American Psycho discussion

Al is the complete opposite of everything Batemen holds dear. I think he kills him out of pure disgust.

The dressing in cheap things, I think, really just boils down to further evidence of Bateman's decline. He, perhaps, is unwittingly disgusted with himself.

Well he is just pure society, he does everything society does. To him buying and selling and succeeding is being powerful and good. Being weak is bad, being neither a consumer nor a seller.. well that is just disgusting to him those people are throw away human beings.

There is nothing true of Patrick that isn´t true of consumer society, except maybe society tortures and exploits both genders equally but in different ways? Certainly on the surface it seems women suffer far more. But men are suffering too, things like that aren´t quantifiable.

Patrick's rage and disgust against the homeless reminds me of what Oscar Wilde says about none of us being able to stand other people having the same faults as ourselves.

Patrick inherited this lifestyle circumstantially-he comes from money and he's employed at his father's company- but he is trying to make himself believe that he has somehow earned it.

He refuses to believe that he is not deserving of his style of life the same way he refuses to believe that the homeless are not deserving of theirs.

Their circumstances expose him to himself, forcing him to face the possibility that maybe he is not deserving, maybe he is not in control.

I believe that Bateman potentially wants a perfect world, and when he comes across this man, he becomes an imperfection in Bateman's world, and because of this, he has to kill him off.

Like all of us I think Bateman has an ambivalence to most things. I agree that on some level he is jealous of Al, because he refuses to fit in like Patrick is so desperate to do. On the other hand he is disgusted by his filth and therefore kills him. It's a prelude before he goes completely psychotic.

It seems to me that there's two ways to tackle the question: if we look at Patrick Bateman as a person, it is impossible to really know. In my opinion any interpretation will ultimately reveal more about the person answering than of Patrick himself. And if we examine him as a character, well, I’ve noticed that his violent outbursts seem to be mostly triggered by the disgust he experiences when socializing on previous chapters (or just out of morbid curiosity near the end of the novel).

Story and characterwise, it just makes sense doesn’t it?

Bateman's rage lies in the fact that despite the horror he inflicts nothing changes. I don't think he directs his rage at anyone in particular it's more all encompassing than that - it's society as a whole,

Because it contradicts his way of life to the extreme. Loving or tolerating the homeless would mean the risk of letting him slip, even the mere possibility of one day saying "fck this, I'm giving up working so hard, buying things is exhausting, I can't keep up with society's demands" simply terrifies him, simply because it means failure of everything he worked hard for and hoped all his life, because he didn't build anything longlasting and of quality and therefore unstable. This is what I think.

The homeless in America attack persons with machetes. I myself was attacked by a black man with gashes on his arms in Santa Cruz he had a machete. The homeless are always walking around with pipes and clubs and knives and machetes and hacking people to death.

As an Investment Banker (on Wall Street (starting Water & Gold + Bond & Maiden (around there)) + Duetsche I know the homeless are very dangerous persons and should be avoided in all instances. Like individual Hitlers since they possess nothing and have nothing to go home to they commit crimes out of a passion for committing crimes like terrorizing the good citizens with machetes oh plus they smoke a lot of meth and other drugs heroin and are pimps and thieves.

Ultimately this is the problem they are too wealthy most people need permits to possess weapons on the streets and threaten them the homeless dont feel these sorts of considerations.

Im actual fact as an I banker I prefer the companionship of the homeless to such persons as police for example as the police are notorious dirty thieves and liars and brutes too plus they kick dogs and poison them

so the homeless in America fundamentally stab or kill the cops seemingly with machetes which is a valiant thing to do I fully support investment in such tactics

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Because the novel is social satire, Patrick Bateman is an exaggeration of the capitalistic and patriarchal ideal. He is a man who is obsessed with fitting into society's standards. His rage is magnified because it is satire. He is not an agent for change. Even his speech about fostering the future for the youth, etc. is him stating things he knows he's supposed to say, not things he genuinely believes. He says it himself. He is empty inside. He feels nothing but an obsession to perfectly fit into the idea of a perfect man in his society. Everything he does is meant to be a critique of what upholding capitalism and patriarchy means for society. Killing the homeless man is ridiculous because, on the surface, it seems he feels anger toward him because he just won't get a job just like him and earn a living. The truth, though, is that Patrick has not earned anything either. He and his friends all inherit their money and degrees. Because he is wealthy and does what everyone does, he thinks he is morally superior, but he clearly isn't. Ellis is satirizing that whole society, showing us how ridiculous it is but also that it is upheld through violent means (violence in the full sense of the word). The fact that no one around him truly hears him talk about murder, ever, tells us that this society turns a blind eye to the violence required to be in their position. All they care about is the appearance of having power, of appearing to be the best. And I'm sure there's a lot more to unpack. This is just me grazing the surface. But I think it goes a lot deeper than a hatred of a particular group because he kills him.

Homeless people typically don't contribute meaningfully to the economy, and a lot of pro-capitalists consider homeless people to be leeches on society. Patrick is one of those people.

After reading the book a second time, I was able to see that Patrick Bateman is a 'mimic'. We start the book off with Price complaining about the homeless...boom, Patrick now hates homeless people because his buddy does. Same with the Asian kid he killed, and the same with the women he killed. If a side character mentions prejudice against any kind of minority, Bateman kills them within the chapter. He is in other words, the human form of the yuppie society.