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Inferno
He changed everything for mutantkind with HOUSE OF X and POWERS OF X. He explored the new Krakoan era in X-MEN. Now the keeper of the mutant flame, Jonathan Hickman, presents his next incendiary saga! Mystique, former mutant terrorist and espionage agent supreme, is loyal to Professor X’s Quiet Council for one reason only: the promise that someday, he will resurrect her beloved Destiny. But when Moira MacTaggert helped Professor X and Magneto realize their lifelong dreams for mutantkind, it came with one condition — do not allow any precognitive mutants on the island of Krakoa. What will Mystique do when she realizes that she is being strung along? Vengeance burns hot — and Mystique is about to ignite an Inferno! And where has the elusive Moira MacTaggert been all this time, anyway?
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224 pages, Hardcover
First published March 8, 2022
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Jonathan Hickman
1,222 books2,036 followersJonathan Hickman is an American comic book writer and artist. He is known for creating the Image Comics series The Nightly News, The Manhattan Projects and East of West, as well as working on Marvel Comics' Fantastic Four, FF, and S.H.I.E.L.D. titles. In 2012, Hickman ended his run on the Fantastic Four titles to write The Avengers and The New Avengers, as part the "Marvel NOW!" relaunch. In 2013, Hickman wrote a six-part miniseries, Infinity, plus Avengers tie-ins for Marvel Comics. In 2015, he wrote the crossover event Secret Wars. - Wikipedia
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February 29, 2024
I had been waiting years for this, and finally it is here, and it is truly disturbing -- the the truth about the genesis of Krakoa, the leaders that deceived, the woman that was left out in the cold, and the real reason why Destiny was not brought back. Everybody involved forgot one, in hindsight very obvious thing, don't mess with Mystique!
For those of you like me that can't or won't buy-in to Hickman's X-verse, well this is the event that really needed to launch it. Tapping into the amazing re-imagined origin of Moira MacTaggart, the aloofness and imperiousness of Xavier and Magneto, the reality of Orchis and the hard-to-swallow concept of long-time X-Men villains buying into Krakoa, this event blows it all up, although with subtlety and multiple backstories. There is no way Krakoa will ever be the same, and let's face it, it's what I have always wanted, the beginning of the end of Krakoa, surely? Reading-wise and art-wise this is top-drawer, with my only complaint being the depiction of Destiny. The huge plus is that Emma Frost, Moira X and Mystique are back to their very best. 8.5 out of 12, Four Star read.
2024 read
For those of you like me that can't or won't buy-in to Hickman's X-verse, well this is the event that really needed to launch it. Tapping into the amazing re-imagined origin of Moira MacTaggart, the aloofness and imperiousness of Xavier and Magneto, the reality of Orchis and the hard-to-swallow concept of long-time X-Men villains buying into Krakoa, this event blows it all up, although with subtlety and multiple backstories. There is no way Krakoa will ever be the same, and let's face it, it's what I have always wanted, the beginning of the end of Krakoa, surely? Reading-wise and art-wise this is top-drawer, with my only complaint being the depiction of Destiny. The huge plus is that Emma Frost, Moira X and Mystique are back to their very best. 8.5 out of 12, Four Star read.
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June 28, 2022
Inferno is a strong conclusion to Hickman's run on the X-Men, and it's pretty much a sequel to House of X/Powers of X, easily the best story to come out of the World of X after X of Swords. I strongly believe Hickman's plan for the mutants was ruined by the editorial after that crossover event, so Inferno to me felt like a sample of what Hickman had in store for us, but I take what I can get at this point.
Inferno was such an emotional ride for me, an epic battle of the species surrounded by mystery and a shocking moments, I simply couldn't decide who to cheer for, and I was fearing for the outcome at some point, but I couldn't be happier with the ending, Hickman totally nailed it, he closed this second act in tremendous style, revealing the mystery behind Moira MacTaggert while setting up the stage for Destiny of X, which is exactly what I wanted, continuation, and to me this is still one of the most exciting X-Men eras, it's not over yet.
Inferno was such an emotional ride for me, an epic battle of the species surrounded by mystery and a shocking moments, I simply couldn't decide who to cheer for, and I was fearing for the outcome at some point, but I couldn't be happier with the ending, Hickman totally nailed it, he closed this second act in tremendous style, revealing the mystery behind Moira MacTaggert while setting up the stage for Destiny of X, which is exactly what I wanted, continuation, and to me this is still one of the most exciting X-Men eras, it's not over yet.
June 21, 2022
If you are wondering, this has nothing to do with the Inferno X-Men event from the 1980's. It's Hickman's bookend to Hox/Pox. It's excellent. Moira returns for the first time since Hox/Pox and her fears have been realized. Destiny has returned and she and Mystique are pissed.
Hickman's time with the X-Men does feel like it's been truncated. I get the feeling Hickman had a much longer vision that Marvel kept screwing with, especially with the poor quality of many of the other X books. Some of them like Excalibur and Fallen Angels were pure garbage from beginning to end. This is Hickman making sure that Marvel can't just reset the timeline after he leaves. Now let's see how long it takes these writers to completely fuck this up now that Hickman's gone. I have no confidence in half the writers on the X-Books these days. Let's hope Keiron Guillen can take the reins and keep them interesting because I can remember just how bad the X-Men were once they left Utopia.
Hickman's time with the X-Men does feel like it's been truncated. I get the feeling Hickman had a much longer vision that Marvel kept screwing with, especially with the poor quality of many of the other X books. Some of them like Excalibur and Fallen Angels were pure garbage from beginning to end. This is Hickman making sure that Marvel can't just reset the timeline after he leaves. Now let's see how long it takes these writers to completely fuck this up now that Hickman's gone. I have no confidence in half the writers on the X-Books these days. Let's hope Keiron Guillen can take the reins and keep them interesting because I can remember just how bad the X-Men were once they left Utopia.
January 6, 2022
Let's set aside the fact I actually enjoyed the original "Inferno" event from 1990, and this miniseries had nothing to do with it. (I became a huge fan of Magik in the early 90s, shortly after she had died, and appreciated Inferno as back issues.) Hell, the name doesn't even make sense on its own; nothing much having to do with fire happened with this story.
This was an inconsequential conclusion to the Hickman run on X-Men that concluded nothing.
Some people want to praise Hickman, when I care nothing for the writer whatsoever. I just care about where the story is going. And while I can work with this Krakoa era, because it is interesting, and I like having every mutant ever available again, this story is not being managed correctly.
1) Cypher.
2) Hickman wants us to believe that there are only 3 possible outcomes. Mutant supremacy, human supremacy, or machine supremacy. Or possibly an alliance of human/machine supremacy. The way his writing style works is that he is trying to manage our expectations, convincing us that there is only a specific list of options. Then, if he finds a way to surprise us with an element outside of the narrow list of options he presented us with, it feels like a satisfying twist. Supposedly. But for long-time comic fans, it's ludicrous that he's presenting us with such limited options at all. The Marvel universe is such a big, beautiful, powerful, weird place, there are many more options outside of these limited ones.
Franklin Richards could create a new world like Counter-Earth and send all mutants to live there. Magik could open a time portal and send all the mutants to live in the distant past or distant future, or an alternate reality Earth where all life had been wiped out. The Shadow King could get amped up to such a degree he takes over the mind of every human on Earth, removing humans from the equation and having them assist mutants in fighting Orchis/sentinels. We learned from an issue of Exiles that Asgardians are immune to the transmode virus, so we could arrange for mutants to interbreed with Asgardians to create a new species, and then invite the Technarch to come to Earth and assimilate all of humanity, while the mutant/Asgardians remained immune and just lived in Asgard.
And, of course, there's always that pesky old dream of Xavier's where mutants and humans learned to live in peace. But in this day and age, we're supposed to pretend that Xavier has never been good, he has always kept secrets, and yet it's somehow transgressive good writing to pretend as if his shady past is a new revelation. ... Xavier hasn't been written as a purely benevolent teacher since the late 90s, it feels like. Writers-- we're over it. At the very least, stop acting like Xavier's secrets are somehow surprising at this point. It has been decades of shitting upon Xavier. We get it.
3) Moira.
4) In general, there has been a lack of oversight across the X-titles ever since Dawn of X/House of X. Tini Howard has been fucking with people's powers, personalities, and origins over in Excalibur for years now. (Suddenly, Meggan is telling people that she is an actual fairy as if this were common knowledge and not a retcon; suddenly, Rictor's powers are no longer a vibratory blast, but power over dirt, and he is a druid with magical powers without any training, but also he can talk to grass for some reason?) X of Swords was an abomination, and for some reason it featured monologues from Tarot so that she could report on her precognition, DESPITE THE FACT THERE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ANY PRECOGS ON KRAKOA.
Hickman may be brilliant, maybe not. I don't care. But either way, he doesn't deserve praise for what was created here. This "conclusion" isn't a conclusion at all, and the stories we have had so far have left a lot to be desired. "Fallen Angels" and "Children of the Atom" were both dumpster fires that never should have been created. "X-Corp" was less offensively bad, but more baffling in why it existed in the first place. (Who wanted to watch superheroes discuss business contracts? And why did no one feel the need to explain how/why Monet is capable of turning into her Penance form at will now? I got the allusion for the "Angel"/"Penance" thing; but the play on words isn't enough to make me look past the glaring plot hole.)
I maintain that Tini Howard's run of Excalibur is one of the most offensively bad things I have ever read (Why would Meggan manifest fairy wings? She has been capable of flying without wings for 40 years.)
This isn't like the "phases" of MCU movies, where everyone is excited to see what Marvel will come up with next. This is a deal where we're entering a new phase of X-titles and I'm hoping someone can salvage what has been done to my characters.
This was an inconsequential conclusion to the Hickman run on X-Men that concluded nothing.
Some people want to praise Hickman, when I care nothing for the writer whatsoever. I just care about where the story is going. And while I can work with this Krakoa era, because it is interesting, and I like having every mutant ever available again, this story is not being managed correctly.
1) Cypher.
2) Hickman wants us to believe that there are only 3 possible outcomes. Mutant supremacy, human supremacy, or machine supremacy. Or possibly an alliance of human/machine supremacy. The way his writing style works is that he is trying to manage our expectations, convincing us that there is only a specific list of options. Then, if he finds a way to surprise us with an element outside of the narrow list of options he presented us with, it feels like a satisfying twist. Supposedly. But for long-time comic fans, it's ludicrous that he's presenting us with such limited options at all. The Marvel universe is such a big, beautiful, powerful, weird place, there are many more options outside of these limited ones.
Franklin Richards could create a new world like Counter-Earth and send all mutants to live there. Magik could open a time portal and send all the mutants to live in the distant past or distant future, or an alternate reality Earth where all life had been wiped out. The Shadow King could get amped up to such a degree he takes over the mind of every human on Earth, removing humans from the equation and having them assist mutants in fighting Orchis/sentinels. We learned from an issue of Exiles that Asgardians are immune to the transmode virus, so we could arrange for mutants to interbreed with Asgardians to create a new species, and then invite the Technarch to come to Earth and assimilate all of humanity, while the mutant/Asgardians remained immune and just lived in Asgard.
And, of course, there's always that pesky old dream of Xavier's where mutants and humans learned to live in peace. But in this day and age, we're supposed to pretend that Xavier has never been good, he has always kept secrets, and yet it's somehow transgressive good writing to pretend as if his shady past is a new revelation. ... Xavier hasn't been written as a purely benevolent teacher since the late 90s, it feels like. Writers-- we're over it. At the very least, stop acting like Xavier's secrets are somehow surprising at this point. It has been decades of shitting upon Xavier. We get it.
3) Moira.
4) In general, there has been a lack of oversight across the X-titles ever since Dawn of X/House of X. Tini Howard has been fucking with people's powers, personalities, and origins over in Excalibur for years now. (Suddenly, Meggan is telling people that she is an actual fairy as if this were common knowledge and not a retcon; suddenly, Rictor's powers are no longer a vibratory blast, but power over dirt, and he is a druid with magical powers without any training, but also he can talk to grass for some reason?) X of Swords was an abomination, and for some reason it featured monologues from Tarot so that she could report on her precognition, DESPITE THE FACT THERE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ANY PRECOGS ON KRAKOA.
Hickman may be brilliant, maybe not. I don't care. But either way, he doesn't deserve praise for what was created here. This "conclusion" isn't a conclusion at all, and the stories we have had so far have left a lot to be desired. "Fallen Angels" and "Children of the Atom" were both dumpster fires that never should have been created. "X-Corp" was less offensively bad, but more baffling in why it existed in the first place. (Who wanted to watch superheroes discuss business contracts? And why did no one feel the need to explain how/why Monet is capable of turning into her Penance form at will now? I got the allusion for the "Angel"/"Penance" thing; but the play on words isn't enough to make me look past the glaring plot hole.)
I maintain that Tini Howard's run of Excalibur is one of the most offensively bad things I have ever read (Why would Meggan manifest fairy wings? She has been capable of flying without wings for 40 years.)
This isn't like the "phases" of MCU movies, where everyone is excited to see what Marvel will come up with next. This is a deal where we're entering a new phase of X-titles and I'm hoping someone can salvage what has been done to my characters.
September 1, 2023
The saga concludes. (Sort of.)
As much as I've been fascinated with the unique writerly stylings of author Jonathan Hickman, I've always had to admit he can be both a bit problematic and bad at endings. Yet this is not the case with Inferno, the very well written ending to his Dawn of X saga about the resurrecting mutant Moira MacTaggert and the living mutant isle Krakoa, having begun in only 2019.
This is not even close to a normal superhero story of heroes battling villains. The unique storytelling structure revolves around politics, and that is extremely interesting as it sounds. Professor X and Magneto's faction vs. Mystique enrolling Emma Frost while they corral for votes in the high council.
Then there is the admittedly standard bad guy of Nimrod, representing the meta-arc of the mutant conflict against A.I. robots for global supremacy. Those parts are eminently fascinating, the high-concept science fiction including some enjoyably-confusing time travel.
But the bulk of the narrative is about Professor X versus Mystique, about the lies and compromises the traditional X-Men leader had to undergo to create the current mutant utopia. My only critique of this storyline, is that it isn't clear who the reader is supposed to be rooting for. Are we really supposed to sympathize with Mystique, just because they won't bring her precognitive wife back to life? Is it that bad that Prof X is keeping Moira and her past lives a secret?
Eventually it turns out humble linguist Doug Ramsey--tasked with communicating with the entire sentient island--was the protagonist all along. It's a good twist and I won't spoil much, other than declaring it a surprisingly satisfying conclusion to this series of graphic novels.
Sometimes brilliant writers full of Big Ideas can write themselves into a corner, with too much going on, and are unable to construct workable endings. You know those kinds of thick novels and critically-acclaimed cable series. I'm so relieved that one of my favorite X-Men stories ever didn't suffer from this.
That said, it's a mainstream superhero franchise and it isn't really over. The stories of Krakoa government intrigue will continue with other writers in other titles, and it is impressive that the premise will outlive Hickman. Even Grant Morrison's run didn't get that much staying power.
It may be debated which of the post-Claremont takes are the best; Morrison or Hickman or even the 90s cartoon, but I'm sure this will be remembered as one of the great X-Men sagas. The themes evolve with the changing times, the shifting metaphors and literary implications of it all, and as time goes on I'm just glad there are still powerful stories to be told about these uncanny characters...
As much as I've been fascinated with the unique writerly stylings of author Jonathan Hickman, I've always had to admit he can be both a bit problematic and bad at endings. Yet this is not the case with Inferno, the very well written ending to his Dawn of X saga about the resurrecting mutant Moira MacTaggert and the living mutant isle Krakoa, having begun in only 2019.
This is not even close to a normal superhero story of heroes battling villains. The unique storytelling structure revolves around politics, and that is extremely interesting as it sounds. Professor X and Magneto's faction vs. Mystique enrolling Emma Frost while they corral for votes in the high council.
Then there is the admittedly standard bad guy of Nimrod, representing the meta-arc of the mutant conflict against A.I. robots for global supremacy. Those parts are eminently fascinating, the high-concept science fiction including some enjoyably-confusing time travel.
But the bulk of the narrative is about Professor X versus Mystique, about the lies and compromises the traditional X-Men leader had to undergo to create the current mutant utopia. My only critique of this storyline, is that it isn't clear who the reader is supposed to be rooting for. Are we really supposed to sympathize with Mystique, just because they won't bring her precognitive wife back to life? Is it that bad that Prof X is keeping Moira and her past lives a secret?
Eventually it turns out humble linguist Doug Ramsey--tasked with communicating with the entire sentient island--was the protagonist all along. It's a good twist and I won't spoil much, other than declaring it a surprisingly satisfying conclusion to this series of graphic novels.
Sometimes brilliant writers full of Big Ideas can write themselves into a corner, with too much going on, and are unable to construct workable endings. You know those kinds of thick novels and critically-acclaimed cable series. I'm so relieved that one of my favorite X-Men stories ever didn't suffer from this.
That said, it's a mainstream superhero franchise and it isn't really over. The stories of Krakoa government intrigue will continue with other writers in other titles, and it is impressive that the premise will outlive Hickman. Even Grant Morrison's run didn't get that much staying power.
It may be debated which of the post-Claremont takes are the best; Morrison or Hickman or even the 90s cartoon, but I'm sure this will be remembered as one of the great X-Men sagas. The themes evolve with the changing times, the shifting metaphors and literary implications of it all, and as time goes on I'm just glad there are still powerful stories to be told about these uncanny characters...
May 1, 2022
This is to Inferno as dog biscuits are to human cookies.
January 25, 2022
Jonathan Hickman’s brings his X-Men run to an amazing close, with Inferno acting as basically a sequel to HoX/PoX. Hickman manages to close out the mystery of Moira in this one, while also wrapping his time on the X titles, and leaving tons of room for Krakoa to grow and develop in the other X Books.
This 100% isn’t for everyone, and I could totally see some finding this to be a disappointing close to Hickman’s run, but I thought everything closed out pretty well, with an epic final issue setting up a lot of cool things for the X-Men going forward. I don’t like going too much into spoilers for stories like this, so I would say if you are interested in this, read HoX/PoX and then jump right into this. You would probably be able to follow everything, even without having read Hickman’s X-Men run, or the other X titles in Dawn.
Onto Destiny of X!
This 100% isn’t for everyone, and I could totally see some finding this to be a disappointing close to Hickman’s run, but I thought everything closed out pretty well, with an epic final issue setting up a lot of cool things for the X-Men going forward. I don’t like going too much into spoilers for stories like this, so I would say if you are interested in this, read HoX/PoX and then jump right into this. You would probably be able to follow everything, even without having read Hickman’s X-Men run, or the other X titles in Dawn.
Onto Destiny of X!
January 9, 2022
Me decepcionó bastante la trama de este nuevo "Inferno" pues no tiene nada que ver con el primero que trataba sobre el Limbo, demonios y Madeleyne Pryor. Aquí en realidad las que llevan el tono son Mystique y Destiny su amante. empieza con Moira quien está oculta y exige la muerte de Destiny. Este desorden lleva al dúo Xavier - Magneto en confiar en la única que creían Emma Frost dándole una gran revelación. Es interesante ver cómo Moira suena como la más radical en estos últimos tiempos.
Aquí también se muestra cómo Cyclops renuncia a ser jefe de capitanes de Krakoa para darle el pase a Bishop como nuevo comandante.
Aunque me gustó como se resuelve parte del conflicto quedan muchos puntos sin terminar que para mí hacen a la historia un poco fútil y sobre todo extraña. Hay muchas cosas que no he logrado entender del todo.
Aquí también se muestra cómo Cyclops renuncia a ser jefe de capitanes de Krakoa para darle el pase a Bishop como nuevo comandante.
Aunque me gustó como se resuelve parte del conflicto quedan muchos puntos sin terminar que para mí hacen a la historia un poco fútil y sobre todo extraña. Hay muchas cosas que no he logrado entender del todo.
June 22, 2022
This book was not what I was expecting, but Idid enjoy it. I though the Moira X story flashback in one of the earlier issues was something I did enjoyed is finished off here. This book contains my favourite artwork of all the X-MEN books.
Destiny saw this coming, in fact she yold her wife Mystique that she would not be allowed to be brought back. This is a book of one ups manship. A lot of secrets and roles are revealed here. Also unless I am mistaken Professor X displays a new power for him.
There are a lot of things going on in this book, it seem to go in a loop. Starts at the end then shows what happened, and they how it happened.
A lot of interesting stuff here with big implications for all the parties involved. There are so many layers of planning and execution in this book. Everyone has an agenda, and nobody really trusts anyone else. Now the race is on.
Destiny saw this coming, in fact she yold her wife Mystique that she would not be allowed to be brought back. This is a book of one ups manship. A lot of secrets and roles are revealed here. Also unless I am mistaken Professor X displays a new power for him.
There are a lot of things going on in this book, it seem to go in a loop. Starts at the end then shows what happened, and they how it happened.
A lot of interesting stuff here with big implications for all the parties involved. There are so many layers of planning and execution in this book. Everyone has an agenda, and nobody really trusts anyone else. Now the race is on.
July 9, 2022
Mystique has lost her patience. She wants her wife, Destiny, resurrected, and she isn't going to take no for an answer any longer. But when Professor X and Magneto say exactly that, Mystique snaps. She'll bring the X-Men to their knees, and all of Krakoa will end in an inferno. But in the shadows, an even greater threat returns to prominence - after all this time, where is Moira MacTaggert?
This is Jonathan Hickman's last X-Men story for the forseeable future, but you'd never know it. He grabs all the plot threads he's left hanging around and sets them on fire, but not before setting up all the other things that are going to spring out of this. It's a very gracious exit considering he wanted to take the story in a different direction than this.
Hickman's sweeping storytelling drags all of Krakoa into these four oversized issues, but he keeps the character work on point by zeroing in on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Destiny, and Moira. The way he makes everything so big and yet so small is masterful.
The artwork is also fantastic, with frequent Hickman collaborators Stefano Caselli and R.B Silva joined by Valerio Schiti for a truly beautiful looking book. If everything has to burn, at least it looks good while it does it.
It's a jonathan Hickman X-Men book, of course it's good. You don't need me to tell you that.
This is Jonathan Hickman's last X-Men story for the forseeable future, but you'd never know it. He grabs all the plot threads he's left hanging around and sets them on fire, but not before setting up all the other things that are going to spring out of this. It's a very gracious exit considering he wanted to take the story in a different direction than this.
Hickman's sweeping storytelling drags all of Krakoa into these four oversized issues, but he keeps the character work on point by zeroing in on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique, Destiny, and Moira. The way he makes everything so big and yet so small is masterful.
The artwork is also fantastic, with frequent Hickman collaborators Stefano Caselli and R.B Silva joined by Valerio Schiti for a truly beautiful looking book. If everything has to burn, at least it looks good while it does it.
It's a jonathan Hickman X-Men book, of course it's good. You don't need me to tell you that.
May 31, 2023
on re read the plot is a littler messier just because hickman didn’t properly build up a lot of the elements in here but damn the writing is so good i’ll keep my score at 5
June 21, 2023
madelyn pryor and illyana rasputina are my wives !!!
May 20, 2022
I am bitterly disappointed that Hickman has left the X-Men with his story only a third told. But, if he were to leave, this is the bookend we needed. A conclusion to the story of Moria (though she will have one more life if she makes the right choice in the end!), a magnificent detailing of Cypher's place in Krakoa, a revelation of one of the greatest secrets of Orchis, and the evolution of the Quiet Council.
A wonderful book that I'm thrilled to put next to HoX/PoX.
A wonderful book that I'm thrilled to put next to HoX/PoX.
January 21, 2022
I was WAY off in my predictions of how this story was going to end. I just hope that this is what Hickman wanted/is happy with.
June 21, 2022
After reading and enjoying Hickman for years, I think I've finally figured out his writing style: he works backwards. A series of disembodied scenes occur that only later are revealed to have been linked. If you make it to the reveal, you'll enjoy the read. If you crash out early, he's a terrible writer.
I must be making it to the reveal, because I can't get enough of Hickman's stuff. Inferno reintroduces Moira, who I didn't quite realize has been missing throughout the many X-series. She's serious about Destiny, Mystique's great love, not being resurrected. So, naturally, that happens.
There's some serious politicking in Inferno, with the various members of the Quiet Council trying to get ahead of each other. There's also some fairly insane action as Nimrod and Omega are activated due to Mystique's actions. The artwork is stunning throughout - no surprise there. Repercussions are surprisingly few, at least for now. If you can handle the looping storytelling that Hickman so loves, Inferno is a fantastic bookend to his time in the X-verse. Hope it continues being stellar without his hand on the tiller.
I must be making it to the reveal, because I can't get enough of Hickman's stuff. Inferno reintroduces Moira, who I didn't quite realize has been missing throughout the many X-series. She's serious about Destiny, Mystique's great love, not being resurrected. So, naturally, that happens.
There's some serious politicking in Inferno, with the various members of the Quiet Council trying to get ahead of each other. There's also some fairly insane action as Nimrod and Omega are activated due to Mystique's actions. The artwork is stunning throughout - no surprise there. Repercussions are surprisingly few, at least for now. If you can handle the looping storytelling that Hickman so loves, Inferno is a fantastic bookend to his time in the X-verse. Hope it continues being stellar without his hand on the tiller.
June 19, 2022
4.5 stars
A return nearly to the heights of HoX/PoX, focused on resolving a lot of the enticing conflicts that have been simmering indefinitely since then, particularly with Mystique/Destiny and fleshing out Orchis’s motivations and current state. I really enjoyed the reveals and twists of the story, and the compelling urgency they were told with. There’s some artist shuffling despite this only being four issues, but it’s still one of the best looking X-books of the past few years.
As satisfying of a wrap-up as this is, it’s just the midpoint of a larger story that’s now lost its original author. Whatever the realities of Big 2 editorial decisions made over years are, it’s a disappointment to never get the rest of that version of this story, but I’m still excited to see what new writers will make of the state Hickman’s left Krakoa in.
A return nearly to the heights of HoX/PoX, focused on resolving a lot of the enticing conflicts that have been simmering indefinitely since then, particularly with Mystique/Destiny and fleshing out Orchis’s motivations and current state. I really enjoyed the reveals and twists of the story, and the compelling urgency they were told with. There’s some artist shuffling despite this only being four issues, but it’s still one of the best looking X-books of the past few years.
As satisfying of a wrap-up as this is, it’s just the midpoint of a larger story that’s now lost its original author. Whatever the realities of Big 2 editorial decisions made over years are, it’s a disappointment to never get the rest of that version of this story, but I’m still excited to see what new writers will make of the state Hickman’s left Krakoa in.
March 6, 2023
See, this is why I hate that Hickman is leaving the X-titles. There was a lot of very satisfying payoff from plot threads that were started in House of X / Powers of X, and without spoiling anything I really loved who the ultimate hero of this story was as I've been a huge fan of this character for decades and always felt his power-set was under-utilized by his writers, and under-estimated by his peers. Hickman, however, really seems to get how much power and potential this character actually has and used it to full-effect in pulling off a great end to this story. I've been reading all of the other X-books and while some of them are pretty entertaining, none of them have come close to this level of story-telling for me, and that was under Hickman's direction, so now that he's gone, I'm not sure how I feel about things going forward. I personally came back to the X-Men books after a long hiatus because I was sold on the idea that Hickman had a beginning, middle, and end to the story he wanted to tell over what we were told would be a five or so year period, and now that we're in that middle and he's leaving and Marvel has pretty much said that this isn't just an era of X-Men books but rather the new status-quo moving forward, I don't know how much longer I'm going to stick around. I was kind of looking forward to an ending and now that I know I'm not going to get one in the true sense of the word, I'm probably going to go back to being a casual reader and only showing up for the big events, and going back to ignoring the books I really don't care about (looking at you, Children of the Atom).
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January 5, 2022La etapa de Hickman en los mutantes termina no con un bang, si no con un "esto es lo que hay". Me ha gustado y me lo he pasado muy bien con esta miniserie llena de giros y sorpresas, pero cuatro números son muy pocos para cerrar esta gigantesca trama (y no es un cierre como tal, es un "continuará").
Por movidas editoriales Hickman ha decidido apartarse y dejar que el resto de guionistas jueguen con Krakoa, pero no sé a qué precio ha sido esto. Por un lado me alegro de que Krakoa siga, pero me hubiese encantado ver el final original de esto (y técnicamente Hickman se pira al final de la fase uno de tres que tenía pensadas).
En fin: es una buena miniserie, pero deja un regusto amargo. Qué le vamos a hacer.
Por movidas editoriales Hickman ha decidido apartarse y dejar que el resto de guionistas jueguen con Krakoa, pero no sé a qué precio ha sido esto. Por un lado me alegro de que Krakoa siga, pero me hubiese encantado ver el final original de esto (y técnicamente Hickman se pira al final de la fase uno de tres que tenía pensadas).
En fin: es una buena miniserie, pero deja un regusto amargo. Qué le vamos a hacer.
October 12, 2023
Wow! This book finally addresses the promise that was made to Mystique back in HOX/POX that I’ve been thinking about ever since then. This book brings absolutely massive implications for Krakoa and the future of mutants. I’ll be thinking about this for a long time. Excited for this new chapter in the Krakoa era of X-Men.
July 26, 2024
Starting with House of X and Powers of X, writer Jonathan Hickman changed everything for the X-Men comics. When Moira MacTaggert helped Charles Xavier and Magneto realise their lifelong dreams for mutantkind by creating a new sovereign nation on the small island named Krakoa, it came with one condition that any precognitive mutants would not be allowed on the island. Throughout Hickman’s run on the flagship X-Men title, we see this utopia for mutants becoming a dystopia, at least through the perspective of Mystique, who is loyal to Professor X’s Quiet Council for the sole reason that someday, he will resurrect her beloved Destiny, the most powerful precognitive mutant.
In the four-issue miniseries Inferno, whilst the human threat that is Orchis continues their mission to eliminate all mutants as they have succeeded in the creation of Nimrod, Mystique takes matters into her own hands. As she manipulates those around her to succeed her wish of resurrecting Destiny, the two lovers, along with Emma Frost, uncover the dark secret that Xavier and Magneto have been keeping from the Quiet Council, which threatens Moira’s current position.
Throughout his time within the Krakoan Age, Hickman was never interested in approaching the X-Men as a typical superhero team, and more of a nation of a race that has long been hated and hunted and were going to thrive in their own paradise, no matter what the rest of the world was going to say. Similar to what Grant Morrison was doing when they were writing New X-Men, Hickman was leaning towards grand sci-fi ideas, especially in how the utopia becomes the dystopia.
With Mystique and Destiny being the central focus as they manipulate the Quiet Council, as well as uncovering the conspiracy that is there to maintain the peace for all mutants, so much of the conflicting character dynamics are essentially political turmoil about who is really in control. The same goes through some of the supporting cast like Emma Frost who is approached by Xavier and Magneto into their secret, only to be disgusted upon this discovery, whilst Cypher suddenly ends up being the saviour, due to his ability of communicating with the island Krakoa and interpret its sentiments, so he has eyes and ears all over the place.
As much as Orchis is a human supremacist group that somewhat serves as the main antagonist throughout the Krakoan Age, it will be the machines that will trample mutantkind and humanity within future generations. And yet one of the most interesting developments comes from Karima Shapandar/Omega Sentinel who confesses to Nimrod that she has actually been possessed by the consciousness of an alternate version of herself hailing from a possible future where the mutants were dominant. Considering that Hickman has always acknowledged aspects of the X-Men's comics history, this clever inversion of the Days of Future Past narrative which has been done to death opens the possibility that mutants could have a happy ending.
With three artists involved in this miniseries, which is predominately interpersonal drama, the transition between the styles of Valerio Schiti, Stefano Caselli and R.B. Silva can be a bit jarring. However, they all deliver their A-game, especially when R.B. Silva brings some visual tricks he did when he drew of Powers of X such as stunning splash pages to visualise alternate futures, whilst Schiti and Caselli deliver on quality action in the final issue where Xavier and Magneto battle Nimrod and Omega Sentinel.
While it is upsetting to see Hickman leave before a lot of the stories that he set up are fully realised, Inferno is an amazing conclusion to his involvement in the Krakoan Age, as well as paving the way for subsequent titles like Kieron Gillen and Lucas Werneck’s Immortal X-Men.
In the four-issue miniseries Inferno, whilst the human threat that is Orchis continues their mission to eliminate all mutants as they have succeeded in the creation of Nimrod, Mystique takes matters into her own hands. As she manipulates those around her to succeed her wish of resurrecting Destiny, the two lovers, along with Emma Frost, uncover the dark secret that Xavier and Magneto have been keeping from the Quiet Council, which threatens Moira’s current position.
Throughout his time within the Krakoan Age, Hickman was never interested in approaching the X-Men as a typical superhero team, and more of a nation of a race that has long been hated and hunted and were going to thrive in their own paradise, no matter what the rest of the world was going to say. Similar to what Grant Morrison was doing when they were writing New X-Men, Hickman was leaning towards grand sci-fi ideas, especially in how the utopia becomes the dystopia.
With Mystique and Destiny being the central focus as they manipulate the Quiet Council, as well as uncovering the conspiracy that is there to maintain the peace for all mutants, so much of the conflicting character dynamics are essentially political turmoil about who is really in control. The same goes through some of the supporting cast like Emma Frost who is approached by Xavier and Magneto into their secret, only to be disgusted upon this discovery, whilst Cypher suddenly ends up being the saviour, due to his ability of communicating with the island Krakoa and interpret its sentiments, so he has eyes and ears all over the place.
As much as Orchis is a human supremacist group that somewhat serves as the main antagonist throughout the Krakoan Age, it will be the machines that will trample mutantkind and humanity within future generations. And yet one of the most interesting developments comes from Karima Shapandar/Omega Sentinel who confesses to Nimrod that she has actually been possessed by the consciousness of an alternate version of herself hailing from a possible future where the mutants were dominant. Considering that Hickman has always acknowledged aspects of the X-Men's comics history, this clever inversion of the Days of Future Past narrative which has been done to death opens the possibility that mutants could have a happy ending.
With three artists involved in this miniseries, which is predominately interpersonal drama, the transition between the styles of Valerio Schiti, Stefano Caselli and R.B. Silva can be a bit jarring. However, they all deliver their A-game, especially when R.B. Silva brings some visual tricks he did when he drew of Powers of X such as stunning splash pages to visualise alternate futures, whilst Schiti and Caselli deliver on quality action in the final issue where Xavier and Magneto battle Nimrod and Omega Sentinel.
While it is upsetting to see Hickman leave before a lot of the stories that he set up are fully realised, Inferno is an amazing conclusion to his involvement in the Krakoan Age, as well as paving the way for subsequent titles like Kieron Gillen and Lucas Werneck’s Immortal X-Men.
January 7, 2022
I just cannot get past the logical idiocies of this mini series and, I guess, what underpins the whole thing. So they hate Moira for wanting to make mutants human, she hates them for burning her. Ok, I get people can get pissed with one another. Up until the point she reveals what would have been her grand betrayal they were acting like angry emo teens, threatening everyone's future, to be emo and angry with one another. "Ima kill u, no ima kill u, no u, no u" etc etc.
I've not been into comics for a bit but if that's all it takes for Hickman to be great toss me a pen and I can write and epic series in an afternoon based on watching my kids argue with another.
It's all just a load of wank.
Then stupid crappy mc crap ending you always get in a mutant fight when they want to let loose "oh I have a device to stop you" urgh, sensible reader calling the God Fucking awful writing department, come up with something new eh? Over the course of the X titles for however long they've gone on for they've written themselves into knots by creating characters who can pretty easily wipe everything out, so then they have to create bullshit reasons why the don't. The "we won't kill mutants" rubbish or the "we can depower you buttons" it's just narrative finger clicking for bad writing.
You want to stop humans and machines? Charles could cerebro every single human to commit suicide and with ressurection they could Strom their space base and kill them through pure attrition (though we know a few could wipe them out without trying)
I came back to marvel to give it a try, a start and ending story would create, I hoped, a way to enjoy X titles without all these issues that they've created in wanting to tell stories in a universe where things happen whilst at the same time nothing ever changes. The two don't gel so you are left as a reader either having to willingly accept their bullshit or be stupid enough not to understand their bullshit. I am not willing to embrace either so unfortunately I'm out.
There are a lot of great comics out there which tell stories and aren't constrained by this narrative bullshit, hell even marvel cinematic universe is now more enjoyable than this as they are telling stories that will have a start and end.
I have more respect for my own time and intellect (and wallet) to keep swallowing this crap. I'm surprised I stuck it out this long but there you go.
As I did about 21 years ago, once again, fuck you Marvel, i'm out.
I've not been into comics for a bit but if that's all it takes for Hickman to be great toss me a pen and I can write and epic series in an afternoon based on watching my kids argue with another.
It's all just a load of wank.
Then stupid crappy mc crap ending you always get in a mutant fight when they want to let loose "oh I have a device to stop you" urgh, sensible reader calling the God Fucking awful writing department, come up with something new eh? Over the course of the X titles for however long they've gone on for they've written themselves into knots by creating characters who can pretty easily wipe everything out, so then they have to create bullshit reasons why the don't. The "we won't kill mutants" rubbish or the "we can depower you buttons" it's just narrative finger clicking for bad writing.
You want to stop humans and machines? Charles could cerebro every single human to commit suicide and with ressurection they could Strom their space base and kill them through pure attrition (though we know a few could wipe them out without trying)
I came back to marvel to give it a try, a start and ending story would create, I hoped, a way to enjoy X titles without all these issues that they've created in wanting to tell stories in a universe where things happen whilst at the same time nothing ever changes. The two don't gel so you are left as a reader either having to willingly accept their bullshit or be stupid enough not to understand their bullshit. I am not willing to embrace either so unfortunately I'm out.
There are a lot of great comics out there which tell stories and aren't constrained by this narrative bullshit, hell even marvel cinematic universe is now more enjoyable than this as they are telling stories that will have a start and end.
I have more respect for my own time and intellect (and wallet) to keep swallowing this crap. I'm surprised I stuck it out this long but there you go.
As I did about 21 years ago, once again, fuck you Marvel, i'm out.
March 25, 2022
I mean, what can I say? It's incredible. It's a sequel to House of X/Powers of X in every way including status quo-shattering scope and intrigue. Hickman deftly sets up the next step in the Krakoan experiment including who will be calling the shots in said Destiny of X.
I'm excited for what's to come, and sad that this is an end of what has been with Hickman stepping back and letting his new world flourish under its current and future caretakers.
I'm excited for what's to come, and sad that this is an end of what has been with Hickman stepping back and letting his new world flourish under its current and future caretakers.
April 11, 2022
4.25
This was good. Enjoyed it. But yet...I expected more. More payoff from Hickman's "closing argument" for this new reality he created for the X-Men. The premise and opening salvo was so great.
Perhaps an unfair bar. Sticking the landing on a great story can be hard. I can't help but wonder if his abrupt, mysterious departure (what happened?) is part of the reason.
This was good. Enjoyed it. But yet...I expected more. More payoff from Hickman's "closing argument" for this new reality he created for the X-Men. The premise and opening salvo was so great.
Perhaps an unfair bar. Sticking the landing on a great story can be hard. I can't help but wonder if his abrupt, mysterious departure (what happened?) is part of the reason.
February 26, 2025
(2025) shan’t ever be normal about my girl and frankly i don’t want to
(2024) i wanted it to be about 5 times longer because mystique deserves to fuck shit up so so bad after what charles and magneto and moira have done, however, this was delightful. like i cannot over-emphasize how very much i wanted more, but i was twirling my hair kicking my heels giggling spinning my chair as is
(2024) i wanted it to be about 5 times longer because mystique deserves to fuck shit up so so bad after what charles and magneto and moira have done, however, this was delightful. like i cannot over-emphasize how very much i wanted more, but i was twirling my hair kicking my heels giggling spinning my chair as is
September 25, 2022
The story of the X-Men’s Krakoa era is the story of a vast, ever changing cast of powerful individuals brought together in a fragile unity to pursue a common goal. And that’s just the creators. The Krakoan X-Office has been a marvel of comics production, creating by now hundreds of issues which still feel like one sprawling but shockingly well co-ordinated saga.
Eventually, like one of the machine intelligences studded throughout Jonathan Hickman’s X-stories, the process eclipses the progenitor. Hickman’s initial pitch and miniseries inspired a machine to tell stories which feel like nothing in superhero comics, including (here’s the bit which chafes at some long term fans) all previous X-Books. Inferno marks the point at which that machine parts ways with its designer, as apparently Marvel and the other X-creators opted not to move onto the second act of Hickman’s longer term plan, which would have shifted the status quo again, so instead we have an amicable handover of the directional reins.
For fans of comics which demand to be read on a meta level, then, Inferno is an absolute treat. After all, it’s about a parting of ways itself - what happens when the secret architect of the Krakoan project, Moira MacTaggart, is revealed. Moira X’s mutant power (to live her life repeatedly with the knowledge of all her previous ones intact) puts her a level above the other characters in her understanding of the nature of X-istence: the mutants are trapped in a repeating story and the ending is always unhappy. She has a plan to break that cycle, apparently by helping Professor X and Magneto build a utopia in which mutants can be separate but immortal. But it turns out there was always more to the plan than that.
So Inferno has at least three levels to work on. There’s the base level of advancing Krakoa-era plots: Mystique getting her wife back; Orchis and their long term goals; Charles and Erik losing their grip on the Quiet Council. There’s the macro level of advancing the Big Plot about Moira and the nature of the Krakoa era itself. And there’s the meta layer of transitioning from that Big Plot being a long term Hickman project into whatever it’s going to be now.
On the first level it’s a spectacular success, which is a relief as that’s the level on which Inferno is an enjoyable comic rather than a big event. There’s a beautifully neat inversion of a classic X-Men plot which gives Orchis more depth; the political shenanigans are very well done; and Mystique is finally written as the extremely dangerous character she is. Plus there’s a wonderful moment for a character who’s been around since the 80s and gets to be a badass in a very Hickmanish way. Valerio Schiti makes it all look great too: he’s one of Marvel’s most reliable storytellers, attractive without being flashy but always clear, and Inferno’s big moments land visually, not just cos they’re Important or Revealing.
Which brings us to those second and third levels - Moira and the Big Plot and the overall direction of the line. These don’t work quite as well, partly because you get the feeling the actual reveals have been blunted. It’s possible to see what *might* have been the full outline of Hickman’s big twist, and he gives us an edited version of it that at least uncovers Moira’s real ideas and motives. It’s very clever stuff. But it could have been a bomb under the Krakoan era, and that’s not what anyone else was ready for so we get tantalising hints, a reshuffle of major players and a sense that the really big changes are on hold for now. It’s one of the most elegant “change of plans lads” plot shifts I’ve seen - and reading serial comics means you see a lot - but that’s still what it is.
On that big picture level I can see Inferno neither fully satisfying the Hickman lovers (their guy’s big picture has been spoiled) or the Krakoa haters (no end in sight to the tiki bar orgy). If this era of the X Books fizzles out readers might look back and wish it had burned out not faded away. But as a piece in the ongoing story as it exists - and more importantly as an X-Men comic in its own right - it’s a definite win.
Eventually, like one of the machine intelligences studded throughout Jonathan Hickman’s X-stories, the process eclipses the progenitor. Hickman’s initial pitch and miniseries inspired a machine to tell stories which feel like nothing in superhero comics, including (here’s the bit which chafes at some long term fans) all previous X-Books. Inferno marks the point at which that machine parts ways with its designer, as apparently Marvel and the other X-creators opted not to move onto the second act of Hickman’s longer term plan, which would have shifted the status quo again, so instead we have an amicable handover of the directional reins.
For fans of comics which demand to be read on a meta level, then, Inferno is an absolute treat. After all, it’s about a parting of ways itself - what happens when the secret architect of the Krakoan project, Moira MacTaggart, is revealed. Moira X’s mutant power (to live her life repeatedly with the knowledge of all her previous ones intact) puts her a level above the other characters in her understanding of the nature of X-istence: the mutants are trapped in a repeating story and the ending is always unhappy. She has a plan to break that cycle, apparently by helping Professor X and Magneto build a utopia in which mutants can be separate but immortal. But it turns out there was always more to the plan than that.
So Inferno has at least three levels to work on. There’s the base level of advancing Krakoa-era plots: Mystique getting her wife back; Orchis and their long term goals; Charles and Erik losing their grip on the Quiet Council. There’s the macro level of advancing the Big Plot about Moira and the nature of the Krakoa era itself. And there’s the meta layer of transitioning from that Big Plot being a long term Hickman project into whatever it’s going to be now.
On the first level it’s a spectacular success, which is a relief as that’s the level on which Inferno is an enjoyable comic rather than a big event. There’s a beautifully neat inversion of a classic X-Men plot which gives Orchis more depth; the political shenanigans are very well done; and Mystique is finally written as the extremely dangerous character she is. Plus there’s a wonderful moment for a character who’s been around since the 80s and gets to be a badass in a very Hickmanish way. Valerio Schiti makes it all look great too: he’s one of Marvel’s most reliable storytellers, attractive without being flashy but always clear, and Inferno’s big moments land visually, not just cos they’re Important or Revealing.
Which brings us to those second and third levels - Moira and the Big Plot and the overall direction of the line. These don’t work quite as well, partly because you get the feeling the actual reveals have been blunted. It’s possible to see what *might* have been the full outline of Hickman’s big twist, and he gives us an edited version of it that at least uncovers Moira’s real ideas and motives. It’s very clever stuff. But it could have been a bomb under the Krakoan era, and that’s not what anyone else was ready for so we get tantalising hints, a reshuffle of major players and a sense that the really big changes are on hold for now. It’s one of the most elegant “change of plans lads” plot shifts I’ve seen - and reading serial comics means you see a lot - but that’s still what it is.
On that big picture level I can see Inferno neither fully satisfying the Hickman lovers (their guy’s big picture has been spoiled) or the Krakoa haters (no end in sight to the tiki bar orgy). If this era of the X Books fizzles out readers might look back and wish it had burned out not faded away. But as a piece in the ongoing story as it exists - and more importantly as an X-Men comic in its own right - it’s a definite win.
September 30, 2022
Not sure this really worked the way it was supposed to. It was really hard to wrap my head around Moira's powers to begin with--I guess the entire world re-started every time she was reincarnated? It's a neat idea, but then I don't really get why Destiny is such a threat to her vision that she can't ever be brought back, nor why Destiny and Mystique are so hell-bent on killing Moira. It's almost like there are a few missing, explanatory pieces to this puzzle. The artwork was topnotch throughout, but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed by this, after looking forward to reading it for so long. It doesn't really seem to wrap anything up or provide a new start for the X-books or anything like that.
February 6, 2023
Oh, this is amazing. And painful. And Douglas has the biggest balls on the island.
January 6, 2022
Even though this story was originally planned as the midpoint of Hickman's saga, I'm glad that the other x-writers persuaded him not to put all the toys back where he found them. The Krakoa era has made the books feel genuinely fresh, and I can't wait to see what everyone does with these mutants next.
March 9, 2024
I think naming the event after the original Inferno is wrong, cause I literally bought it thinking it'll have Madelyne Pryor. I'm trying to catch up to all this Krakoa stuff because they did resurrect her. (I have ordered Dark Web that actually focuses on her) So my bad for thinking this title would have her. I did read the synopsis that it'll be about Mystique and Destiny though and that part was great. This the first I'm actually reading comics with them together. And I want to go back and read more and go forward as well (mainly cause I'm spoiled for 1 super big reveal that I definitely want to read!)
So other than the name, I don't quite get the whole villian part of this story except for Nimrod. That part is easy. But maybe I'm missing context since this really the first I've read of all this. Like is Moira the bigger enemy?
The art is absolutely gorgeous and can this person always draw Mystique and Emma Frost?
So other than the name, I don't quite get the whole villian part of this story except for Nimrod. That part is easy. But maybe I'm missing context since this really the first I've read of all this. Like is Moira the bigger enemy?
The art is absolutely gorgeous and can this person always draw Mystique and Emma Frost?
April 20, 2024
Reread:
Okay, it has been better after he departed than I let on. But… still. For this to be his departure just leaves you feeling halfway up a cliff on a climb. This isn’t conclusive. It isn’t supposed to be.
But good things are to come from this.
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Original:
Oh man, what do I do with this? It makes me long for a world where Hickman was the sole X-writer and got to do whatever he wanted. There’s good stuff in this book, but mostly you mourn the could-have-beens. Through all of this era, when people asked if I liked it, I had to keep saying I don’t know, waiting for Hickman to reveal. And now we only get it half done and he moves on to greener grass and bluer waters. How long can this ship sail without Hick? It already felt adrift. I just don’t know…
Okay, it has been better after he departed than I let on. But… still. For this to be his departure just leaves you feeling halfway up a cliff on a climb. This isn’t conclusive. It isn’t supposed to be.
But good things are to come from this.
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Original:
Oh man, what do I do with this? It makes me long for a world where Hickman was the sole X-writer and got to do whatever he wanted. There’s good stuff in this book, but mostly you mourn the could-have-beens. Through all of this era, when people asked if I liked it, I had to keep saying I don’t know, waiting for Hickman to reveal. And now we only get it half done and he moves on to greener grass and bluer waters. How long can this ship sail without Hick? It already felt adrift. I just don’t know…
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