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ヴィンランド・サガ [Vinland Saga] #3
Vinland Saga, Tome 3
Août 1013, suite au massacre des camps Vikings de Northumbrie, l'armée Danoise se fait de plus en plus violente en Angleterre. D'expédition en expédition, l'armée dirigée par Floki, rejointe par celle d'Askeladd, arrive enfin à Londres. Mais après des décennies d'attaques, Londres est plus que parée contre les attaques de Vikings. Pour l'armée Danoise, le combat s'annonce d'autant plus rude que Torkell, le frère cadet du général des Jomsvikings Sigvald, lassé de combattre des Anglais trop faibles, a décidé de changer de camp pour s'amuser un peu. Face à cet imprévu de taille, Askeladd a, comme toujours, une idée de génie : envoyer Thorfinn prendre la tête de Torkell en échange d'une promesse de duel.
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First published October 23, 2006
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July 6, 2022
تا به اینجا یکسری جابهجایی روایی با انیمه داشته که احساسات متناقضی راجع بهشون دارم، نمیدونم بگم انیمه روایت بهتری داره یا مانگا تا به اینجا.
ولی داستان کامینگ آو ایج کاملاً خوبی بوده تا اینجا، آرت و طراحی در سطح بالا و چشمنوازی قرار داره.
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ولی داستان کامینگ آو ایج کاملاً خوبی بوده تا اینجا، آرت و طراحی در سطح بالا و چشمنوازی قرار داره.
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February 2, 2023
Honestly, the introduction of Thorkell the Tall was enough to make this such a fun volume. What a crazy lunatic he seemed! And there's clearly more to him than what he was able to share.
The artwork, especially when the action kicks in, is awesome! So is the gore. ;)
The artwork, especially when the action kicks in, is awesome! So is the gore. ;)
July 24, 2025
"The sun rises on the twilight of man."
January 31, 2025
Le cose iniziano a farsi interessanti e credo che finalmente la trama stia ingranando in una direzione che mi invoglia a proseguire nella lettura.
April 11, 2021
4'5 / 5
Aviso: esta reseña contiene spoilers de los tomos 1 y 2 de Vinland Saga, que ya han sido reseñados en nuestra cuenta.
Thorfinn, hijo de Thors, sigue con su objetivo de vengar el asesinato de su padre a manos del guerrero vikingo Askeladd. Sin embargo, será apresado por éste y obligado a enrolarse en su barco. Pero aún le quedará una esperanza. Según el código vikingo, Thorfinn tendrá derecho de retar a Askeladd a duelo si cumple una serie de difíciles tareas, como sabotear o matar a generales enemigos, lo que lo les llevará a involucrarse incluso en la guerra por la corona de Inglaterra.
En este tomo vuelve la acción y conocemos más la relación actual de Thorfinn y Askeladd. Ésta resulta muy interesante y a la par que conflictiva, pues resulta curioso como el código de honor vikingo hace que Aslkeladd deje vivir a Thorfinn durante tantos años a pesar de saber que quiere su cabeza. Por su parte, Thorfinn es testarudo y posee una convicción inquebrantable que le ha hecho pasar muchos años alejado de su familia, todo por restaurar el honor perdido con la muerte de Thors.
En este tomo conocemos al fin a un "villano" curioso y risueño que me ha gustado mucho. Destaca por encima del resto de personajes por su gran tamaño y fuerza, siendo bastante similar a Thors en este aspecto. Sin embargo, sus motivaciones son totalmente diferentes, siendo movido por el dinero y por la búsqueda de buenas batallas, pariéndose más al "ideal" de vikingo que todos tenemos interiorizado.
También vislumbramos la trama política e histórica de la época. Este contexto ayuda a comprender más las relaciones entre los personajes y sus costumbres, además de que siempre me ha parecido muy interesante el poder conocer un poco más sobre el antiguo mundo nórdico y las distintas batallas ocurridas en toda la zona de Reino Unido. Veremos cuán importante es este contexto en futuros tomos.
Vinland Saga es un manga con un dibujo increíble, lleno de detalle y capaz de mostrar la crudeza de la batalla. Además de la historia de Thorfinn, con este manga nos adentramos en la historia de los pueblos nórdicos, interesantes y olvidados. Una lección de historia a través de cruentas batallas que nos adentra en un fascinante mundo que no me canso de recorrer.
Irbis.
Aviso: esta reseña contiene spoilers de los tomos 1 y 2 de Vinland Saga, que ya han sido reseñados en nuestra cuenta.
Thorfinn, hijo de Thors, sigue con su objetivo de vengar el asesinato de su padre a manos del guerrero vikingo Askeladd. Sin embargo, será apresado por éste y obligado a enrolarse en su barco. Pero aún le quedará una esperanza. Según el código vikingo, Thorfinn tendrá derecho de retar a Askeladd a duelo si cumple una serie de difíciles tareas, como sabotear o matar a generales enemigos, lo que lo les llevará a involucrarse incluso en la guerra por la corona de Inglaterra.
En este tomo vuelve la acción y conocemos más la relación actual de Thorfinn y Askeladd. Ésta resulta muy interesante y a la par que conflictiva, pues resulta curioso como el código de honor vikingo hace que Aslkeladd deje vivir a Thorfinn durante tantos años a pesar de saber que quiere su cabeza. Por su parte, Thorfinn es testarudo y posee una convicción inquebrantable que le ha hecho pasar muchos años alejado de su familia, todo por restaurar el honor perdido con la muerte de Thors.
En este tomo conocemos al fin a un "villano" curioso y risueño que me ha gustado mucho. Destaca por encima del resto de personajes por su gran tamaño y fuerza, siendo bastante similar a Thors en este aspecto. Sin embargo, sus motivaciones son totalmente diferentes, siendo movido por el dinero y por la búsqueda de buenas batallas, pariéndose más al "ideal" de vikingo que todos tenemos interiorizado.
También vislumbramos la trama política e histórica de la época. Este contexto ayuda a comprender más las relaciones entre los personajes y sus costumbres, además de que siempre me ha parecido muy interesante el poder conocer un poco más sobre el antiguo mundo nórdico y las distintas batallas ocurridas en toda la zona de Reino Unido. Veremos cuán importante es este contexto en futuros tomos.
Vinland Saga es un manga con un dibujo increíble, lleno de detalle y capaz de mostrar la crudeza de la batalla. Además de la historia de Thorfinn, con este manga nos adentramos en la historia de los pueblos nórdicos, interesantes y olvidados. Una lección de historia a través de cruentas batallas que nos adentra en un fascinante mundo que no me canso de recorrer.
Irbis.
June 29, 2023
Як завжди: криваво, напружено і захопливо!
October 30, 2021
All I can say is wow. The artwork, story and characters are all amazing. I've got to say, Thorkell the Tall has to be one of the more memorable characters I've had the the pleasure reading, in recent memory. All in all, just an awesome read from start to finish.
June 28, 2022
*4.5 stars*
The battle scenes in this volume were a little hard to take. If you can't take gore in your manga, stay away from this series! It's the goriest one I have read.
We're introduced to a new baddie: Thorkell. He's a massive man who loves to fight and gets mad whenever his enemies run away from him. He's such a zany character! I love all the interactions between Thorkell and Thorfinn.
I almost always love the bonus story at the end even more than the main one! No exception here. Bring out more Ylva!
The battle scenes in this volume were a little hard to take. If you can't take gore in your manga, stay away from this series! It's the goriest one I have read.
We're introduced to a new baddie: Thorkell. He's a massive man who loves to fight and gets mad whenever his enemies run away from him. He's such a zany character! I love all the interactions between Thorkell and Thorfinn.
I almost always love the bonus story at the end even more than the main one! No exception here. Bring out more Ylva!
July 9, 2019
A bit theatrical but does not sugar coats it's characters.
World: The art is fantastic, the level of detail in the art direction and background is a testament to the quality of the art. The world building is also really strong with a lot of research and world building done through the art. There is little to no info dumping but the depth is still there. We get some more history this time around and it's a welcome.
Story: The story moves fast and with great writing. The pacing is spot on and the emotions and interactions are as long as they need to be to mean something. Tying the history and the fiction together is good and having Thorfinn as the point of view is good. I love how the book does not sugar coat him at all or sanitize the world of the time. Raping and reaving are the norm and the book does not go out of it's way to make it seem nice and cool. The pieces that move the story are interesting with the war in England and the figures that push the story.
Characters: Thorfinn is well realized. He's a but dense in terms of the honor which is very Japanese manga but the way he reacts to thieving and the violence and raping is very accurate for its time and I commend the book for sticking to this accuracy. The rest of the cast are also interesting and while some are a hit over the top the emotions and the depth is there.
Continues the solid start.
Onward to the next book!
World: The art is fantastic, the level of detail in the art direction and background is a testament to the quality of the art. The world building is also really strong with a lot of research and world building done through the art. There is little to no info dumping but the depth is still there. We get some more history this time around and it's a welcome.
Story: The story moves fast and with great writing. The pacing is spot on and the emotions and interactions are as long as they need to be to mean something. Tying the history and the fiction together is good and having Thorfinn as the point of view is good. I love how the book does not sugar coat him at all or sanitize the world of the time. Raping and reaving are the norm and the book does not go out of it's way to make it seem nice and cool. The pieces that move the story are interesting with the war in England and the figures that push the story.
Characters: Thorfinn is well realized. He's a but dense in terms of the honor which is very Japanese manga but the way he reacts to thieving and the violence and raping is very accurate for its time and I commend the book for sticking to this accuracy. The rest of the cast are also interesting and while some are a hit over the top the emotions and the depth is there.
Continues the solid start.
Onward to the next book!
September 23, 2023
Bizdeki baskısına bayılmama durumum var. İlk cildi de ben biraz hırpaladım. Devam edip etmemek sallantıdaydı haliyle ama üçüncü cildi de aldım. Bakalım nereye kadar gideceğiz.
Bu güzel bir manga serisi. İlk ciltten sonra merakla biraz animeye göz atmıştım. Hala oradan bildiğim bölümlerden olmasına rağmen keyif ve ilgiyle okunuyor. Prens Canute ve Thorkell’in ortaya çıktığı bu bölüm de işlerin ilerlediği aksiyonlu, savaşlı güzel bir bölüm. İşlediği tema Vikingler olduğundan bazı bazı sevimli manga klişelerine/çizimlerine sahip olsa da sert bir konusu, işleyişi ve yerine göre o nisbette sert çizimleri olduğu unutulmamalı.
Bu güzel bir manga serisi. İlk ciltten sonra merakla biraz animeye göz atmıştım. Hala oradan bildiğim bölümlerden olmasına rağmen keyif ve ilgiyle okunuyor. Prens Canute ve Thorkell’in ortaya çıktığı bu bölüm de işlerin ilerlediği aksiyonlu, savaşlı güzel bir bölüm. İşlediği tema Vikingler olduğundan bazı bazı sevimli manga klişelerine/çizimlerine sahip olsa da sert bir konusu, işleyişi ve yerine göre o nisbette sert çizimleri olduğu unutulmamalı.
October 24, 2023
Serideki okuması belki de en eğlenceli karakterler olan Thorkell bu cilt ile hikayeye dahil oldu. Bu serinin çizimlerine her bir ciltte tekrar hayranlık duyuyorum. Gerek dövüşlerde gerek de çevre çizim çizimlerindeki detay seviyesi inanılmaz. Ortaya konan emeği hayal edemiyorum. Hikaye yine tonlar arasında geçiş yapıyor. Kimi zaman çok sert kimi zaman biraz muzip.
December 26, 2024
This is probably going to be a very unpopular opinion but I feel like it still needs to be expressed.
I have had the same issue with this book as with the first two, which is the blend of different genre not working well together. But now, you really have to add casual sexism to it all.
This book still seeks to set the story in a context/environment which is historically accurate, it shares cultural information and facts in an attempt to be educational, and yet at the same time, we've got fantasy (Thorkell displaying superhuman strength and getting rid of Thorfinn as if he were throwing a shot put… Really?) and humour, and those three elements undermine each other.
Regarding the mix of fantasy and historical accuracy, I would say it "only" disserves the educational/accuracy purpose and by extension - for me - the interest you have for the story.
The real problem, however, lies with the use of humour. A lot of the protagonists so far have regularly appeared silly and goofy, along with secondary characters/extras drawn in the background to set the mood. Which could definitely work if you wanted a comic manga with "Viking vibes", which is not the case here. It could even probably work – being both goofy and educational and dark and whatever else you want (Ricky Gervais, anyone?) – if executed masterfully. But I guess this is where the problem really lies.
So, for a manga which still seeks to be historically accurate and dark and rich, we are left with a very superficial work of fiction. Superficial and problematic.
And there we arrive at the scene that made me decide to write this review. On exactly pages 138-139 (French edition), you stumble upon a rape scene. I say “stumble” and should almost add "breeze by" because it literally lasts a "forgettable" double page, leaving you with the feeling that nothing worthy of attention actually happened.
Before anyone thinks that I stormed here to leave an offended/angry comment, this truly made me pause and reflect, and I did some research as to how people felt about the scene and why. Turns out, all the comments I could find praised the scene and style (I would love to have statistics about Vinland Saga’s readers: gender, age, etc. It feels like they were all young men/boys, hence how relevant this all is). Their arguments? Vikings did commit rape back in the good ol' days so this type of scene only adds to the realistic dimension of the manga. Also, they committed it very regularly whereas here, the book does not linger on it, it is done very casually so honestly, what could anyone have to complain about? Right. Well, exactly that, actually.
Of course, the Vikings did display extreme violence and they were familiar with bloodshed, stealing, rape and other atrocities. So of course, you should expect it in historical fiction whether in books or on screen. And I am of the opinion that it should be depicted. What you see and read that impacts you always fosters conversation, which is welcome, and choosing not to show it would be lying and reductive. Which, in the end, Vinland Saga really is.: reductive. I have found multiple reviews praising/mentioning Vinland Saga as being strongly feminist. I am only 3 books down so far, but we all know that the first books of a saga set the tone, and so far, it could not be any less feminist than it is.
The only female characters we have encountered so far are either desexualized because they are presented as children or mother figures who only show empathy and physical weakness, or hyper-sexualized and products of the male gaze (appearing naked, with big breasts, ideally virgins…). The only exception is Ylva, and what a very feminist figure she is, indeed! She is so cliché it is laughable: she is your typical tomboy – although she is obviously very beautiful by our patriarchal society’s standards – does not fit any feminine norms, physically (she is super strong, obviously!) or otherwise because she enjoys fishing whales and curses and wishes she could own slaves to get help with everyday chores. Wow.
But that was not enough, no. Because then, you stumble upon this rape scene. If you blink, you miss it. If you read too quickly or “casually���, you miss it. A random young woman, gets gang banged in a barn where our protagonist is sleeping. It wakes him up (Oops, poor him!) and he just “casually” leaves after witnessing the scene, without any word. Apparently, it shows his lack of empathy because of what he was a victim of in his childhood. Right… Well, there were plenty of other ways to show that. It was even ok to use this scene to show it. Just. Not. Like. This. Because what is the effect here?
Casual sexism.
First, the argument that Vikings committed rape is not enough. Sure, they did. But reducing them to violence and rape (mixed with them having supernatural physical abilities and goofing around) is uneducated, (disrespectful) and harmful. Secondly, the way you showcase anything on screen or on paper says a lot about your way of thinking and about what your objectives are. You can – and should – address rape in the media. Once again, Ricky Gervais addressed this topic masterfully – along with the notion of humour and whether we can truly laugh about anything – in his show "Humanity". It all comes down to how it is treated. Here, it lasts a second. It is not dealt with in any way. It does not appeal to any emotion or reflection (on the contrary, don’t think, it’s completely normal!). The characters are depicted and speak in a very juvenile way, along with the ones in the next scene when the audience’s view extends to the “party” outside the barn. You feel like you are witnessing male teenagers, laughing dumbly, and while the rape is happening in the background, they are speaking “casually” with their mate(s). This is the problem. This is contributing to the normalization and trivialization of rape. This is not much, I agree (quite literally when you consider the quantity of paper and ink involved!), but that is the point, actually. This is what contributes, on a daily basis, to rape culture. Because it is pervasive. Slowly but surely, along with all of the other instances that we encounter in everyday life and the media, it contributes to desensitize us.
So, arguments are used, like “But that’s how it was in the past”. No, it wasn’t. “But that is the character(s) speaking”. Yes, but the way the characters are depicted and made to interact with others and the way themes are explored in the work of fiction are a product of the writer/director.
Ultimately, my problem with Vinland Saga is with what it is attempting – and failing – to be because of its tone and the way it deals with…everything in its story.
A lot of characters were potentially interesting but reduced to a mix of clichés and comic relief characteristics. The storyline is so slow you lose interest. And the time period, which is so culturally rich, is reduced to what the author has chosen to show us, which is even far less than what the Wikipedia page about “Vikings” offers us.
Not only is it failing on all these basic aspects, but it is contributing to casual sexism, and it does so while almost priding itself to do the opposite. Let’s be clear, there has been NOTHING feminist so far in Vinland Saga and saying otherwise is either hypocritical or naïve, and deeply harmful.
I have had the same issue with this book as with the first two, which is the blend of different genre not working well together. But now, you really have to add casual sexism to it all.
This book still seeks to set the story in a context/environment which is historically accurate, it shares cultural information and facts in an attempt to be educational, and yet at the same time, we've got fantasy (Thorkell displaying superhuman strength and getting rid of Thorfinn as if he were throwing a shot put… Really?) and humour, and those three elements undermine each other.
Regarding the mix of fantasy and historical accuracy, I would say it "only" disserves the educational/accuracy purpose and by extension - for me - the interest you have for the story.
The real problem, however, lies with the use of humour. A lot of the protagonists so far have regularly appeared silly and goofy, along with secondary characters/extras drawn in the background to set the mood. Which could definitely work if you wanted a comic manga with "Viking vibes", which is not the case here. It could even probably work – being both goofy and educational and dark and whatever else you want (Ricky Gervais, anyone?) – if executed masterfully. But I guess this is where the problem really lies.
So, for a manga which still seeks to be historically accurate and dark and rich, we are left with a very superficial work of fiction. Superficial and problematic.
And there we arrive at the scene that made me decide to write this review. On exactly pages 138-139 (French edition), you stumble upon a rape scene. I say “stumble” and should almost add "breeze by" because it literally lasts a "forgettable" double page, leaving you with the feeling that nothing worthy of attention actually happened.
Before anyone thinks that I stormed here to leave an offended/angry comment, this truly made me pause and reflect, and I did some research as to how people felt about the scene and why. Turns out, all the comments I could find praised the scene and style (I would love to have statistics about Vinland Saga’s readers: gender, age, etc. It feels like they were all young men/boys, hence how relevant this all is). Their arguments? Vikings did commit rape back in the good ol' days so this type of scene only adds to the realistic dimension of the manga. Also, they committed it very regularly whereas here, the book does not linger on it, it is done very casually so honestly, what could anyone have to complain about? Right. Well, exactly that, actually.
Of course, the Vikings did display extreme violence and they were familiar with bloodshed, stealing, rape and other atrocities. So of course, you should expect it in historical fiction whether in books or on screen. And I am of the opinion that it should be depicted. What you see and read that impacts you always fosters conversation, which is welcome, and choosing not to show it would be lying and reductive. Which, in the end, Vinland Saga really is.: reductive. I have found multiple reviews praising/mentioning Vinland Saga as being strongly feminist. I am only 3 books down so far, but we all know that the first books of a saga set the tone, and so far, it could not be any less feminist than it is.
The only female characters we have encountered so far are either desexualized because they are presented as children or mother figures who only show empathy and physical weakness, or hyper-sexualized and products of the male gaze (appearing naked, with big breasts, ideally virgins…). The only exception is Ylva, and what a very feminist figure she is, indeed! She is so cliché it is laughable: she is your typical tomboy – although she is obviously very beautiful by our patriarchal society’s standards – does not fit any feminine norms, physically (she is super strong, obviously!) or otherwise because she enjoys fishing whales and curses and wishes she could own slaves to get help with everyday chores. Wow.
But that was not enough, no. Because then, you stumble upon this rape scene. If you blink, you miss it. If you read too quickly or “casually���, you miss it. A random young woman, gets gang banged in a barn where our protagonist is sleeping. It wakes him up (Oops, poor him!) and he just “casually” leaves after witnessing the scene, without any word. Apparently, it shows his lack of empathy because of what he was a victim of in his childhood. Right… Well, there were plenty of other ways to show that. It was even ok to use this scene to show it. Just. Not. Like. This. Because what is the effect here?
Casual sexism.
First, the argument that Vikings committed rape is not enough. Sure, they did. But reducing them to violence and rape (mixed with them having supernatural physical abilities and goofing around) is uneducated, (disrespectful) and harmful. Secondly, the way you showcase anything on screen or on paper says a lot about your way of thinking and about what your objectives are. You can – and should – address rape in the media. Once again, Ricky Gervais addressed this topic masterfully – along with the notion of humour and whether we can truly laugh about anything – in his show "Humanity". It all comes down to how it is treated. Here, it lasts a second. It is not dealt with in any way. It does not appeal to any emotion or reflection (on the contrary, don’t think, it’s completely normal!). The characters are depicted and speak in a very juvenile way, along with the ones in the next scene when the audience’s view extends to the “party” outside the barn. You feel like you are witnessing male teenagers, laughing dumbly, and while the rape is happening in the background, they are speaking “casually” with their mate(s). This is the problem. This is contributing to the normalization and trivialization of rape. This is not much, I agree (quite literally when you consider the quantity of paper and ink involved!), but that is the point, actually. This is what contributes, on a daily basis, to rape culture. Because it is pervasive. Slowly but surely, along with all of the other instances that we encounter in everyday life and the media, it contributes to desensitize us.
So, arguments are used, like “But that’s how it was in the past”. No, it wasn’t. “But that is the character(s) speaking”. Yes, but the way the characters are depicted and made to interact with others and the way themes are explored in the work of fiction are a product of the writer/director.
Ultimately, my problem with Vinland Saga is with what it is attempting – and failing – to be because of its tone and the way it deals with…everything in its story.
A lot of characters were potentially interesting but reduced to a mix of clichés and comic relief characteristics. The storyline is so slow you lose interest. And the time period, which is so culturally rich, is reduced to what the author has chosen to show us, which is even far less than what the Wikipedia page about “Vikings” offers us.
Not only is it failing on all these basic aspects, but it is contributing to casual sexism, and it does so while almost priding itself to do the opposite. Let’s be clear, there has been NOTHING feminist so far in Vinland Saga and saying otherwise is either hypocritical or naïve, and deeply harmful.
April 17, 2025
Знаєте те класне відчуття, коли нарешті повертаєшся до хорошої історії, яку давно відклав. Саме це я відчував, коли нарешті взяв до рук третій том «Саги про Вінланд» Макото Юкімури. Занурення у світ вікінгів, у цей крижаний вир насильства, честі та втрат — вимагає настрою. І от коли настрій з’явився, то хай йому грець, як же я вдячний собі за це рішення.
Третій том занурює нас у ще глибші, похмурі води світу Торфінна. Аскеладд — майстер тактики і людина, яка давно мала б померти, — все ще на плаву, хоч ситуація виходить у нього з-під контролю. Під час загарбницьких нальотів територією Англії, вони натрапляють на воїна Торкеля, чий розмах меча рівноцінний його любові до доброго бою. Він перейшов на біг ворога, бо йому стало нудно перебувати на стороні сильніших. А здолати його не так вже й легко.
Історія не дає перепочинку. Кожна ситуація або загострює конфлікт, або показує внутрішній злам персонажів. Юкімура балансує між екшеном і роздумами, минулим і теперішнім. Його історія — не просто про битви, а про те, чим є помста, і що лишається після неї. Найсильніший момент тому для мене — епічний двобій між Торфінном і Торкелем. Цей бій — не лише демонстрація фізичної сили, а ще й діалог через зброю, чим додає емоційної ваги.
Торфінн — уже не хлопчина, що плакав над тілом батька. Його обличчя — маска гніву. Він живе для того, щоб убити вбивцю свого батька. Аскеллад — складний антагоніст: безжальний, але харизматичний, із власним кодексом честі. Торкель — ураган, який змітає все на шляху, але його божевільна енергія — це саме те, що здивувало в цьому томі. І нарешті, Канут. Його трансформація тільки починається, але вже видно, що він не такий безпорадний, як здається.
Малюнок Юкімура, як завжди красивий і ефектний. Кожен кадр — живий, насичений деталями. Вирази обличь, композиція кадрів, одяг, увага до заднього плану — усе працює на повну.
Цей том — жорстокий, глибокий і водночас напрочуд людяний. Він зачіпає тему помсти, влади, честі, без сумніву, роблячи «Сагу про Вінланд» однією з кращих історичних манґ, які друкуються українською. Сюжет захоплює, герої живі, малюнок красивий, жорстокі вікінгі, криваві бійки. Що вам ще потрібно, щоб розпочати читати цю манґу?
Третій том занурює нас у ще глибші, похмурі води світу Торфінна. Аскеладд — майстер тактики і людина, яка давно мала б померти, — все ще на плаву, хоч ситуація виходить у нього з-під контролю. Під час загарбницьких нальотів територією Англії, вони натрапляють на воїна Торкеля, чий розмах меча рівноцінний його любові до доброго бою. Він перейшов на біг ворога, бо йому стало нудно перебувати на стороні сильніших. А здолати його не так вже й легко.
Історія не дає перепочинку. Кожна ситуація або загострює конфлікт, або показує внутрішній злам персонажів. Юкімура балансує між екшеном і роздумами, минулим і теперішнім. Його історія — не просто про битви, а про те, чим є помста, і що лишається після неї. Найсильніший момент тому для мене — епічний двобій між Торфінном і Торкелем. Цей бій — не лише демонстрація фізичної сили, а ще й діалог через зброю, чим додає емоційної ваги.
Торфінн — уже не хлопчина, що плакав над тілом батька. Його обличчя — маска гніву. Він живе для того, щоб убити вбивцю свого батька. Аскеллад — складний антагоніст: безжальний, але харизматичний, із власним кодексом честі. Торкель — ураган, який змітає все на шляху, але його божевільна енергія — це саме те, що здивувало в цьому томі. І нарешті, Канут. Його трансформація тільки починається, але вже видно, що він не такий безпорадний, як здається.
Малюнок Юкімура, як завжди красивий і ефектний. Кожен кадр — живий, насичений деталями. Вирази обличь, композиція кадрів, одяг, увага до заднього плану — усе працює на повну.
Цей том — жорстокий, глибокий і водночас напрочуд людяний. Він зачіпає тему помсти, влади, честі, без сумніву, роблячи «Сагу про Вінланд» однією з кращих історичних манґ, які друкуються українською. Сюжет захоплює, герої живі, малюнок красивий, жорстокі вікінгі, криваві бійки. Що вам ще потрібно, щоб розпочати читати цю манґу?
February 13, 2021
Si salta velocemente al 1013, la guerra dei danesi per il regno d'Inghilterra oramai va avanti da 10 anni buoni. Thorfinn è cresciuto e diventato abile nell'uso dei coltelli, è sempre al seguito di Askeladd e sempre in cerca dell'occasione per guadagnarsi un duello e vendicare il padre. Durante l'assedio di Londra si scontra con Thorkell, un vichingo passato al soldo degli inglesi che è anche il fratello minore di Sigvald, il capo dei Joms. Pertanto è il prozio di Thorfinn, con cui ha un primo feroce scontro durante il quale perde un paio di falangi della mano destra. Ma la storia prosegue, re Sweyn si ritira a nord a svernare e lascia il figlio Cnut, un giovane ragazzo dall'aria femminea a capo dell'assedio.
Thorkell lo farà prigioniero, Askeladd lo libererà nei pressi di Middlesborough, sulla costa del Somerset di fronte ai regni gallesi e al mar d'Irlanda.
Prosegue molto bene la storia, sempre ottimamente disegnata. Solo troppo enfatici i duelli tra i protagonisti, nel pieno stile dei manga nipponici ma con qualche libertà di troppo rispetto alla storia.
Thorkell lo farà prigioniero, Askeladd lo libererà nei pressi di Middlesborough, sulla costa del Somerset di fronte ai regni gallesi e al mar d'Irlanda.
Prosegue molto bene la storia, sempre ottimamente disegnata. Solo troppo enfatici i duelli tra i protagonisti, nel pieno stile dei manga nipponici ma con qualche libertà di troppo rispetto alla storia.
September 4, 2019
Thornkell basically is itching to kill and I’m seriously worried about thornfinn. All i hope that that lady (who stole a ring and all her family plus village got slaughtered) is fine since i still worry about her. So the prince is either a girl.. cuz he cooks better than me and his hair all pulled back in a ponytail is soooo cuuuuute!!!!! Askelland actually wanted to kill ganar (the prince right-hand man) since he was defending the prince all along and he knew that this will make the prince ‘man-up’.
Askelland is known for his quick strategic thinking and in this volume i learned that he keeps his valuable cards close, he actually knows his next move before he makes it.. that is what i admire about him.
Let me just shed light on that page where thornkell tries to battle this man (one of askelland men) and he gives him a sword but then the guy just blacks out.
All in all, another exciting volume. I am in love with this manga.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
November 7, 2023
Zuallererst möchte ich mich für das Rezensionsexemplar bedanken, welches mir von CarlsenManga bereitgestellt wurde. Dieser Fakt beeinflusst aber in keiner Weise meine persönliche Meinung zu diesem Buch. Der Post enthält Werbung und die Rechte liegen bei Carlsen.
Natürlich ist dies nur meine persönliche Meinung und nur weil ich diesem Buch diese Bewertung zukommen lassen, heißt es nicht, dass es auf jeden anderen zutrifft.
Ich glaube, dass History Mangas nicht wirlich was für mich sind aber ich werde dieses Genre natürlich nicht komplett abschreiben. Ich glaube, dass sich hier noch eine fantastische große Story entwickeln könnte. Diese wird bereits auch angedeutet und der Verlauf des Plots war auch interessant aber ich habe persönlich einfach gemerkt, dass ich froh war, als ich das Buch beendet habe. Ich glaube, dass ich mal den Anime weiterschauen werde und wenn es mich dann doch noch packt, kann ich die Geschichte ja wieder aufnehmen.
Fazit
Ich glaube, dass History Mangas nicht wirklich was für mich sind.
Natürlich ist dies nur meine persönliche Meinung und nur weil ich diesem Buch diese Bewertung zukommen lassen, heißt es nicht, dass es auf jeden anderen zutrifft.
Ich glaube, dass History Mangas nicht wirlich was für mich sind aber ich werde dieses Genre natürlich nicht komplett abschreiben. Ich glaube, dass sich hier noch eine fantastische große Story entwickeln könnte. Diese wird bereits auch angedeutet und der Verlauf des Plots war auch interessant aber ich habe persönlich einfach gemerkt, dass ich froh war, als ich das Buch beendet habe. Ich glaube, dass ich mal den Anime weiterschauen werde und wenn es mich dann doch noch packt, kann ich die Geschichte ja wieder aufnehmen.
Fazit
Ich glaube, dass History Mangas nicht wirklich was für mich sind.
November 10, 2022
De momento, no me entusiasma, pero tampoco le puedo sacar muchas pegas. De hecho, ladrillo a ladrillo va ganando madurez y profundidad en los personajes.
Destaca la cuidada y documentada ambientación histórica –más allá de las licencias que se toma a favor de la narración– y un dibujo rico en detalles y espectacular en las escenas de acción.
Y uno de sus personajes, Askeladd, ahora mismo, después del tercer tomo, es un diamante en bruto.
Destaca la cuidada y documentada ambientación histórica –más allá de las licencias que se toma a favor de la narración– y un dibujo rico en detalles y espectacular en las escenas de acción.
Y uno de sus personajes, Askeladd, ahora mismo, después del tercer tomo, es un diamante en bruto.
December 28, 2018
Me encanta cómo Thorfinn se define en el primer capítulo del tomo, con sus lealtades claras y un mínimo gesto de humanidad para los civiles sajones, sin implicarse en exceso. Además, más piñazos pasados de vueltas (duelo en el asedio de Londres) y nuevos personajes.
August 3, 2019
4.5 Stars
May 7, 2025
جلد سه هم جالب بود و مشتاق خوندن ادامه اش هستم، همچنان.
November 6, 2022
З кожним томом дана манґа мені подобається все більше. Хоч зображення вікінгів гіпертрофовано(що напевно через те, що в манґі так прийнято), вони здаються досить правдивими, безтурботні, безстрашні, жорстокі, дуже цікаво за ними спостерігати але симпатії звичайно не викликають.
December 9, 2025
Empiezo a ver que el manga es más oscuro que el anime
June 27, 2023
Тут тобі і історія, і битви, і побут, і вірування - все разом супер вибухова суміш 🔥
July 29, 2018
Ce troisième tome continue sur un rythme trépidant avec un scénario toujours aussi solide. Les personnages sont bien développés, le background historique est bien documenté. Pour l'instant cette série de l'auteur du déjà fabuleux Planètes est un pur régal dans le marché du manga.
June 21, 2025
حماسه پل لندن
اولین دیدار تورفین و تورکل
طراحی عالی مانگا
انیمه هم که اصلا عالی
اولین دیدار تورفین و تورکل
طراحی عالی مانگا
انیمه هم که اصلا عالی
September 21, 2019
Non ho ancora fatto nessun commento alla saga ma alla fine di questo volume mi sono venute in mente un paio di cose che mi sento di condividere.
Vorrei soffermarmi in particola modo sui sogni di Thorfinn. Non è la prima volta che Thorfinn sogna suo padre. Già nel primo volume aveva fatto un sogno in cui suo padre gli chiedeva se "volesse la rivincita" (dopo esser stato battuto in duello da Askeladd), e che questo sia un bel "problema" e Throfinn dovrà capire da solo cosa significhi davvero essere un guerriero.
Nel sogno fatto in questo volume, le parole di suo padre sono ancora più esplicite, e invita Thorfinn a rinunciare alla vendetta.
Ora, essendo questi dei sogni, vengono direttamente dalla psiche di Thorfinn. Quindi è chiaro che Thorfinn sappia già a livello inconscio che la strada che ha deciso di intraprendere non sia quella corretta e/o quella che il padre avrebbe voluto per lui.
Sinceramente, più il tempo passa più mi convinco che Thorfinn non sia mosso dal desiderio di vendetta, quando più da un desiderio di rivalsa e di voler dimostrare di essere migliore. Sta semplicemente seguendo la via del guerriero per come la intende lui e che, noi lettori lo sappiamo, non collima con l'idea che aveva suo padre di cosa significa essere un guerriero.
Non è necessariamente una cosa sbagliata. Ma, anzi, trovo interessante cercare di capire i ragionamenti fatti da Thorfinn. Ho trovato molto curioso il commento che ha fatto dopo lo scontro con Throkell in cui si capisce che lui, personalmente, non trova affatto divertente combattere. La cosa è degna di nota perchè se ci trovassimo in un qualunque altro manga, adesso staremmo assistendo alla discesa del protagonista "nell'oscurità". Ma non è quello che sta succedendo a Thorfinn!
Vorrei soffermarmi in particola modo sui sogni di Thorfinn. Non è la prima volta che Thorfinn sogna suo padre. Già nel primo volume aveva fatto un sogno in cui suo padre gli chiedeva se "volesse la rivincita" (dopo esser stato battuto in duello da Askeladd), e che questo sia un bel "problema" e Throfinn dovrà capire da solo cosa significhi davvero essere un guerriero.
Nel sogno fatto in questo volume, le parole di suo padre sono ancora più esplicite, e invita Thorfinn a rinunciare alla vendetta.
Ora, essendo questi dei sogni, vengono direttamente dalla psiche di Thorfinn. Quindi è chiaro che Thorfinn sappia già a livello inconscio che la strada che ha deciso di intraprendere non sia quella corretta e/o quella che il padre avrebbe voluto per lui.
Sinceramente, più il tempo passa più mi convinco che Thorfinn non sia mosso dal desiderio di vendetta, quando più da un desiderio di rivalsa e di voler dimostrare di essere migliore. Sta semplicemente seguendo la via del guerriero per come la intende lui e che, noi lettori lo sappiamo, non collima con l'idea che aveva suo padre di cosa significa essere un guerriero.
Non è necessariamente una cosa sbagliata. Ma, anzi, trovo interessante cercare di capire i ragionamenti fatti da Thorfinn. Ho trovato molto curioso il commento che ha fatto dopo lo scontro con Throkell in cui si capisce che lui, personalmente, non trova affatto divertente combattere. La cosa è degna di nota perchè se ci trovassimo in un qualunque altro manga, adesso staremmo assistendo alla discesa del protagonista "nell'oscurità". Ma non è quello che sta succedendo a Thorfinn!
October 28, 2025
Retour au présent en 1008. Les Vikings accentuent leur conquête de l'Angleterre et attaquent plus profondément au Sud et dans les terres. Thorfinn, toujours dans la compagnie d'Askeladd, fait souvent office d'éclaireur afin d'ouvrir la route à Askeladd et ses hommes. Le Roi d'Angleterre finit par s'exiler dans le Royaume franc.
En 1013, le roi du Danemark Sven arrive en Angleterre pour superviser la conquête de Londres. Les armées vikings ont beaucoup avancé en cinq ans. Toutefois, un guerrier norrois, Thorkell, s'est rangé du côté des Anglais, plus par plaisir du combat que par conviction militaire, puisqu'il considère que les Vikings remportent leurs victoires trop facilement. Askeladd envoie Thorfinn le combattre. Ce dernier finit dans un sale état tout en lui coupant deux doigts. Les vikings se replient.
Le roi Sven, peu satisfait de cet état de fait, envoie son fils Knut avec quatre mille hommes autour de Londres et le reste des guerriers continue de conquérir l'Angleterre. Toutefois, Knut ne semble pas fait pour diriger des hommes et encore moins se battre. Ils finissent par se faire capturer, lui et cinq cents hommes par Thorskell. Askeladd, averti par un messager (qu'il finit par tuer pour éviter qu'il ébruite la nouvelle), le prévient et il envoie ses hommes en s'attendant à recevoir une grande récompense pour avoir sauvé le fils du Roi.
En 1013, le roi du Danemark Sven arrive en Angleterre pour superviser la conquête de Londres. Les armées vikings ont beaucoup avancé en cinq ans. Toutefois, un guerrier norrois, Thorkell, s'est rangé du côté des Anglais, plus par plaisir du combat que par conviction militaire, puisqu'il considère que les Vikings remportent leurs victoires trop facilement. Askeladd envoie Thorfinn le combattre. Ce dernier finit dans un sale état tout en lui coupant deux doigts. Les vikings se replient.
Le roi Sven, peu satisfait de cet état de fait, envoie son fils Knut avec quatre mille hommes autour de Londres et le reste des guerriers continue de conquérir l'Angleterre. Toutefois, Knut ne semble pas fait pour diriger des hommes et encore moins se battre. Ils finissent par se faire capturer, lui et cinq cents hommes par Thorskell. Askeladd, averti par un messager (qu'il finit par tuer pour éviter qu'il ébruite la nouvelle), le prévient et il envoie ses hommes en s'attendant à recevoir une grande récompense pour avoir sauvé le fils du Roi.
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November 18, 2019
In this book , you might be fascinating continuance of the story because there is big stories turning point. After Askeladd assault the small village, Askeladd thought his group killed all of the people but unfortunately one girl was still survived. She reported Thorkell where Askeladd group latent so Thorkell's group also ran after them. Member whose in Askeladd group start to doubt Askeladd decision. One more big event is fighting Thorkell and Thorfinn. Thorfinn revenge Thorkell that fighting ending is a very good. No one know this ending. The author is very good story maker. He used many background and situation. He also good that explain many character's emotion. This is such a good action story. This book is little bit grotesque, it is good point, very realistically when somebody died. I want to read No'4 too. Because story is finished really nice scene.
I prefer to read this book people who like to read nice action and story line Japanese manga. I like to read Japanese action manga, animation. I never seen these nice story manga. To sum up, I want to know each character's future because author did make nice story line and very clearly writing battle scene.
I prefer to read this book people who like to read nice action and story line Japanese manga. I like to read Japanese action manga, animation. I never seen these nice story manga. To sum up, I want to know each character's future because author did make nice story line and very clearly writing battle scene.
July 11, 2021
Este tomo ha sido más revelador que los dos primeros. Aquí es donde empiezas a ver de verdad lo bueno que va a ser esto, y he tenido que comprar inmediatamente el siguiente.
Ya no es el cuidado con el que cada diálogo está colocado en la escena exacta, es que puede verse a la perfección el estudio de cada panel y cómo no es casualidad que se vea esto cuando este personaje menciona esto. He tenido más de un escalofrío y me encanta cuando pasa eso. Es que son vikingos y yo entré aquí pensando que no iba a sorprenderme en absoluto. Pero qué bueno es. Este manga me enseña que ya todo está inventado pero al mismo tiempo cada obra es única y está esperando a que él llegue y la explore.
Es decir, los vikingos están totalmente trillados, pero Vinland Saga es fresco y tiene unas especiales ganas de contarte una historia.
Con los vikingos pasa como con los enanos tolkienianos, que puede parecer que todos van a tener la misma personalidad e incluso el mismo aspecto físico. En esta obra no ocurre eso, no podía estar más lejos de la realidad.
Compadres, que leáis los vikingos. Están muy chulos.
Ya no es el cuidado con el que cada diálogo está colocado en la escena exacta, es que puede verse a la perfección el estudio de cada panel y cómo no es casualidad que se vea esto cuando este personaje menciona esto. He tenido más de un escalofrío y me encanta cuando pasa eso. Es que son vikingos y yo entré aquí pensando que no iba a sorprenderme en absoluto. Pero qué bueno es. Este manga me enseña que ya todo está inventado pero al mismo tiempo cada obra es única y está esperando a que él llegue y la explore.
Es decir, los vikingos están totalmente trillados, pero Vinland Saga es fresco y tiene unas especiales ganas de contarte una historia.
Con los vikingos pasa como con los enanos tolkienianos, que puede parecer que todos van a tener la misma personalidad e incluso el mismo aspecto físico. En esta obra no ocurre eso, no podía estar más lejos de la realidad.
Compadres, que leáis los vikingos. Están muy chulos.
October 25, 2024
En el tercer volumen la historia regresa al presente, con Thorffin siguiendo a Askelad pero ya sabiendo cual es su motivo.
Aparece un personaje bastante particular, sanguinario y con una actitud algo "cómica", Thorkell el grande.
Es básicamente el vikingo que tenemos en el imaginario, a quien solo lo mueve la sed de sangre y probar su honor en batalla.
Sus acciones direccionan la trama hacia caminos que Askelad no tiene en mente, pero que sin saberlo más adelante tendrán un gran impacto en los personajes principales (Thorffin y Askelad en mi opinión).
Hay un contraste que se me hizo notorio; un par de escenas muy conmovedoras al inicio y al final, y muchas otras de batalla donde las ilustraciones no se guardan nada. Con esto se me aguaron los ojos iniciando y terminando el tomo pero se me revolvió el estómago en el desarrollo (👏🏻).
Aparece un personaje bastante particular, sanguinario y con una actitud algo "cómica", Thorkell el grande.
Es básicamente el vikingo que tenemos en el imaginario, a quien solo lo mueve la sed de sangre y probar su honor en batalla.
Sus acciones direccionan la trama hacia caminos que Askelad no tiene en mente, pero que sin saberlo más adelante tendrán un gran impacto en los personajes principales (Thorffin y Askelad en mi opinión).
Hay un contraste que se me hizo notorio; un par de escenas muy conmovedoras al inicio y al final, y muchas otras de batalla donde las ilustraciones no se guardan nada. Con esto se me aguaron los ojos iniciando y terminando el tomo pero se me revolvió el estómago en el desarrollo (👏🏻).
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