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What Time is It There?

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What Time is it There? is a history of worlds that encounter each other without ever meeting. The title comes from a film by Tsai Ming-liang which explores the desire to conquer the barriers of space and time by abolishing time differences and inventing substitutes for a coveted elsewhere. This preoccupation with other worlds and consciousness of the differences that separate them have become a persistent theme of our world today, shaped as it has been by the complex flows of people, images and ideas that we have come to associate with the term 'globalization'. But the dismantling of closed worlds that gradually opened cultures and peoples to one another is by no means new. In this remarkable book, Serge Gruzinski takes us back to the early modern period and examines two testimonies that require us to navigate between America and the Islamic world long before the images of 9/11 had entered our heads. One is a chronicle of the New World compiled in Istanbul in 1580, the other is a Repertory of the Times written in Mexico in 1606, which dwells at length on the Empire of the Turks. Why and how did the Turks come to know so much about America, and what made readers in Mexico ask questions about the Ottomans? Gruzinski conducts a dialogue between these two texts that emphasizes the singularities of the two visions, that of Islam and that of America, each already keeping a watchful eye on the other and yet irreducibly different, with this question always in the what did it mean to 'think the world' at the dawn of modern times?

200 pages, Hardcover

First published January 1, 2008

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Serge Gruzinski

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born in Tourcoing in 1949, studied at the Ecole des Chartres from 1969 to 1973 and received his diploma there as an archivist and paleographer. During the following eleven years, within the framework of various research projects, Gruzinski traveled to a number of Mediterranean countries as well as North and South America. The precolonial history of Mexico was to become one of his major focuses. In 1985 he published his first book, Les Hommes-dieux du Mexique, now also available in Italian, Spanish, and English translations. In 1991 and 1993 the two volumes of his treatise La Découverte du Nouveau Monde appeared and in 1991 the book L’Amérique de la découverte peinte par les Indiens du Mexique described the aesthetic encounter between pre-Columbian art and the European Renaissance. Serge Gruzinski is a research director at the Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique and the assistant director of the Center of Research on Mexico, Central America and the Andes

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October 13, 2021
Otro libro más de este prolífico historiador, muy bueno y corto. Otro más que se inscribe en la temática de una historia global y conectada.

El hilo conductor de todo el libro es el interés que tenía el imperio Otomano por el Nuevo Mundo; mismo interés que había en la Nueva España por el mundo musulmán, para ello el autor se centrará en el alemán Henrico Martínez y un Árabe Anónimo, ambos, aunque alejados por miles de kilómetros, tienen cosas en común.

Por un lado, hay todo un conocimiento de los clásico, como Ptolomeo en sus obras, pese a sus errores y las restricciones de cada una de sus religiones, este conocimiento antiguo sirvió para mirar un Nueva época cargada de nuevos cambios.

Transformaciones que vienen con la conquista de España a América. Hecho que no pasa desapercibido por el mundo islámico que mira con recelo tal acto, la rivalidad entre ambas religiones es histórica, pero el legado del mundo árabe en la península ibérica, y por consiguiente, en las indias occidentales, es irrefutable.

Algunos aspectos culturales hacen presencia en la nuevas Tierras, incluso, la conquista pareciese una extensión de lo que fue la reconquista ibérica en contra de los moros, muchas cosas en América tendrán comparación con cosas orientales.

Ambos bandos se odian, quieren acabar uno con el otro. Tal hecho no ocurre en su totalidad, lo máximo que se llega a producir es la pérdida del dominio Otomano en el mar Mediterráneo tras la batalla de Lepanto. Pero siempre en España estará la idea de una nueva cruzada que por fin tome tierra santa.

La astrología es algo que fascina a los dos protagonistas del libro, está unida con al ciencia y la historia, es muy usada para predecir el futuro y el porvenir que llega.

En fin, cuando se lee este libro, llega a la mente de uno más ideas para abarcar siguiendo a Gruzinski, porqué el texto es muy bueno.
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January 23, 2024
did not read well at all, some questions asked are interesting, but few resolved.
sin of indifference section and antwerp chapter were most compelling (but could be much more comprehensive!).
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