At last, Tom King returns to the rocky, romantic saga of Batman and Catwoman with his Heroes in Crisis collaborator, superstar artist Clay Mann! Echoing plot points from King’s epic Batman run, this sweeping tale is told across three timelines: the past, when the Bat and the Cat first fell in love; the present, where their union is threatened by one of Batman’s lost loves; and the future, where the couple have a happy life and legacy-including their daughter Helena, the Batwoman. And as the story begins, after a long marriage, Bruce Wayne passes away-which frees Selina Kyle to settle an old score. At every stage of their relationship, Bruce and Selina have an unwelcome chaperone: The Joker! Oh, and that lost love of Bruce’s? It’s Andrea Beaumont-a.k.a. Phantasm. Just thought you’d want to know.
An old flame of Bruce’s asks for his help in finding her runaway son - but will the Bat and the Cat find the kid before the shadows of Gotham claim him? Also, in the future, old lady Selina, recently widowed, visits an elderly man - but why and who is he?
I thought Tom King’s Batman run was meant to be 100 issues long but it ended instead after issue #85. Maybe DC thought closing on the City of Bane storyline was a better finale? At any rate, what was probably the final arc of those 100 issues is being released as this 12 issue series, Batman/Catwoman (the remainder would’ve been stuff like annuals and shorts).
And this first issue isn’t bad but there’s not a whole lot here that’ll blow your hair back. Bat and Cat are doing generic superhero-y stuff, the missing child case ain’t exactly gripping, and the future storyline is mostly banal old people dialogue. King picks up where he left off with Bat and Cat continuing to smooch on rooftops while Cat and Joker chat some more.
Too many first issues tend to be essentially sizzle reels for what’s to come so I’m glad there’s a somewhat self-contained story here, as well as table-setting for later issues. The reveal of the old man’s identity at the end is interesting and a possibly new villain for this story is teased as someone unseen digging in the Wayne graveyard unearths a metal skull mask and shroud.
It’s not clear why there’s this massive time jump between the present and the future, or why the missing kid should impact Selina so much that she’d carry that with her for decades, but it’s a first issue so I’m sure we’ll find out later. And it’s not a badly written issue either - I don’t think King can write badly when it comes to Batman.
Clay Mann has produced career-best artwork in his previous collabs with King, both on Batman and Heroes in Crisis, and his art looks great here, though it’s not among his most stunning pages. Joker looks dapper in his Dick Tracy-esque getup, and the comic looks as polished and cool and you’d expect for a tentpole title like this.
The title page has a cute advent calendar-type design: Wayne Manor with 12 windows, for 12 issues, with the first window lit up and each issue lighting up a different window as we go along. It matches the Christmas framing, as well as the release date, and maybe hints at the villain’s background - a kind of Ghost of Christmas Past, returning to haunt Bruce and Selina?
Batman/Catwoman #1 isn’t the most impressive beginning but, as a huge fan of his Batman run, I’m glad that we’re getting another Tom King/Batman book, and I’m hoping it’ll develop into something more memorable over the course of this series.
I enjoyed a lot of King's Batman run but this one jumps around SO much it is jarring. I do love moments, especially a big reveal that worked great, and the overall creepiness in the background of all this, but some of it is so confusing in terms of following the story I can't help but ask "Why?"
The story jumps around A LOT. You're not even long enough on a particular timeline to even know what's going on and next thing you know you're getting thrown into another one.
Had they timed themselves better and chosen less time periods, maybe the time jumps would have benefited the storytelling and increased the mystery and drama. The only thing that it manages to do is confuse its readers.
The time jumps in the story are not smooth at all, jarring in fact. The ending surprise is no surprise and is a bit weird but the art is gorgeous, that is worth all the stars but as usual Tom Kings writing is lacking but I will see where this goes.
Wow, I was looking forward to this run because I love BatCat so I bought every issue. But now I finally understand why so many people don’t like Tom King as a writer. The story was bad on so many levels. The constant jumping back and forth between specific points in the past and present made things hard to follow, and the lack of anything resembling transitions was jarring. Selina was absolutely insufferable and nothing at all like the charming antihero she’s always been. I didn’t believe for one second that she would be besties with the Joker, especially not because she genuinely enjoyed his company. (They decorate a fucking Christmas tree together in one scene.) And the constant self-righteous tirades about Batman trying to control her came out of nowhere and made her sound like a complete nutcase. Speaking of Batman, I’ve enjoyed Tom King’s comics in the past but I don’t know what happened here; Batman barely served a purpose in this story at all and when he was around he had no personality and was easily manipulated by Selina’s bullshit. King even did a bad job with the Joker! How can you screw that up?! I’ve seen him write the Joker well before but this just wasn’t it. Honestly, I’m so disappointed. There was potential here with a Bat story set around Christmas time and I did like the advent calendar theme. One other positive thing I can say is that this was my first experience with Helena, Bruce and Selina’s daughter, and I appreciate that she did not put up with anyone’s bullshit. Too bad Selina was absolutely terrible to her and terrible to Bruce. Honestly I hated almost everything about this. If I hadn’t paid money for each individual issue and I didn’t think the art was gorgeous I would be tempted to throw these in the recycling bin.
Oh, and one more thing! Almost every single one of these lovely covers is BatCat looking like they're couple of the year and (mild spoilers), throughout most of this they're fucking fighting with each other so that is false advertising. The ending that everything builds up to is not believable and not earned.
Great art but like most Tom King books, the story telling is a bit non linear and some of the dialogue wording characters say doesn't make sense. Still might continue reading.
Nechci hodnotit. Už jsem četl několik Kingovin po prvním čísle a po každé to má podobný znak - baví mě to, ale nejde to moc správně ohodnotit protože ty věci po sešitech nefungují, je potřeba to číst naráz. Ano, na tohle jsem se těšil a líbilo se mi to. Ale po každé když si to zmíněné první issue dám cítím prázdnotu, chci víc ale zároveň vím, že budu muset čekat zase měsíc. Takže si počkám až na vydání v HC. Tak či tak, miluju Mask of the Phantasm, miluju Andreu Beumont, miluju Toma Kinga, miluju jeho Batmana. Je to výborný a jsem rád, že to mám fyzicky. Líbí se mi tu několik věcí co udělali v tomto sešitu a jsem zvědavý jestli to dají i do HC. Clay Mann je bůh, art je top, barvy taky. Ale co čekat, bylo to jasný.
I haven't read King's run on Batman. I picked this up thinking I can jump into a number 1 and start a new journey... I was wrong. I have no clue what's going on.
The art is sort of a rehash, nothing really too unique. Batman and Catwoman, the dual protagonists, look similar to how they’ve been drawn a million times. The Joker has an interesting look.
Great idea for a plot but not a great execution so far. I’d like to know what’s going to happen so I’ll read #2, but it needs to be a little more straightforward to hold my interest.
I just finished reading all issues of this series and I don't know quite how to feel about it. It's interesting. I keep reading. But I don't actually like it very much? Everyone feels very out of character, especially Catwoman and the Joker. It's a thought experiment I guess, but I think I'll just mark this as not for me.
[3.25/5] I think whenever King cuts back and forth between time, it's a hit or a miss. It worked in a handful of his stories and not so well for me with the rest. This unfortunately fell into the latter. I think the story has a lot of promise and I'm curious to see more of it. I will say though that the art is gorgeous. Clay Mann does a spectacular job drawing people and bringing these larger than life characters to fruition in a way that looks stunning.
Menudo Cristo de historia. Entremezcla tres tiempos distintos cada pocas viñetas, a sopapo, y en pocas paginas se hace una lectura complica. A ver cómo siguen los siguientes.
tom king is like the final boss of batman/catwoman stories and i can't seem to beat him. he is one of my least favorite writers working with dc, i despise the way he writes bruce, selina and their relationship... yet he seems to be the only writer who is willing to give them a chance as a pairing. after snyder completely got rid of selina in his own run, tom king's inclusion of her was a welcome change... which didn't last long. i wish other (and more talented) writers took over batman titles like this and gave batcat a chance. the art was beautiful as always but the story always /and i mean a l w a y s/ lacks in tom king's work. the dialogue always feel so forced and unnatural.
i.: them calling each other "bat" and "cat" has always been cringe and i'm afraid this will be tom king's legacy when it comes to batman. if i see them call each other that AFTER tom king is done with these characters, i'm gonna lose my mind. ii.: the story being non-linear does not automatically make it "deep" or interesting, it actually makes it quite confusing if the writer is bad at telling it.
Panini hat mir dankenswerterweise den ersten Band von Batman/Catwoman als Rezensionsexemplar zukommen Lassen.
Vö: 17.08.2021 Format: Hartcover Autor: Tom King Zeichner: Clay Mann Seiten: 84
Tom King, von dem ich bisher nur den Comic Rorschach kenne, hat hier eine mitreißende Geschichte geschaffen, die auf drei Zeitebenen Spielt, die Vergangenheit, als sich die Fledermaus und die Katze zum ersten Mal verliebten; die Gegenwart, wo ihre Vereinigung von einer von Batmans verlorenen Lieben bedroht wird; und die Zukunft, in der das Paar ein glückliches Leben und Vermächtnis hat. Ich habe gehört das Batman/Catwoman, Handlungspunkte aus einem früheren Batman Comic von Tom King aufgreift und sozusagen eine Art Fortsetzung zu diesem ist, ob das stimmt, kann ich nicht sagen, da ich es nicht gelesen habe. Ein überraschender Teil der Geschichte ist die Einbeziehung von Andrea Beaumont, einer Figur aus dem Animationsfilm Batman und das Phantom. Dies macht diese Geschichte auch zu einer Art Fortsetzung des Trickfilms, er wird aber nicht zwingend für den Comic gebraucht. Ebenso spielt der Joker eine Rolle, ich muss sagen das DC den Joker in letzter Zeit etwas zu häufig benutzt. Versteht mich nicht falsch ich liebe den Charakter Joker, aber vielleicht sollten sie ihn mal etwas zurückhalten und dann nach einer Weile wieder zurückkommen lassen. Joker hat hier dennoch einen wesentlichen Teil der Geschichte von Bruce und Selina gespielt. Hier sage ich nicht mehr über den Joker denn sonst würde es zu Spoilern kommen, aber ich bin sehr überrascht was hier passiert.
Clay Manns Zeichnungen in diesem Comicbuch sind einfach nur atemberaubend, ich liebe die Art wie die Charaktere hier dargestellt sind. Aber auch die Hintergründe und Farben sind einfach ein Traum und passen hervorragend zur Geschichte. Ich bin begeistert vor allem da man hier mal einen anderen Weg mit der Geschichte geht, was nicht jedem gefallen wird, ich allerdings bin begeistert von mir ☆☆☆☆☆
Genauso gut wie die Geschichte und Zeichnungen, ist dieses Hardcover Band, das Artwork ist wunderschön und zu dem mit Spotlack veredelt.
No. Ya basta. 85 números de la serie regular fue demasiado. "Mister Miracle" es excelente, pero no es una carta blanca seguir robando con estos proyectos de vanidad. Y jamás olvidar la atrocidad que fue "Heroes in Crisis", destrozando uno de los personajes legacy más queridos como Wally West. Y después queriendo compensar cerrando la historia con el fanservice mas avergonzante y tribunero de la historia. Una m**rda bien ilustrada. Batman/Catwoman no arranca para nada bien, está repleta de todos los malos vicios de Tom King (que se ve se siente muy cómodo), el arte obviamente es una locura de hermoso pero cada vez más cerca de ser una sequencia de pin-ups que de narranción de viñetas* El relato no-lineal no se justifica en lo que se cuenta, sólo pretende ocultar un puñado de ideas mezcladas y todas juntas para generar expectativa y enganche hacia lo que se va a contar a lo largo de los 12 números: Que alguien le avise a TK que eso es propio de un número 0. Este no es más que un simple teaser trailer mal editado y pretencioso. Y justamente es eso lo que más incordia: la pretención del autor de intentar hacer de esta su Largo Halloween. El público se renueva, y es incauto - es por eso que los chantas tienden a tener éxito.
BATMAN/CATWOMAN (2021) nro 1 (de 12) ☆
*Algo que le sucediera en su momento a Jim Lee también - con su punto cúlmine en sus últimos trabajos serielizados (Batman: Hush y All-Star Batman and Robin)
Been looking forward to this since December... LAST December. 12 month delays be a real bitch sometimes. The art was certainly worth the wait. Clay Mann is like the flip side of Jason Fabok. Just as good but in Mann's case, a little more sketchy. I like how he draws everything but especially the Joker- real classy an shit. The story was pretty good. For a start I had fun but I have absolutely no idea where it's going and it has a lot of room to fall. Batman Mask of the Phantasm is my favorite Batman film and for a while now I have often wondered why comics never utilized Andrea and the Phantasm more. So this i suppose can be called a bucket list scratcher. Jumps around a bit in time but King's limited use of words keeps it from getting too bogged down and convoluted. Even gets grim at times in a way I wasn't prepared for. All in all really good stuff. Though the art is the show stopper here. If you don't find yourself paused in awe at some of these splash pages, you're doing it wrong.
FINALLY starting to read this series! Beautiful artwork throughout, and the covers are just fantastic! I've been getting all the Jim Lee covers, with the exception of #1. I'm still looking for it. The storyline is a little difficult to follow. It's not really told in the present, it jumps around from a time when Andrea Beaumont is coming to Bruce Wayne to help search for her missing son. At the same time, Bruce and Selina Kyle are having a relationship, the Joker is on the loose, and Alfred has passed away. Flash to a later time, where the Joker is retired in Florida, Selina comes to deliver news of Batman's death, and to finally finish off the Joker. There are earlier flashes that show a younger Selina Kyle learning her trade from The Sewer King. Flashback to the (I assume) the present, where Bat & Cat are questioning the Sewer King about the missing boy, but the King decides to try to make them gator chow. Later, they find the boy, dead, by Joker's hand, in a tent, under a bridge in Gotham. The news is delivered to Andrea, who digs up her old Phantasm costume. *Fade out*
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
This first issue details Batman and Catwoman's relationship over the course of three timelines: the past, present, and the future. I thought the jumps in time were a bit jarring as I found myself constantly having to review what time period the panels took place in and what came first. I love Batman and Catwoman together, but I felt the story and the jumping around in time didn't work for me.
The art was fantastic. It shows the grittiness of Gotham and how Batman and Catwoman fit into it.
I rated this issue 3 stars because even though the story didn't work for me, I love Bruce and Selina's relationship. I think they have great chemistry together.
Well...that was...interesting? Since I'm not sure what to think, and I like the Bat with the Cat, I'm erring on the higher side of 3.5. I don't mind the confusing jumps once context is established (which does not happen in this issue, meaning I flipped back pages more than once trying to figure out what the heck was happening), and I thought Heroes in Crisis was brilliant when all was said and done, so I'm holding out the same hope for this. Good reveal and good ominous build up, so fingers crossed for the future issues.
El bailoteo en las líneas temporales acaba por hacer bastante cuesta arriba la lectura. Porque, además, me parece haber perdido bastante trasfondo (dejé parado el Batman de King antes de La Boda). Pero aguanté por el dibujo y sobre todo por todo lo referente a El Fantasma que la verdad es que promete. Por lo que seguiré adelante con la lectura.
Si estás aquí también por lo horny unleashed del BatCat pues disfruta que King está desatado.
Really liked this and am very interested in where this is going. My only complaint is the time jumps aren’t handles very well, I had to reread a few pages because I wasn’t sure what time we were supposed to be at several points. Beyond this though, I’m very excited for this whole run and this first issue had a lot of solid stuff here, especially that great art. Call him what you like, but Tom King writing Batman and Catwoman again has me very excited.
I enjoyed this one, though it was a bit all over the place. I like the pairing of Catwoman and Batman, and I like seeing more Catwoman, though I feel like kissing on rooftops while trying to catch criminals is kinda a wast of time. I liked the intertwined plotlines, with future Selena. I like that they had a future together, and I'm assuming it was mostly a happy ending for them. I guess I'll find out in the next issues. Also, the art is really good.
I loved the art in this! Honestly it probably carries most of this first issue. The flow of the story is a little rough but the story itself should be fun. At least if we get more in depth with the Bat/Cat relationship than we did here. Once I learned who the man was that Selina met up with though his dialogue seems not so fitting but overall enjoyed the issue. 3.5/5
Love this first issue! It is told in three different time periods of their lives. I like how each period is shown in such a different degree. The inclusion of Andrea Beaumont means some Phantasm action soon!! There is a way that these two characters work together that is like nothing else in comics. Tom King well done!