Amazone
Postmodernist vagueries and mostly trivial observations
If reading postmodernist types of things turns you on, you'll like this book. The author talks a lot about how computers have moved from "modernist calculation" to "postmodernist simulation."
Why there is a need to attach the modernist-postmodernist modifiers to calculation and simulation is never explained, and I suspect it is just done to give the book a tres chic intellectual veneer.
As with nearly all authors who use the term, the author does not define "postmodernism" or explain what it has to do with anything in her book.
Also a lot of vague talk about how "people didn't used to like to do" such and so a thing with computers but now "people like to do" such and so something other thing with computers a lot more.
No data of course, that would offend the postmodernists reading the book.
An important - VERY important - topic treated in a shabby manner.
Buckeye
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The continuation of a fallacy
Turkle's book is a good read, but can not be taken as authoritative. She seems to have fallen into the same trap as most of the online researchers do.
Turkle expresses her findings as though they come from a similar group of online people. The Internet is filled with various groups and ideologies.
Cross-cultural comparison is fine, but considering everyone online as the starting point for an argument is just asking for disaster. It is because of this that Sherry and many others like her have written books that are good for a read but useless academically.
dag
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and one weirdly odd glowing review
[and a lot of identity bullshit]
High Quality - A Suggested Read
This book is a serious look at the concept of identity and how identity is shaped on the Internet and through computer mediation.
Her major topic is how humans contain self on the Internet. She also spends a great deal of time discussing relationships on the Internet.
With splintered selves involved, relationships become more complex. Her research on the way women and men view online sexuality is fascinating. Anyone interested in how the young people of the very near future will discover their sexual selves would do well to read this book.
While Turkle is fairly straightforward in her findings, they may terrify some readers. This is a completely new sexuality, a completely foreign way of doing things.
Her view is, of course, fairly clinical, but, in the end, I think she shows an amazing affinity with the people she has worked with. Turkle is not worried about the splintering of self.
On the contrary, she thinks that some of these tactics: being able to play with and discover parts of yourself that you normally don't interact with is vital to development and mental health.
Another area that Turkle tackles is Artificial Intelligence. She considers AI to be the next frontier. These AI will be interacted with as a matter of course in the coming years, according to the author.
Again, this area enthralls some readers and frightens others.
Turkle is excited about what AI can do in terms of promoting dialog.
Turkle sees the Internet challenging notions of what it means to be alive, notions of true identity, and the idea of community.
Turkle is at her best when she explores the concept of how people view themselves online.
How they splinter off bits of their personality into different entities and play with and shape those identities.
I can heartily suggest this book for anyone that works with K-12 students, for it is these students that are growing up on the screen.
These are the students that are discovering community outside their immediate circle at younger and younger ages.
These are the students that are discovering the meaning of identity online.
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one more for the weirdo basket
[it's all about morphing man... like a power ranger identification of the self]
[and the Zero of the Signified]
Constructing Identity in the Culture of Simulation
The author presents in her book many thoughtful and provocating ways computers are being used.
Starting out with computer games as places for teenagers to hide out to scientists trying to create artificial life to children "morphing" through a series of virtual personae.
On the Internet, confrontations with technology collides with ones sense of human identity.
Ms. Turkle takes the reader into the text-based games where over ten thousand players can create a character or several characters specifying genders or any other physical and psychological attributes.
This book presents stories of how artificial intelligence (AI) is being re-visited.
Models are being designed to attempt to simulate brain processes.
Furthermore, she presents her idea that AI is borrowed freely from the languages of biology and parenting, with examples such as the high school English teacher and basketball coach who tried using small connected programs to help him figure out what team to field.
But readers may also find interesting is her discussion on the multi-users-domains (MUDs). The information the author has gathered from her research is very informative and yet somewhat disturbing.
She presents insight on how and why individuals seek to take on new or different personas on line. Her findings point out the problems people face in life and then escape to the Internet as a release.
One of the passages from her book readers might find to be very provocative.
She says "Women and men tell me that the rooms and mazes on MUDs are safer than city streets, virtual sex is safer than sex anywhere, MUD friendships are more intense than real ones, and when things don't work out you can always leave!
After reading her book, a reader should have a better understanding on why so many take to the MUDs in order to escape the pressures and the problems that the real world presents.
One can only assume that these individuals would rather indulge in these activities than solve their problems.
In summary, Ms Turkle has described "the computer as a tool, as a mirror and as a gateway to a world through a looking glass of a screen.
In each of these domains we are experiencing a complex interweaving of modern and postmodern, calculation and simulation".
Frank W. Cornell
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Remember!
Because I identify with Montgomery Burns on the Simpsons, I'm looking into the black mirror of the self, and the experience is a wonderfully complex interweaving of modern calculation, postmodern simulation, modern simulation and postmodern calculation. And as i told my nurse Agent 86, "And loving it!"
Max from CONTROL