Ann’s Comments (group member since Sep 28, 2015)

Ann’s comments from the Poldark Saga - Winston Graham group.

If anyone wants this book, all you have to do is cover postage from South Wales, UK to wherever you are.

I have in my possession a 1978 Hardback version of The Angry Tide.

Now, if I were to continue collecting the books I would like to complete the set I have. The Angry Tide was first published in 1977, so you can make your mind up regarding how early a publication it is.

It has the original paper cover and has also been protected by plastic. The book is in very good condition considering it's age. The spine isn't cracked and no pages are loose. Although there is some discolouration to the pages.

If you would like this copy of the book, please let me know how much the postage is from where you are to South Wales in the UK and a bid for the book.

I am offering it on here first, if it goes unsold, I will be listing it on eBay at the end of the month.

I hope you are all well, if people wish for photos, I can post some on the Poldark Saga Facebook Page.

I realise that when everyone reads a book they are coming from a different history and background.
"One book can give a prism of information to each different person who reads it. One person will only see the red, some the violet, others the blue, others will see it all. It's all different."

This is a comment I made on my short review of Warleggan, the book I have shelved for my own personal reasons.

I appreciate that for many, Ross is a hero. Your opinions are as valid as mine.

We are coming from a different history/past. We are looking at the prism (book) and pulling different colours from it.

Whereas my love for Demelza and the other characters will stay, I cannot quite get over Ross's behaviour.

Just because I see red and other see violet from the books they are enjoying, doesn't mean we can't still enjoy each other's company.

I wish you all the very best and thank Tanya for her continued dedication to this group and it's members.

As the title suggests. I have done my best.

I WILL NOT tolerate being attacked and berated for having my own opinions. Even AFTER I established that attitudes to women were very much different back in Poldark times, I have still been attacked.

As I mentioned in my post on Warleggan, I will not be attacked. I will not be sneered at by those who have a differing opinion when I have been polite and courteous and have not once attacked them.

Tanya, I am leaving the group for you to run as you please for a while. I am stepping away.

I am in two doubts as to whether to keep the group open and I am contemplating closing the Facebook Page. I never did this for the thanks, but I am certainly not doing it for the nastiness.

Okay, I appreciate everyone has their own views and everyone is entitled to those views. I will not be berated for my views, regardless of how upsetting and shattering they are to your personal views of the books.

I haven't once mocked anyone here for their views. I have slated a character and how he responded to the situation.

My opinion of the situation, however, does not change. (I am still on book 4 and attitudes of certain people here are driving me from the books I was so dearly clinging to for a little bit of grit and love whilst in my own dark times.)

But them "letting blood" without clean utensils and a clean environment and such will have introduced bacteria and infection to the blood letting wound.

I didn't think the fever came from a viral infection either. Although, he may have had that to begin with, weakening his immune system, I believe that the squalid conditions in the prison allowed the wound on his arm to get infected.
The fact that the arm had "festered and gone poor" suggests to me gangrene.

Okay, seeing as the festive season is upon us, which Christmas traditions (some of which we see in the Poldark Saga) would you like to do, bring back, or just enjoy the thought of?


I've always wanted to make a Christmas Pudding from scratch, make paper garlands (tried it with Kiddo one year and we ended up with glue in our hair) and a homemade wreath.
Visiting family wasn't something we did Christmas Day, but this year sees us going to my Step-sons for Christmas Dinner (The start of a new tradition apparently).

So, I thought I would ask you all. What do you like about old Christmas traditions? Which ones would you like to see come back? And which ones are you glad are still in the past? x

So, as most of you know, I have the first 6 books in the Saga. Unfortunately, with my first pay from the new job (YAY) being a 6 week pay, that's paying for Christmas (Depending on how much it is!) and my Provisional license.
I can't justify spending over £40 on the next 6 books. Not yet anyway. So, it would seem, I am doomed to wait until the new year to read the books after The Four Swans.

I hope you are all having a good day/evening where you are and that you are looking after yourselves. x
Ann xx

If you still want to stay lost in the world of Poldark, you could peruse the hundreds of fan fiction stories out there.
As I mentioned in another post, obviously they are someone else's interpretation of the words and they may have taken it to an alternate universe by not sticking to the books and deviating after a certain one, but there are hundreds out there.

Poldark fanfics This is the first one I pulled up from a google search.

There are plenty of fanfictions about the Poldark Saga. How true to the books they have stayed, I don't know. I don't know if they took a different track after a certain book.
But I would definitely be giving them a read. x

Granted you are reading someone else's idea of how the story should continue but it's nice to have someone else's insight to how they interpreted the books.

Some of the fanfics are really very good.

Welcome Martha! Hope you are finding the place a wealth of knowledge, there are plenty of people to talk to about various books and storylines. I hope you enjoy being a part of the group x

I am sorry you considered leaving Victoria, I thought a book club was a place where everyone's opinions could be heard without judgement, yet we are adult enough to understand everyone has differing opinions especially on what is an emotive subject for many people.

I don't understand what I have said that could be construed as a vile and vicious rant about Ross though. I was merely stating the facts as I perceived them.

It's evident that everyone has taken in the words that were written very differently. WG clearly had a knack of letting the reader fill in their own gaps.

As for civility, I don't believe I have personally attacked anyone for their opinions. I apologise if anything I have said made you feel threatened or violated. That was not my intention.

I am glad the books have bought you joy and happiness during a dark time and I am sure that was their intended notion.

Tanya, that's exactly what I am doing. xx

Fighting her on the marriage is different to 'claiming' her. Which is what Ross did. In his rape of her, he claimed ownership of her.
I think how Elizabeth dealt with it after is how WG believed a woman should deal with it, okay possibly not during his own time, but most definitely back then. x

From Ross Poldark. Book 1, Chapter 9 (Page 147)

"All right, all right,' interrupted Jud inn sudden irritation. I knows what I says, don't I! Think I can't tell what I said meself---' In his annoyance he turned his head and showed that one eye was going black.
'He says, "There never was an Illugan man what wasn't the dirty cross-eye son of an unmarried bitch wi' no chest and spavin shanks out of a knacker's yard." I thought twas as good as a preacher. And then someone hits him a clunk in the eye.'

When I read this, I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself, and I can't truly understand why. Possibly because the insult was so unexpected and something that wouldn't even be thought of today. I don't know know, but this is my favourite Jud moment.

That's if he knows what WG was thinking. Maybe the man wanted the world to know that even the ideal hero of a story can be a complete arse-nugget too. That even the deeds of 'bad men' can be carried out by those we least suspect.

I believe so.
The emphasis he places on the Warleggan's having fingers in so many pies, being able to crumble a business as soon as debts were called in is a massive warning to those reading the books.

Manage your money wisely, be mindful of who you borrow off and make sure you are aware of all possibilities ahead.

Ross (in the earlier books certainly, I can't say anything about the later ones as I haven't read them yet.) is very mindful of the Warleggans and their interests in other's businesses. He however doesn't think of his own money worries until they are very much upon him.

If you haven't got the money, make sure the person/business you loan it off, will not drop you in the slurry for their own benefit.

After all her amazing work keeping this group going whilst I have been away from the laptop, I have promoted Tanya to a Moderator.

Please welcome Tanya and her awesome to the team x

Okay, so this is the thread where we can put all our ideas for polls in the future. There is one currently running that will remain open for a long time. It's asking what your favourite book out of the series is.

We need more poll idea's though.... So, now's your chance. Got an idea? Post it. Let us know. xx
Ann x