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yeah i agree that relationships don't have to fit regular societal standards. it just depends on each couple. now i do believe that females IN GENERAL are more equipped for nurturing children, and males IN GENERAL are more equipped being the protector and bread winner of the family. (as for breadwinner im not saying like males will always be better at making money, im just saying that they have more of an innate desire to provide for and protect their family)but like everything else really just depends
at the end of the day, the Bible says in clear text that homosexuality is wrong, a man sleeping with a man is wrong, and a woman exchanging the natural for the unnatural and sleeping with each other is wrong. ive found no solid evidence to suggest that all of these verses are mistranslated, or are just in the wrong context. outside of translation, God clearly made eve and adam for each other, both emotionally and physically. there are certain traits associated with a male, and certain traits associated with a female, and they go together. what one lacks the other excels in. there are also plenty of verses that talk about how a man will leave his family for his wife. no mention of a woman leaving her family for her wife. or a man leaving his family for his husband. if God's design was not heterosexuality, it seems to me like He would have been inclusive in His wording.
Robert wrote: "Scholars of the Bible agree that it had many different authors over time, and some parts contradict other parts, . Also, sections of the bible condone slavery, which I think few would agree with to..."slavery talked about in the Bible is very different from what youre thinking of
the earth,הָאָ֔רֶץ (hā·’ā·reṣ)
Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 776: 1) land, earth 1a) earth 1a1) whole earth (as opposed to a part) 1a2) earth (as opposed to heaven) 1a3) earth (inhabitants) 1b) land 1b1) country, territory 1b2) district, region 1b3) tribal territory 1b4) piece of ground 1b5) land of Canaan, Israel 1b6) inhabitants of land 1b7) Sheol, land without return, (under) world 1b8) city (-state) 1c) ground, surface of the earth 1c1) ground 1c2) soil 1d) (in phrases) 1d1) people of the land 1d2) space or distance of country (in measurements of distance) 1d3) level or plain country 1d4) land of the living 1d5) end(s) of the earth 1e) (almost wholly late in usage) 1e1) lands, countries 1e1a) often in contrast to Canaan
straight from the concordance on Bible Hub. lots of these arent talking about the entire earth, they are talking about a section of the earth.
Genesis 6:17 says...
..."to destroy every creature under the heavens that has the breath of life"...
see how the intent of the flood was to destroy those with the breath of life, otherwise known as humans, because they had become wicked and were mixing with demons
humans had no reason to expand before hand, we can see later from Babel that humans love sticking together and not being spread out. this isnt direct evidence that they were all in the middle east, but its the best i can provide right now
✨Ruthie wrote: "I believe (and I believe the Bible supports this) that there WAS a GLOBAL flood, for all men are sinful, not only the nephelam. In Genesis 7:4 it says, "Seven days from now I will send rain on th..."
the word used there in the origional Hebrew is used all the time in the Bible, and many of the times it is used to mean the known world. at this time they really only knew about the areas that they inhabited. so i think it makes more sense that the flood wouldnt cover the entire earth.
and im guessing God told Noah to build an ark so that the animals could be saved as well??
i get what you mean but that was worded a bit conflictingly lol. like the Word is entirely true as it was written, but because of bias, old translations, and not understanding culture, more current translations and understandings might be wrong??
Syd wrote: "Clovermine wrote: "I mean. What is it accurate on? Is a text that recounts historical events accurately. I would say no. The thing with the Bible, regardless of faith is that it is a document that ..."yes i agree!! i will often use a concordance for my own personal use and for these debates! it shows you the original Hebrew and all the meanings of that Hebrew word so you can see for yourself how it was translated.
i disagree with syd here on the whole predator thing and im going to try to explain the post-flood food shortage again...so syd says that predators didnt exist then right? that all animals ate plants?? i disagree (which is okay). but i just dont see why a logical God would make animals perfectly able for killing and hunting, only to force them to not eat what they are built to hunt for years, and then all of the sudden allow them to eat meat. to me it makes sense that they did eat other animals before this, but that there were no predators in the garden, which is why when God put adam and eve in the garden, He said that the plants were for them and all the animals. notice this was once they were in the garden. so i think all the animals in the garden were either herbivores or omnivores.
as for the whole post-flood food situation...
"But see, the earth was already split into continents and a flood of that size would’ve flooded Asia. Animals on other continents couldn’t have travelled over oceans for the predators to let the predators eat them. You’re telling me they could fit 6000 mammals (not including species) on the ark, that doesn’t even include reptiles, birds, or bugs. There are 3000 mammals on Asia alone."
yea it was already split. a flood of what size? i already said that it did not cover the whole earth, only the inhabited earth (to get rid of the nephalem), which would have just been around the middle east. no animals had to swim across oceans to get to another continent for food. there would have been food a couple hundred miles out. no im not saying they are fitting 6000 mammals. they would only have needed to take the animals that would be in danger. so only animals native to the middle east.
Clovermine wrote: "I mean. What is it accurate on? Is a text that recounts historical events accurately. I would say no. The thing with the Bible, regardless of faith is that it is a document that has been moved arou..."what is it wrong about historically?
Syd wrote: "Jupiter (previously charis) (God’s Version ✝️) wrote: "yeah i personally will say that the earth has been here for 4.5 billion years ago, just like proven science will say. ive said this before but..."yeah me too
@Tessie (flat earth)Job 38:14
i think you meant to put verse 13 since it talks about the edges of the earth? if so this is similar to the corners of the earth, figurative.
Isiah 40:22
talking about how the earth is a circle? a sphere is just a 3d circle. i dont see a huge problem here, especially when u look at a concordance and it says that the word used here was the same word for circuit and compass, and that ancient Hebrew didnt have a word for sphere at that time.
1Chronicles 16:30 (this one isn’t exactly about it)
yeah this one... isnt about a flat earth so.
yeah i personally will say that the earth has been here for 4.5 billion years ago, just like proven science will say. ive said this before but im an old-earther, so i have no problem with however old science says the earth is
Tessie wrote: "I keep making these random posts but I feel like I’m mean in debates and I don’t wanna be mean towards yall 😭😭"i literally dont get offended unless u insult me so 😂 i might get frustrated cuz i feel like ur repeating or not listening but im never actually mad cuz im sure it sounds like im doing the exact same thing so dont worry bro
Tessie wrote: "I have a question for whomever wants to answer, but mainly directed at @JupiterIf there were in fact genealogical gaps in the Bible, how long ago would that mean Adam and Eve existed, strictly acc..."
strictly according to the Bible its hard to tell since the Bible doesn't tell us. but based on science im going to say that humans have been here for about 300,000 years, which is a little bit later than the oldest human skeletons we've found. other Christians will say other things though.
but because of the gaps theres im pretty sure theres no way to tell if u only look at the Bible
Oct 06, 2025 05:22PM
dude i had no idea about this drama until earlier today T-Ti literally only know about him cuz he did a bunch of stuff with hannah bang, and then today i figured out he was a horrible person. (she unfollowed him tho so)
Tessie wrote: "Jupiter (previously charis) (God’s Version ✝️) wrote: "Tessie wrote: "Jupiter (previously charis) (God’s Version ✝️) wrote: "genetics trees show that genetic diversity in humans as we have it today..."its a Bible study website yes, but in this article its not even about proving that 6000 years was not the number, it was talking about different genealogies entirely. but i can try to find another website.
i havent read this one cuz its blocked on my school chromebook but from the title and from asking an ai to summarize it it sounds like it will be helpful
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/...
