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First published October 1, 2014
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Christos Ikonomou
10 books55 followersCHRISTOS IKONOMOU was born in Athens in 1970. He has published three collections of short stories, The Woman on the Rails (2003), Something Will Happen, You'll See (2010), and All Good Things Will Come From The Sea (2014). Something Will Happen, You'll See won Greece’s prestigious Best Short-Story Collection State Award and became the most reviewed Greek book of 2011. His work has been translated into six languages.
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July 3, 2025
DAL MARE VERRÀ OGNI BENE. OPPURE LA FINE
L’isola delle Cicladi dove sono ambientati tutti e quattro i racconti non è mai chiamata col suo vero nome, ma si capisce che si tratta di Serifo. E a Serifo, come in qualsiasi isola greca, non può mancare la chora.
Ho l’impressione ci sia un po’ di confusione su questo libro.
La casa editrice lo spaccia per romanzo in copertina, mentre invece è composto da quattro racconti con tanto di titolo ciascuno (speranza di vendere più copie rifuggendo dalla definizione di racconti?).
Alcuni recensori parlano di un protagonista unico, Tassos, che in realtà compare solo nel primo racconto.
E tutti quanti sintetizzano e citano solo ed esclusivamente la bandella e il primo racconto.
Superato il quale, la vita si fa ardua per il lettore, ed evidentemente i recensori oltre il primo racconto non sono andati: infatti, il primo va avanti quasi bene – se non che, poi, Ikonomou comincia a delirare, farneticare, declamare, sproloquiare, ripetere, ripetersi, e così, allittera, reitera, declina, ridonda, proprio come sto facendo ora io, cerca la rima, la poesia, la canzone, la filastrocca, si rivolge a un pubblico (seconda persona plurale, formula che detesto), oppure sono i suoi personaggi che si rivolgono a gente che non si sa chi sia.
Che fanno, chi sono, dove vanno?
Serifo, o Serfanto.
Vengono da Atene, questo è chiaro: sono venuti da Atene su quest’isola delle Cicladi per cercare riscatto, per ricominciare, una vita diversa, un’esistenza nuova. Ma l’accoglienza dei locali, i cosiddetti ratti, non è delle più calorose: perché, prima del bene, dal mare arriva la concorrenza, e la fame.
E quindi tra locali e immigrati l’armonia non regna certo sovrana, la legge che governa è ‘mors tua vita mea’.
Nei quattro racconti può succedere che si senta nominare lo stesso personaggio più volte, ma i protagonisti cambiano da storia a storia. Con un comune denominatore: non si parla di bene, le cose vanno male, locande vengono incendiate, gente sparisce nelle grotte e non riappare più, gente sparisce in mare e riappare ancora meno, anziani si trastullano con giovani virgulti in un crescendo di disastri.
Si potrebbe parlare di pirotecnia, volendo essere gentili, avendo apprezzato la scrittura.
Io ho faticato. Parecchio. Centoventi pagine scarse che proprio non mi andavano giù, come la carne da bambino.
Chiaro di luna sulla Chora, dannatamente pittoresco.
L’isola è approdo, terra nuova, ma anche trappola. Paradiso e inferno. Circondata dal mare dal quale arriveranno i turisti e il bene, ma anche isolata dal mare, che può trasformarsi in un’unica immensa tomba.
I quattro racconti sono tutti ambientati sulla stessa isola, compongono tutto meno che un romanzo, cambiano personaggi e protagonisti, ma mantengono lo stile del prode Ikonomou, a base di scoppi e strepiti e imprecazioni e invocazioni e pleonasmi.
Il bene arriva dal mare, più chiaro di così!
Si palpa la rabbia per come si è ridotta ed è stata ridotta la Grecia, il paese di Christos Ikonomou.
La situazione è nota, soprattutto a noi italiani, che sentiamo viva la somiglianza e vicinanza: rischiamo di essere i prossimi, in Europa solo la Grecia ci batte quanto a corruzione e marciume, come si fa a non fraternizzare?
L’accanimento dell’Europa, la crisi economica, la disoccupazione, le imprese che chiudono, il redentore che si è rivelato l’ennesimo demagogo, il referendum disatteso…
…Tutti aspetti che conosciamo bene, dannatamente bene.
Per il resto la vita nell’isola è avvincente perché, come direbbe John Donne, nessun uomo è un’isola, e se il mare porta via anche una sola zolla, l’Europa diminuisce.
Parole straordinarie. E questa, sull’Europa che diminuisce, questa, Chronis, potrebbe essere, come dire, uno spunto di riflessione per i nostri partner e amici europei – tra o senza virgolette questa frase, care amiche e cari amici - i quali escogitano tante e svariate trovate per il nostro paese e il suo popolo orgoglioso ma duramente provato. Parole straordinarie, significative. Ripetile, Chronis, ti preghiamo.
Se il mare porta via anche solo una zolla, l’Europa diminuisce.
L’isola delle Cicladi dove sono ambientati tutti e quattro i racconti non è mai chiamata col suo vero nome, ma si capisce che si tratta di Serifo. E a Serifo, come in qualsiasi isola greca, non può mancare la chora.
Ho l’impressione ci sia un po’ di confusione su questo libro.
La casa editrice lo spaccia per romanzo in copertina, mentre invece è composto da quattro racconti con tanto di titolo ciascuno (speranza di vendere più copie rifuggendo dalla definizione di racconti?).
Alcuni recensori parlano di un protagonista unico, Tassos, che in realtà compare solo nel primo racconto.
E tutti quanti sintetizzano e citano solo ed esclusivamente la bandella e il primo racconto.
Superato il quale, la vita si fa ardua per il lettore, ed evidentemente i recensori oltre il primo racconto non sono andati: infatti, il primo va avanti quasi bene – se non che, poi, Ikonomou comincia a delirare, farneticare, declamare, sproloquiare, ripetere, ripetersi, e così, allittera, reitera, declina, ridonda, proprio come sto facendo ora io, cerca la rima, la poesia, la canzone, la filastrocca, si rivolge a un pubblico (seconda persona plurale, formula che detesto), oppure sono i suoi personaggi che si rivolgono a gente che non si sa chi sia.
Che fanno, chi sono, dove vanno?
Serifo, o Serfanto.
Vengono da Atene, questo è chiaro: sono venuti da Atene su quest’isola delle Cicladi per cercare riscatto, per ricominciare, una vita diversa, un’esistenza nuova. Ma l’accoglienza dei locali, i cosiddetti ratti, non è delle più calorose: perché, prima del bene, dal mare arriva la concorrenza, e la fame.
E quindi tra locali e immigrati l’armonia non regna certo sovrana, la legge che governa è ‘mors tua vita mea’.
Nei quattro racconti può succedere che si senta nominare lo stesso personaggio più volte, ma i protagonisti cambiano da storia a storia. Con un comune denominatore: non si parla di bene, le cose vanno male, locande vengono incendiate, gente sparisce nelle grotte e non riappare più, gente sparisce in mare e riappare ancora meno, anziani si trastullano con giovani virgulti in un crescendo di disastri.
Si potrebbe parlare di pirotecnia, volendo essere gentili, avendo apprezzato la scrittura.
Io ho faticato. Parecchio. Centoventi pagine scarse che proprio non mi andavano giù, come la carne da bambino.
Chiaro di luna sulla Chora, dannatamente pittoresco.
L’isola è approdo, terra nuova, ma anche trappola. Paradiso e inferno. Circondata dal mare dal quale arriveranno i turisti e il bene, ma anche isolata dal mare, che può trasformarsi in un’unica immensa tomba.
I quattro racconti sono tutti ambientati sulla stessa isola, compongono tutto meno che un romanzo, cambiano personaggi e protagonisti, ma mantengono lo stile del prode Ikonomou, a base di scoppi e strepiti e imprecazioni e invocazioni e pleonasmi.
Il bene arriva dal mare, più chiaro di così!
Si palpa la rabbia per come si è ridotta ed è stata ridotta la Grecia, il paese di Christos Ikonomou.
La situazione è nota, soprattutto a noi italiani, che sentiamo viva la somiglianza e vicinanza: rischiamo di essere i prossimi, in Europa solo la Grecia ci batte quanto a corruzione e marciume, come si fa a non fraternizzare?
L’accanimento dell’Europa, la crisi economica, la disoccupazione, le imprese che chiudono, il redentore che si è rivelato l’ennesimo demagogo, il referendum disatteso…
…Tutti aspetti che conosciamo bene, dannatamente bene.
Per il resto la vita nell’isola è avvincente perché, come direbbe John Donne, nessun uomo è un’isola, e se il mare porta via anche una sola zolla, l’Europa diminuisce.
Parole straordinarie. E questa, sull’Europa che diminuisce, questa, Chronis, potrebbe essere, come dire, uno spunto di riflessione per i nostri partner e amici europei – tra o senza virgolette questa frase, care amiche e cari amici - i quali escogitano tante e svariate trovate per il nostro paese e il suo popolo orgoglioso ma duramente provato. Parole straordinarie, significative. Ripetile, Chronis, ti preghiamo.
Se il mare porta via anche solo una zolla, l’Europa diminuisce.
November 28, 2020
Good Will Come from the Sea by Christos Ikonomou
Four short stories set in Greece during the time of the Greek financial crisis and severe economic depression. The worst years were around 2007-2010. A couple of hundred hard-up folks have left Athens and gone back to the countryside on one of the islands to farm and to try to set up businesses. But they are immediately seen as competitors to the already hard-up locals and their home-grown “mafia system” of bribery, graft and corruption. Smuggling and selling knock-off liquor is big business.
The locals call the new arrivals “foreigners” and the new arrivals call the locals “rats.” This is a game of hardball. People are killed, beaten-up or they disappear; businesses are burned. The police are useless. All this goes on behind the scenes, so to speak, because the main business on the island is to offer an exotic locale of sun and fun to German, Scandinavian, and other European tourists.
I recall seeing a clip on TV news during the height of Greece’s financial crisis. [This is not in the book, but it is related.] It was a human-interest story about a Greek emigrant (I think he was in Germany) seeing a video on German TV of an old man crying outside a pharmacy in Athens trying to get money for his wife’s medication. The viewer in Germany recognized the man as a friend of his deceased father. The Greek man in Germany sent him money and set up a fund to get contributions for others in Greece. That’s how bad things were.
To give you a flavor of the stories, in Kill the German, a wheelchair bound man plots to kill an elderly neighbor who brings an underage girl up to his apartment every night. (With her mother’s consent.) He wrestles with the moral dilemma: would it have been wrong to kill Hitler?
In “I’ll Swallow Your Dreams,” a man whose mantra is “Good will come from the sea,” tries to establish an agricultural cooperative. He is disfigured by the local mob, but doesn’t give up,
In the title story, a man goes insane wandering the island looking in caves for his missing son. The son was hired as a “pretty boy” to work on a luxury ship owned by the wealthiest man on the island.
In “Kites in July,” a young couple fulfills their dream of opening a taverna. It burns to the ground. The young woman dreams of rebuilding and her husband thinks she’s crazy. They lost everything.
There are a lot of people who have taken to drug abuse during their hardship. Male factory workers who lost their jobs now look for day labor; a young woman used to be a dental assistant now can only find occasional work as a stripper. A woman who is the only person who cares for her live-in father hears him beg her every night when she goes to work – 'Don’t leave me or I’ll die.’ It’s layoffs, evictions, bankruptcies and suicides.
One of the characters gets phone calls from an uncle who emigrated to Germany: “He didn’t like Raphael one bit. More German than a German. You folks down there, he’d say to Stavros. You folks down there do this, do that. You folks down there need to learn to work. To stop crying over spilled milk and figure out how to stand on your own two feet. No one owes you anything. You know what’s to blame? Your backward ways. Two hundred years later, you still haven’t decided if you want to be European. I mean, who do you think you are? Really, who?” That’s helpful.
The theme of many of these stories seems to be “don’t follow your dreams” and “you can’t buck the system.” “Good will come from the sea” is a cynical joke. I recall a discussion recently on GR about another review I posted where we talked about ‘is it fair to call a book depressing?’ I think we ended up saying ‘melancholy’ is a better descriptor. But, if it is fair to call a book depressing, I’ll nominate this one. But these are good stories, well-written. Assuming the situations described are generally truthful, even though it’s fiction, I learned a lot about how hard life has been during this economic depression in Greece.
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The author was born in Greece in 1970. He has published four collections of short stories; this was his third book.
Top photo of people at a soup kitchen in Greece from independent.co.uk
A town on the island of Santorini from travelagewest.com
The author from therumpus.net
Four short stories set in Greece during the time of the Greek financial crisis and severe economic depression. The worst years were around 2007-2010. A couple of hundred hard-up folks have left Athens and gone back to the countryside on one of the islands to farm and to try to set up businesses. But they are immediately seen as competitors to the already hard-up locals and their home-grown “mafia system” of bribery, graft and corruption. Smuggling and selling knock-off liquor is big business.
The locals call the new arrivals “foreigners” and the new arrivals call the locals “rats.” This is a game of hardball. People are killed, beaten-up or they disappear; businesses are burned. The police are useless. All this goes on behind the scenes, so to speak, because the main business on the island is to offer an exotic locale of sun and fun to German, Scandinavian, and other European tourists.
I recall seeing a clip on TV news during the height of Greece’s financial crisis. [This is not in the book, but it is related.] It was a human-interest story about a Greek emigrant (I think he was in Germany) seeing a video on German TV of an old man crying outside a pharmacy in Athens trying to get money for his wife’s medication. The viewer in Germany recognized the man as a friend of his deceased father. The Greek man in Germany sent him money and set up a fund to get contributions for others in Greece. That’s how bad things were.
To give you a flavor of the stories, in Kill the German, a wheelchair bound man plots to kill an elderly neighbor who brings an underage girl up to his apartment every night. (With her mother’s consent.) He wrestles with the moral dilemma: would it have been wrong to kill Hitler?
In “I’ll Swallow Your Dreams,” a man whose mantra is “Good will come from the sea,” tries to establish an agricultural cooperative. He is disfigured by the local mob, but doesn’t give up,
In the title story, a man goes insane wandering the island looking in caves for his missing son. The son was hired as a “pretty boy” to work on a luxury ship owned by the wealthiest man on the island.
In “Kites in July,” a young couple fulfills their dream of opening a taverna. It burns to the ground. The young woman dreams of rebuilding and her husband thinks she’s crazy. They lost everything.
There are a lot of people who have taken to drug abuse during their hardship. Male factory workers who lost their jobs now look for day labor; a young woman used to be a dental assistant now can only find occasional work as a stripper. A woman who is the only person who cares for her live-in father hears him beg her every night when she goes to work – 'Don’t leave me or I’ll die.’ It’s layoffs, evictions, bankruptcies and suicides.
One of the characters gets phone calls from an uncle who emigrated to Germany: “He didn’t like Raphael one bit. More German than a German. You folks down there, he’d say to Stavros. You folks down there do this, do that. You folks down there need to learn to work. To stop crying over spilled milk and figure out how to stand on your own two feet. No one owes you anything. You know what’s to blame? Your backward ways. Two hundred years later, you still haven’t decided if you want to be European. I mean, who do you think you are? Really, who?” That’s helpful.
The theme of many of these stories seems to be “don’t follow your dreams” and “you can’t buck the system.” “Good will come from the sea” is a cynical joke. I recall a discussion recently on GR about another review I posted where we talked about ‘is it fair to call a book depressing?’ I think we ended up saying ‘melancholy’ is a better descriptor. But, if it is fair to call a book depressing, I’ll nominate this one. But these are good stories, well-written. Assuming the situations described are generally truthful, even though it’s fiction, I learned a lot about how hard life has been during this economic depression in Greece.
[image error]
The author was born in Greece in 1970. He has published four collections of short stories; this was his third book.
Top photo of people at a soup kitchen in Greece from independent.co.uk
A town on the island of Santorini from travelagewest.com
The author from therumpus.net
September 3, 2019
Τέσσερις διηγήσεις κι ισάριθμες υπομνήσεις μιας κουβέντας που συνηθίζανε να λένε οι ξενομπάτες μεταξύ τους, περισσότερο για να ξορκίσουν το κακό μαντάτο παρά σαν προσδοκία: «Το καλό θα ‘ρθει από τη θάλασσα». Είχε σημασία να το πιστεύουν κιόλας; Σ’ έναν τόπο ξένο, που τον περιέβαλε το υγρό στοιχείο, κι οι ντόπιοι («αρουραίοι») ήταν μάλλον εχθρικοί, η θάλασσα δεν είναι το «άτιμο στοιχειό», που «θα σου σκάψει το λάκκο ή θα σε ρίξει πετσί και κόκκαλο, άχρηστο στον κόσμο» [για να θυμηθούμε τον Καρκαβίτσα], αλλά η υδάτινη ενσάρκωση της ελπίδας, η διαρκής προσμονή ενός μέλλοντος που αξίζει τουλάχιστον να τ’ ονειρεύεσαι (έχει, άραγε, σημασία που ξέρεις πως δεν θα το ζήσεις ποτέ;)
Όλοι κοιτούν προς τη θάλασσα, μπας κι ανταμώσουν το καλό που προσδοκούν. Έστω κι αν για τον καθέναν από τους ήρωες των διηγημάτων του Χρήστου Οικονόμου, το καλό αυτό έχει αλλιώτικη μορφή. Ο Λάζαρος αναζητά τον αγνοούμενο γιο του (στο ομώνυμο διήγημα της συλλογής), η Άρτεμη κι ο Σταύρος, με φόντο τ’ αποκαΐδια των προσπαθειών τους, ονειρεύονται μια νέα αρχή (“Χαρταετοί τον Ιούλιο”), ο Χρόνης πασχίζει να λευτερωθεί από την ανημποριά της αναπηρίας του (“Σκότωσε τον Γερμανό”), κι όλοι στο νησί θυμούνται τον δύσμοιρο Τάσο που χώθηκε τόσο βαθιά στη σπηλιά που έγινε ένα με τα σκοτάδια της (“Θα σας καταπιώ τα όνειρα”).
Μονόλογοι μεγάλης δραματικής έντασης αναβιώνουν τα έργα και τα δράματα ανθρώπων που πίστεψαν ότι ξαναστήνοντας τη ζωή τους από την αρχή θα ξεμπέρδευαν διά παντός με το χθες. Αλλά, περιμένοντας ότι το καλό θα ‘ρθει από τη θάλασσα, λησμόνησαν ότι το κακό υπήρχε ανέκαθεν στις ψυχές των ανθρώπων.
Όλοι κοιτούν προς τη θάλασσα, μπας κι ανταμώσουν το καλό που προσδοκούν. Έστω κι αν για τον καθέναν από τους ήρωες των διηγημάτων του Χρήστου Οικονόμου, το καλό αυτό έχει αλλιώτικη μορφή. Ο Λάζαρος αναζητά τον αγνοούμενο γιο του (στο ομώνυμο διήγημα της συλλογής), η Άρτεμη κι ο Σταύρος, με φόντο τ’ αποκαΐδια των προσπαθειών τους, ονειρεύονται μια νέα αρχή (“Χαρταετοί τον Ιούλιο”), ο Χρόνης πασχίζει να λευτερωθεί από την ανημποριά της αναπηρίας του (“Σκότωσε τον Γερμανό”), κι όλοι στο νησί θυμούνται τον δύσμοιρο Τάσο που χώθηκε τόσο βαθιά στη σπηλιά που έγινε ένα με τα σκοτάδια της (“Θα σας καταπιώ τα όνειρα”).
Μονόλογοι μεγάλης δραματικής έντασης αναβιώνουν τα έργα και τα δράματα ανθρώπων που πίστεψαν ότι ξαναστήνοντας τη ζωή τους από την αρχή θα ξεμπέρδευαν διά παντός με το χθες. Αλλά, περιμένοντας ότι το καλό θα ‘ρθει από τη θάλασσα, λησμόνησαν ότι το κακό υπήρχε ανέκαθεν στις ψυχές των ανθρώπων.
«…πώς χάλασε έτσι, μωρέ Λάζαρε, τούτη η χώρα λέω, τις νύχτες που κάθομαι εδώ και ξενυχτώ σκέφτομαι πολλά, λέω πώς γίναμε έτσι, πώς ξενίσαμε έτσι ο ένας με τον άλλο, πώς γίνεται να μην μπορούμε να κάνουμε μαζί σ’ ένα τοσοδά νησί, μια στάλα τόπος και να τρωγόμαστε ανάμεσό μας, σεις να μας λέτε αρουραίους κι εσείς εμάς ξενομπάτες, κι ύστερα σκέφτομαι μπας κι ήμασταν πάντα έτσι, μπας κι ήταν που μπορούσαμε και κλέβαμε ο ένας τον άλλον αυτό που μας κράταγε τόσα χρόνια μαζί, μπας κι ήταν το χρήμα το ψεύτικο κι η κλεψιά, μπας κι ήταν αυτά που μας κάνανε ν’ ανεχόμαστε ο ένας τον άλλον, αυτά σκέφτομαι τις νύχτες που κάθομαι και ξενυχτώ και με πιάνει η ψυχή μου, γιατί δεν ξέρω τι ‘ναι χειρότερο τελικά, ν’ αγαπάς τη χώρα σου επειδή την κλέβεις ή να τη μισείς επειδή δεν μπορείς να την κλέψεις, και λέω τώρα που χάθηκε το χρήμα κάτι άλλο πρέπει να βρούμε για να ‘μαστε μαζί, αλλά δε βλέπω τίποτε, δε βλέπω να υπάρχει τίποτα πια, τίποτα, τίποτα….»
June 12, 2016
Ένα ακόμα καλό ελληνικό βιβλίο. Από αυτά που τελευταία αλλάζουν την εικόνα της ελληνικής λογοτεχνίας, κατ' εμέ. Πολύ ρεαλιστικό για την σύγχρονη ελληνική κοινωνία. Ο συγγραφέας περνάει πολλά μηνύματα. Το συστήνω ανεπιφύλακτα σε όλους.
May 16, 2015
Μια σύντομη αποτίμηση των τελευταίων τάσεων στη εγχώρια και ξένη λογοτεχνία είναι άνθηση που γνωρίζει η φόρμα του διηγήματος. Υπάρχει μια αλλαγή στο μυθοπλαστικό σκηνικό, και μάλλον αναβιώνει αυτή παράδοση που είχε ο τόπος μας στον πεζό λόγο, που θέλει τους διηγηματογράφους μας παραγωγικότερους των μυθιστοριογράφων, και με μεγαλύτερη επίδραση στην ελληνικά γράμματα. Σε αυτήν την τάση, λοιπόν, συστήνεται ο Χρήστος Οικονόμου, που με το προηγούμενο βιβλίο του, Κάτι θα Γίνει, θα δεις (εκδ. Πόλις, 2010, σελ. 264) είχε θέσει την θεματική του: ο αγώνας επιβίωσης στην Ελλάδα, ο καθημερινός άνθρωπος στην Ελλάδα του τώρα με ό,τι άχθος μπορεί να κουβαλάει.
Σε τούτη την συλλογή χωρίς να αποκλίνει από αυτή την προσέγγιση, τώρα εστιάζει σε έναν τόπο: ένα νησί του Αιγαίου (δεν ονομάζεται - θα μπορούσε να είναι οποιοσδήποτε ειδυλλιακό νησί μας) στο οποίο πρωτευουσιάνοι και λοιποί στεριανοί, προσπαθούν να συνυπάρξουν με τους ντόπιους. "Ξενομπάτες" οι πρώτοι, "αρουραίοι" οι τελευταίοι - παλεύουν να στεριώσουν σε εκείνον τον τόπο οι νέοι άνεργοι, που έφτασαν στο νησί, με όνειρα ρομαντικά. Τελικά, μέσα στην ίδια τους τη χώρα, στο γραφικό αυτό νησί, δεν συναντούν την φιλοξενία. Μα την απονία, το δηλητήριο μιας παράλογης ξενοφοβίας. Και πέφτουν στα γρανάζια ενός μαφιόζικου συστήματος που λυμαίνεται το νησί.
Είναι καλογραμμένο το βιβλίο του Οικονόμου. Είναι και συγκινητικό. Μα απολύτως ρεαλιστικό. Και μεταφέρει στον Έλληνα αναγνώστη μια ολότελα διαφορετική εικόνα των παράδεισων του εναλλακτικού τουρισμού. Γιατί πίσω, στις σκιές, στα παρασκήνια του alternative τουριστικού τόπου, κάτω από τις μάσκες της γραφικότητας, υπάρχει το συμφέρον και το οφθαλμός αντί οφθαλμού. Ο Οικονόμου δίχως να προσφεύγει στον εύκολο μελοδραματισμό, καταφέρνει να δημιουργεί έναν ήρεμο λυρισμό στις εικόνες του. Οι ήρωές του, μέσα στην πεζότητα και την αγριάδα των καταστάσεων, ρεαλιστικοί και «ζωντανοί», φέρουν λογοτεχνικότητα. Μετρημένη, μα ουσιώδη και χειροπιαστή, που κάνει τον αναγνώστη να τους αντιμετωπίζει ως ήρωες. Ο συγγραφέας τους βάζει να μαλώνουν, να χτυπιούνται και να αντιμετωπίζουν την απανθρωπιά. Μα συνεχίζουν να ονειρεύονται, να ελπίζουν, ακόμα και όταν τους ζώνει η απελπισία. Και να παλεύουν όταν είναι καταδικασμένοι πια.
Αξίζει να διαβαστεί αυτή η συλλογή ιστοριών; Αξίζει γιατί τέτοιες ιστορίες μας αφορούν. Και όταν τις αφηγείται μια τέτοια φωνή αποτελούν ένα απολαυστικό ανάγνωσμα.
Σε τούτη την συλλογή χωρίς να αποκλίνει από αυτή την προσέγγιση, τώρα εστιάζει σε έναν τόπο: ένα νησί του Αιγαίου (δεν ονομάζεται - θα μπορούσε να είναι οποιοσδήποτε ειδυλλιακό νησί μας) στο οποίο πρωτευουσιάνοι και λοιποί στεριανοί, προσπαθούν να συνυπάρξουν με τους ντόπιους. "Ξενομπάτες" οι πρώτοι, "αρουραίοι" οι τελευταίοι - παλεύουν να στεριώσουν σε εκείνον τον τόπο οι νέοι άνεργοι, που έφτασαν στο νησί, με όνειρα ρομαντικά. Τελικά, μέσα στην ίδια τους τη χώρα, στο γραφικό αυτό νησί, δεν συναντούν την φιλοξενία. Μα την απονία, το δηλητήριο μιας παράλογης ξενοφοβίας. Και πέφτουν στα γρανάζια ενός μαφιόζικου συστήματος που λυμαίνεται το νησί.
Είναι καλογραμμένο το βιβλίο του Οικονόμου. Είναι και συγκινητικό. Μα απολύτως ρεαλιστικό. Και μεταφέρει στον Έλληνα αναγνώστη μια ολότελα διαφορετική εικόνα των παράδεισων του εναλλακτικού τουρισμού. Γιατί πίσω, στις σκιές, στα παρασκήνια του alternative τουριστικού τόπου, κάτω από τις μάσκες της γραφικότητας, υπάρχει το συμφέρον και το οφθαλμός αντί οφθαλμού. Ο Οικονόμου δίχως να προσφεύγει στον εύκολο μελοδραματισμό, καταφέρνει να δημιουργεί έναν ήρεμο λυρισμό στις εικόνες του. Οι ήρωές του, μέσα στην πεζότητα και την αγριάδα των καταστάσεων, ρεαλιστικοί και «ζωντανοί», φέρουν λογοτεχνικότητα. Μετρημένη, μα ουσιώδη και χειροπιαστή, που κάνει τον αναγνώστη να τους αντιμετωπίζει ως ήρωες. Ο συγγραφέας τους βάζει να μαλώνουν, να χτυπιούνται και να αντιμετωπίζουν την απανθρωπιά. Μα συνεχίζουν να ονειρεύονται, να ελπίζουν, ακόμα και όταν τους ζώνει η απελπισία. Και να παλεύουν όταν είναι καταδικασμένοι πια.
Αξίζει να διαβαστεί αυτή η συλλογή ιστοριών; Αξίζει γιατί τέτοιες ιστορίες μας αφορούν. Και όταν τις αφηγείται μια τέτοια φωνή αποτελούν ένα απολαυστικό ανάγνωσμα.
April 17, 2023
An angry indictment of the misery suffered by Greece during the financial crisis, written with literary flair and an underlying enjoyment of the majesty of the Mediterranean landscape and mythical heritage.
I have memories of Spain’s downfall during the same period. Life often seemed grim and hopeless. When you met people they wouldn’t ask you if you were considering leaving, but when. But whenever we felt too sorry for ourselves, we looked at Greece and were thankful not to be them. This book perfectly captures that sense of rootlessness and despair, albeit with a set of issues I know nothing about – the lives of city transplants on the Greek islands.
The writing and translation here were both excellent. I have a couple of niggles: the stories were slightly more opaque than I personally enjoy or find necessary (though I did like the circular, digressive form of the telling) and women characters weren’t very plentiful or very well-developed. Still, I like Ikonomou’s style a lot, I liked his male characters, and I really enjoyed the manifest anger in this book; certainly it was a situation that merited a lot of anger.
I have memories of Spain’s downfall during the same period. Life often seemed grim and hopeless. When you met people they wouldn’t ask you if you were considering leaving, but when. But whenever we felt too sorry for ourselves, we looked at Greece and were thankful not to be them. This book perfectly captures that sense of rootlessness and despair, albeit with a set of issues I know nothing about – the lives of city transplants on the Greek islands.
The writing and translation here were both excellent. I have a couple of niggles: the stories were slightly more opaque than I personally enjoy or find necessary (though I did like the circular, digressive form of the telling) and women characters weren’t very plentiful or very well-developed. Still, I like Ikonomou’s style a lot, I liked his male characters, and I really enjoyed the manifest anger in this book; certainly it was a situation that merited a lot of anger.
February 1, 2015
Πήρα τις προάλλες τηλέφωνο έναν φίλο. «Κλείσε, κλείσε, μαλάκα, διαβάζω τον Οικονόμου», μου είπε. Έκλεισα το τηλέφωνο, άνοιξα τον Οικονόμου.
February 27, 2023
I loved this book.
This is an unofficial companion to Ikonomou's Something Will Happen, You'll See. Both short story collections take place around the time of the “The Crisis” of the mid-aughts. The former takes place in the milieu of lower-class urban Piraeus. This one is set on an unnamed Greek island where the locals treat economic refugees from Athens as outsiders (they call these fellow Greeks “foreigners” and the Athenians, in turn, call the islanders “rats”). These characters are all bloody-fingernail-clinging to a way of life that is rapidly evaporating in a country they’re having a hard time understanding. Greece is doing its best to break their hearts, yet they remain bewildered faithful lovers. They love being Greek but they despise Greece; They love Greece but they despise being Greek.
These stories are sad and complicated. But they're also very beautiful.
I remember thinking Something Will Happen, You'll See was at times awkwardly translated. But this one is beautifully treated, which is odd because Karen Emmerich translates both. I think I know why—the Piraeus stories had much more brutal expletives and profane expressions which I think are harder to convey nuance with. So some of the translated profanities seemed really harsh and awkward. Just something I noticed.
Did I mention, I loved this book?
If you're counting, this is Greek book #8 in my quest to cram as much contemporary Greek knowledge into my noggin before my trip to Athens and Sifnos in May.
This is an unofficial companion to Ikonomou's Something Will Happen, You'll See. Both short story collections take place around the time of the “The Crisis” of the mid-aughts. The former takes place in the milieu of lower-class urban Piraeus. This one is set on an unnamed Greek island where the locals treat economic refugees from Athens as outsiders (they call these fellow Greeks “foreigners” and the Athenians, in turn, call the islanders “rats”). These characters are all bloody-fingernail-clinging to a way of life that is rapidly evaporating in a country they’re having a hard time understanding. Greece is doing its best to break their hearts, yet they remain bewildered faithful lovers. They love being Greek but they despise Greece; They love Greece but they despise being Greek.
These stories are sad and complicated. But they're also very beautiful.
I remember thinking Something Will Happen, You'll See was at times awkwardly translated. But this one is beautifully treated, which is odd because Karen Emmerich translates both. I think I know why—the Piraeus stories had much more brutal expletives and profane expressions which I think are harder to convey nuance with. So some of the translated profanities seemed really harsh and awkward. Just something I noticed.
Did I mention, I loved this book?
If you're counting, this is Greek book #8 in my quest to cram as much contemporary Greek knowledge into my noggin before my trip to Athens and Sifnos in May.
October 2, 2015
Προσωπικά θεωρώ αυτή τη συλλογή άριστη. Η διαίσθηση του συγγραφέα είναι μια δεκαετία μπροστά από την πραγματικότητα. Η αποκέντρωση θα είναι αναγκαστική και συστηματική. Η νεο-αστική τάξη θα συγκρουστεί με την νεο-επαρχιώτικη και κερδισμένος δεν θα βγει κανένας. Αδημονώ για την συνέχεια.
March 19, 2019
As in an Something Will Happen, You'll See, his earlier collection of linked stories, Ikonomou examines the effect of the world order on the citizens of Greece. The earlier collection focussed on cities and urban situations. But here, he proves that inhabitants of unheralded islands are not exempt. Because of its unspoiled as yet untouristed nature, the unnamed island has become a target for unscrupulous investors who don't care that those already in residence have been self sustaining for millenia. Farmers are going out of business by the importation of tomatoes and onions from elsewhere, and as one points out, "Sometimes I think, we lost our jobs, our homes, our lives – why can’t we lose our memory too? Why did they take everything else but leave us our memory . . . Becoming poor isn’t what breaks you. What breaks you is remembering you didn’t used to be poor." Much of the monologue is interior, but the overall tenor is bleak, shattering.
April 12, 2019
Set on a Greek island, these stories depict lives struggling against organized crime, wide-spread violence and corruption, hopelessness and loss, characters fighting to survive with some shred their dignity intact. These are stories of people suspended between being cut down and allowed to stand tall. These were powerful stories of powerlessness. These were not easy to read, not simply because of the pain they held, but also because of the rambling, circular way they were told
June 21, 2020
Viết hay ghê, Hy Lạp hiện tại chỉ còn suy thoái, trộm cướp, băng đảng và những người lao động nghèo, Christos Ikonomou cũng viết về những điều đó nhưng với những câu văn rất thơ, giàu nhạc tính tuy cũng đầy rẫy bão giông. Với ông hòn đảo là những nhà tù còn biển là những chấn song ngăn người ta thoát ra, nhưng những điều tốt đẹp rối sẽ đến từ biển cả, điều đó được lặp đi lặp lại trong tập truyện ngắn với 4 câu chuyện liên kết nhau này, với niềm tin mãnh liệt dù bao ước mơ đã vụn vỡ dưới chân.
February 26, 2019
Sometimes I think, we lost our jobs, our homes, our lives - why can't we lose our memory, too? Why? Why did they take everything else but leave us our memory? Why couldn't they take that, too, while they were at it?
Becoming poor isn’t what breaks you. What breaks you is remembering that you didn’t use to be poor. That's what breaks you.
Good Will Come From the Sea by Christos Ikonomou, translated from the Greek by Karen Emmerich, is the story of a group of young people from Athens who following the devastation brought upon by the Greek economic crisis, decide to get away from the stress and difficulties of city life and relocate to a small, unnamed Aegean island in the hopes of starting over. But instead of starting an idyllic life on the island, they're met with suspicion and open hostility by the locals who refer to the group as Foreigners, and the Athenians respond to that by referring to the locals as Rats.
The novel actually consists of four long, loosely linked stories that each explore the effects of the economic and political crisis in Greece. You might automatically assume that the book is quite political, and you would be right, however, I think the author successfully manages to avoid going off on political diatribes and instead focuses on the individual struggles of an assortment of characters that combined together create a portrait of hardship, desperation, and poverty. But, despite the fact that these characters feel powerless and their hopes and dreams are constantly thwarted by the economic and political situation or by the people around them, you get the sense that these people still hold on to hope, however small, and however hidden.
One of the most interesting aspects of the book is how it spotlights, through the conflict between the Athenians (the Foreigners) and the locals (the Rats), the internal divisions and prejudices that exist within Greece between the people who live on the mainland and those who live on the many Greek islands, even though they are all Greeks. We see that such internal disunity among the groups of people only exacerbates their problems.
I remember us staring silently at the sea, remember wondering in my drunken haze how such a crowd of people could stay so silent for so long. Then Tasos said his piece about good coming from the sea because the sea has no memory, water doesn't remember. And I remember him saying that we need to be like the water, too, and blot out all the old stuff, forget the old stuff and make a new beginning. He said we have to forget that what united us for all those years was money - stolen or honest, it doesn't matter - and that what unites us now is the fact that we no longer have that money. We have to forget all that and find something new to bring us together, he said.
Good Will Come from the Sea is a darkly humorous and moving examination of the devastating effects that the economic crisis and severe austerity measures have had on Greece, heightened by the existing biases and social injustices in Greek society that impede any progress towards finding a way out of this labyrinth of suffering.
May 12, 2020
I went into this expecting a more straightforward novel instead of the four connected stories, but it quickly didn't matter because the narrative voice(s) is so arresting. Snark, pain, frustration, hope. Humans need to feel a sense of belonging and a sense of purpose. The historical and natural beauty of Greece hovers like a holographic projection just out of reach in these stories. Unemployment, shifting demographics, refugees... It's like a place which has had its placeness pulled out from under it. I'm not from Greece, but it feels like Ikonomou taps viscerally into the next generation's being between Scylla and Charybdis. Future generations may look back at fiscal austerity measures and record them in units of depressions and suicides.
I don't know how this reads in the original Greek, but this translation was a pleasure to experience.
(My copy was gratis, courtesy of Archipelago Books Free Ebook Library -- available through 5/20/20. Hat tip to Lia for the rec and the link!)
I don't know how this reads in the original Greek, but this translation was a pleasure to experience.
(My copy was gratis, courtesy of Archipelago Books Free Ebook Library -- available through 5/20/20. Hat tip to Lia for the rec and the link!)
May 19, 2025
Ultimately, I preferred Ikonomou's other short story collection, Something Will Happen, You'll See. Iknomou has a great eye for social conflict but writes these huge, single sentence paragraphs filled with clauses, and each clause tends to just restate whatever was previously said. In a way, it captures how people think, but when I get the point of something in a story I'm ready to move on.
June 26, 2019
Are you stuck in a book club with affluent members who have too much time on their hands and only a nominal commitment to Literature? Pick this book when your turn arises and you will set them all against you permanently, facilitating your decision to finally leave.
This book is clearly capital-L Literature. The writing is Beckett-like. The English translation is gorgeous. The scholar in you will admire it. The fun-loving tourist in you...not so much.
My copy of Good Things is currently overdue at the library. I put this book down, and started another, no less than six times. I kept picking it up again because I am a gal who eats her vitamins: I know what is good. I kept putting it down because I know what is good for me: a little less angst, a ray of hope. Perhaps two lovers who fly a kite.
Maybe I found what I was looking for.
This book is clearly capital-L Literature. The writing is Beckett-like. The English translation is gorgeous. The scholar in you will admire it. The fun-loving tourist in you...not so much.
My copy of Good Things is currently overdue at the library. I put this book down, and started another, no less than six times. I kept picking it up again because I am a gal who eats her vitamins: I know what is good. I kept putting it down because I know what is good for me: a little less angst, a ray of hope. Perhaps two lovers who fly a kite.
Maybe I found what I was looking for.
April 27, 2019
As an exploration of the Greek economic collapse this makes for some pretty grim reading. Set on an unnamed imaginary island in the Aegean, a microcosm of the whole of devastated Greece, four intertwined short stories portray the lives of migrants and locals struggling to survive poverty, corruption and despair. Draconian austerity measures have forced many Athenians to migrate to the island where they are resented by the locals and seen as invaders. The Athenians see the locals as “rats” who maintain the status quo with cartels and organized crime. There’s none of the romance normally associated with idyllic Greek islands to be found here, as the “rats” trample on the dreams and aspirations of the newcomers, often by violent means. After the EU bailout, severe austerity measures were imposed and the human cost of that is exemplified here. The displaced Athenians have been forced by unemployment to flee to the island but are shown no sympathy. It’s a bleak world they have arrived in. The book goes straight to the heart of the Greek economic collapse, and there seems to be little hope – even though one or two of the stories do perhaps show a glimmer and possibly the title suggests that good might come from the sea, as it has at times during the country’s history. A depressing but powerful story of loss, desperation and frustration and a strong sense of just what it’s like to live in a country gripped by economic crisis.
March 12, 2023
Εξαιρετική γραφή!!
July 17, 2020
too much complaining
November 13, 2020
Though we all agree that these days, with the country in the gutter, a real man, a hero, isn't the guy who fights evil, but the guy who learns to live with it.
Good Will Come from the Sea is a meditative collection of four interconnected short stories centered around the impact of the economic crash in Greece. All the characters live on the same small island and each is in the throes of deep internal turmoil due to the personal devastations of the recession. Crime, poverty and loss connect these stories as much as the characters do. The stories are fueled by anger and impotence. The men rail or despair against their current circumstances in their internal monologues.
The style is an unconventional stream of consciousness. For example, one story's narrator experiences much of his thoughts as though being interviewed in front of a live studio audience, no doubt as a crutch to his loneliness. Some stories I found a bit more opaque than others and so had a harder time grasping the full significance of the given part—and there is so much significance to these stories. A couple misses hardly diminished how hard-hitting and brutal this book can be. It showed me a new Greece, the one behind the white-washed hotels of Santorini and turquoise waters of Mykonos.
April 8, 2019
Christos Ikonomou’s Good Will Come From The Sea examines the intimate soul of contemporary Greece in a series of interrelated stories. These days when we think of Greece, we do not harken to the Poe poem about the glory that was Greece. Instead we throw our arms up in the air about the economics that is Greece. And their immigration. And how they do not fit into the EU.
Ikonomou isolates these problems in an island somewhat close to Naxos, but not quite as ruined by tourists as Myconos or Santorini. He does it both subtly and in your face. Although the stories can stand on their own, they are best read as a group. Each explores how there is no future here, no escape from the heart of the matter, no respite from the poverty and the forsakeness of the soul.
The characters jorney into a new world seeking release, but there is none. They have merely tightened the noose of a constricted world, only sorrow for the lost Lenore.
Ikonomou isolates these problems in an island somewhat close to Naxos, but not quite as ruined by tourists as Myconos or Santorini. He does it both subtly and in your face. Although the stories can stand on their own, they are best read as a group. Each explores how there is no future here, no escape from the heart of the matter, no respite from the poverty and the forsakeness of the soul.
The characters jorney into a new world seeking release, but there is none. They have merely tightened the noose of a constricted world, only sorrow for the lost Lenore.
May 20, 2020
This is my first read from the long list for the Best Translated Book Award, and it has set the bar really high. These four stories are at turns shocking, funny, heartbreaking and feel weirdly prophetic during the current pandemic, almost like science fiction minus its usual accoutrements (see In Milton Lunky Territory). More soon at Kate of Mind
September 12, 2020
Μια σειρά από τέσσερα διηγήματα που έχουν αρκετό ενδιαφέρον. Η γραφή άλλοτε παρουσιάζει λυρισμό, τρυφερότητα και ευαισθησία και άλλοτε γίνεται ωμή, σκληρή και ευθύβολη. Το περιεχόμενο δεν απέχει από την πραγματικότητα που βιώνει η χώρα τα τελευταία χρόνια. Το καλό παλεύει με το κακό σε μια μάχη με άνισους όρους. Θα νικήσει τελικά; Ένα είναι σίγουρο. "Η αρχή δεν είναι ποτέ πίσω μας.Η αρχή είναι πάντα μπροστά μας." Πάντα λοιπόν υπάρχει περιθώριο για ένα νέο ξεκίνημα...
August 11, 2024
не таку муть мені обіцяла анотація, ох не таку…
June 26, 2019
Good--
Another book I bought after finding it at a bookstore. The stories are solid—not mindblowing—but I was particularly impressed by the translation. It's so flawless and smooth (especially the colloquial/slang-y voice of the narrator) that there was almost nothing Greek in it. (Whether that's a problem is up for debate.) I really enjoyed the cadence, the tone, the voice of the narrator that seamlessly moves in and out of characters at will and has a touch of stream of consciousness to it, giving each story a relentless momentum that carries you almost breathless from beginning to end. They're all sad stories and you can sort of start to guess how they'll end after the first two stories, but still I kept reading them for the voice and the characters (who definitely compel the reader's sympathy with their pretty egregious plight).
Will read his earlier, award-winning collection for sure (and more translations by Karen Emmerich)
Another book I bought after finding it at a bookstore. The stories are solid—not mindblowing—but I was particularly impressed by the translation. It's so flawless and smooth (especially the colloquial/slang-y voice of the narrator) that there was almost nothing Greek in it. (Whether that's a problem is up for debate.) I really enjoyed the cadence, the tone, the voice of the narrator that seamlessly moves in and out of characters at will and has a touch of stream of consciousness to it, giving each story a relentless momentum that carries you almost breathless from beginning to end. They're all sad stories and you can sort of start to guess how they'll end after the first two stories, but still I kept reading them for the voice and the characters (who definitely compel the reader's sympathy with their pretty egregious plight).
Will read his earlier, award-winning collection for sure (and more translations by Karen Emmerich)
February 13, 2021
Picked this one up at @passaporta in Brussels a year ago. Four interconnected short stories about the life of Greeks after the financial crisis 2008-2012. It took me 100 pages to get my head around the stream-of-consciousness ramblings before remotely beginning to like this book. While the author has a clever perception on the workings of greek society, i was throroughly annoyed by the whining, the perputuation of systemic corruption of the government, local officers and its people who join this carroussel. The profanities in the book as well as the constant references to the institutionalized Greek habit of chain smoking and routine of numbing feelings with pot, littered throughout this book, were not my cup of tea #christosikonomou
March 19, 2016
Καλογραμμενο με κωμικα και μη στοιχεια..Ομολογω οτι το θεμα "κριση" και ελληνικη κοινωνια περιγραφεται από με ρεαλιστικη και ρομαντικη διαθεση..Οι ιστοριες διαδραματιζονται σε ενα αιγαιοπελαγιτικο νησι και δενονται μεταξυ τους με γερά και χωρις παραφωνιες.Οι "Αθηναιοι" και οι "αρουραιοι" προσπαθουν να συμβιβασουν αυτα που δεν συμβιβαζονται σε μια εποχη οικονομικης κρισης...Η φραση "το καλο θα 'ρθει από τη θαλασσα" μενει τελικα μετεωρο να αιωρειται στον ουρανο του Ιουλη σαν χαρταετός...Σήμερα μετά από τόσο καιρό από την κρίση τελικα μενουμε να αναρωτιωμαστε αν τελικα ηρθε ή προσπερασε ή περασε αλλα δεν του δωσαμε σημασια ή τελικα είμαστε εμεις το καλο για ολους εκεινους που ερχονται από τη θαλασσα! Ξεχωρίζω: 1) την ιστορια του Λαζαρου (Το καλό θα 'ρθει από τη θαλασσα) και την ιστορια του Σταύρου και της Άρτεμης (Χαρταετοι τον Ιούλιο).
July 2, 2016
Jälle Kreeka uuem värk ja väga hea, väga mõjuv ja haarav, syda valutab kohe algusest kaasa, poolmagav inimene loeb ka aina edasi. Sobib hästi komplekti teiste viimase aja lemmikute Cormacu ja "Seven killingsiga", nii kirjutamise kui ka teemade poolest (ei tea, kas mulle satuvad headest ette just sellised või on aeg, kus mulle rängad raamatud meeldivadki?), aga kui lugesin intervjuust, et selle autori yks öökapiraamatuid on "Blood meridian", siis paneb judisema kyll. Tahaks teda õlale patsutada, et ära muretse, elu on natuke hea ka.
December 10, 2020
Δυνατή πλοκή, καλογραμμένο. Για τους Έλληνες της σύγχρονης κρίσης. Μιας κρίσης που τους σκλήρυνε, τους χώρισε και τους ένωσε σε μια κοινή μοίρα. Μου άρεσαν πολύ οι χαρακτήρες, σκηνοθετικά δομημένο, θα μου άρεσε πολύ να το έβλεπα σε ταινία!
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