сторітейлінгу коміксів 1990-их років... То на вас чекає дуже цікавий комікс. Малюнки Майка Міньйола чудово доповнюють цю історію. Художник вміє малювати демонів.
An excellent (and efficiently told) story, this manages to cram in both Doctors' origin stories, a sort of Vishanti fight club and an epic battle in Hell, all strikingly illustrated by Mike Mignola, Doom is a fantastic, and complex villain and Strange being compelled to team up with him makes for a memorable partnership and a classic, self-contained story.
the doctor doom story is amazing introduces him and his motives and shows what doom is all about. The doctor strange story is a classic, and surprise there’s 2 namor stories and they are both great especially the second one.
Doom reigns supreme once again in his lifelong fight against Mephisto. Dr. Strange helps Doom right a heinous wrong against Doom’s mother. The artwork is fantastic and the story is complex with nice twists and turns.
Dr. Doom ¿O el destino? ha encontrado una forma de liberar a el alma de su madre de las garras de Mephisto. Obtener la ayuda del hechicero supremo es solo el inicio.
Gearing up for doomsday I want to start gathering more info on the infamous dr doom. A great story of how he mastered the mythic arts. But also a great example of how doom can play the ally card instead of the villain role we expect him to be. He’s always 1 step ahead.