Stephen King Fans discussion

So upon finishing the dark tower, I get the sense that this could have very well been Rolands 2nd journey to the tower, or his 200th! Ka is a wheel, death, but not for you gunslinger, never for you.

So I was just curious what everyone thought Roland would have to do to break this endless loop? Does he have to realise his ka-tet is more important then the tower and leave with Susannah before reaching the tower?
Also how will the horn alter things? Is the journey the same every time, slightly different or wildly different?

I know there’s no real answer but just wondered what other dt junkies thought!

BigJohnny wrote: "So upon finishing the dark tower, I get the sense that this could have very well been Rolands 2nd journey to the tower, or his 200th"

I believe it was his (view spoiler)[nineteenth (hide spoiler)].

Of course. But what if he did things differently the next time around. He doesn't remember what happened, but still... what if he had saved Susan Delgado? Would it have mattered?

Here's my theory, copied from my review: (view spoiler)[I don't want to spoil anything, but for those who have read it (and had their hearts broken) but, does our continuing to read past the warning cause a reset? Is it our, the readers, fault? If I stopped listening after the epilogue (coincidentally, when my CD broke!) would there have been success? (hide spoiler)]

Kandice wrote: "Here's my theory, copied from my review: [spoilers removed]"

Kandice, do you think you could provide a link to your review? I'd like to read it, and I'm too lazy to chase it down :)

Jerry wrote: "Kandice wrote: "Here's my theory, copied from my review: [spoilers removed]"

Kandice, do you think you could provide a link to your review? I'd like to read it, and I'm too lazy to chase it down :)"

Be warned, I don't write well. I only take the time to do it so that when I reread, which I often do, I have something to remind me of my feelings last time. I tend to add a bit each time I read, which comes across as rambling. Anyway, https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Hey, Kandice... beautifully written. I like your opinion, and of course, in your version at least, which is as true as any other, you ARE right.

Nick wrote: "Hey, Kandice... beautifully written. I like your opinion, and of course, in your version at least, which is as true as any other, you ARE right."

*beaming*

Kandice wrote: "Nick wrote: "Hey, Kandice... beautifully written. I like your opinion, and of course, in your version at least, which is as true as any other, you ARE right."

*beaming*"

Thanks, Kandice. I agree with Nick that your review is really nicely written ("rambly" does not preclude "nicely written" ... a lesson we can learn from Stevie himself). I don't necessarily agree with Nick, though, that any version is as "true" as any other version. I resist "anything-goes" kinds of positions because to me they don't leave enough room for aesthetics. And I think your way of looking at the DT saga has considerable aesthetic appeal, missing from a number of other "takes" on the story I've heard and read about.

Kandace, you have put into words the very thing that I have had bouncing around in my head since I started the journey to The Tower. I would even go as far and point to SK's novella in If It Bleeds, and argue that the many worlds of the multiverse exist inside of all of us. King is Tower itself, his ideas/stories are the beams, and we the readers are a members of the ka-tet. As long as there are people reading these tales The Tower will not fall.

Jerry: In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities ANY and ALL outcomes will happen. That makes them all true, though aesthetics are nice, a nasty mess is just as probable.

Charles, wow nicely said about authors and people reading their tales. Thanks.

Thanks, guys!

I like feeling like I am part of King's multiverse. I love his including us as Constant Readers, and his forewords, prologues and epilogues, written in a conversational voice cement that for me.

Charles wrote: "Kandace, you have put into words the very thing that I have had bouncing around in my head since I started the journey to The Tower. I would even go as far and point to SK's novella in If It Bleeds..."

That is beautiful. I have never read something that explained our relationship, not only to King but all of literature, so well. I am going to steal that concept going forward.

Thank you Steve, and please do "steal" it. For me literature and music hit a deep part of my soul that no other medium has ever reached, with the exception of a few painters/paintings. And I believe the reason is because at our core mankind has used stories, whether written or told, to grow intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, and even technologically. I have even started to write a memoir of sorts about my and to a greater degree, my family's gradual ascent out of poverty. I don't know if I will ever try to publish it, but I wanted to keep the record for future generations.

Thank you as well Nick!

Nick wrote: "Jerry: In an infinite universe with infinite possibilities ANY and ALL outcomes will happen. That makes them all true, though aesthetics are nice, a nasty mess is just as probable."

Nick: actually not, if we are playing "strictly speaking". "Infinite possibilities" does not equal "nothing left out". The rational numbers are infinite, but there's a far greater number of irrational numbers that are left out of that infinite set of rationals.

Anyway, the world that we live in and that Stephen King writes in DOES have aesthetic considerations prominently featured, so I'm not going to dismiss those considerations by saying they're merely "nice". They're why we read, why writers write, and why we love some books and not others.

I am ever wonderstruck at the fact that a book I find sublime is total shite to someone else and the reverse is true as well. IDIC is real!