Фантастичната четворка: Авторитарни действия

Върховна колекция графични романи Marvel #42

by Марк Уейд (сценарист), Хауърд Портър (художник), Майк Уеринго (художник)

Д-р Дуум е затворен в адски пъкъл, а Фантастичната четворка са решени да освободят тероризирания народ в някогашното му кралство - Латверия. Макар да отиват там с най-добри намерения, скоро си проличава, че не всички гледат на мисията им с добро око. Събитията довеждат до разкол, който ще завърши трагично за един от членовете на екипа.

Това издание събира между кориците си броеве №503-511 на Фантастичната четворка (1961 г.).

Genres: Comics, Marvel, Graphic Novels, Bande Dessinée, Comic Book

208 pages, Hardcover

Published April 19, 2022

Reviews

[Димитър Цолов · Rating 4 out of 5]

Този се оказа от по-обемните албуми в колекцията (събрал цели 9 броя), но леко дебилният сценарий определено успя да ми досади. По отношение на арта нямам забележки. Въпросният и изключително хитроумният финал вдигнаха оценката с една звезда.

[Martin Doychinov · Rating 4 out of 5]

Дебел том с добър сюжет и хубави рисунки. Изненадвщата среща с "Господ" беше добра хрумка. Все пак сценарият си изобилстваше от тъпотии, за което - 4 минус*

[Milan Konjevic · Rating 5 out of 5]

Potpuno genijalno. Marvelova prva porodica sreće tvorca sa velikim T, i bukvalno i figurativno. Premalo pričamo o Marku Vejdu kao o jednom od najvećih ikada američkog stripa, a trebalo bi.

[Atomread W. Megaforce · Rating 5 out of 5]

Hui der hat sich fix weggelesen.
FV hab ich seit den 90ern nicht mehr gelesen und fand die Filmreihe(n) eher lahm.
Aber nach dem Comic freu ich mich richtig auf den Film

[Антон Меляков · Rating 1 out of 5]

Още веднъж попадам на история, в която Марвел се упражняват над политиката в Източна Европа (друг е въпросът що са решили, че Унгария е Източна Европа). Тоя път са решили да вкарват и разни глупости за соц държавите очевидно, с всичките тъпи клишета. Наистина е тъпотия и ме дразни зверски. Затова и оценката е такава - една звезда твърдо.

Иначе историята е с плюсове и минуси - имаше добри идеи, но имаше и зверски тъпотии. Всичко беше супер прекалено, супер преувеличено и Рийд Ричардс изглеждаше като абсолютен скапаняк. Много е далеч това от представата ми за FF от детството ми и не съм особено във възторг.

Слаба работа.

[The Geek Reader · Rating 5 out of 5]

Es una muy buena continuación y sin darnos cuenta Reed supo superar sus demonios y un regalo que fue el cameo final, excelente historia.

[✦✧Ahinorа✧✦ · Rating 3 out of 5]

#42 Като цяло беше малко скучно, но краят беше много готин от художествена гледна точка😁

[Tehanu · Rating 2 out of 5]

2.5
I hate Reed Richards!! I just can't stand him!
I wish Sue would just leave him!
He has so much going for him and doesn't realize it!!

[MatiBracchitta · Rating 4 out of 5]

Esta no es la primera vez que leo este cómic, sino que ya debe ser la tercera o cuarta vez. Hasta ahora no me había dado cuenta de cuantos oportunismos mete Waid en su historia con el fin de que la acción avance.

Notoriamente, estos oportunismos, aunque me hayan llamado la atención, no perjudican al desarrollo de la trama que se mantiene fluida. Ciertamente me lleva a preguntarme ¿Johnny tiene el poder de teletransportarse a él y a otra gente? ¿Por qué el malo solo mata a tres soldados cuando tiene el poder para asesinar a todos? ¿Cómo robó tan fácilmente Reed tantos elementos super secretos sin ningún ayuda y sin que ningún otro héroe lo detenga?

En fin, como decía, son preguntas que si bien están ahí, uno puede perdonar por la premisa que Waid plantea: Si los 4F saben que paulatinamente Doom volverá ¿Cómo se lo puede detener de forma definitiva?

La respuesta más obvia sería asesinarlo. Pero claro que esto sería imposible para los 4F quienes parecen detentar la mayor brújula moral de entre todos los grupos de Marvel. Entonces la solución que plantea Reed es arrebatarle a Doom su reino, su fortuna y su gente.

Este pensamiento lógico está muy bien llevado. Me encanta que los personajes continúen luchando con secuelas de eventos de números atrás, y el trasfondo político que posee con referencias constantes a las intervenciones militares de EEUU me encantan.

Sin embargo, parece que Waid, al igual que le pasará posteriormente en Champions, tiene premisas muy interesantes, pero no sabe concluirlas: El deus ex machina del final, si bien tiene cierta poesía en sí misma, es horrendo.

Es el equivalente a la saga de One day more de Spiderman: Borremos por arte de magia las consecuencias tan nefastas que ha ocasionado el accionar de nuestros héroes. Que toda esta tridimensionalidad que los ha hecho tan interesantes se borre para volver a foja cero. Horrible.

Entiendo la dificultad de encontrar un buen final, pero esto ciertamente me pareció pésimo. El cómic no podía cerrar de peor forma. Me trajo reminiscencias al final de "Deadpool asesina al universo Marvel". Así de malo fue.

Este es un cómic que de no ser por el final, debería ser considerado de las mayores obras del supergrupo y de los íconos de lo que un cómic de superhéroes puede llegar a ser. Aunque Waid no les da mucho lugar a sus compañeros Howard Porter y Mike Wieringo, lo cierto es que los dibujos de ambos están a la altura, y es una lastima que la cobardía del final haya arruinado una obra tan buena.

[Iván Parra]

Una verdadera joya de historia. Socaba en el nucleo emocional de la primera familia de Marvel, contrastando sus valores, sus convicciones y cuestionando si el fin verdaderamente justifica los medios. Vemos a un Reed poderoso, inteligente, pero a ratos descontrolado, sumiendo al equipo en una crisis sin precedentes. Recomiendo evitar la tentación de mirar las páginas que vienen. Las últimas viñetas contienen una sorpresa inimaginable, que hace que esta historia sea única. Las ilustraciones un lujazo.

[Francisco Becerra · Rating 5 out of 5]

Simply put, the best F4 saga EVER. It delves into their conflicts as a group and shows very effectibly an obsessed, fragile Reed Richards, but also capable of surmounting anything for his family and friends. It also has a meditation on politics, and even an almost faery tale-like ending. And all sticks perfectly.

[Jonathan Eduardo · Rating 4 out of 5]

Continuación de "Impensado" en dónde el grupo liderado por Reed se embarca en una aventura que provocara una confrontación con los gobiernos del mundo. Después de los sucesos del último numero la familia quedo muy golpeada por lo que tendremos diferentes peleas y tensiones que debido a una trágica perdida desembocara en uno de los finales mas bonitos jamas narrados en los cómics. Muy bueno.

[Dimitris Patriarcheas · Rating 5 out of 5]

Υπέροχο, συνεχίζει την ιστορία ομαλά και κλιμακωνει την υπόθεση με πολλούς τρόπους θίγοντας πολιτικά, κοινωνικά, ηθικά και θρησκευτικά ζητήματα, ενώ παράλληλα ωριμάζει τους ήρωες, δίνοντας ένα αριστουργηματικο, θα έλεγε κανείς, τέλος. Πρέπει να το διαβάσετε!

[Henrique · Rating 4 out of 5]

Great book with an interesting story and artwork. An original storyline with small but compelling twists. The ending... was a bit odd.. maybe unnecessary. The book would be 5* if it had ended on a mora tragic note.
Definitely recommended specially for fans of this group of super heroes..

[Jimmy Rodríguez · Rating 4 out of 5]

4.5

[Vanesa · Rating 3 out of 5]

*3.5

[Andrew Nedelchev · Rating 3 out of 5]

Твърде повърхностен сюжет и не твърде гладко разказан. Три звезди, заради няколкото эагатнати етически и богословски казуси.

[Hristo Simeonov · Rating 4 out of 5]

Изключително показателен и реалистичен комикс...особено за днешната ситуация в света. Препоръчвам :)

[Kristina · Rating 5 out of 5]

Принципно не съм огромен фен на Фантастичната четворка, но тази тяхна история много ми хареса!

[Angelina Titeryakova · Rating 4 out of 5]

3.5

[Ivaelo Slavov · Rating 3 out of 5]

2.5 оценка.

Не ми беше интересна история, не ми допаднаха илюстрациите. Просто ок комикс, но нищо по-интересно.

[Isaac Batista · Rating 5 out of 5]

Roteiro: Mark Waid
Arte: Howard Porter e Mike Wieringo

• Quarteto Fantástico 503-511

Nota: 8,5/10

[Allan Heron · Rating 3 out of 5]

The hokey ending rather undid the good work of the set-up.

[Gulq · Rating 4 out of 5]

Dieses Abenteuer ist auf hohem erzählerischen und vernünftigem künstlerischen Niveau,am besten gemeinsam mit "Unfassbar" lesen !

[Aldo Verde · Rating 4 out of 5]

Quando andavo al liceo scrissi un racconto che finiva esattamente come questo fumetto.

[Javier Campos · Rating 4 out of 5]

wow nunca fui fan de los ff pero se. waid. me quito el sombrero

[Phillip Berrie · Rating 4 out of 5]

That's four stars as in not five stars, but damn close.

This is the second part of the story arc started in issue 30 of this collection of Marvel's greatest story. I gave the first part 3.5 stars because I didn't think the style of artwork suited the nature of the story. There is no such problem with this part of the story.

In this story we see Reed Richards going all out to once-and-for-all destroy the threat of Dr Doom, despite the fact that Doom has been dragged to Hell. This was a lovely twist on the standard comic book trope of the villains always coming back bigger and stronger and is almost worth the price of admission by itself. However, with a sovereign nation (a member of the UN even) and all Doom's technology up for grabs, things aren't as simple as you might think and Reed Richard's eventual solution to the threat of Doom himself is pretty drastic.

I've held off from giving this book 5 stars because of the ending. The FF have gone through many strange adventures to save one their own in the past and this book is no exception. I'm not sure I like the ending, but it is the sort of ending that only the Fantastic Four could get away with. I'll leave it up to you to decide what you think of it.

[Wayne Farmer · Rating 2 out of 5]

Well I should have known better than to continue the story from the previous volume! This one starts off bad and continues to be bad all the way through. Reed Richards is totally out of character for the main part of the story and comes across as a complete dick. The whole thing is one bad idea after another and especially the end of the story when it becomes metafiction with the fantastic four meeting the person drawing them and all the problems they have had are suddenly all made ok with the sweep of the artist's pencil - a little bit too Looney Tunes for my liking.

[Johnny Andrews · Rating 5 out of 5]

I had several of the issues previously in paperback volume, but this is it in it's entire story arc and it's one of the most grown up tales I have ever read. A normally subdued thinker Reed is all but driven to see everything that Doom had perish. Politics, war and family play the biggest roles in this drama and played well.

The last part of the story gets a bit..."What dreams may come" but it works rather well.

[Alejandro · Rating 3 out of 5]

En mi opinión, lo mejor es la primera mitad. Dado que no me gustan tanto los 4F, disfruté más la parte de la historia más "realista". Después siguió como todas sus historias... extremadamente delirante.
Lo disfruté igual, pero definitivamente no es de mis favoritos.