Bang is a pickup textbook intended for men who weren't born with the natural ability to sleep with a lot of women. It contains simple but powerful techniques, moves, and lines that offer a direct line to casual sex. Bang includes... Bang goes into explicit detail on how to escalate to intimacy... There is also an appendix that covers unique situations you may face... Dozens of additional topics are logically organized into five chapters... The lessons taught in this no-nonsense, no-fluff textbook aim to help men reach their sex potential based on their existing look and status. (This is the second edition of Bang, released in summer 2010.)
Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, Roosh Valizadeh, and Roosh Vorek, is an American pick-up artist of Iranian and Armenian descent, known for his writings on seduction and antifeminism. He writes on his personal blog and also owns the Return of Kings website where he publishes articles by others on related subjects. Additionally, Roosh has self-published multiple books, most of which offer advice to men on how to talk to, pick up, and ultimately sleep with women in general, as well as in specific countries.
Roosh V is a disgusting misogynistic piece of shit douchebag. Id rather have my nails ripped off than voluntarily read this book or give him financial support in any way. The dude hates women and thinks we are all cunts, sluts and gold diggers. He is despicable. Furthermore, PUA stuff DOESN'T WORK. its a great big steaming pile of shit that teaches men to treat women like animals to be fucked and discarded. DO NOT BUY THIS BOOK. DO NOT READ THIS BOOK. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ASSHOLE.
I have read amazing works relating to seduction such as "The Game" by Neil Strauss which changed my dating life. "Bang" would not fall into that category.
Definitely one of the most poorly written books I have read. Short and full of pessimistic ideals. Didn't buy it but a friend had a copy of it and he decided to give it to me (the friend wasn't that high on the book either). After reading this book I asked what could cause an author to write such an egregious piece of work. So I decided to do something and look more into the background of the author who is apparently associated with hate groups and is a misogynist who bashes women. Sure women dislike nice guys and want the bad boys but making posts such as "42 things wrong with American women" just show the lack of class the author has and what goes on in the mind of a person who writes such a work.
I am an American male who has enjoyed dating women of all sorts of nationalities and races, this book along with other works from Roosh should serve as examples of what men should not be like. The piece has a high rating on amazon and a lot of those high ratings come from Roosh's forum members like Samseau who will passionately support him no matter what he does.
Roosh has a extremely shady past and far too many cons about his reputation and personality for me to even consider buying any of his books. I won't say more than what has been said, just google "Roosh V" and within the first 3 pages you will have an idea of what kind of an author you are dealing with. Not the kind of person I would want to hang out with in real life and definitely not the guy you would want as your wingman.
People can't honestly think this shit works, can they? I was mortified! This book treats woman like an object to be owned, to be won. Women are people, want to get a girl? Be nice to her an know you /do not/ deserve her. She owns you nothing.
The writing style is very conversational - i would prefer to see it in bullet point form. Overall, the book is interesting, i recommend it , cuz it gives some alternatives to 'common wisdom' from mystery method - like avoiding group/social circle games.
One of the best insights was this: "you better find if she is ready for casual sex faster - it is win-win situation for both - you know if she is solid bang and don't waste time, she does not waste time too!
I did not think of it this way - i was thinking i must 'conquer & please', but Roosh ultimately tells that GAME is numbers game.
Obviously, just reading and having this knowledge in mind is useless - seduction is a skill
“Don’t listen to anyone who tries to tell you who you should or should not bang.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
First and foremost, I am not here to speak on this author’s politics, antics, and/or crimes, I know nothing of the man other than Bang and Day Bang which I have read. Secondly if it hadn’t been for women and the huge blowup sometime back I would have never bothered to look up this title, I went through a dating/self-help phase years ago but hadn’t read anything like this until as I say the controversy of yesteryear.
“The alpha male doesn’t make apologies for being a man who has sexual needs. He doesn’t hide his intentions with women, so they know how to provide him with what he wants. If a woman isn’t comfortable with sex, he moves on and finds one who is. He isn’t going to wait for a woman to serve his needs. He’s not concerned if a woman rejects him in the bedroom—if he doesn’t get it from her, he’ll get it from someone else. As a sexual being, he expects women to be sexual as well. The alpha male lives in his own reality.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
My first thoughts on Bang are that it’s a bit grimier and grittier than other titles I’ve read, which were either written by women or written in the context of what women SHOULD want. From my own personal experience seems to me women like guys like Roosh V but they want the flowery words to go with it. This book is way more primal in nature, I find the truth can be a terrifying aspect and the fact that this author makes no apologies for what he’s going to say is refreshing; we’re never closer to life than when we’re facing death and this book… yeah you’re playing with fire.
“My success depends entirely on me and what I make of my environment, not on god, c* blockers, society, or culture.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
At the core of this title there is confidence, it might come out as bragging, or “the game” but it all comes back to embracing a man’s primal nature with a few tricks along the way; and attempt at a cheat sheet for understanding women. I can’t say I have much experience at that but don’t take me for one that would sit at the feet of some would be master, instead I’m reminded of being in high school listening to some jock talk about all the girls he’s getting. That being said I didn’t turn my back on the guy, I listened and I do believe there is some knowledge to be gleaned from the madness.
“We don’t tell her we want to bang her, but we don’t hide it either. Our intent is strong in our heads, vague in our words, and assertive through our actions, a balance that is only mastered with experience.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
People can say what they like about Roosh V but Trump says a million times worse daily and some women want to make him president; Roosh V acknowledging that men want to have sex come on. I’ve heard the words “pessimistic view” but this is no different than women reading tons of magazines on how to get a man and then feeling bad afterwards.
“As you’re walking, driving, or subwaying to the date, remind yourself that your goal is to have sex with the girl. It’s not to impress her with your amazing qualities, wow her with conversation, induce hysterical laughter, or to make out with her—it’s to bang her.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
Now if you ask me why I think the author wrote this as I said I know nothing of the guy and if he has sold and influenced as many men as feminists claim then he might say "I just need to pay the mortgage." Thank You For Smoking – because women target him, target his followers, did I mention I read this strictly from the view of an artist. Speaking of art there are books that actually deal with subjects like the evils of sex, drugs, rape and trust me no book has caused more death and destruction than any book that is considered “holy”.
“I have no sympathy for a man who can’t put himself through uncomfortable situations to get what he truly wants.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
What I took from this title is nothing I haven’t heard before… confidence, you got to have confidence, my lack of game because I rarely lie to women, and a true discovery that was more Amazon recommendation than Bang. I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum when it comes to women, I tried being the nice guy, the beautiful flowery words and I nearly got “fired” for being a creep on the other side I’ve been bold and aggressive as this author suggests and let me say that seems to work a better. I can’t fault someone who’s methods work in the field and that alone makes up for the price these books can run.
“She’s not going to invite you upstairs like in the movies. She’s not going to tell you she wants to have sex with you. She’s not going to grab your (member) and put it in. You must always be making the first move and always be pushing. If you’re scared she’ll think of you as a creep, that means you’re on the right path.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
Books like Fifty Shades of Grey which has sold millions upon millions of copies has been called an akin to rape, I eagerly seek out darker and darker erotica and I don’t see the hatred and madness for those titles as Roosh V is receiving. Some will argue those are works of fiction, what about the Bible; not calling that a work of fiction but couldn’t Bang be taken with a grain of salt, nobody is saying you have to practice what he preaches. You want me to say something bad about this book, much like this review it might come off as a rant, a man that is tired, changed his mind set, started doing what he wanted and now is bragging to anybody who will listen.
“A guy who wishes to avoid rejection often has the most pride.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
There are much better works, better written, and more easily understood but with the same message, have confidence, go for yours, you’ve been trying one way to get women here is alternative strategy. Roosh V is not the Marquis de Sade, he’s just a man who found infamy and as I say again I don’t know what he does outside of his work but in the confines of this book I see nothing truly wrong.
“If You Don’t Feel Like A Creep, You’re Not Pushing Hard Enough” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
When I first bought this book I don’t know what I was expecting, some step by step manual, I have yet to read one of those, some journal, or rapist manifesto, instead it’s just another dating helper, not an original premise but dirtier without the niceties of other books. Maybe this biggest concern is how this book makes women feel and we all know in this day and age that is a big no, no we are always supposed to be concerned with feelings and emotions.
“Never tell a girl that she is beautiful or hot, because that increases her value relative to yours—unless you happen to be more handsome than she is beautiful. Not complimenting will help because you’re withholding a reward that all women want, one they’ll stick around to hear.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
Would I read this book again… hell yeah; just seeing the stuff that I have apparently forgotten a refresher course, things like;
“Don’t have a standing date where you go to the same club every Saturday. Don’t see her more than twice a week. Don’t talk on the phone every day. Don’t let conversations fall into a “So what did you do today?” pattern where you talk like old school chums instead of lovers. Choose silence instead of banal conversation.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
How is that bad advice, I do that now with two women unfortunately, how’s your day, texting nearly most days just because.
“The first question an interested girl will ask is, “What’s your name?” Give a straight answer and ask for her name in return. I never ask a girl for her name first, because then I’d lose an opportunity to gain information about how she feels about me. (If she talks to you for one hour and doesn’t ask you for your name, that means she’s just using you to entertain herself.)” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
Most days I go about feeling like the gay best friend because that’s just what happens, I’m the shoulder to cry on, the devil’s advocate, the clown; as you can tell the author’s words do strike a chord with me.
“Ok five reasons men are scum and women let us get away with it. One, we only want one thing. No exceptions. Two, we fall in love with you before we can have that thing and then fall back out once we've had it, whereas women conversely fall in love afterwards. Three, we will lie, cheat, steal, or murder in order to get that thing... Why am I sugarcoating this? You're a big girl. In order to do you. Four, we freely admit the number is one through three, and women don't care. And the number five reason why men are scum and women let us get away with it, you can't live without us.” Dead Like Me Season 2 / Episode 10: - Death Defying
In closing for someone like me and seeing how this books price and controversy have not stopped sells, must be plenty of losers and people jonesing for fight. This book might not make you a better man but it will make you feel like one for a while and if you’re woman who considers herself right 24/7 and 365 well… good luck. A work not for the timid and should be taken as a man simply talking but what can the voice of one man do, what has it done?
“When you get rejected by a girl, there’s only one thought that should be in your head: “It’s her loss.” Even if you said the lamest stuff in the world or accidentally spilled your drink on her, it’s still her loss. If you tripped in front of her and she laughed at you, it’s her loss.” ― Roosh V, Bang: The Pickup Bible That Helps You Get More Lays
If you have stuck with me this far and you’re really looking for something, try “The Manual: What Women Want and How to Give It to Them” by W. Anton, that book changed my life and I owe it all to looking up Bang and Amazon’s recommendations. Bang is a decent title though but don’t believe the hype in either direction, see it for yourself.
"Изкуството" да сваляш жени напоследък е доста популярно. У нас, както и в САЩ повечето "майстори" и "учители" са някакви смешковци, чието, доколкото успявам да видя, единствено предимство пред останалите мъже е, че всъщност отиват и заговарят жените, и нищо друго.
С което, разбира се, избиват рибата 90% по-добре от всички други, които само стоят, гледат сърдито и се напиват. Съответно, съветите и методите, които дават са супер смешни и нелепи, но сработват веднъж на сто години (което пак е безкрайно по-добре от никога, пак казвам).
Bang е книга за това как се свалят жени for dummies. Фокусира се върху излизането по барове и дискотеки и свалянето на жени там вечер.
Roosh е като че ли единственият, който дава простички, съвсем конкретни съвети, базирани на статистическите резултати от хиляди срещи с жени (нормално, човекът е молекулярен биолог по образование и професия, прилага научен подход).
The title of this book makes it seem essentially immoral, deifying the degenerate life goal of bedding women. I would say that such an impression is correct, but in the same way in which Austrian economics deifies subjective wants and economic goods over any philosophical, religious, or moral beliefs, as well as unified cultural milieu. It is an implicit deification of "bangs", because that is all that Roosh is concerned with here, just as Austrian economics does not concern itself with the philosophy of life or of religion and therefore can make it seem like those things do not matter if you read too much of it.
But, on the positive side, what Roosh writes here is the best practical exposition on Manosphere principles, even if he doesn't generalize certain behaviors into a comprehensive strategy (see "The Rational Male" for such generalization). You certainly don't have to use the tricks Roosh describes for the end goal of maximizing immediate sensual pleasure — as I hope many men realize. You can use them to keep attraction during a LTR or marriage. And such tools are, I believe, essential to sustain any sustainable LTR because of the immense legal, economic, and social threats to males in our society (see "Sexual Utopia in Power").
I'm sort of conflicted about this book. On the one hand, Roosh writes in a simple and informative style about all steps which a modern man needs to do in order to attract women. He answers many potential questions of "what do I do in XYZ scenario?". But on the other hand, the end goal of all the informative he gives is a goal which is completely pointless in and of itself: having pleasurable sensations. In the end, I think that it is the best practical "how to" book for attracting women, although you must have enough wisdom to understand that Roosh's end goal for himself and you in this book is not worthy of pursuit. The practices in this book can be well used, however, for getting a girlfriend or sustaining a marriage/LTR. The latter are precarious in our divorce-philic society, so knowing how to sustain attraction is very crucial if you want to maximize your chances of success.
I read it as a reference (my GF is doing a research on Pick Up Artist community). In short: while there are a few useful hints, this book is written from an alpha-male jerk perspective, openly advising to ignore women's needs, to manipulate (e.g. promising a relationship, having sex, then ghosting) and coercive behaviour.
If you want to get better at dating, go read Mark Manson's "Models: Attracting women through honesty".
If you are not ACTIVELY practicing Game, do not even bother to read this book
This is not a type of book where you will find deep psychological principles about why something is working. This is more "How to book", which contains a lot of routines / lines and other technical stuff. If you are interested in intergender psychology, have a look at first Rollo Tomassi's Rational Male book or The Red Pill Handbook, it will be a good starting point.
When I first picked up this book, it appeared to me very primitive and shallow. The tone of the book appeared to me sleazy. It was a time when I wasn't actively doing a lot of real life Game, and mostly was concerned about psychology about it. I was thinking that "I got it" and there is nothing I can learn here. Because of that, the content of the book was irrelevant.
After a while, I started to gain A LOT OF field experience. Basically practicing every day, doing cold approaches on the street, in clubs, going to different type of dates: 2x2 / 1x2 (2 girls), having multiple dates per day, spinning plates, one night stands, threesomes, group sex, etc.
After all of that I picked this book again, and the way how its content was perceived this time has completely changed. It was like day and night. Basically, based on my own experience, I agree with most of the things that Roosh describes / suggests here. He definitely has some good points and tips for those, who actually practicing the Game. If you are not practicing it, you won't even notice them. Don't even bother to read it, if you are not playing the Game / exploring your options, because otherwise it will be a waste of time for you, as it was for me when I first started to read this book.
This is the book for those, who are taking action, who are not sitting at home playing video games and watching porn. Be mindful about what Roosh is saying, because despite most of the advices are good and solid, some of them are still quite lame and horrible
Main takeaways: - The willingness to walk away, above all others, does more to tell a woman of your higher value than any amount of money can - You don't ask the same boring questions that all other guys ask, because you understand that to be an interesting person you need to say interesting things, and to say interesting things you need to experience them firsthand - Never tell a girl that she is beautiful or hot, because what that does is increase her value relative to yours, unless you happen to be more handsome than she is beautiful. Not complimenting will help you because you are withholding a reward that all women want, one that they will stick around waiting for. As an extension to not complimenting a girl, do not discuss your feelings of emotion or attraction for her. Never tell a girl you like her or feel something for her - A girl who likes you will ask questions about yourself. This is the number one way to know if a girl is interested in you or not - Don't have a standing date where she knows every Saturday you will take her to the club. Don't see her more than twice a week. Don't talk on the phone every day. Prevent conversation from degrading into a pattern where you talk like old school chums instead of lovers. Choose silence instead of banal conversation. Don't fall into a boring "So what did you do today?" pattern - If at any time she pulls back from you, pull back from her even more. This is true regardless of how long you have been dating. If she's giving you a hard time, give her a harder time. If she's acting cold in the bedroom, act even colder. If she is giving the silent treatment, give her a more silent treatment
Favorite quotes: "Experience gives you confidence, because experience makes you capable" "I have been rejected more than most guys I know, but I have also been with more women than most guys I know. You try more, you get more - there is no secret to it" "A man who doesn't get rejected is one that is not reaching his true potential" "Your enemy is boredom, not conflict"
Alas, not as effective as I hoped it would be. LOL. I'm sure I could use the information in this book to get what I need from some poor girl, but I'm not sure if I'd want to. Bang is the lay guide for weird Internets dudes who need to be told that a good way to start a conversation with a girl is to say hi to her. And then they need to be told every single thing between that and, erm, insertion. The date this book suggests you take girls on sounds like a horrible time. The idea isn't so much to have a good time and get to know each other, it's to subtly disorient and gradually escalate intimacy until your clear to attack. If your goal is just to get it in, this book is only useful to the extent that the date described in this book costs less than just finding something on Backpage.
This is certainly one of the better books on the subject out there. Some tried and true recommendations mixed with some truly innovative and fun tips made for an overall pleasant, positive and inspiring reading. What kept me from giving it a full five star rating were some of the overly long examples of real-life dialogues and some of the late game strategies, which I didn't quite agree with, but other than that, I can heartily recommend this book to anyone interested in the subject.
Plus Roosh (the author of the book) is one helluva great guy in real life:)
Some good points, ideal if you perceive sex as a mere transaction. If you want to be good with connecting with women don't read this book. The title is exactly what it teaches, bang.
Conversational but succinct writing. Solid info. Getting a little outdated in the area of technology like email/text/calling, but still lays out good guidelines to go by.
All of this dude's books are disgusting beyond belief. Don't engage with any of his stuff if you want a healthy relationship to yourself and other human beings. 1 star.
A good discussion of his books and pick up artists' strategies in general (CW tho): https://youtu.be/NuUg5zx2FlM [video: ]
A textbook of Perfect logistics game and resistance breakers. Gold for New players. The book assumes that you already have the inner aspects of the game worked out and guides you to the outer workings of the game. I found the Phone game chapter interesting and how the tone of the book sets your priorities right. i.e Sex.
This book is mostly written in American and European perspectives. The author shares his experiences and draws tools and techniques to get the job done. It's still helpful for men in Asian countries at some extent. However, the principles of relationship between men and women remain same.
In my mind, Roosh is unmistakably morally unredeemable.
He uses every psychological tactic there is, including gaslighting, sadism, kokology and full-face lies to strip away women's agency and resistance to come inside them.
Some of his most memorable alarming actions and advice:
He's had sex with a girl 10 years younger than him (and he was 28 when he wrote the book)
He openly condones breaking up marriages, and sees it as a fun challenge. His own words
His wording in the one instance he mentions rape is at least a little concerning, calling it "a serious crime in most countries"
He recommends a weeks-long, elaborate lie about an ex coming back into your life as an excuse to stop talking to a girl but leave the door open to casual sex
He uses a seemingly benign but incredibly manipulative mind game probing the subconscious that honestly would be less out of place in a psychological thriller
However, I can't help but respect him immensely.
He's clearly put his entire being into the pursuit of maximizing the number of times he gets laid. He treats the game like an executive does the stock market, maximizing returns at all costs, a metaphor he himself uses. And I can't help but respect that absolute dedication to a craft.
I think there's very valuable lessons to be taken from those at the fringes of society driven to obsession.
I came into this book looking for a systematic guide and practical steps for meeting, talking to and hooking up with women, as well as emotional encouragement and validation. It did both of these things well.
But it went above and beyond with something completely unexpected:
It was a gold mine of vivid, unsettling questions that really made me ponder who I am as a person, the sorts of connections I want to foster with people, and the lengths people will go to to exert absolute control over others to suit their selfish pleasures.
I was not expecting a philosophically engaging head scratcher!! But it delivered!😁
The first half reads very normally, and everything about the first encounter is solid, good advice. At times he's a bit narcissistic or uncultured, but for the most part, he's right on the money. And there's actually some really good anecdotes and encouragement here that other pickup books don't speak with such clarity over
But then... You reach the middle game.
And this dude's character takes a nose dive.
The second half of the book is psychological warfare, plain and simple.
Even if you read nothing else, read the Strawberry Game. You'll get an idea what I'm talking about.
Five stars!!! A must read, through and through
Just to get this out of my head, I'm now reading Models, which is this in many ways, but from the complete opposite side of the moral spectrum.
And also The Game, which is kind of the inquiry into the debilitating personal effects of living the way this book describes, while also being an absolute killer story.
I'm trying to come up with some words to sum up "Bang" and what keeps coming back is "cute". It's not meant to be interpreted in a negative way, quite the opposite. I think, even if some of the techniques and suggestions might sound a bit dated at this point, it's well worth a read, especially if you're new in "the game" of picking up girls... let's say between 15 and 30 (I expect that by the time you're around 30yrs old you already came up with your collection of experiences of what works and doesn't). I still find it refreshing to read something that sounds raw and honest like what came out from Roosh V realizations: changing your behavior in an educated way will get you more laid.
I think the pitfall here might be of trying to copy verbatim what he's recommending and applying it "as is". In my opinion this will not work. What works though is following his advise, which is: move your ass! You gotta get dirty, you gotta learn how to accept rejection being rejected more and more, you gotta learn how not to freak out when you are dealing with flaky and irrational behaviors, and so on. As raw as it might be, it's a powerful reminder of the truth behind Pick Up Artistry: if you want, you can, it's just a matter of practicing seriously and keeping the focus as high as possible.
On the other hand, if you like me are more interested in the psychological and anthropological side of the Game, I strongly recommend The Rational Male books by Rollo Tomassi[1], most probably the world most popular and effective writer on the topics of Red Pill Awareness, The Game, Hypergamy, and all that orbits around the Manosphere.
Interesting... Roosh definitely dives right into the technical stuff. Too much tech for me personally. Funnily enough he seems to be "on-point" with most of his technical explanations but for most people I don't think it's necessary and can easily lead to overwhelm for the novice. Getting girls home isn't that difficult once you "got it". Definitely many questionable comments made in the long-term relationship section. Definitely not principles I would follow but they apparently work for Roosh. Stuff like "discretely look at her Facebook" and "monitor her sexual activity by installing a video camera in your room" - Something along those lines. No thank you. Too far and seems to stem from an odd moral compass. Roosh definitely made me think so that's a plus.
I heard a lot about roosh V. From rollo tomassi the author of the rational male. Apparently roosh, is one of the oldest PUA in field, around the same time as Neil Strauss. The person who the book the Game. I have to say reading this book. Was very interesting the fact that some things haven’t changed since the early 2000s. I would give it a 3.5 but it does have some old school gems in it.
Wie erwartet viel heiße Luft. Das Ende und große Teile des Anfangs richten sich an sehr verzweifelte oder unerfahrene kleine Jungs. Einzig die strawberry Routine war so unterhaltsam dass das Buch zwei Sterne erhält.
While a few of Roosh’s recommendations in the book were a little cringey and corny (IMO), the bulk of the book serves as a very decent manual on how to approach, date and treat women.