Clyde Hatchett, Glaton’s prodigal son, is finally home.
Sure, he’s got a whole new body and face, so nobody recognizes him. And technically, he’s not from Glaton – he’s really only spent a few months there. But they say home is wherever your love resides, and since Nadya lives in Glaton…wait, does Clyde actually love Nadya?
This is getting complicated.
That, on top of all the problems Clyde left behind, which haven’t gotten any less knotty while he was gone. The Senate is heating up, with numerous noble idiots vying for the throne. More gangs and more monsters than ever threaten the streets. And it seems everyone in Old Town wants to look to Clyde for direction, and Clyde isn’t sure what to do about any of it.
On a Throne of Lies is political intrigue, grotesque battles, spell-slinging, and a bit of smoochy smoochy to go along with all the
Pretty much a whole lot of pages filled with nothing. Things it had:
1 a lot of talk about food..usually eggs bacon and potatoes 2 same basic “sassy” dialogue that everyone in the book talks in except the kobolds. What the kobolds say is not even dialogue but just words as filler for a page 3 no resolved storylines from I don’t know how many books ago 4 everyone needing to talk in obscurity still after so many books. There are agendas, there are mysteries and things are happening that no one seems to know about in the book and certainly not the readers 5 a lot of lazy writing with the words “you know” 6 seems like the main character is much weaker than he has been in the previous books 7 nothing new magical or noteworthy
In summary this is a short book to begin with but pretty much the whole book could have been done in a lot less pages of a few chapters
I have been a loyal reader since the beginning but I have become really disappointed with the quality in last several books. I don’t bother getting the audible versions anymore as that would just be a complete waste of money. This series had started out so good but became progressively bad in last several books. Hopefully the future one if better
I’ve been reading these books since they began. I love them, I really do. I love Vuldranni. I love Clyde and Montana and Mister Paul. But I’m tired of mid-scene cliffhangers that don’t get resolved for years. I’m tired of antagonists who have, apparently, plot armor tougher than the heroes. I’m so very, very tired of people being so positive that such-and-such just could not happen when they live in a world literally full of magic no one understands and gods playing games that they will allow said world to race Hell-bent toward destruction rather than even consider the idea. (I already live in a world like that. I have no desire to read about an imaginary one.) Please. Stop. Scoop a tiny bit of crap out of the sack. Maybe readers that remain will not follow me.
I really like this series, but I hate it when an author feels the need to create a cliff-hanger ending. We are already committed (after all, it’s book #10). You don’t need to trick us into buying the next book. Or was it just too hard to come up with a reasonable ending before your publishing deadline? Don’t care. Just disappointed.
I like the Good Guys. For some reason, the Bad Guys has just been all over the place. I don't know/remember who the characters are, and I honestly don't care anymore.
It doesn't help that when I read the previous book, I realized I'd skipped the one before it and it didn't actually matter.
Vuldrani! So good to be back! I like how we got a lil heads up whenever previous characters turned up but didn't get a summary of the adventures we just returned from; nice balanced recap for what's relevant. So interesting seeing things play out from Clyde's perspective. From Montana's books I was under the impression that Clyde was wise and knew what he was doing but... he barely returned to Glatton and is just as unaware of all the scheming lol. He just happens to conveniently be in place to overhear relevant info
The Bad Guys series ..by Eric Ugland isn’t groundbreaking literature, nonetheless it’s highly entertaining, especially if you love gaming and LitRPG. It’s a fun and immersive escape. I listened to the series as audiobooks, and I really loved Neil Hellegers as the narrator (available on Storytel). If you are a visual thinker like me, you can really enjoy this one, because it is super in depth describing wise.
Book 10: On a Throne of Lies This installment felt a bit anticlimactic. Clyde has had some incredible adventures, but nothing here feels fully resolved. The political intrigue is starting to wear thin, and the series feels kind of endless now. Be prepared for the story to drag on a bit. Nonetheless, I again enjoyed the snarky dialogues and humor this series brings.
As an audiobook, the series is an amusing, easy background listen. However, I don’t think I would quite enjoy reading the series in print—11 books total would feel like too much for me. Thankfully, I could binge-listen and avoid the frustration of the cliffhangers!!
So the good guys and the bad guys officially overlap in this book, and we get to see what's going on in the previous book from a new perspective. It's a fun read, and things are coming to a head in the senate to choose a new emperor, so there's a lot to look forward to in the next book.
My only complaint, this book only covers a couple days, everything is happening RIGHT NOW, and feels a bit rushed. Having a few days of investigation/rest/practice thrown in the mix (not necessarily on stage, but just happening in the background) would make the whole feel more realistic and engaging for me.
Author really needs to start progressing the plot of these books. Did anything even really happen in this book? Seriously. Just about the only enjoyable part of this book are the occasions of "crossover" where Clyde observes Montana (no interaction mind you, just observing events already covered), but none of that progressed the plot at all. The rest is just filler, filler, filler, tiny bit of drama/mystery, then a cliffhanger ending, which is starting to seem like the pattern for these books. I see no satisfying or enjoyable continuation of these books, every new book (both bad guys and good guys) is just the main character spinning his wheels. Imagine writing LitRPG where the main character has little to no development ten books in (15 for the good guys) and the plot never progresses. What a scam.
I can't help feeling that this book could have been paired down to half the size. I love the snarky dialogue, both inner and outer, but the plot must move forward at more than a glacial pace.
On the plus side, it's good to glimpse one of the primary antagonistic forces. We discover that they are not only undermining Glaton in a metaphorical way but also in the literal sense.
There's not a lot of major plot development that I can recall. If the series continues down this path it'll become a skim-read before being dumped entirely.
I would hope that after ten books the protagonist would get smarter so they can rely less on plot armor - I mean 'luck' - to get them out of untenable situations. I would hope that a character can get smarter and less annoying after ten whole books. I would hope that a character would remember super important things like I don't know - signet rings and papers given to them by moderately powerful people.
This book sees these hopes continue to be dashed.
In Ugland's books, characters don't seem to have any real 'character development'. They do stuff but they are kind of like the Simpsons in that they never stray far from their base lines. While I have known people like that in real life, they are not typically people you want to spend ten f***ing books with.
Also, the author unfortunately speaks with the same 'voice' in the good guys series, the bad guys series and some other series that I can't remember because I dropped it as soon as I started saying "I cannot read another series that uses the same 'voice' (ie if you were to simply change the names of the characters it would seem to be the same guy but maybe with different abilities) as the other two."
That being said it was an OK book. I hope that either things begin to change, nay evolve as they go or the series comes to an end before it sinks into 'Gor book series' 'WTF am I reading now' territory.
Quality over quantity. First few books were interesting. Waiting almost a year to read a story that is less than 500 pages long is insane to me, especially when the author isn’t making any strides towards any goals they created for the MC in previous books. Instead we get our MC going back and forth around the land talking a lot about nothing with characters you do not care about or can’t remember. Again, it’s almost a year between these stories, so without any major events to cement the characters in my mind, it’s all just a confusing mess of pseudo-witty exposition that distracts from the actual point of the story. 10 books in and I still have no idea what the author is trying to do with this character or series. I read reviews for book 11 and don’t think I’ll read it or the next until this series is finished. But that’s not likely to happen unless the author figures out what the story is about first. Sorry, but this was a gut punch for me, I really liked the idea of this boon and would read them on release day.
Clyde Hatchet is finally back in the imperial capital after way too many books away trying to fix that little problem of the corpse king trying to take him over from the inside. And things have changed mightily since he left. A lot of this book is directed toward reminding the reader of the old cast he left behind. The rest is divided between Clyde trying to keep his girlfriend (and imperial candidate) Nadia from being assassinated and trying to figure out who is maneuvering to do what to destroy the empire.
We also get to see Clyde learning about Montana from The Good Guys series. He is actually secretly present for some key points in the other books and so learns a lot about the bad guys in the other story. But mostly, it’s Clyde being Clyde. He tries to think his way out of problems rather than muscle his way through them, but in the final analysis, he always puts up a good fight.
I’ve read every book in both the Bad Guys and Good Guys series, and have enjoyed them. However, this one is so sloppily written and edited, it feels a lot like readers are being taken for granted, like they just don’t care about producing quality work. The book is riddled with typos, incoherent sentences, misspellings, grammatical errors, it’s awful. A high school student could have edited this better. I know this isn’t high literature so it’s not like I expect Hemingway, but the thought and care that went into producing this book is nonexistent. I will think twice before reading any more from Mr. Ugland absent an explanation and apology for taking us for granted.
What a disrespectful cliff hanger. I should've known from the title.
Clyde spends a lot of time going in circles in his head. It was kind of exhausting, especially since he repeatedly bumbled into avoidable dangerous situations because he was so distracted. NGL, the relationship with Nadia is feeling pretty forced and I'm over it. They could just be friends and he could still go through these lengths to look out for her. Clyde already established himself as that kind of guy. Overall, pacing could've been better. There was a lot of set up but not one situation seemed to be fully resolved. It wasn't as noticable when I could just binge the series but as a standalone it leaves a lot to be desired. Might not pick the series back up until it's done.
This is definitely a fun series, but does Ugland have any plans for drawing it to a close? Since this all takes place and, in this volume, interacts with the Good Guys series, that makes for 24 volumes in this world so far with no end in sight for either series. This is not a mystery series where each volume stands on its own and so the law of diminishing returns will come into play. Though it has come close to crossing that line at a couple points (especially in the Good Guys), that is continues to draw me in is a real accomplishment. Still, how many people will want to read a new book if you need to read two dozen volumes beforehand?
I highly enjoy the intertwine of Montana's and Clyde's stories with a hefty number of chapters in this book overlapping with "Flex in the City" (#13 Good Guys Series). Among others, both the colosseum fight and the senate machinations are presented from Clyde's point of view (usually hidden or from a rooftop). It's great entertainment.
Even so, this series should've been about adventure, and the other about politics. Yet, apparently since the last entry in both series, the tables have turned, and I feel like I'm rooting more and more for the "good" guy and his story :))
In general, it is what one would expect from a LitRPG story - many side quests :) it comes with a lot of stalled setup, not much happens right until the end, but in a way I get the sense it was necessary. I mean, it was ok for the characters to take a break and simply float in the city of Glaton without much action. it is a bit frustrating as one needs the action - it is fun, but I understand. Besides, the dialogue is good, the narrator's performance is always great (this is based on the Audible version), so I enjoyed the book. As a bonus, the scenes we have seen through the eyes of Montana are all the more richer, now that we saw them through the eyes of Clyde.
I realized embarrassingly late that this was part of a series. Book nr. 10 in fact. But in my defense fantasy books are always super unclear in the beginning and I never understand anything anyways AND I listened to this on Storytel and apparently they don’t always write that books are parts of series, which is… why? I just saw the beautiful cover and started listening to it. I have about 50 min left on the audiobook but I just can’t get into it again. I really liked the writing and the dialogues between the characters, it was so light and realistic and …whimsy. If. You catch. My drift.
It’s what makes this worth reading. Clyde doesn’t have the basic knowledge everyone assumes. So conversations end up complicated as they have to explain things they think are obvious. Or they are trying to talk around a sensitive subject and failing because Clyde doesn’t have any idea what they are talking about.
Add in kobolds with their broken speech patterns and questionable grasp on ‘normal’ and it becomes quite amusing.
It was pretty solid addition to the series and the first story in a while that did not feel like a side quest.
If there’s one complaint it’s just that most of these stories sometimes feel like they lose the plot or that the actual goal is a little convoluted. For instance not quite sure what the primary conflict is for this book. Like there’s a ton of little things but nothing that feels definitive.
Upside, it was awesome how he played the time lines between this book and the Good Guys.
3.5 stars. It loses all the extra from still being rife with overdone recursive snark, but at least there was some story here.
I unfollowed the author as the books were getting terrible, but they keep recommending them to me so I cracked this time. I think I skipped (at least) an entire book in this series in disgust, but it turns out I didn't miss anything of note. Brutal cliffhanger ending should drop this down to a 3 since it looks like sometime next year for the next book, but I'm feeling merciful. We'll see if I regret it.
Well written, but missing some game world components
Eric does a great job weaving bad guys with a hint of good guys, keeping the story riveting, and even adding a little romance. I really enjoyed getting back to Clyde’s story after a long break, and reading about his homecoming.
While there were aspects of the game world worked in, the story felt like it was missing levels and skills advancement. Like an RPG player running around the city talking with NPCs but not performing any main quests, Clyde seemed to be pretty stagnant in progressing this round.
Excellent entry in this series, with one exception (see end).
The characters are written with Ugland's usual snarky humor. The plot intersects with that in the Good Guys series, to the benefit of both; it's definitely good to see the series return to Glaton and the main plot progress.
That said, the ending was really annoying, stopping right in the middle of an action scene.
I really enjoyed this book, and it would have gotten 5 stars but for the cliffhanger ending. The book is recommended, but only if you already have book 11.
Once again, 5 Stars for Neil Hellegers.. Really enjoyed this book now that we are back in Glaton. Eric Ugland's humor is so much better here as it's not banter for the sake of inane banter, but placed with much more discretion and purpose. It worked much better for me. My biggest gripe with this book is the ending. C'mon man. A cliffhanger? Thankfully these books publish quickly. I need to know what happens to our friendly neighborhood spider clyde.
I've been away from the series for a while and it's a challenge keeping track of all these characters. I finally got that crossover with The Good Guys, only it turns out that I'm like 4 books behind in the other series. Also, despite finding Clyde and Montana to be essentially the same character, I strongly prefer Clyde and The Bad Guys.
This volume was just as frantic as usual. More of the same and another cliffhanger.
The good guys and the bad guys. Two great series. This is an amazing entry. Clyde is back with a vengeance diving straight into the politics of the capital on behalf of those he cares about.
My one complaint is that it's so long between books but continuing to love this series. Also the gargoyle sidekick can do no wrong.
You stopped! Right in the middle! Now I have to wait! But wait I will. This was a fantastic installment in the series, and a welcome break from the so-so stories I've read lately. While I regret the delay between books in the series, I'll be here when it drops, and voraciously consume it in a day as well.
While still a great story it has the normal editing issues that these books are known for. Also a bit of a cliffhanger ending and I absolutely hate those. Now I have to wait until the next book in this series comes out. Honestly was going to do that anyway. The cliffhanger wasn't needed to get me to stick around.
One of my favorite things about Eric’s books (can I call you Eric? I feel like I’ve read enough of your words to be on a first name basis) is the witty banter.
Mr. And Mrs The Fayden are impeccable Boris is amazing Nadya and Clyde have a definite rapport; and poor put-upon Valamir is a delight.
It was a definite fun ride hanging out with Clyde (see what I did there?). Lots of development and at the same time very little. But that’s okay because there was plenty of areas that needed expansion. It was also fun to see the flip side of events from The Good Guys. Will be at least a year before we find out what happens to Clyde next but I’m looking forward to it.