The Children of Man Official Group discussion

Thanks Elizabeth for the Christmas present! Caleb is definitely on the hero list, debating whether he's beaten Kade...
This has been a great insight into the relationship between Caleb and Talise. My only issue is I'd managed to get along with life for a while having finished Render, but now I'm hooked back into the world of "The Children of Man" again after reading this snippet!
Without giving anything away for those who haven't read "The Luthier" yet, I'd like to know more about the link between the Lightwinds and Joachim.
Happy new year, more than ever now looking forward to Forge!