遥远的救世主

by 豆豆著

加微信（soweinc) 分享最新前沿的知识好书,好友低至3-9折.书名:遥远的救世主作者:豆豆著出版社:作家出版社出版时间:2008年04月 ISBN 书号:9787506331746简介: 遥远的救世主

Genres: Fiction, China, Novels, Philosophy

Paperback

First published May 1, 2005

Reviews

[Charlie · Rating 3 out of 5]

如今再看这传说中的神书也没那么神。有一些能让人思考的内容，强者思维，弱者思维，自己是自己的救世主等等。但很多侧写上还是展现亚洲父权制下对女性的不公态度与偏见。

[Tianxiao · Rating 2 out of 5]

假期无聊的时候刷b站看到这部电视剧突然火了，印象中很久前读过原著小说，从一堆旧书中翻出来快速翻阅了一遍，很多细节没有再仔细读，但大概也找回了一部分记忆的内容。
毕竟是小说，很多观点是禁不住时间的考验的。
当然值得一说的是，很多事情，在2005年那个时间点，是可以拿出来说的，而不是直接禁止。

[Barack Liu · Rating 5 out of 5]

492-The Savior in the distance-Doudou-Novel-2005

Barack
2023/11/26

"The Distant Savior" was first published in 2005. The novel tells the unforgettable love story between the male protagonist Ding Yuanying and the female protagonist Rui Xiaodan. Their love is not the love of enjoying selfish desires, but the love of compassion for the world. Their love contains the love of music, cultural thoughts, social outlook, and national love, which reflects the transcendence and legend of their love character. The novel not only shows readers an extraordinary and outstanding love character and realm of life but also interprets the characters' behavioral logic and values from the perspective of cultural attributes, which adds another layer of culture and value to the novel text. The depth of society and the deep thinking about human nature and morality. In 2007, the TV series "The Way of Heaven" adapted from "The Distant Messiah" was released.

Doudou, Li Xue, was born in 1970. High School Diploma. When the author was seventeen, he met a good friend, Li Hongying, through work (this person's outlook on life, values, personality, moral character, and way of thinking all had an important influence on the author). In 1990, Li settled in Europe. Since then, Li has continued to send Doudou a large number of reference materials. Every time he returned to China, he told the author some social life that was unfamiliar to him. The author started writing the novel "Betrayal" in June 1995 and completed it in August 1997. The book "Betrayal" was serialized in the magazine "Woodpecker" in issues 1-4 in 2000. In 2000, the author was an ordinary worker with a husband who could stay together forever.

Table of Contents
1. Chapter 1
2. Chapter 2
3. Chapter 3
4. Chapter 44
5. Chapter 45
6. Chapter 46

The protagonists of this novel are not ordinary people. A hotel costing RMB 1,000 a night, a BMW car costing RMB 1 million, and an investment threshold of RMB 30 million. Not to mention that the background of the story was set in the 1990s. Even today, such a consumption level is beyond the reach of most ordinary people. The book is called "The Distant Savior" and the TV series based on it is called "The Way of Heaven". But what exactly is "the way of heaven"? Does it symbolize "Heaven and earth are ruthless, treating all things as stupid dogs"? In this world, only those with wisdom, capital, and background can dominate everything. The lucky ones who "learned literature and martial arts and sold them to the emperor's family" can get a share of the pie, while the other 90% of people are just like careless people, becoming donors. Is this kind of life really meaningful? Those who have no worries about food and clothing naturally have the leisure to sit and discuss the truth, but for ordinary people, these profound, difficult-to-understand, and wonderful topics are too far away. How can ordinary people who are busy making a living have the energy to discuss these profound issues?

Jin Yong wrote, "When we first met at Fenglingdu, we missed Yang Guo for life." Nalan Rongruo wrote, "If life is just like the first time we met, why would the autumn wind be sad to paint a fan." Du Qiuniang wrote, "There are flowers that can be broken and they must be broken, but don't wait until there are no flowers and break branches." Every word expresses the passage of time. regret. As the years went by, I found my enthusiasm for serious literature waning. Especially when reading novels, the regrets and regrets of the protagonists weighed heavily on me. When I was a child, I firmly believed that articles should be used to convey profound thoughts. But now, I prefer to use words to create a utopia, a refuge. Rui Xiaodan's choice represents respect for his profession, while Ding Yuanying's silence represents respect for Rui Xiaodan. Ten years ago, I believed these principles were paramount, above all else. But now, I think there are some people who deserve the abandonment of our principles. Principles are valuable precisely because we follow them in most situations. And it is precisely because we are willing to give up our principles for a specific person that this kind of love is rare. The more novels I read, the more uneasy I felt. I can understand an author creating a specific ending for the sake of depth or artistry, but I refuse to accept it. If I were the author, I would rather choose a happy ending, even if it is considered vulgar. I once saw my friend D, while playing the game "The Sims", imprisoning the villain so that the villain eventually starved to death. I insisted on asking D to release the villain. Even though it was a virtual world, I couldn't accept a tragic ending.

Why are Rui Xiaodan's feelings for Ding Yuanying so sudden, violent, and deep? As a male reader, I found it difficult to understand this emotional development. The author is a woman, and she must have a deeper insight into female psychology than I do. Since the author believed that this emotional development was reasonable when writing, there must be a reason that I currently do not understand. Another question I have is about Rui Xiaodan's so-called "complete a program and follow a process." What is this "process"? Is it a confession? But why did she choose such an extreme way to express her emotions? After seeing Rui Xiaodan's actions, Ding Yuanying finally defeated her instinct and chose to leave out of respect for her. Although this departure is respectful, will it cause great damage to a girl's self-esteem? My third puzzle is, when did Ding Yuanying's feelings for Rui Xiaodan begin? Did it already sprout when we went to the Hongmen Banquet? If so, where does his love come from?

When Rui Xiaodan narrowly escaped death during a mission, he immediately called Ding Yuanying and expressed his longing for him unabashedly. This was also the first time that Ding Yuanying took the initiative to respond to the feelings between the two. He asked where Rui Xiaodan was now. This reminds me of the ending in Norwegian Wood. Watanabe called Midoriko, eager to see her. Midoriko was silent for a moment and asked where Watanabe was now. Relationships require both parties to work together. If only one party is always giving, it does not actually constitute true love, but only one-sided secret love. Ding Yuanying finally let go of some of her own persistence, faced her own feelings, and responded to Wei Xiaodan's emotions. Tang Xianzu wrote, "I don't know where love comes from. It goes deeper and deeper. The living can die, and the dead can live." The emotional entanglement is difficult to understand. All these entanglements, and the events that trigger them, may not be that important. What matters is how the two behaved while experiencing these events. This is the decisive factor affecting their relationship.

There is a saying, "What I fear most is meeting the girl I want to protect for the rest of my life at an age when I am incapable." Rui Xiaodan hopes that Ding Yuanying can create a myth for her in Wangmiao Village. Ding Yuanying is not only willing to do this for Rui Xiaodan but also has the ability to realize this wish. Guo Xiang fell in love with the famous Condor Hero Yang Guo. There is a description of Guo Xiang's thoughts in "The Legend of the Condor Heroes": "It's a pity that I was born twenty years late. If my mother had given birth to me and given birth to a sister, I would have learned Master's Dragon Elephant Prajna Kung Fu and Supreme Yoga Tantra. She lived outside the Quanzhen Taoist temple and called herself the Great Dragon Girl. Little Yang Guo was bullied by his master in the Quanzhen sect and fled to my house. I took him in and taught him martial arts. He gradually became better with me. When he met Little Dragon Girl again, the most he could do was hold her hand, give her three golden needles, and say: "Little sister, you are very cute, and I really like you in my heart. But my heart already belongs to Big Dragon Girl. Please." No wonder! If you need anything, bring me a golden needle and I will do it for you. " However, the Yang Guo that Guo Xiang loves is probably a great hero who can easily fulfill her three wishes. If the first time she met Yang Guo, she saw that down-and-out young man with no place to live, would she still fall in love with Yang Guo? If Ding Yuanying didn't have the knowledge, talent, and energy that he possesses, would Rui Xiaodan still fall in love with him? Love is indeed beautiful, but if you are not strong enough, how can you deserve beautiful love? If a young man meets a girl who is willing to join hands with him for the rest of his life when he is still immature, he must cherish it.

[Lingling · Rating 5 out of 5]

《遥远的救世主》提到了文化属性，强势文化遵循事物发展规律，弱势文化等着救主。这个观点很有意思。让我想起了 里的另一种观点（地理环境决定了各大陆人类发展进程）其中提到为何欧洲人发现了新大陆而不是中国人？中国一直到明朝都是领先的，但由于中国是个统一政权，局部政治斗争的后果影响深远（郑和下西洋后中国停止了对外探索），反之欧洲政权分散，哥伦布一个意大利人先效忠法国公爵然后是葡萄牙国王，后来又换成西班牙皇后，最终才得以发现新大陆。中国的统一政权和欧洲各民族国家的分散政权源于其地理特征，中国的统一开始有利于文明传播发展但后来却阻碍了发展（局部倒车等于整体倒车）。
另一种观点是制度决定了国家的兴盛衰落。《Why Nations Fail》提到体制（institution)是否包容型的，还是压榨型的会影响发展的可持续。另外很关键的一点对私有财产的保护。没有这一点就没有发展的动力。

《天道》故事很精彩。背景音乐有点烦。演员演得都很不错，很好看。佛教，基督教的讨论听起来很有道理虽然似懂非懂🤭金句很多，最喜欢这句“这就是圆融世故，不显山不露水，各得其所。可品性这东西，今天缺个角、明天裂道缝，也就离塌陷不远了。”谢谢推荐。

有钱人就是任性，哈哈。背景音乐有点烦。演员演得都很不错。虽说稍有故弄玄虚/剧情太扯之嫌，不过还是很好看的，哈哈。佛教，基督教的讨论听起来很有道理虽然没懂多少，哈哈。企业管理公司运作啥的太复杂，国内吃个饭都那么讲究实在是心累。金句很多。先把男主神化，然后夸女主比自己高几个境界。其实不至于，女主的德国居留不过是因为生在了好的家庭，跟她自己没啥关系，只能说命好。去德国学法律也很奇怪，因为每个国家的法律不同，在德国学了回中国用不太实际。
看完觉得要争取做个明白人，而不是聪明人。

关于天国，想起来但丁的《神曲》里地狱和炼狱写得最好，因为有人间作为参考🤭
天堂相比就逊色不少，全凭想象。
“女人是形式逻辑的典范，是辩证逻辑的障碍，我无意摧残女人，也不想被女人摧残。”
“透视社会依次有三个层面：技术、制度和文化。小到一个人，大到一个国家一个民族，任何一种命运归根到底都是那种文化属性的产物。强势文化造就强者，弱势文化造就弱者，这是规律，也可以理解为天道，不以人的意志为转移。”
“进了窄门，神立刻就会告诉你：我是不存在的，神就是你自己。但是，证到如此也并不究竟，神是什么？神即道，道法自然，如来。”
“你不知道你，所以你是你，如果你知道了你，你就不是你了。”
“这就是圆融世故，不显山不露水，各得其所。可品性这东西，今天缺个角、明天裂道缝，也就离塌陷不远了。”

[Deepbreathe · Rating 5 out of 5]

结尾比中段跟令我吃惊，看完后我极其少见的后悔——早已知道这本书，为什么才看呢？以两人爱情起灭为主，穿插着公司的产生与危机，男女主都有着极强的感染力，足够自信也足够地气，自觉难以企及。作为一本出版于2005年的小说，女主的刻画非常自信且美丽令人印象深刻，虽然我也确实佩服里面人的大手笔开支，但20年后书中观念依旧不落下风。坦率地将，看完小说后，我确实很期待王志文的演绎。
故事性★★★★：女追男的戏码虽然见的不少，但是这打着哑谜又接地气的爱情确实令人眼前一亮，相较音响公司的建立与度过危机到没那么引人注目，虽然也很精彩。
文学性：★★；一般，回想里没有特别印象深刻的描写。
思想性：★★★★★；基督、佛光是这两大教的评述，就令我反复思考，更不论对于为人、社会的种种感想了，这个层面上目前我个人似乎没见到第二本能在这个层面做得如此极端的小说了。
情绪共鸣：★★★★；女主的自杀令我非常震惊和难受，我非常欣赏二人感情的发展。

[Henri · Rating 5 out of 5]

4.5/5.0 ⭐️
文学有文化属性，也有时代属性。
本书诞生于改革开放的江胡时期，作者把要表达的东西，通过一个很好的故事传递出来，给足了金句；人物及其个性的雕刻稍有不足。如果是在作者成书的时候读这本书，我应该读不懂。不同的人、不同的年龄、不同的背景、不同的时代，从书中吸收到的东西千差万别。
有些人物的结局处理不够自然。小丹这个角色，豆豆赋予的天国的女儿，是需要死，但书中的死法，一是看不出其已经悟道或以身殉道（道法自然，如来），二是其行为完全是没有组织性纪律性和一名刑警的职业素养，表达的是个人英雄主义和要充当救世主的思想（以一敌四的枪战/自己能救赎的只能是自己）。
看了《天道》的头几集，王志文和丁元英，左小青和芮小丹，形象差别太大。

在本书诞生的时代，鲜有作家出其右，给5分。

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为什么穷？穷就穷在幼稚的思维，穷在期望救主、期望救恩的文化上。
文学、影视是扒拉灵魂的艺术，如果文学、影视的创作能破解更高思维空间的文化密码，那么它的功效就是启迪人的觉悟、震撼人的灵魂。 （而今大众灵魂已经被封禁在了那间铁屋子里）
文明对于不能以人字来界定的人无能为力。
神不想做无名救主，神需要报恩。
神即道，道法自然，如来。
如果真理是人做出来的，那也不叫真理了，叫主义。
五千年的文化积淀足以让你拍着胸脯说：我们有文化。但是，五千年的文化积淀却不能让你挺着胸脯回答：我们有什么文化？
两次世界大战不过打了十年，而在本世纪巴以冲突就打了50年，什么样的民族能承受这样的苦难？可上帝和真主都没能拯救他们，世界上再没有什么地方能像这里让人明白这个真理真相。 (2024注：岂止打了50年)
我给你两个建议，一是你不以求职应聘为生，要学位意义不大，应该什么有用学什么，不影响创作、经营，学个十年八年的，就为有个学习环境。
法律对于滋生法律的文化土壤无能为力，对于越过法律潜入文化土壤地带从事更大损害、更大掠夺的行为无能为力。

[Icyfarrell · Rating 2 out of 5]

放弃……这个故事太装了，当年出版的时候看可能还行，现在看就觉得好装模作样。芮小丹，大概是女主吧，这个人物写得太膈应人了，内心清高觉得自己很了不起别人不理解是别人庸俗没境界。追求音乐了，所以工作不当回事停职无所谓。去别人家安排别人的事不问正主自己就拿了主意，是肖亚文为了保持联系请她帮忙租房子，不是丁元英看上她了请她租房子，摆出一副你别来套近乎的姿态，没人想来套近乎好吗？终于想起来道歉了，摆桌酒席请人来挤兑他，你是道歉还是结仇？要强和没教养还是有区别的好吗？陪客都打脸了，闺蜜又开始刁难，原因是看出她爱上人家了所以把把关？她爱上别人别人就要被刁难？我一点都不为你俩闺蜜情感动，我只觉得你们都有病。要是丁元英不理她我还看下去，结果看这意思丁元英对她也有意思？不是，丁元英一副隐世大贤的样儿，结果是个受虐狂？

[Jerry · Rating 5 out of 5]

强势文化和弱势文化！
尊严和礼貌
五台山对话
芮小丹与囚犯的对话
等等

这是我第一遍读这本书！但是由于我之前已经读了很长时间圣经，所以我已经认定上帝存在这个事实；同时，对于佛教及佛法，我总觉得过于消极避世，不如基督教的入世，人人可以信仰上帝，佛法对于人的悟性要求太高，同时在于成佛，修行证果，普度众生；基督教人人为自己行为负责，换句话说，我们自己可以拯救自己，前提是生活在主的恩典中，进入天堂，免遭地狱；

文化也好，律法也好，这些都是从人出来的，那么难免瑕疵！
来自上帝的恩典，才是我们生活的正途，才是道！

[Elaine Wang · Rating 5 out of 5]

My best of the year.

[Jiushan · Rating 4 out of 5]

interesting

[Jingyuan Ren · Rating 3 out of 5]

豆瓣或者Goodreads的评分都好高。下面是我从自己已注销的豆瓣账号搬运过来的内容：
过誉了过誉了。比起商战部分，更喜欢论道和对文化属性的讨论部分，而这些所谓“道”在我看来也不过是一些常识。人物对于男性和女性的谈论不少是让我感到不适的。

[Dana · Rating 5 out of 5]

通过一个“扶贫/劫富济贫”的故事去揭露中国文化中弱势文化的根--依赖强者的道德期望破格获取的文化，救世主的文化。天道却是不以人意志为转移的客观规律。故事里的人物各自依据自己对世界的理解（文化属性）对事物的有了好恶和选择，也因此收获了各自的果。
看过电视剧再读书，电视剧已经把书八成的内容展示出来，但书中的文字更加精准也更便于思考。

[晓慧 · Rating 3 out of 5]

穿插在中间很多斗嘴的话儿。但是总体就像国庆的烟花，没来得及看，远远的看着窗外很远的绚烂，热闹是他们的。
女主的性格极端，这种人的生存策略应该是早点解决/学会自保，前者和事业追求矛盾冲突，所以还是学会自保最重要。

[Allen He · Rating 4 out of 5]

虽然本书有17年有余的历史了，但现在看起来里面的道理还是那么的相关。里面能看到很多。

1. 文化属性对人的塑造是根深蒂固的，谁都不能成为你的救世主，你的思维方式，你的德行，决定了你的成就。

2.杀富济贫一定是一条血腥的道路，不要指望通往富裕的道路是一条康庄大道。

3.在任何商战中，如果不触碰到法律的底线，是很难赚到钱的，而触碰了又容易过界，尺度的拿捏往往可以看出一个人的层次。

[Sky · Rating 4 out of 5]

Providence is a historic problem whenever or wherever. ……

[SanHeng1shu · Rating 3 out of 5]

读得时候一直以为是男作者，没想到女作家。部分描述实在厌女。

放在十几年前可能不错，现在看有点不太够。

不喜欢用：“独立自主女性们爱上/臣服于某男”来神话男主的设计。

[Ren · Rating 5 out of 5]

读时屏气敛息，心跳加速。
读后回味无穷，深省，很受启发。
好书！

[Lily Li · Rating 5 out of 5]

从读书时第一次开始读，这应该是第七八遍了。。用现在的眼光看，有过时的观点，比如对女性的轻视，文笔也是一直欣赏不来，感觉所有人都用同样的叙事语言在说话，共用一套用词并不普遍的字典。但是里头的哲理思辨，却是时看时新。终于有了自己的kindle，用这本开封～

[Frank · Rating 5 out of 5]

看完电视剧再看书，看到了被删减的部分。只有自己悟到才算自己的。 https://book.douban.com/subject/1322455/

[Wenjing Fan]

补标，大学时代看的电视剧和读的书