Long ago, there was a mad god who almost destroyed the world.
And he is still out there, waiting…
On a cold winter's evening, Liv Stellack escapes a bad date…and walks straight into nightmare. Kidnapped and held without ransom, she's ready to use every trick in the book to escape. But her captors aren't criminals, they're Sons of Ymre, hunters of the unclean things living in the cracks of sanity and dreams—and Liv is a valuable tool in their war against the Mad God.
Erik knows the beautiful woman they've rescued can't possibly understand the danger she's in, or the fact that she's being held for her own protection. Some things can't be explained, only shown; he and his fellow Sons have to keep their precious potential alive long enough for the days to lengthen so she can be transported to another temple and learn how to fight an evil older than recorded history.
But treachery lives in the Mad God's chosen, and it's soon obvious that one of the Sons can't be trusted. Fleeing for their lives, Liv and Erik must make an uneasy alliance, depending on each other to reach tenuous safety.
Lilith Saintcrow was born in New Mexico, bounced around the world as a child, and fell in love with writing stories when she was ten years old. She and her library co-habitate in Vancouver, Washington.
I think there’s no denying Ms Saintcrow is a very talented author. Unfortunately that admission doesn’t help in writing this review. Nor I can avoid being honest: this book was a Frankenstein monster. Well written, if you like her style, but I could pinpoint exactly what section came from which book of hers. There’s literally nothing new, from the self loathing, to the “bond” that saves, the potential, the sons/diaboli/watcher and their order/legion/othername, the light/flame-bringer (that rings a bell?) that the dark wants to eat, the betrayal, even the ending. Not a single point hasn’t already been written in a different book. It was absolutely jarring.
But I admit this book started all wrong with a man hating that should have been cut out. At least I read it as such. Notice the “I”. (She was on a date and the guy wasn’t simply an ass, we learn after he was a serial rapist to boot. Was it necessary? Was all the men are b/ad/astard thoughts necessary?) So it really started wrong for me, but this chapter was forgotten by the sheer audacity (let’s call it this way) of what came after.
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Three and a half I loved this authors Dante and Jill Kismet series but hadn't read any of her recent work until I happened to spot this. It's as unique as I expected but does kind of take its time. No not a slow build but more lots (particularly the first half) of nothing really happening. The first page grabbed my attention as our heroine just came across as bright and sassy but then unfortunately a lot of page time went on describing the various monsters. That could be good but I struggled to really imagine them as we are constantly told they cannot be truly understood by humans and frankly there are just so many types and I defy anyone to understand what a cross between a spider and a vegetable looks like! I feel this series has lots of potential and the characters introduced and their somewhat both peculiar and ambiguous circumstances are definitely a new departure in urban fantasy. I feel Liv's life with the Sons will be a bumpy one but as I trust this author to entertain her readers I do look forward to following this journey. This voluntary take is of a copy I requested from Netgalley and my thoughts and comments are honest and I believe fair
So here's the thing. The story here was actually pretty good and interesting. But for some reason, absolutely forgettable. I would literally be like, 'what was I reading?....Oh yeah!' when I would think about it between reads. And I honestly can't say why.
For most of the book I found Liv to be sooooooo annoying. Especially in the beginning. I mean, I get it. She was, for all intents and purposes, kidnapped. But just something about her personality and her actions really grated on me. As for all of the other characters, I was really rather quite ambivalent about them. Even the male lead, Erik. He was just way too by rules in how he clearly liked Liv as a person but wouldn't allow himself to even think of her as more than someone he has to protect because it is his duty and she's owed it.
So basically what's going on here is that nightmares are real and these creatures of the dark go out every night looking for their next meal. The only thing stopping them and the Mad God they serve is an army men who have turned against said god who call themselves the Sons of Ymre. And people known as dreamers. It's kind of iffy what exactly a dreamer is. I mean, we learn that they can have premonitions, and they can heal the Sons with energy from the Earth, as well as use that same energy to fight back the monsters. But what exactly they are or do? Not so much.
Liv is escaping from a horrible online date when she walks right into a fight against the monsters. It's immediately realized that she is a potential (as in potential dreamer) and taken to the Sons' temple for protection. But when she wakes up, that's definitely not how she sees it. She's determined to escape and to make her captors' lives hell. She succeeds at only one. Waiting for the days to get longer before they move her to a safer location proves to be a horrible decision when the monsters attack the temple they're in en masse, forcing the Sons to fight a losing battle and flee with their precious cargo.
Things do pick up in the story from here as they are on the run. But nothing goes right for this group. From having their car blown up (more than once), to being attacked in waves by the monsters, and having what they thought was an active temple be abandoned. When the three Sons are split up, it leaves Erik alone to protect Liv. And he's determined to do so even if it literally kills him. At least he some how manages to get Liv to an active temple without that happening. But by this point it's clear that there is a traitor somewhere because nothing of this situation was standard procedure. Worse. Erik and the two Sons stationed with him have been reported as dead for over 10 years.
When the traitor makes his move at the end, it's really not a surprise. But he sure lets his crazy free now. Even though Liv is woefully outmatched, she has been practicing with her own unlocked power for a few weeks now and manages to at least save herself until help comes. And Erik might just have to give his life for her after all.
I gotta say that while the ending was probably one of those sweet cute things, it was very unfulfilling. When you give the impression that the two main characters are going to become a couple in the book....they should become a couple in the book. But I hardly even saw either of them doing anything that would make the other like them that much. It was really frustrating.
I'm on the fence over if I would read the next book or not. This wasn't bad...but like I mentioned, also not that memorable. So I guess we'll see.
I received a copy of this book from NetGalley in exchange for an honest review.
I am going to be honest, this one was a struggle to read for me. My actual rating is 2.5, but I bumped it up.
So the premise sounded a bit dodgy, but I was like "okay, it might be okay. Let's give it a try!" Oh boy...
So the beginning was super super dodgy for me. Liv goes on this date, and this guy is full of himself so Liv dodges out the back door with the help of the serving staff. Awesome! But instead of leaving it there, the author later reveals that Liv dodged a huge bullet, Could have left that out for sure.
Why? because Liv pops out the back door and into a fight. Erik and his brother (whom I forget the name of already) are fighting in the backstreet and Liv gets caught in the crossfire and goes down from the hit. She's out cold. Erik and his brother finish the fight and immediately realize Liv is no ordinary woman, but some sort of dream. The brother immediately starts talking of raping her to 'seal' her. Erik is a bit more with the century and says no...followed up by 'let's kidnap her instead.'
Liv spends the next bit of the book, waking up and trying to figure out various ways to get away from her kidnappers. When these attempts fail she goes back and forth between trying to escape and making their lives far harder then they need to be in revenge for kidnapping her. Good girl.
But then the temple is attacked and they are forced to flee and somewhere in the mix Liv gets Stockholm syndrome and joins her captures to battle the blatantly obvious villain who is far more powerful than they are. Good thing Liv got a few weeks of practicing with her new found ability and Erik is willing to die for her though!
Seriously though, once the first temple is attacked things pick up in the pacing. However, by this point I was pretty un-invested and was reading this book in small chunks whenever I only had a few minutes to spare to read and didn't want to get locked into something better. If the first half of the book was shorter and the author cut out all the rape talk from the 'heroes' and the last bit of the book is longer, I would have been happier. The end of the book was cute, but there were a few loose threads. Did Liv ever tell anyone from her life she was still alive and kicking, or is she just another missing person at this point? Why did the mad god want her? What is so special about her?
As David Attenborough says, "We simply...don't know."
Conclusion?
I hated the start with all the rape talk and the kidnapping and a bunch of powerful dudes not respecting the wishes of Liv. For her safety or not, imprisonment, even in the nicest place, is still imprisonment. The reason why Beauty and the Beast works for most people is because the Beast learns this and lets Belle go. She comes back because it's love. Stockholm syndrome or no it makes for a better story.
It got better towards the end, to a degree, but not completely. By the time I got there I had emotionally checked out. Some people complain Saintcrow is repetitive, but seeing how this is the first book of hers I recall reading, I can't say if it is true or not. This one wasn't for me but I am definitively willing to try another one of hers.
As other reviewers have said, this is a retreat of some very common themes and plots in Saintcrow's other PNRs. Magical order of dudes who have to protect psychic women - you've seen that before. Woman ripped from her normal life - effectively kidnapped by the hero as he protects her from demons? Yep. Her coming to love and trust him as he saves her life? Yep.
This is a formula I enjoy, and I've given other iterations of it 5/5 stars, but not this one. Why? Because over half the book is spent at the kidnapping stage. Effectively nothing happens for over a hundred pages as she keeps trying to escape, realizes that a monster tried to eat her, she gets rescued, and she pines for her life, and the days keep passing and she keeps being told that she'll get answers when they bring her to the Flame.
Now, this IS part of the plot, there IS a mystery as to why she's not moved from the initial temple where Erik and his two coworkers are staying to a hub with more guards and resources, but bluntly it wasn't compelling enough to explain why we spent so much time in that one place.
Finally, a big scary demon attacks the place, they have to go on the run, and very quickly it's Erik and Liv on the road (mercifully briefly, I wasn't up for Incorruptible or Roadtrip Z again) to the big temple.
I think I would have liked the back half of the book if it were longer, honestly, but it felt rushed. They're finally meeting other dudes! Getting answers! You're solving the mystery! There's a final confrontation!
...but it ends right after that and leaves so much unresolved that I'm just unsatisfied. Does she ever get to call her friends and let them know she's okay? Do she and Erik ever have sex? This is literally a plotpoint, as having sex means that she'll be "sealed" and thus safer, but Erik keeps saying "not until she wants it" and by the time she DOES want it the book ends. Argh! I'm not a sex hound but you can't do that to me!
Other questions: why did the God want her so damn bad? Why is she special? Where's another character who went missing?
So - argh. Argh argh argh. I know Saintcrow can do better, that's why I bought this sight unseen. I was super excited to see that this book would go past the ending of Incorruptible (as that one was a long roadtrip to the destination and it got interesting and then it ended) but then it fiddled about and then ended.
More complaints: I never really bought Liv as a character. Weirdly flat, weirdly... I don't know, her trauma didn't speak to me, and she spent a LOT of the book dealing with being kidnapped, which was realistic, but we didn't really get to see her adapting or anything. And Erik is so boilerplate Saintcrow that I have nothing to say about him. He's a big beefy man who wants to protect the heroine and he's guilty for what he's done to her and he'll die to save her and that's it.
Whoof. Didn't realize how much complaining I had to get out my system, but... Saintcrow, I adore your writing. I keep buying it. But this one was a big whiff, even if I did love the monster descriptions and fight scenes.
If you're a newbie to her work - read Incorruptible instead, it's WAY better.
Sons of Ymre Erik by Lilith Saintcrow. Sons of ymre book 1. Long ago, there was a mad god who almost destroyed the world.And he is still out there, waiting… On a cold winter's evening, Liv Stellack escapes a bad date…and walks straight into nightmare. Kidnapped and held without ransom, she's ready to use every trick in the book to escape. But her captors aren't criminals, they're Sons of Ymre, hunters of the unclean things living in the cracks of sanity and dreams—and Liv is a valuable tool in their war against the Mad God.Erik knows the beautiful woman they've rescued can't possibly understand the danger she's in, or the fact that she's being held for her own protection. Some things can't be explained, only shown; he and his fellow Sons have to keep their precious potential alive long enough for the days to lengthen so she can be transported to another temple and learn how to fight an evil older than recorded history.But treachery lives in the Mad God's chosen, and it's soon obvious that one of the Sons can't be trusted. Fleeing for their lives, Liv and Erik must make an uneasy alliance, depending on each other to reach tenuous safety.That is, if the monsters don't get them first… I really really enjoyed this book. I liked Liv Eric and Jacob. 4*.
This is urban fantasy. While there is some romance buried in the background, there is no kissing and no physical intimacy.
It's very, very, very slow build.
I did not expect who the traitor was.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
Heroine is kidnapped after the hero and his fellow soldier (both Sons of Ymre) find out she is a "potential". She has magic and if she is put into the "Flame" she can become a "Dreamer" a lairai.
She can help them fight monsters. Her abilities also help the Sons keep insanity at bay.
She is told she needs to "seal" to a Son because they can protect her and she protects their mind. She refuses. Hero refuses to do it without her consent. The others are frustrated because when not "sealed" the evil bad guy is able to get them easier.
She is still not "sealed" at the end of the book. But she told hero she'd like to seal to him and they should go on a date. Hero has never been on a date.
I love this book. It is a dark and gritty urban fantasy. It is set in a whole new world with nightmare monsters and a “Mad God.” The sons have broken away from his service and now try to protect humanity. They are set in a trio of warriors: a father, an elder and a younger. This book features Erik, an elder. With Ignatius as the father and Jake (Jacob) as the younger. Erik and Jake are on patrol, fighting monsters in their city, when they stumble across Liv. She is a potential. A person with the ability to focus the good life force as a weapon of war and healing. Now they just need to get her to a larger temple for training. This book is nonstop action. Lilith Saintcrow is a master at world building. And her imagination is endless. I can’t wait te see what’s next.
From cover to cover I could not put this book down. So happy to be reading a new and exciting fast paced series from Lillith St. Crow. Characters and world (ours, great twist) MC's Liv and Erik and the slowly building relationship in the midst of madness and constant action were like paranormal eye candy.
I’ve been reading Lilith Saintcrow’s books since I first got my hands on them at my public library back when I was a teenager (10+ years ago) and this writer can not write a bad book. Her unique writing style literally has me tasting her words and slavering for more.
This book better be a series. That’s all I’m saying.
I zipped through this at hyperspeed. Strong world-building and characters, lots of action, short chapters and So Much Tension. I didn't want to put it down.
Quibble: Several references to Stockholm syndrome, which I thought had been discredited...
I loved this book. Lilith Saintcrow is one of my favorite authors. She makes you fall in love with the characters so you're invested in the ride. Each harrowing moment had my heart pounding. It was hard to put it down. Can't wait for a sequel.
I am a fan of this author. That said I am not a fan of this book. The premise is a good one. The characters unique and interesting. But the story dragged for me. I received an advanced copy of this book from NetGalley and freely leave this honest review.
I love this book. Liv is not your simpering female and I am so glad. I can't wait to read more of Lilith Saintcrow's books, especially if there are more Soms of Ymre books.