TIME TRAVEL ALTERNATE HISTORY FROM A MASTER. A new tale of time-displaced persons fighting for their lives in the ancient world, from 1632 and Boundary series creator Eric Flint. It’s been more than a year since the cruise ship Queen of the Sea was transported in time and space to the ancient Mediterranean not long after the death of Alexander the Great. Captain Lars Floden and the other “Ship People” are trying to plant the seeds of modern civilization. It’s not an easy task, to put it mildly, even if they have a tacit alliance with the co-regents of Alexander’s empire, his widow Roxane, and Eurydice, the wife of his half-brother. For they have plenty of enemies, too. Cassander is using every foul means available to turn Macedonia and Greece into his own empire. The brutal general Antigonus One-Eye is doing the same in Mesopotamia. And Ptolemy, the cleverest of them all, is expanding his Egyptian realm to the Red Sea. Things aren’t any easier in the colony that passengers from the cruise ship founded on the Caribbean island of Trinidad. President Allen Wiley is trying to build a twenty-first century democratic nation, but the people he has to work with aren’t the most suitable for the oldsters from the future, local tribesmen, and third-century BCE immigrants from Europe and Africa. War, religious strife, assassinations, espionage, poisonings and other murders—and a fair amount of love, too—all mix together with the Ship People's knowledge from the 21st century to form a new weaving of the fates. Hopefully, that will lead to a bright new future. If it doesn't kill everyone first. At the publisher's request, this title is sold without DRM (Digital Rights Management). About Eric Flint’s Ring of Fire “This alternate history series is . . . a landmark . . .” —Booklist “[Eric] Flint's 1632 universe seems to be inspiring a whole new crop of gifted alternate historians.” —Booklist “. . . reads like a technothriller set in the age of the Medicis . . .” —Publishers Weekly Eric Flint is a modern master of alternate history fiction, with three million books in print. He’s the author/creator of the multiple New York Times best-selling Ring of Fire series starting with first novel 1632. With David Drake he has written six popular novels in the “Belisarius” alternate Roman history series, and with David Weber collaborated on 1633 and 1634: The Baltic War and two novels in Webers Honorverse series. Flint was for many years a labor union activist. He lives near Chicago, Illinois. Paula Goodlett retired from the military as a non-commissioned officer in the early nineties. She broke her leg in 2003, which led to her browsing Baen's Bar lest she become bored during her enforced inactivity. Captivated by the 1632 universe concept, she began as a special assistant to Eric Flint. She eventually wrote a large important sequence of the storyline in 1634: The Ram Rebellion. She is editor of the Grantville Gazettes and chairs the 1632 Editorial Board. Additionally, Paula is assistant editor of the e-zine Jim Baen's Universe. Paula mainly writes in tandem with Gorg Huff. Gorg Huff is a Texas citizen who has enthusiastically helped in researching the 1632 series background, written numerous stories for the Grantville Gazettes, and contributed both maps and drawings to 1634: The Bavarian Crisis. Gorg began as a solo writer, but now principally teams with Paula Goodlett.
Eric Flint was a New York Times bestselling American author, editor, and e-publisher. The majority of his main works were alternate history science fiction, but he also wrote humorous fantasy adventures.
This book, published in 2021, is connected to Eric Flint's "Ring of Fire" series, which has become a vast universe, with many books starting with "1632," published in 2000. In that one, a West Virginian town finds itself transported to Germany at the time of the Thirty Years' War. They find themselves in a desperate struggle to survive and the series continued with "1633." I've read both of those books and others of the series--and enjoyed them immensely. I read "The Alexander Inheritance" and this book,"The Macedonian Hazard," is the sequel. Again, moderns are displaced in time, in this case, they are the captain, his crew, and the passengers on a cruise ship, who find themselves in the Mediterranean Sea of the 4th Century BCE. ( a more interesting time and place for me than Europe of the 17th C.). Alexander the Great has died and the War of the Successors is going on, a war in which Alexander's generals are fighting over the empire that he had conquered. Capt. Floden and "the Ship People" find themselves in a very dangerous situation. The "ancients" may not have the science or technology of the people from their future but they are just as smart as "moderns" and prove to be adept at treachery. The cruise ship is seen as a great prize for whichever ruler can seize it! In the second book, we see that the Ship People have made allies and have established a colony, in Trinidad. There, on a defensible island far from the Med, they can feel somewhat safe-and drill for the oil they need and, in fact, begin the industrial revolution centuries early. In the meantime, the ship can develop trade routes and access the resources they need--where's the coffee? Although the ship is supposed to be neutral in the ongoing power struggles, Alexander's widow, Queen Roxane, and their son, Alexander IV, are on board as guests of the Ship People. The young Alexander is supposed to be co-ruler of the Macedonian Empire along with his autistic half-brother Philip III, but Roxanne and Philip's wife, Eurydice, are acting as regents. In our actual history, Roxane and the two boys were killed and Eurydice forced to commit suicide. As Roxane and the others know this history, they understand that the safest place for them is on the ship under the protection of the people from the future. And, from the Ship People's point of view, it might be best to support the boy co-rulers to try to keep Alexander's empire together--to have them as allies and establish, not a Pax Romana, but a Pax Macedonica. But one big problem is that a murder occurs onboard the ship and an investigation is launched to find the murderer. It's a big cast of characters, between the Ship People and the "natives," but they are listed in the book for easy reference! I enjoyed following all the politics and military actions and, most of all, seeing how the people marooned in the past try to plant the seeds of 21st Century civilization in the Ancient World. I look forward to reading more of the Ring of Fire Universe books.
I was provided an ARC via Edelwiess, all thoughts are just that, my opinion only.
The Macedonian Hazard is a smart novel. I am no historical expert, nor do I claim to be a scientific expert on this matter. This series is more focused on its world-building because it has this: When different eras come and interact with each on a time mesh, then there is bound to be a more scientific explanation than the story. Why is that you might ask? It’s explaining this, that when 21st-century people are interacting with 4th-century people, the results can be wonderful, it can be unique, but it can also get slow pacing in some parts.
It’s smart in the sense that it doesn’t explain everything in one go. There’s a lot of POVs in this novel. You get to see the rulers of the Diadochi, which is basically Alexander’s general’s engaging in a huge civil war after he died. You see them trying to manipulate the Queen of the Sea, captained by Captain Lars, to get more resources. They’re trying to break the neutrality that the Queen of the Sea has. It can house, what, maybe 4000 passengers? But I can’t give all the answers to scientific research and mining for oil, for example. That I leave to you, dear reader.
I enjoyed the parts where the Ancients were reading about what happened to them in history. And how they try to manipulate the 21st-century people by using Wikipedia. No Joke. You got the characters of the Diadochi: Eumenes, Olympias, Roxanne, Dag and so many more. My suggestion to the authors that while I loved the fact that both Carthage and Rome were using 21st-century technology (I.e. Accessing the computers of the Queen of the Sea) I WANTED to see more of their viewpoint. It also disappointed me we didn’t see many Ancients use social media or YouTube. YouTube has become TV for me. I would reccomend the authors to watch El Ministerio Del Tiempio, a Spanish TV show that has people collaborating from all periods working under a special Ministry of Time to prevent Spanish history from being changed. It is a massive hit series. But I’d seriously love to see what an Ancient Greek, Egyptian or Carthaginian does as being a fellow Youtuber. Seeing the Ancients having access to social media would be so cool. This is however, under the limitations of what the authors can do. But it would seriously be such a good thing. I don’t like cable TV anymore. It would be so COOL to see how the Ancients use social media. I feel that in the next book; we need more of this.
Some parts had me giggling for no reason but just finding out how the Ancients use email. Like literally, you want a job posting for a worker or slave? Put it on the internet! Then have Ancient Romans and Carthaginians emailing you offering you their slave, but they are demanding expensive prices. That was so hilarious. I just don’t want to spoil this story. It’s very well written, fun, and immersive. There’s a lot of brutalities because this period was brutal, and it can get confusing if you haven’t read the first book. So I suggest you read the first book, and then the second. Another suggestion I would make is, I am sure there would have been Indian passengers from India that could help with advising how to contact India. Because if a 21st-century cruiser goes to 4th century India. This will change the landscape and the technology there by a decade.
I want to see more interactions between Ancient peoples using 21st-century technology and social media. I want to see more of this. I also liked the New World colony story, but wouldn’t it make more sense that if the ancestors of the Mayans, Aztecs and Olmecs were to go on the Queen of the Sea, log onto a computer, discover the cities that their ancestors would build, that they would adopt these techniques rather quickly? Also I love the Carthaginians in this novel. I really want to see more of them establishing colonies in the New World. I dislike the fact that warfare will transform from sword and shield to guns and explosives. I’d want combat to be something similar to 16th century combat or something like that. But not to the extent because there is no honor in exploding bombs.
It’s an amazing book and I say watch out for Phillip the III of Macedon. He’s perhaps one of the most intelligent characters in this book. And watch out for the ending. The ending foreshadows that history will change. I just had fun reading this. I was excited to see this on Edelweiss and knew I was in for a treat. I wish more mainstream fantasy publishers like Orbit and Tor UK, Gollancz, Little Brown Group UK, and independent fantasy publishers like Angry Robot would seriously recognize the potential that time travel and the ancient world has to offer!
I also felt this novel was too short. It needed to be much longer! I’d happily read a 1000 pages of this wonderful alternate time travel history novel 🙂
Have you ever read a sequel and felt like the authors read your review of its predecessor and actually agreed with your criticisms? That's exactly how this book felt for me. I liked the Alexander Inheritance, I thought it had an interesting new take on the Ring of Fire multiverse, but it had issues. My biggest two issues were that the "uptime" religious characters were embarrassingly stereotypical and that the book basically stopped paying attention to any but a handful of "uptimers" after the early part of the book, pretty much exclusively following the various Greek nobles and generals in the latter half, which makes sense in the respect that their actions are going to have the most effect on the new history, but in doing so the story lost its touchpoint with the audience and it skimmed over events among the "New Americans" that seemed very intriguing. So, yeah, they take no time in rectifying these mistakes. In the first case, the embarrassingly badly written "Christian" character from the first book simply disappears into the ether as if he never even existed in the first place. The book doesn't avoid mentioning religious issues, but it's much less... overt in pushing any prejudice or in its cynicism. Perhaps more importantly to the narrative, the book improves DRAMATICALLY on its predecessor by having a subplot following one of the New Americans who tries (with the help of her Carthaginian ex-slave/indentured servant/business partner) to create a glass industry from the ground up. While this story is not crucial to the bigger plot, it helped provide a nice ground level perspective on the big events of the story and of the strange new world in general, and it was easily the best part of the book in my opinion, and while New America isn't at the heart of the story, it remains a key element.
Plot-wise, the Macedonian Hazard focuses largely on the conflict between the loyalists to the USSE (and Alexander's heirs) led by Eumenes and the would-be independent Kingdom of Macedonia under the ambitious Cassander (whose actions also open questions about how Alexander truly died). The loyalists have the friendship and aid of the ship-people aboard the Queen of the Sea (which serves as a sort of floating UN for the nations of the Mediterranean) but if the Empire is to hold together, Strategos Eumenes must demonstrate that despite his lowly origins he is a match for any of Alexander's generals. Other than that, the Queen of the Sea explores new trade routes and opportunities and its Captain, the Empire, Ptolemy's Egypt, and the New Americans (not to mention the Carthaginians and Romans who are both starting to edge towards sparking off their rivalry a bit early) feel their away around their ambiguous-but-necessary relationships. Basically, if you found the first book in the series intriguing then the Macedonian Hazard doesn't disappoint and is in many ways a substantial improvement, though I'd still say it never quite reaches the interest level of the better 1632 books.
Det är en utmärkt alternativhistoria som både tar upp, och beskriver attityder till, svält, elände, slaveri och ny teknik. Om jag hade kunnat, hade jag velat ha denna bok som kurslitteratur i internationella relationer. Dess exempel är strålande, och förklarar mycket ur både defensiv realism och engelskt teori. Jag kan inte annat än rekommendera den.
A good sequel to this version of a modern-people-displaced in time book. Interesting about the spread of ideas and democracy, and a perspective on the Alexandrian age. Not quite as good as the first one.
I purchased the eARC from the Baen website in kindle formant for this novel as I was too impatient to wait any longer for the release.
I was very pleasantly surprised as this book is even better than the first volume. This volume picks up a year after the end of the prior volume giving events set in motion earlier time to mature. Now that we are familiar with the characters and situations we get to see how things mature without having to laboriously sort out the names of all the historical characters most of us were not familiar with in context before the first book. Having an established setting makes this book much more enjoyable for me and makes me look forward to further adventures in this same setting.
It took a long time to pull together over two books, but this addition to the series finally discovers its core military conflict. Also, both central characters and world-building are finally flushed out. I'm looking forward to the next installment :-)
I really wanted to like this book. I'd found the previous book in the series interesting, if not as hugely engaging as the original series with Grantville (a fictional version of Mannington, WV) being sent back to the 30 Years' War.
However, I found I just couldn't really get into this book as well as first of this sub-series. As I was reading, I kept finding I was having trouble remembering what had happened in previous chapters. Part of it could be the long time since I read The Alexander Inheritance, so I didn't have as firm a framework to read it as I might if I'd read them in quick succession. But there's the simple fact that the characters in this book, historical and fictional, just don't seem as engaging, and I'm not sure why.
Worst of all, this book has a stopping point rather than a true ending, and it really needs one more volume to tie things up -- but I don't really expect to see that third volume. Given the weaknesses of this volume, the sales figures probably weren't adequate for the publisher to green-light it, even if there weren't the problem of Author Existence Failure and having to deal with the estate in putting out any further books by his collaborators.
This is the second book in this alternate history series, where a large ocean liner and its refueling tender have both gone back to 320 BCE. They arrive in the middle of Alexander the Great's generals fighting over his empire.
The ship goes from port to port, officially neutral and promoting peace. However, they have aligned themselves with Alexander's heir Philip and his mother Euyadice. Naturally, aside from advancing technology to the industrial revolution, the modern ship is smack in the middle of Grecian politics.
There are murders and battles, as the iron age civilization modernizes to the steam age within years. Eric Flint and his co-authors, Gorg Huff and Paula Goodlett keep the plot moving and the reader engaged with colorful characters from the 21st century and the 4th BCE.
¡Excellent sequel! The book is the second in a series that itself forms part of a larger series known as "the fire ring series", because the events that give it origin somehow connect, However, you do not need to have read any of the previous titles to enjoy this new book series that begins with "The Alexander Inheritance", where a modern transatlantic cruise ship and its supply ship are transported more than 2000 years back in time, to the 3rd century B.C., just a few years after the death of Alexander the Great. In this book everything becomes more real. The people of the ship negotiate and intrigue with their allies, showing long-term plans that move the world post-Avec towards a more just social order, and where it is clear that an industrial base will allow precisely this, achieving in the medium term to eliminate slavery. The authors present a large research work of the ancient world, showing the point of view of the people of ancient Greece and the impact of modern ideas on a pre-revolutionary industrial culture. Excellent plot work, full of action, problem solving and story changes, with a mix of real people from the story and fictional characters caught in the past, all well developed by writers and very charismatic. Great book and good reading.
En Español: ¡Excelente secuela! El libro es el segundo en una serie que a su vez forma parte de una serie más amplia conocida como “la serie del anillo de fuego”, pues los eventos que le dan origen de alguna manera de conectan, sin embrago no es necesario haber leído nada de los títulos anteriores para disfrutar de esta nueva serie de libro que comienzan con “The Alexander Inheritance”, donde un moderno Crucero trasatlántico y su barco de abastecimiento son transportados mas de 2000 años al pasado, al siglo 3° antes de cristo, solo algunos años después de la muerte de Alejandro el Grande. En este libro todo se vuelve más real. La gente de la nave negocia e intriga con sus aliados, mostrando planes a largo plazo que muevan el mundo post Evento hacia un orden social más justo, y donde es claro que una base industrial permitirá precisamente eso, logrando eliminar a mediano plazo la esclavitud. Los autores muestran un gran trabajo de investigación del mundo antiguo, mostrando el punto de vista de las gentes de la antigua Grecia y del impacto de las ideas modernas en una cultura pre revolucionaria industrial. Excelente trabajo de la trama, lleno de acción, resolución de problemas y cambios de la historia, con una mezcla de personas reales de la historia y personajes ficticios atrapados en el pasado, todos ellos bien desarrollados por los escritores y muy carismáticos. Gran libro y una buena lectura.
I'm finished! But I didn't finish. Very seldom do I not finish a book I start. I read the first book of the series, the Alexander Inheritance, and enjoyed it. I finished 70 percent of the Macedonian Hazard, and it just seems nothing is happening. More and more characters introduced, sitting around talking. People from 2500 years ago just getting used to coal fired engines and exploding rockets. Nothing new here, move to the next talk around the table. The characters are *boring*. I don't know, maybe in another 100 pages something will happen. Two stars because...unquestionably! Massive amounts of research on the people alive in 300 BCE.
Enjoyable followup to the first book "The Alexander Inheritance" alternate history which postulates a cruise ship, with passengers, being deposited back in the time period just after Alexander the Great's death. The Ship People continue to try and survive and build new societies based on period knowledge and their future knowledge. Logical actions in different parts of the world follow with the changing politics and adventure. The ending means I have to wait likely a year for the next installment. I recommend you buy this book, but read the first one first.
The people from the cruise ship QUEEN OF THE SEAS, displaced into the war-torn world following the death of Alexander the Great, have survived for a year, establishing a colony on Trinidad, opening a trading circuit around the Mediterranean, and turning the QUEEN into a floating university. They've also succeeded in rescuing Alexander's family (widow, toddler son, sister, brother, sister-in-law and mother) from politically-motivated assassins, which makes them of target of Alexander's feuding Successors. An action-packed, well-researched adventure.
Normally I don't tend to like books that jump rapidly between different story arcs. However with this book, perhaps because I didn't think the individual stories were necessarily all that interesting, I found the rapid fire bulletin approach pretty good. and on the whole, I enjoyed this one significantly more than the first book in the series.
This series is like "discount 1632". It's not as well written, and I feel that a lot of handwaving is going on. Additionally, they mentioned Carthage as a glass mecca like 12 times, I get it, they make glass but you don't need to tell us every 50 pages.
Lots of action, well developed characters. Alternative timeline, technology introduced to Alexander's Empire. Lots of good discussions about religion and slavery.
Phillip, Alexander the Great's brother, and Alexander IV, inherit Alexander's empire. However, Alexander's generals disagree and rebel. The fight begins.
When they named one of the converted lifeboats after Ronald Reagan. Typical cruise ship passengers (and I am going on my 20th cruise in 20 years next month -- I know whereof I speak.)
ZoI rarely appreciate a sequel as much as I did this one. Gorgeous and Paula are more t3han worthy enough wordsmiths to pick up and expand Eric Flint's original concept.
Fascinating story though you have to concentrate to get all the names correct & assigned to the correct characters. Very well written & very interesting.
On the whole I enjoyed the second installment of the series. The story jumps around a little too much with all the main characters in different locations and that sometimes makes it hard to follow.