Arsen discussion

This question is a spoiler (view spoiler)[ Was any one else left wishing there was more to the ending? We never find out who Nadia's father is! That is really bothering me since I have finished! (hide spoiler)]

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I think the author left it open to have a second book. I can see this turning into a series. I would say the father is Arsen and he's going to start trouble in the next book.

Spoiler in this answer also--I agree. Arsen was still all hung up on Cathy and if that kid is his, he will see her as a way back to Cathy. I hated that Ben took her back. Great book!

I think he would insist on DNA testing to find out if the daughter was his, but he would never get Cathy back. She would never do anything to hurt her daughter and splitting up with Ben again would do that. Remember her daughter has just gained a daddy that she wanted. If Arsen pushed her too hard, Cathy would end up hating him - remember she had decided that Ben was the one she truly loved.

I would like to see a second book were Arsen finds his own Cathy to fall in love with, but I expect we will get one were he fights for his daughter.

I found this book one of the most emotional I've read in a long time.

Yes it was a book I hated and yet loved it. I just wanted to scream at Ben through my Kindle to leave her. I think Arsen will fight for the kid and you are right not get Cathy back, but make big time waves for her and Ben.

This book was an emotional roller coaster!
I wanted to know more about Ben and Cathy’s relationship after he forgave her.
And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but I really wanted Arsen to have is own HEA.

I think this book was meant to be a standalone.

I want Arsen to have his HEA also. I wrote to Mia Asher and asked her for it....she told me maybe. I think he deserves a HEA. Ben is a pansy. He lied to Arsen when he went to his house. Yes, Ben may think he kicked her out but she was leaving him anyway. She hated being in the same room as him and she was telling him everything she was feeling because she didn't care and wanted Ben to hate her.

I have to disagree, I felt the story ended perfectly. Yes Arsen is left W/O his HEA but he says "He has them both. And I never will. And it will remain that way even if I have to make sure I die in the process."
But my theory on the original question is we will never know who the father is... but the blonde curls lead me to believe she is Ben's (because of Bens curls); but the look shared at the end with Arsen makes believe she is his. The Author did leave that open for us to take it and run with it as we have. But honestly I loved it and the ending was perfect.

Alexis - Three Girls and a Book Obsession wrote: "I think this book was meant to be a standalone."

I agree!

I hated the selfishness of cathy throughout the book. Arsen shouldn't have taken advantage of her vulnerability, however, i understood he fell in love with her. It should be a stand alone, but I could see there being another one with Arsen and DNA etc.

I think the reader is left to wonder who the biological father is...but in the end Ben was the father Cathy chose.

This whole book had me tied in knots. I think the kid is Arsen's and I think ultimately his purpose was to provide Cathy a child. Honestly my issue was that she is pregnant again at the end and as it is her and Ben's kid she may likely have another loss again, then I wondered where that would leave all of them. So many crazy thoughts and emotions. I also hoped Arsen could get a HEA.

Cathy made the choice her heart led her to......

Ultimately, it was Arsen left looking broken........

Could Arsen have his own love story? Only time (and the writer's imagination) will tell........

I thought this was a good book but was not a fan of the ending. She didnt deserve a second chance with Ben. I wished that Ben moved on from her and got a better HEA.

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I don't like the ending either. Hated it. I really hope there's a second book. I want Cathy to end up with Arsen. Not a fan of Ben. He's passive aggressive. And I hate the lie he told Arsen to break them up! I hope this story continues. Maybe Cathy will have a change of heart once she realizes what a liar Ben is.

I also think Nadia is Arsen's because of his initial reaction of her. Ben didn't have that instinct.

UPDATE:

ok..so technically Ben wasn't lying. I just realized that Cathy had confronted Ben out of guilt of her affair, but never actually told Ben she wanted to leave him. Either way I'm still pissed that Ben went to Arsen, and that Arsen didn't talk to Cathy afterwards. And that Cathy is too screwed up to know what she wants.

And I hate the ending still!

Angela ♥ Mrs. Hollywood ♥ wrote: "I don't like the ending either. Hated it. I really hope there's a second book. I want Cathy to end up with Arsen. Not a fan of Ben. He's passive aggressive. And I hate the lie he told Arsen to brea..."

Yes, She was going to leave but Ben actually told her to leave FIRST. So what he said to Arsen was the truth. Did I like the ending of the book....NO! Cathy didn't leave anything from her actions, she still was only thinking about herself. Her daughter deservers to know who her father is. Cathy just want to sweep it under the rug and live a lie.

Ben was hurting also, he tried with her. She just was NOT open to hear anything he had to say. Ben told he the same thing everyone else said. When we saw him in the end he was angry/hurt Ben.

Kelle wrote:
Yes, She was going to leave but Ben actually told her to leave FIRST. So what he said to Arsen was the truth. Did I like the ending of the book....NO! Cathy didn't leave anything from her actions, she still was only thinking about herself. Her daughter deservers to know who her father is. Cathy just want to sweep it under the rug and live a lie.
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I see what you're saying. Ben told Arsen that he told Cathy to leave first. Technically that was the truth, but he also mislead Arsen into believing that Cathy only left because he told her to. But she was going to leave him anyway.

Arsen's initial reaction, jumping to conclusions and being angry was typical. But I think it was out of character for him to have stayed away for all those years saying nothing. I believe at some point his character would have gone back to Cathy to have it out with her. He was way too determined to be with her. I don't see him abandoning her throughout her pregnancy after all he'd done for her in the past after the miscarriage. He seemed like a different person at the end of the book.

I wish things happened differently, like Arsen telling Cathy how he really felt about her at some point. Maybe if Arsen had admitted to loving her and wanting the baby, Cathy would have stayed with him. Arsen leaving her made her think twice about Ben. I just hated the ending.

But I could see from the beginning that the story was set up for Cathy and Ben to be together in the end. I just really hoped she would be with Arsen.

Angela ♥ Mrs. Hollywood ♥ wrote: "Kelle wrote:
Yes, She was going to leave but Ben actually told her to leave FIRST. So what he said to Arsen was the truth. Did I like the ending of the book....NO! Cathy didn't leave anything from..."

I don't think they got to the point in the conversation where she was leaving. So, in reality he did put her out. He was just confronting the man he broke up his marriage, he didn't owe him anything. He also didn't know how that was going to affect things. Bottom line is, all of this was Cathtys mess and her fault. I have NO compassion one sympathy for Cathy, she didnt learn anything. The one I just feel bad that Aresn will to get to know his daughter.

Kelle wrote: I don't think they got to the point in the conversation where she was leaving. So, in reality he did put her out. He was just confronting the man he broke up his marriage, he didn't owe him anything. He also didn't know how that was going to affect things. Bottom line is, all of this was Cathtys mess and her fault. I have NO compassion one sympathy for Cathy, she didnt learn anything. The one I just feel bad that Aresn will to get to know his daughter.

It makes sense now!!! I didn't see it that way at first. They didn't get to the point in conversation where Cathy told Ben she wanted to leave. I just assumed she was leaving at first because that was her original plan. But when Cathy saw Ben she'd only confessed to the affair out of guilt. And never said she was leaving! She was so screwed up she probably didn't know what she was wanted at that point, and might have stayed if Ben didn't tell her to leave. It's all so annoying! I can't stand her even more now!!!

The ending is so unsettling. I also feel bad that Arsen will never get to know his daughter. It's awful.

This book was meant to be a standalone. Just like Cathy was meant to be with Ben in the end. Cathy decides to confront Ben and tell him the truth about her affair with Arsen only when Arsen tells her to leave Ben at the ball. On hearing about the pregnancy how Arsen develops cold feet is still unexplained.Wasn't he really in love with Cathy? I am sure just did not want to have "fun" with her
I feel that Arsen really loved Cathy and when Ben comes to him he really feels sorry for Ben and for breaking up his marriage.
And also Nadia I feel is Arsen's daughter. Arsen did deserve a HEA

This book was meant to be a standalone. Just like Cathy was meant to be with Ben in the end. Cathy decides to confront Ben and tell him the truth about her affair with Arsen only when Arsen tells her to leave Ben at the ball. On hearing about the pregnancy how Arsen develops cold feet is still unexplained.Wasn't he really in love with Cathy? I am sure just did not want to have "fun" with her
I feel that Arsen really loved Cathy and when Ben comes to him he really feels sorry for Ben and for breaking up his marriage.
And also Nadia I feel is Arsen's daughter. Arsen did deserve a HEA

Jennifer wrote: "I have to disagree, I felt the story ended perfectly. Yes Arsen is left W/O his HEA but he says "He has them both. And I never will. And it will remain that way even if I have to make sure I die in..."

I agree. I think it would be best left alone. I don't want to read about Arsen coming back in and starting up shit again. It ended perfectly to me.

Naziya wrote: "This book was meant to be a standalone. Just like Cathy was meant to be with Ben in the end. Cathy decides to confront Ben and tell him the truth about her affair with Arsen only when Arsen tells h..."

He does explain why he did it in the epilogue though. That's why he went back but saw her at the coffee shop with Ben thinking she was asking him to take her back when she wasn't.

I think there should be another book. Arsen deserves a happy ending, I don't think he would try and take his child from her mother, because remember he loves Cathy he would never hurt her again, but if she is his daughter he deserves to know her. I think in book 2,they will begin to heal and forgive. If Cathy deserves forgiveness, so does Arsen.

I think there should be a book 2 but I think it could be done in a way that Cathy, Ben and the little girl isn't involved.

i loved the ending, i fricken hated arsen. ben WON her back ...or actually she went back to him. it was so fucked up how it all happened but thats what made the book amazing. i do not believe that there is a second book which is why i think epis like these are so pointless.

I have to agree with Frannie. I don't think dragging history back up for a second book is necessary. I like how things ended and I wouldn't be interested in reading his story or about him fighting for his daughter. I would hate for Ben to have to endure Arsen getting involved in their lives again.

As frustrating as the ending of this book was, i kinda think it was perfect. i know some will totally disagree with me. but I felt that it was a real ending. I totally would not want to see a second book but I would not mind another book in the POV of Arsen.

I read this book 5 months ago and I'm reading it all over again and crying all over again. I can feel, love, hate, vibrate, hope, be happy, be sad... I can feel everything again and heightened. I love this book! A favourite of mine for sure.

(sorry about my english, not my tongue language)

Jennifer wrote: "I have to disagree, I felt the story ended perfectly. Yes Arsen is left W/O his HEA but he says "He has them both. And I never will. And it will remain that way even if I have to make sure I die in..."

I totally agree with you! Mia made us think the girl was his, but let it in the air. Perfect, perfect, perfect end to a perfect story.

Jennifer wrote: "Alexis - Three Girls and a Book Obsession wrote: "I think this book was meant to be a standalone."

I agree!"

Me too..and was perfect

Of course it was the perfect ending. We are all still thinking and talking about it. It doesn't matter who we wanted to end up happy or who the father is it was done to keep us thinking about it. And you have to admit, it worked!!!!

I hope there is another book. I want a book 2. I almost dnf this book then suddenly, around halfway, I became enamored with it and started liking it a lot. I hated Cathy, but the story was fantastic after things went to shit :D Arsen was a prick but in the end I felt bad for him since he gave up a lot. Ben is my favorite. Cathy didn't deserve him.

I hate to say it because i really liked the book that i wish there is no second book... Guys the ending was so powerfull so twisting that i am still under impression even after months of finishing the book...i think a sequel is going to ruin what i felt and i quite like the mystery that was left becuase that made me wonder even more and think about this book so much that i will always remember it...

I like the way the book ends but the epilogue is so frustrating. It makes me think that there is more to tell. I really hate CATHY... I don't think she deserves anybody, even her daughter. I think when there's a sequel to this, when she comes face to face with Arsen, she'll jump into bed directly with him. She said she'll always love Arsen, there's no closure with her feelings for Arsen. And the little girl, if she's Arsen's, he'll use her as ticket to Cathy. And knowing her, she'll crushed and broke BEN again for ARSEN! I hate CATHY. I just hope when it happens, karma will really be a bitch to them (ARSEN and Cathy). ARSEN, DESERVE to be broken in the end of this book.

I don't think she's going to write a second book. I think it would be unusually cruel to put Ben through anymore pain than what he already went through. Besides, I don't think Arsen deserves a HEA. I liked the idea of karma getting him back for his thoughtless actions.

London wrote: "I don't think she's going to write a second book. I think it would be unusually cruel to put Ben through anymore pain than what he already went through. Besides, I don't think Arsen deserves a HEA...."


yeah, you're right. He doesn't deserves a HEA. There shouldn't have that kind of epilogue because it's unnecessary. But given CAthy's last thoughts about her feelings for Arsen,it just left readers frustrated and wonder what will happen when cathy and arsen comes face to face again.

London wrote: "I don't think she's going to write a second book. I think it would be unusually cruel to put Ben through anymore pain than what he already went through. Besides, I don't think Arsen deserves a HEA...."
You're absolutely right...

The epilogue made Arsen seem like a martyr (with the whole "walking away a second time" thing). When he totally deserved what he got.

What I liked was, that the author put time between Cath and Ben divorce, and Cath and Ben reunion. Time heals all wounds. Or so they say.

This book is perfect as a standalone.

Helen wrote: "London wrote: "I don't think she's going to write a second book. I think it would be unusually cruel to put Ben through anymore pain than what he already went through. Besides, I don't think Arsen ..."

I agree.

Helen wrote: "London wrote: "I don't think she's going to write a second book. I think it would be unusually cruel to put Ben through anymore pain than what he already went through. Besides, I don't think Arsen ..."


I definitely agree with you. It seems like Mia Asher made Arsen the hero, when in fact he isn't. I feel like she's team Arsen. I can't help thinking that if there's a possibility of another book, she'll end up making Cathy and Arsen together at the end (because of the paternity thing and no closure of Cathy's real feelings for Arsen). I really hope it wont happen.

I don't know whether I should love or hate this book. The ending left me crazy with wondering:
1. Who is Nadia's father?
2. Who was Cathy really meant to be with? I really think that if Arsen had been honest andtold her he loved her Cathy would have been happy with him. She would always hurt for Ben but she could have moved on, and what Arsen did I think was completely out of character sure he was upset about what Ben told him but I don't think he would have just stopped fighting for Cathy and not once in the years that passed by communicate with her. I think Arsen made Cathy second guess him and believe Ben was the right choice all along. I am very happy she got her happy ending with Ben I love his character so much, but the ending made a mess out of my head and made me wonder if Arsen could have been her happy ending too.

My biggest issue with ending is that there wasn't any indication of regret on Cathys behalf. She did some pretty sick shit. And rather than reconcile with her husband, she chose the boy who ruined her marriage only to have him toss her out a month later. Four years later, after having a child that might be his, she still doesn't reconcile. Only by pure chance does she later confront the person she hurt more than anyone, the one she claimed to love more than anyone. She says how sorry she was about her cheating but not once does she mention it being a mistake or regret doing it. That really pisses me off. If you really love someone you better regret doing the most harm to them.
Then she up and says she's grateful to that asshole? For what? That reinforces the idea that she not only doesn't regret her actions but seems to have cherish them.

The ending left me unsatisfied and I can't stop thinking about it. I have a theory that it's Ben's genes that led to those miscarriages and therefore Cathy was only able to give birth to the daughter that is Arsen's. If my theory proves to be right then her new pregnancy with Ben at the end will be another obstacle in their relationship. Even though Cathy has made all those terrible mistakes I still wish to see her happily married again with Ben. I would love to have read them forgiving each other with more strength than ever in their relationship.

I hate this ending.

1)It's not believable that Ben and Cathy could go through an entire divorce without his learning of the pregnancy. At some point she would have been showing. At that point, her lawyer would have been pushing for child support. Jerry Springer show guests have more protection than Ben, the lawyer.

2) Suspending disbelief that the normal legal processes failed, it's not believable that Ben didn't learn about Nadia for 3+ years. There would be friend/acquaintances in common who would talk. Cathy knew Ben was engaged to Kerry, but he didn't know his ex-wife had a child dating back to their marriage?

2) It's not believable that Ben went to Arsen and successfully got him to break up with Cathy, only to leave Cathy without either of them. It's not believable that both 1) Arsen really loved her and 2)Arsen went along with Ben's plan. It's just so much more believable that 1) Arsen was ultimately selfish and didn't want a kid or 2) Cathy was not longer as interesting as a f*** buddy with Ben out of the picture. I thought the Arsen epilogue in particular ruined the entire book.

Angela ♥ Mrs. Hollywood ♥ wrote: "SPOILERS!!!



I don't like the ending either. Hated it. I really hope there's a second book. I want Cathy to end up with Arsen. Not a fan of Ben. He's passive aggressive. And I hate the lie he tol..."
You don’t like that Ben didn’t technically tell the whole truth?
How about Cathy lying and cheating throughout half the book? How about Cathy never telling Ben, who is the possible father of her child, she was even pregnant?
How about Aresn who went after a Married women, who he degraded, insulted, and abandoned?
None of that bothered you?

Just the only Innocent person in the book telling what he thought is the truth is what you didn’t like?