The Debate Club discussion

Ok so I'm homeschooled, and i don't know about Public schools but the program I'm doing talks about religions. Like Christianity, judaism, Buddhism, Islam, things like that. I personally don't care but what are your opinions?

I personally think that schools should educate students about all religions or at least an overview as long as they aren't forcing beliefs or violating the 1st amendment.

yeah

Ella✨(booktrovert) wrote: "I personally think that schools should educate students about all religions or at least an overview as long as they aren't forcing beliefs or violating the 1st amendment."

Agreed!

100%.
But it needs to be balanced, unbiased, and needs to be unforced.

exactlyyy. we learn about religions in history, so when we're studying a region we also study the main religion there during that time period. in the case that it's a world religion, we go deeper into how it was founded, what are its core beliefs, etc. But it's all secular and informational, which I like.

Sai :) wrote: "exactlyyy. we learn about religions in history, so when we're studying a region we also study the main religion there during that time period. in the case that it's a world religion, we go deeper i..."

Yes thats the same thing with my schooling

man
i dont think theres much to debate about then HAHA
everyone seems to agree

indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion.

Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭

Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lol fr

What's happening 😭

Barnette wrote: "What's happening 😭"

hehehehehehehe
you shouldnt have told me about this 😌

😭 *regrets life choices*

Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lmao the middle schoolers have corrupted me

Sai :) wrote: "Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lmao the middle schoolers have corrupted me"

lol i'm only half corrupted. The rest of the corruption came from my lovely friends

Ava wrote: "I think that they should. They should have multiple teachers for the main religions and the classes should be optional"

That's a cool idea! Maybe there could be an overview that's part of the curriculum and if people want to know more there could be electives?

Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

NOT THE MINDFUL AND DEMURE

Sai :) wrote: "Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lmao the middle schoolers have corrupted me"

thank the almighty cheese lords that I got out of middle school before the corruption took over

Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lmao the middle schoolers have corrupted me"

thank t..."

you think you're not corrupted?🤨/j

I should probably stop this convo but it's so entertaining-

Barnette wrote: "I should probably stop this convo but it's so entertaining-"

lol ikr?

Ella✨(booktrovert) wrote: "Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "Logar wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "indeed. it's a very peaceful, mindful, demure (lmao sorry 🤣) discussion."

you are not forgiven 😭"

lmao the middle schoolers have corrupte..."

no my mind is just fucked 😌

Barnette wrote: "I should probably stop this convo but it's so entertaining-"

DONT YOU DARE

honestly, whose mind is intact at this point?

Logar wrote: "Barnette wrote: "I should probably stop this convo but it's so entertaining-"

DONT YOU DARE"

Erm TwT maybe we can move this to the Main Chat guys?

okkkkkk

Barnette wrote: "Logar wrote: "Barnette wrote: "I should probably stop this convo but it's so entertaining-"

DONT YOU DARE"

Erm TwT maybe we can move this to the Main Chat guys?"

SLAYYYYYYYY

SO SMART

Other mods help!! ToT

SORRY!
LOGAN I DON'T KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH TO BE DOING THIS BUT GET YOUR BUTT ON THE MAIN CHAT

Ella✨(booktrovert) wrote: "SORRY!
LOGAN I DON'T KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH TO BE DOING THIS BUT GET YOUR BUTT ON THE MAIN CHAT"

Lmao

Okay move the chaos here: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

i will, o great skibidi sigma 🫡🫡

(lmao had to do that. i have a habit of annoying my friends. now let's get back on topic...)

Ava wrote: "I go to a Catholic school, so when my sister started going public I was shocked at how unaware and immoral kids at public school. I know people from my school are corrupted but they are more aware ..."

honestly public school is often very bland. lie if you have a teacher that just sticks to the curriculum, it's soooo boring and completely unhelpful. i can see why you were so shocked.

I think you should teach the religion of your culture at the school in principle. But i think in practice there are just too few qualified people to speak on religion.

Religion is kinda like politics. You cant really be “objective.” And we are kidding ourselves if we think so.

I went to a public school and they intertwined history and religion and lightly tapped all religion. It got silly when we were talking about islam. I grew up during the war on terror so you could always turn on your TV and terrorists were doing something whacky all around the world. Our history teacher claimed islam advanced women's rights the day after some terrorist melted a womans face off with acid after she converted away from islam.

So true, they used to get people to come over as speakers to say wElL nO iSlAm Is NoT a MiLiTaNt ReLiGiOn


Yes it is.
Even islamic scholars agree it is.

Yeah i just dint think people are honest enough to tackle the subject properly

I don't trust the government enough to properly teach about any religion ngl

:O two austins, but one is weird!

MidnightButterfly wrote: ":O two austins, but one is weird!"

lol

Nahh , I don’t think so . If it has to be , then they have to make it optional bc everyone has different beliefs 🤷‍♀️ If you want to study your religion , you should be the one making effort and doing it by yourself

We should handle Islam properly, I (fortunately) learned about how awfully other schools teach about the big poppa monotheistic religions, and they are... not great. Especially in smaller, more conservative school districts

I never see public schools teaching Satanism, but they teach Christianity and Hinduism and Evolutionism. What happened to diversity and inclusion?

Austin wrote: "I think you should teach the religion of your culture at the school in principle. But i think in practice there are just too few qualified people to speak on religion.

Religion is kinda like poli..."

Whether you like it or not historically islam did advance women's rights. Women weren't allowed to inherit anything before islam

Austin wrote: "I think you should teach the religion of your culture at the school in principle. But i think in practice there are just too few qualified people to speak on religion.

Religion is kinda like poli..."
What someone does, does not make it religion.

YourLocalPoliticsPotato wrote: "I never see public schools teaching Satanism, but they teach Christianity and Hinduism and Evolutionism. What happened to diversity and inclusion?"

first of all, evolutionism isn't a religion. and secondly, hinduism and christianity are world religions. hundreds of millions/billions of people follow those religions, meaning a significant percentage of the human population. if i was determining a school curriculum dealing with religions, i would choose faiths that many, many people follow. since we don't have the time to learn about every single faith in the world, it is best to focus on the main ones.

i literally wrote an essay abt this omg. anyways its a public school so no. thats what private schools are for, specific learning or quality!

— lizzie wrote: "i literally wrote an essay abt this omg. anyways its a public school so no. thats what private schools are for, specific learning or quality!"

Ooh, can you share some of the points from your essay, if you're comfortable?

Griffin ✨ wrote: "No"

How come?

Barnette wrote: "— lizzie wrote: "i literally wrote an essay abt this omg. anyways its a public school so no. thats what private schools are for, specific learning or quality!"

Ooh, can you share some of the point..."

Essentially, its much like advertising. If the guardian of a child chooses to expose their kids to a certain religion, they should be sent to private school. If a child is sent to public school, its for the minimum quality and learning. Private school is for specific quality and learning. Some parents aren't able to send their kids to private school, and the kids end up in public school. As an example, a non wealthy family is Muslim and cant send their children to any school of their own choice because of money. So their children are taught at public school. But this public school teaches Christianity, but the children can't choose not to learn this, because public school is their only source of education. So no, I don't think they should teach religion in public schools. However, it would be ok if schools taught the basics of several of the main religions, as long as they aren't teaching opinions on what is the superior religion, etc. basically the first amendment.